05/14/1985 City CouncilTHESE MINUTES SUBJECT
TO MAY 21 APPROVAL
EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
May 14, 1985
(Work Meeting)
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:04 p.m. by Mayor
Larry Naughten in the Plaza Meeting Room of the Edmonds Library. All present joined in the
flag salute.
PRESENT ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
Larry Naughten, Mayor Doug Reuble, Bobby Mills, Actg. Pub. Wks. Supt.
John Nordquist Student Representative Art Housler, Admin. Svcs. Director
Steve Dwyer Jim Adams, City Engineer
Laura Hall Steve Simpson, Parks & Rec. Director
Jo -Anne Jaech Dan Prinz, Police Chief
Bill Kasper Gary McComas, Fire Marshal
Lloyd Ostrom Linda McCrystal, Info/Arts Coordinator
Jack Wilson Pat LeMay, Personnel Manager
Jackie Parrett, City Clerk
Scott Snyder, City Attorney
Shirlie Witzel, Recorder
CONSENT AGENDA
Items (0), (H), and (L) were removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion. Councilmember
Jaech noted that the Mayor had informed the Council that Item (G), Report on Bids for
Replacement of Wade James Theater Carpet and Award of Contract to Reliable Floor Covering,
Inc., was being rescheduled to May 21 to obtain further information and was removed from the
Consent Agenda. COUNCILMEMBER DWYER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, TO APPROVE THE
BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The approved items on the Consent Agenda
included the following:
(A) Roll call.
(B) Approval of minutes of May 7, 1985.
(C) Acknowledgment of receipt of claims for damages from Sandra Goodhope Avanessian
($876.98).
(E) Authorization to sell surplus light poles to Evergreen Speedway (John Beetle)($400).
(F) Authorization to call for bids for surplus IBM Memory 100 Typewriter (Min. Bid $500)
(1) Authorization for Mayor to sign contract with Lee Johnson Consultants for design
of improvements at Brackett's Landing ($22,500).
(J) Authorization to sell surplus police motorcycle ($500).
(,K) Passage of Resolution of Intention 266 initiating the process to adopt Initiative
and Referendum Powers for the City of Edmonds.
PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING OFFICIAL STREET MAP TO REDUCE PROPOSED RIGHT-OF-WAY OF 78TH AVE.
W BETWEEN 236TH AND 238TH ST. S.W. (ST-2-85) [Item (0) on Consent Agenda]
Councilmember Nordquist asked if reducing this right-of-way would affect the existing
subdivision design at this location, specifically the access of one lot on 78th Ave. W.
Mr. Adams said the subdivision was on the east side of the street and would not be affected
except that the additional property taken from that side would be returned if the
right-of-way were reduced. He indicated that Ms. Medina has access to her property from
78th Ave. W. Mr. Snyder interjected that the rule of thumb is to return the property
equally among affected property owners. Councilmember Kasper asked how many more lots would
be created on the Medina property. Mr. Adams could not say what Ms. Medina was planning
for a future date. Asked why the Council had not been furnished copies of the findings and
recommendations from the Hearing Examiner, Mr. Adams replied there would not be any effect
on the subdivision and the staff was attempting to reduce paper usage by submitting only
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essential information. COUNCILMEMBER NOROQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNC[LMEMBER OSTROM, TO
POSTPONE APPROVAL OF AMENDING THE OFFICIAL STREET MAP UNTIL INFORMATION FROM THE HEARING
EXAMINER IS AVAILABLE AND THE IMPACT ON THE MEDINA PROPERTY IS KNOWN.
Councilmember Hall asked why this item was being questioned at this time when the Council
had instructed the City Attorney to prepare the ordinance during the April 23 Council
meeting. Councilmember Nordquist said he had never seen a drawing showing all of the
properties involved. MOTION CARRIED.
PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 20.70 OF THE EDMONDS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE
ESTABLISHING METHOD OF DETERMINING VALUE OF VACATED CITY PROPERTY
Item L on Consent Agenda
Councilmember Jaech suggested the City Attorney initial the agenda memo to indicate whether
he had seen and approved ordinances brought before the Council. City Attorney Scott Snyder
indicated he had approved and drafted the ordinance in question. He said he drafts the
ordinances and therefore is aware of their content. COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO APPROVE PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2493 AMENDING CHAPTER 20.70 OF THE
EDMONDS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE. MOTION CARRIED.
