05/12/1993 City Council. EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
SPECIAL JOINT MEETING WITH MOUNTLAKE TERRACE CITY COUNCIL
May 12, 1993
THESE MINUTES WERE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 25, 1993
The special meeting of the Edmonds City Council and the Mountlake Terrace City Council was called
to order at 7:00 p.m. by City of Edmonds Council President Dave Earling in the banquet room of
T.J. Bayshore Restaurant, 51 W. Dayton, Edmonds.
City of Edmonds Officials
Laura Hall, Mayor
Dave Earling, Council President
Steve Dwyer, Councilmember
Michael Hall, Councilmember
William Kasper, Councilmember
John Nordquist, Councilmember, ABSENT
Jeff Palmer, Councilmember
Tom Petruzzi, Councilmember
Recorder: Barb Mehlert, Recorder
Council President Earling welcomed all paritipants.
City of Mountlake Terrace Officials
Roger Berg, Mayor
Walter Fehst, City Manager
Joyce Barry, Councilmember
Pat Cordova, Councilmember
Dave Gossett, Councilmember
Kristi Hansen, Councilmember
Patrick McMahan, Councilmember
Al O'Brien, Councilmember
DISCUSSION ON TRANSPORTATION ISSUES TO I_N_CLU_D_E_, BUT NOT_L_I_M_I_T_E_D__TO RAPID TRANSIT ALIGNMENT AND
EDMONDS MULTI -MODAL SITE -
(ka Edmonds Councilmembers discussed the proposed multi -modal site at the UnoCal property with the
Mountlake Terrace Councilmembers. Council President Earling said congestion in the downtown area,
as well as safety hazards and the dividing "line" between the City and the waterfront necessi-
tates a total move of the ferry dock to the UnoCal site. Edmonds Councilmembers said they would
like the support of the City of Mountlake Terrace in this endeavor.
Mountlake Terrace officials gave their support to the Edmonds and favored the multi -modal site at
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UnoCal. Mountlake Terrace officials believed this would be beneficial to the City of Edmonds, and
in the long run, beneficial to the City of Mountlake Terrace.
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Council President Earling displayed an enlarged photograph showing an aerial view of the downtown
area, including the waterfront and the Pt. Edwards site.
Councilmember O'Brien of Mountlake Terrace said the proposed rail will provide the City of
Edmonds with both positive and negative. aspects; positive being it will bring more people through
the City of Edmonds, and negative because many of those people will simply be using the City to
get from one point to another, thereby making the City of Edmonds a transportation hub.
The Aurora Village site was discussed and it was noted that major development will be taking
place at the former mall, and not all of that land will be available for such uses as a large
park and ride lot, etc.
Mayor Roger Berg of Mountlake Terrace discussed the potential rapid transit alignment going up
I-5 as opposed to a Highway 99 alignment. Mayor Berg said he believes he has the support of most
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of the Mountlake Terrace City Council when he says the City prefers a Highway 99 alignment with
they benefit Edmonds Community College and other major centers. Mayor Berg
stations placed so
discussed the possibility of having the alignment come up Highway 99 to 200th, then take the
Interurban back to I-5.
Mountlake Terrace Councilmember Pat McMahan said he does not agree with Mayor Berg's preference,
and believes it should go down the I-5 corridor. Councilmember McMahan said he does, however,
support the multi -modal facility at UnoCal. Councilmember McMahan said he has not spoken to any.
business people who support a Highway 99 alignment, and said he has studied the issue thoroughly.
Councilmember Palmer of Edmonds said he does not think there will be any simple solution that
everyone will like, and believes the final results will be a mix of different ideas.
Mountlake Terrace City Councilmember Pat Cordova talked about the potential station slated for
220th and noted the density that is required around such a station and said most of this area is
already designated for industrial use.
Councilmember Dave Gossett of Mountlake Terrace said he does not want the City of Mountlake Ter-
race to become a large parking lot for Edmonds, Lynnwood and Bothell. City of Edmonds councilmem-
bers agreed.
Councilmember Bill Kasper of Edmonds said it was never envisioned or planned by Community Transit
that large parking lots would be built at train stations in Mountlake Terrace or Edmonds area,
and that access to trains would be by bus.
Edmonds City Council President Earling said the City of Edmonds is on record stating that the
City -opposes any rail going through the Interurban because of the residential nature of the area.
With regards to the potential Highway 99 alignment, Council President Earling said the City is
also opposed to this until somebody can prove that it is a good idea and provides good benefits.
Mayor Berg of Mountlake Terrace said he also does not support going through the Interurban in
Edmonds.
Action on this item
The Mountlake Terrace and Edmonds City Council agreed that they will keep each other informed and
work together on these issues.
POTENTIAL SHARING OF PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND/OR EQUIPMENT
P I(L Mayor Roger Berg of Mountlake Terrace said sometime back the City of Mountlake Terrace and the
City of Lynnwood got together and built a Public Works Facility for their joint use. It was noted
the facility is within the city limits of Mountlake Terrace. The City of Lynnwood has notified
0 i the City of Mountlake Terrace that they will be constructing their own facility which will be
more centrally located and will be vacating their portion of the facility, in which Lynnwood has
paid for 60% of the costs. In talking with Mayor Hall of Edmonds, Mayor Berg said she relayed to
mot/ him that the City of Edmonds might be interested in the space which will be vacated by Lynnwood.