REPORT ON BIDS FOR SALE OF SURPLUS CITY PROPERTY AT 76TH AVE., NORTH OF 244TH, AND AWARD OF
SALE TO DAVID S. WHITE (S19 100) [Item (H) on Consent Agenda]
Councilmember Nordquist asked if the difficulties connected with this property were
described to the bidders. Mr. Adams said there was discussion of the difficulties at both
the time of advertising the property and at the bid opening. He said the bidder owns
property around the corner, plans to use this property as an access, and was advised that
the property would not be adequate for a large commercial or retail business. Councilmember
Wilson asked if the money must go back into the street fund. Mr. Adams replied the Council
would designate use of the money. Since the funds originally came from the Street Fund,
COUNCILMETIBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDOUIST, TO ACCEPT THE BID OF
$19,100 FOR THE PROPERTY BASED ON THE ASSESSED VALUE WITH FUNDS TO GO TO THE STREET FUND FOR
STREET MAINTENANCE. MOTION CARRIED.
REVIEW OF NEW COUNCIL DAIS ($6,500)
Acting Public Works Superintendent Bobby Mills described the proposed dais and change in the
Plaza Meetino Room. He said a raised dais will enable the audience to more easily see the
Council members, who will be on one level a step above the audience. Councilmembers Ostrom
and Jaech saw no reason for purchasing new chairs since the present ones are adequate and
comfortable. Councilmember Wilson said the idea is a good one but he will vote against it
since he does not wish to spend money for this project.
Because there have been comments from members of the audience regarding difficulty in
determining who is speaking during Council meetings, Mayor Naughten said the proposed plan
is being presented for Council consideration. He said cost of materials would be $2,500 and
labor would be done in-house. lie noted that an outside contract for labor is estimated to
cost $9,200 not including the chairs. Mr. Mills commented that the audience would occupy
space about two rows closer than now possible. Councilmember Jaech asked if a reverse plan
would not be better since the screen would not be located against the windows.
Councilmember Kasper asked what would be done with the present dais and Mr. Mills replied
that it could be utilized in the Recreation Department.
Councilmember Ostrom observed that the present room is not a good place for the audience and
especially for those in the back of the room and also mentioned the difficulty with the
sound system. He said he would be in favor of the proposal if it is the best configuration.
Councilmember Hall agreed and noted that she had suggested the old dais be saved from the
previous Council Chambers. She said the slight elevation would be helpful to both the
audience and the Council in being able to see each other.
Councilmember Kasper asked that Mr. Mills determine whether the present furniture could be
used to achieve the proposed configuration rather than designing new furniture. Mr. Mills
agreed that he could do that and then explained that he would not want to start the project.
until after the Arts Festival. He said, if the basic concept were approved and he could
make the present furniture fit that concept, they could then start on the project
immediately following the Festival. Councilmember Kasper asked if the dais would be
collapsible. Mayor Naughten indicated that it would be necessary in order to store the
dais, since this room is rented through 1986 and any permanent dais could present problems
for those wishing to use the room. Councilmember Jaech asked that a front panel be
included. Councilmember Hall felt there might be people who would appreciate a counter in
the room and therefore it might not have to be stored. Parks and Recreation Director Steve
Simpson said some people might use such a counter but many would not wish to do so and they
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would lose the use of the area; therefore, he said, there should be flexibility in the
design.
COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL TO ERECT
A DAIS FOR THE COUNCIL TO USE. THERE WAS A ROLL CALL VOTE WITH COUNCILMEMBERS HALL, JAECH,
KASPER, AND OSTROM VOTING YES AND COUNCILMEMBERS NORDQUIST, DWYER AND WILSON VOTING NO.
MOTION CARRIED.
AUTHORIZATION TO SELL TWO 1/2 TON PICKUPS AND CALL FOR BIDS FOR PURCHASE OF ONE 3/4 TON
PICKUP FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT ($11,000)
Fire Marshal Gary McComas explained that the two pickups are at the end of their life
expectancy and should be declared surplus and placed for bids. He said the need for a 3/4
ton pickup has always existed since the heavier load rating is more suitable for Fire
Department needs. In response to a question from the Mayor, he said the estimated value of
the Dodge pickup is $900 and the Ford is $400-500. Mr. McComas explained that the Dodge
has had transmission problems resulting in fifth replacements with the sixth imminent. He
said the Ford was given to the City by the Department of Emergency Management and originally
came from the Department of Defense and has been driven over 100,000 miles. He noted that
wet hoses, breathing apparatus and other equipment used at a fire are loaded on these trucks
for transport to the station, resulting in a load of 1 to 1 1/2 tons. Mr. McComas said a
3/4 ton pickup will carry that kind of load.
Councilmember Kasper asked why a new truck was needed and if a truck in use by Public Works
could not be used. Mr. McComas replied that a new truck would provide approximately 15
years of service, that the Fire Department uses yellow vehicles for emergency response and
the vehicle would be fitted with a light bar. Councilmember Wilson said this was discussed
in Public Safety Committee and there are funds in the budget for the replacement.
Since she had been aware of the problem for some time and agreed with the proposal,
COUNCILMEMBER HALL MOVED, SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST, TO AUTHORIZE
THE FIRE CHIEF TO SURPLUS AND SELL THE TWO 1/2 TON PICKUPS AND CALL FOR BIDS ON A 3/4 TON
PICKUP. Councilmember Nordquist asked if funds are budgeted for this purchase. Mr.
McComas said funds are available in Fund 005 for the purchase. Councilmember Kasper asked
why one truck would now be sufficient. Mr. McComas replied that there were more personnel
in the Fire Prevention Bureau in past years. MOTION CARRIED.
PROPOSAL TO REPLACE PR08ATION WARRANT OFFICER WITH ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICER POSITION ($9,445)
Police Chief Dan Prinz said the Probation Warrant Officer had left the position a month ago
and has not been replaced. The South District Court has taken the probation duties at no
additional cost and the other duties have been redistributed within the Department, he said.
In weighing replacement of the probation position against hiring another police officer,
Chief Prinz decided to ask for a police officer. He said the additional officer would help
reduce the use of reserve officers for overtime duty. The Chief described the increased
workload over the past five years and their method of prioritizing that workload. He asked
that the Probation Warrant Officer position be replaced with a Police Officer Position.
Councilmember Wilson asked if the officer would be placed in rotation. Chief Prinz replied
affirmatively. He said the officer would be placed on the swing shift to handle areas such
as Sunset and Ocean Ave, at the present time, those areas are staffed with reserve officers.
In addition, he said the north end does not receive the attention that is needed.
Councilmember Kasper commented that adding personnel, when the City does not know what will
be happening to revenue sharing funds, would not be prudent. He noted that the extra duty
necessary at Sunset and Ocean Ave. is needed only three or four months a year. Chief
Prinz noted that there would be a saving of $11,000 this year if the position were filled in
September. In addition, he said there would be only $5,000 extra needed in next year's
budget.
Councilmember Hall expressed concern that there would be a loss of revenue without a
Probation Officer. She asked for a breakdown of that information, saying she realized the
need for an additional police officer but does not want to lose a revenue producing
position. Chief Prinz explained that the warrants were served by many officers and the
warrant money is not income to the City but goes to the Court. He said the amount of
revenue produced was not large in relation to the money expended for services. In response
to a question from Councilmember Wilson, Chief Prinz said the City would save approximately
2/3 of the $10,000 expended on Sunset Ave. in 1984. Councilmember Wilson observed that the
additional funds for an officer would then be offset by the cost savings on Sunset Ave.
Based on the need for an additional officer and the cost factors just discussed,
COUNCILMEMBER WILSON MOVED, SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMEMBER NOROQUIST, TO AUTHORIZE
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APPROVAL OF A NEW POLICE OFFICER TO REPLACE THE PROBATION WARRANT OFFICER AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE.
Councilmember Nordquist asked for the recommendation of the Public Safety Committee.
Councilmember Wilson said the Committee recommended approval. Councilmember Hall reiterated
her request for justification in eliminating the position and the possible loss of revenue.
Councilmember Kasper noted that one administrative staff person had been added to the
Department during the last year. Chief Prinz said the Department has never been up to full
staffing for more than a month at a time because people are leaving or someone is on
disability.
For the reasons previously stated, Councilmember Kasper will vote against the motion. He
said he would also like to see the ramifications of eliminating the position and feels no
one officer should be expected to deal with the warrants. He also said he objects to making
these changes in a piecemeal fashion and would prefer to look at the whole picture,
including expected retirements. He would like to know how much comes into the City treasury
other than what goes to the County. Councilmember Dwyer noted that police officers are
always executing warrants and will continue to do so. He said if the duties of the
Probation Officer are being carried by others, there is no reason to hire anyone for that
position.
Since the Council decided at the last retreat to have a pre -budget hearing in August,
COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO AMEND THE MOTION, TO
DISCUSS HIRING A POLICE OFFICER AT THE PRE -BUDGET HEARING IN AUGUST. Councilmember Dwyer
asked if that were a realistic timetable. Chief Prinz said they would expect to hire
someone from a lateral entry list to be established in July and the timing would be good.
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION CARRIED. MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED, CARRIED WITH COUNCILMEMBER KASPER
VOTING NO.