Mayor Berg said the City of Edmonds may want to reconsider developing the Public Works facility
on 200th at this time, as this may provide the City of Edmonds with a solution, if they are inter-
ested.
Councilmember Kasper of Edmonds said this is worth taking a look at and said at this time, the
City of Edmonds doesn't have the funding to to build everything it wants, i.e. motor pool mainte-
nance and said this'may provide the City with an option.
Mayor Berg said the Public Works facility is a state of the art facility and has state of the art
equipment.
Councilmember Kasper said maybe some of the functions that the City of Edmonds cannot afford to
build can be instead be found at the Mountlake Terrace facility, at least until funding is avail-
able in future years.
Mayor Berg said Lynnwood has indicated that they may have someone who will want to utilize the
space when they vacate it. Mayor Berg stressed the importance of consolidation of equipment be-
tween the cities.
Councilmembers from both cities discussed the variety of items that can be shared between the two
cities such as park equipment.
Councilmember Petruzzi of Edmonds said a recent purchase of a mower with a cost of $52,000 could
have been an expense shared with the City of Mountlake Terrace for joint usage. Councilmember.
Petruzzi said whenever the cost.and usage of equipment can be shared with other cities, it should
be done.
Mayor Hall of Edmonds the two cities already have a good plan whereby equipment is shared whenev-
er possible.
Councilmembers from both cities agreed that many items, thus the costs, could.be shared between
the cities, especially in light of the economy. It made sense to Councilmembers to share costs
and equipment whenever possible to save the taxpayers and the Cities money.
Action on this item
Council President Earling said he would place discussion of the shared Public Works Facility on
an upcoming City of Edmonds agenda. It was also the consensus that Edmonds Councilmembers would
tour the site.
KING COUNTY ANNEXATIONS
Q���fl� Mountlake Terrace Mayor Roger Berg discussed his city's interest in annexing to the south into
King County (Ballinger Village). Mayor Berg inquired on Edmonds' interest in annexing the Aurora
Village area. The two councils then discussed where a common boundary might be between the two
cities if both annexations were successful.
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Mountlake Terrace Councilmembers said it makes sense for Edmonds to annex the Aurora Village
area, and said Mountlake Terrace has no interest in annexing in that direction. Mountlake Terrace
and Edmonds Councilmembers felt this would provide the City of Edmonds with a good tax base.
Mountlake Terrace Councilmembers urged the City of Edmonds to move ahead on this if they are
interested because the Shoreline area is in the beginning stages of filing to become a city.
Councilmembers from Edmonds agreed that it is natural for Mountlake Terrace to annex to the
south, (Ballinger Village) and both Councils felt there were no conflicts concerning the subject
annexations.
Mayor Laura Hall said it would behoove Paul Mar, Community 'Services Director for Edmonds to get
together with Mountlake Terrace City Manager Walter Fehst and lay the ground work for a possible
common boundary.
Councilmember Kasper of Edmonds said he is interested in exploring the option of annexing further
south to 178th, where auto dealerships are located, which would provide Edmonds with a greater
tax base.
Mountlake Terrace City Councilmember McMahan said he attended a recent meeting, in which Edmonds
Community Services Director Paul Mar made an excellent presentation. Council President Earling
and Councilmembers agreed that Mr. Mar does an excellent job.
Action on this item
As stated above, Paul Mar, Community Services Director of Edmonds, and Mountlake Terrace City
Manager Walter Fehst will get together and lay the ground work for a common boundary.
POTENTIAL JOINT USE OF FIRE DEPARTMENT FACILITIES
Mayor Laura Hall of Edmonds said the Edmonds Fire Chief has stated he supports the idea of a
joint fire training facility.
( Councilmember Kasper of Edmonds said he believes fire department consolidation is the answer and
provides a great opportunity.
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I� Councilmember McMahan said he also supports fire department consolidation.
Councilmember Palmer of Edmonds said it is important that the goals of fire consolidation become
`l1 more defined. Councilmember Palmer suggested the Fire Chiefs from both cities get together and
list some options which could then be taken before both Councils. Councilmember Palmer said fire
department consolidation would save the taxpayers a great deal of money, which is a main goal of
the elected official.
Councilmember Petruzzi of Edmonds asked fellow Councilmember Dwyer if this discussion has come up
before at past Public Safety Committee meetings. Councilmember Dwyer replied affirmatively, and
said many issues have surfaced such as the different way volunteer fire fighters are used in the
various cities, as well as the various bargaining units. Councilmember Dwyer said he is not an
advocate of consolidation at this point unless some definite options and plans come together
which would address his concerns. Councilmember Dwyer agreed with Councilmember Palmer and said
the two fire chiefs should discuss the issue beyond theory and then address the councils with
workable options.
Councilmember Hall of Edmonds agreed.
Action on this item
Councilmembers requested the two fire chiefs get together and report back to the respective Coun-
cils on their findings.
Councilmember Petruzzi of Edmonds said the two Councils should meet more often, especially in
light of the Growth Management Process. Councilmember Petruzzi said the cities should join forces
on many issues.
Council President Earling thanked Mayor Hall and Mountlake Terrace City Manager Walter Fehst for
attending the meeting.
With no futher business before e City Council, the meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Laur a 1, a or R b a J. Marc , City Clerk
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