In response to questions about the validity of the amendment, Mr. Snyder said he heard the
amendment and motion as a tabling of the issue to the August meeting. In an attempt to
clarify the motion and amendment, COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER
KASPER, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION AND DECISION ON THE HIRING OF AN ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICER TO
THE PRE -BUDGET DISCUSSION IN AUGUST. MOTION CARRIED.
CITY OF EDMONDS GIFTS CATALOG PROPOSAL
Mr. Simpson said the proposal before the Council had been over a year in preparation. He
noted that Edmonds has a tradition of giving but some people do not know about specific
needs. However, he said the needs are many and a gift catalog would be a way to encourage
donations and memorial gifts. He explained that this was also a high priority with the
members of the DDAT Team and the idea was explored of joining forces to publish the cataloo.
Arts and Information Coordinator Linda McCrystal described the makeup of the catalog,
explaining that the loose leaf style allowed for updating of needs by adding new ideas and
removing those no longer needed. The style also allows different groups to tailor the
catalog to their specific interests by including only items related to that interest. She
noted that the cover will be printed by someone else but the inside pages can be printed by
the City, thus saving on printing costs. She said the original order of 5,000 covers will
provide a cost break.
Mayor Nau.ghten observed that Seattle printed a gift catalog last year and several cities in
Oregon have them. Mr. Simpson said the catalogs used in Oregon have recovered more than
the cost of printing and the.catalog used in Portland has been used for several years and
the City has realized many benefits.
Mayor Naughten asked if the name of the donee would be on the item donated. Mr. Simpson
said that was the idea unless they wished to remain anonymous. Referring to the bench and
paving bricks on display, Ms. McCrystal said they were examples of what might be donated;
each page in the catalog would contain information about the item, including its price.
Dave Earling, DOAT Task Force, said the Task Force had been in existence for a year in June
and are nearly ready to make recommendations to the appropriate City Boards or Chamber
groups. He said one area of interest is further unifying and beautifying the triangle
formed by 5th Ave. S., Main St., the waterfront and Dayton St. He explained that one idea
is to use trees and pavers to tie these areas together and provide encouragement to people
to move from one area to another. He said they would encourage benches throughout the area
and would like to see some visually attractive light standards in the area, which could be
handled with a donation program. He said many people including him and his wife would
appreciate an opportunity to make memorial donations and the key to such a program is a gift
catalog.
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Councilmember Hall said her husband walked in Edmonds every day and she bought a tree in his
memory; if there had been a catalog, she would have bought a bench. She said the idea is
long overdue.
Mr. Simpson said he appreciated the Council's endorsement and suggested that they might
consider a gift from the Council Contingency Fund for the printing. Asked what the catalog
will cost, Mr. Simpson said he would determine that and report to the Council at a future
date.
MAYOR
Mayor Naughten read a letter he had written to Dan Prinz congratulating him for achieving
the low crime rates reported in 1984 with the lowest officer to population ratios and one of
the lowest per capita costs in the area.
The Mayor announced that the Association of Snohomish County Cities dinner will be May 23 at
Vick's Restaurant in Stanwood. Anyone wishing to attend should contact his secretary for
reservations.
Mayor Naughten proclaimed the week of May 19-25 as Public Works Week in Edmonds.
Councilmember Jaech said National Historic Preservation Week should also be observed. Mayor
Naughten said he was planning to do so.
Mayor Naughten said the Edmonds Arts Commission had announced that their first Arts
Scholarship for a graduating Edmonds Senior will be awarded to Manami White, daughter of
Edmonds City employee Mayumi White.
COUNCIL
Councilmember Dwyer suggested the Council deal with the issue raised in the memorandum from
the City Attorney regarding massage parlors. Councilmember Nordquist said the Council had
spent much time in consideration of the present ordinance. Mr. Snyder explained the
problem encountered by the person wishing to operate a massage therapy office in a doctor's
park setting, a setting not included in the exemptions of .the present code. He said there
is no latitude for the City Clerk to issue a license.
COUNCILMEMBER DWYER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO INSTRUCT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
PREPARE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE IN ACCORDANCE WITH HIS MEMORANDUM OF MAY b, 1985.
Councilmember Nordquist asked how this would be controlled. Councilmember Ostrom noted that
the hours indicated are consistent with the hours of a medical professional and an ordinance
could be tied to that. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilmember Hall had noted the blue buttons installed by the Fire Department at hydrant
locations and said they should be very helpful. She was also pleased to see .the plantings
at Caspers and 9th Ave. She thanked everyone for their concern during her son's accident
and said he is progressing well.
Councilmember Wilson suggested the Council discuss a request received by the City Clerk for
a residential parking permit for a large truck. Mayor Naughten explained that the present
ordinance does not define a motor vehicle; therefore, there is no .prohibition against this
20,000 lb, truck parking on the street with a residential permit. He suggested the
ordinance might be worded to limit vehicle weight to under 10,000 lb.
COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, TO INSTRUCT THE CITY ATTORNEY
TO AMEND THE EXISTING ORDINANCE TO NOT ISSUE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMITS TO COMMERCIAL
VEHICLES OVER 10,000 LB.
Councilmember Dwyer suggested this matter be considered by the Community•Services Committee.
Ms. Parrett interjected that the area in question is zoned BC but has been developed as a
residential area. Mr. Snyder said the person meets the requirements for a permit and when
it is issued it would be good for one year regardless of any changes to the ordinance. He
explained that the owner is being ticketed for parking the truck longer than the four hour
limit and will apply for the residential parking permit, and he suggested that limiting each
permit holder to one parking space might solve the problem; however, Ms. Parrett said the
street is not marked into parking .spaces. Councilmember Dwyer felt there was some
difficulty in restricting a commercial truck from being parked in an area in which the truck
may be driven. Councilmember Nordquist said the truck requires several parking spaces in an
area that has very few spaces available. Because this is located in a commercial zone, Ms.
Parrett said there are no weight limitations and, since the property is located in downtown
Edmonds, the truck is not necessarily being driven through a residentially zoned area. She
had suggested the truck be parked in a commercial lot, but the owner prefers to have his
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truck and trailer closer for security reasons. In addition, she said he claims
documentation to prove residence at that address. She noted that the ordinance provides for
residential parking permits in BC zones. Chief Prinz said there is a problem with noise
when the truck is started as well as the parking problem.
Councilmember Jaech said the intent of the ordinance was to allow residents to park
autos --cars, not trucks --in front of their residence in a commercial zone, and allowing a
truck of this size defeats that purpose. Councilmember Hall noted that two types of parking
permits may be needed, one for residents in BC zones and one for owner -occupied apartments
above businesses where the owner has a commercial truck.
Councilmember Dwyer will vote against the motion since it makes no sense to restrict parking
of a commercial vehicle in a zone where that vehicle may be driven.
A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN WITH COUNCILMEMBERS NOROQUIST, JAECH, KASPER, OSTROM AND WILSON
VOTING YES AND COUNCILMEMBERS DWYER AND HALL VOTING NO. MOTION CARRIED.
Council President Nordquist said the file on the Brubaker Hearings is available in the
Council office for Council members to read.
* Councilmember Ostrom asked if all the questions connected with the Chase Lake property had
been answered and suggested the Council Resource Person review the past minutes to catch
anything not resolved. Councilmember Kasper explained he was still attending the meetings
between the County and the residents of the Esperance area.
Councilmember Ostrom noted the letter written by Mr. Simpson defending Edmonds' image
concerning youth in the area and said he agreed with what was said. He believes it is time
the image of Edmonds as an older community that doesn't care for its youth was banished.
Mayor Naughten said he was upset by the article in the Herald and had gotten together with
Mr. Simpson to respond.
Because no action has been taken to date on the subject of satellite antennas, COU14CILMEMBER
JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, TO INSTRUCT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN
ORDINANCE IMPOSING A MORATORIUM ON ANY SATELLITE ANTENNAS GOING UP UNTIL A DECISION HAS BEEN
MADE ON HOW THEY WILL BE REGULATED. Councilmember Wilson suggested that a time limit be
placed on the moratorium. COUNCILMEMBER JAECH AMENDED THE MOTION TO PLACE A LIMITATION OF
THREE MONTHS ON THE MORATORIUM, AGREEABLE TO SECOND.
Councilmember Dwyer said he would vote against the motion since he is not able to determine
in what direction the City will move when the Planning Board discussions are completed.
Councilmember Jaech said if such antennas are installed before regulations are enacted there
will be nothing that can be done about them and they will be grandfathered in regardless of
where they are located. A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN WITH COUNCILMEMBERS HALL, JAECH, OSTROM
AND WILSON VOTING YES AND COUNCILMEMBERS NOROQUIST, DWYER AND KASPER VOTING NO. MOTION
CARRIED.
Councilmember Kasper described the City of Darrington's problem with their water system and
suggested that Edmonds look at its block grant funding to see if some funds could be
deferred for that use as other Cities in the County are doing. Mayor Naughten suggested the
Community Services Committee examine the subject.
The meeting was recessed to Executive Session at 9:00 p.m. to consider labor negotiations
and was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
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AllC ELINE G. PARRETT, City Clerk LT'STOUGRTEN, .1 or
* See May 21, 1985
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