06/18/1985 City CouncilTHESE, MIiwTES SUBJECT
TO JULY 2 APPROVAL
EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
June 18, 1985
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:00 p.m., by Mayor Pro
Tem John Nordquist, in the.Plaza Meeting Room of the Edmonds Library. All present joined in
the flag salute.
PRESENT ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
John Nordquist Larry Naughten Bobby Mills, Acting Public Works Supt.
Steve Dwyer Duane Bowman, Assistant Planner
Laura Hall Mary Lou Block, Planning Director
Jo -Anne Jaech Jackie Parrett, City Clerk
Bill Kasper Scott Snyder, City Attorney
Lloyd Ostrom Peter Hahn, Commun. Srvcs.Dir.
Jack Wilson Art Housler, Admin. Srvcs. Dir.
Tom Cole, Student Rep. Robin Hickok, Asst. Police Chief
Steve Simpson, Parks & Rec. Dir.
Reid Shockey, Consultant
Alice Brown, Recorder
Jim Adams, City Engineer
CONSENT AGENDA
Items (B) and (D) were removed from the Consent Agenda for discussion. Councilmember Jaech
moved, seconded by Councilmember Dwyer, to approve the balance of the Consent Agenda. Motion
carried. The approved items on the Consent Agenda included the following:
(A) Roll Call
(C) Adoption of Ordinance 2502 amending Chapter 21.05 of Community Development Code defin-
ing the term "Alley" (CDC-12-84) .
(E) Final PRD and Subdivision approval of Edmonds View Division 1 & 2 at 72nd Ave. W. and
172nd St. S. W., and at 7302 Meadowdale Rd. (Old National Finance Services/P-3-84,
PRD-1-81, PRD-2-81)
(F) Report on bids opened June 11, 1985 for paint striping machine and award
of contract to Sahlberg Safety Co. ($14,768.27)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JUNE 4 AND 11, 1985 [Item (B) on Consent Agenda]
Councilmember Hall wished to note under the June 4 minutes the following corrections: On page
4, under Community Services Award, the spelling to be corrected to Aliverti; on page 6, on the
Insurance Pool discussion, the spelling to be corrected to Bucklin; and on page 7, she was
desirous of having the minutes restated to indicate that the Mayor was not on "vacation", but
was in the hospital having surgery. Councilmember Nordquist noted that the way it is stated in
the minutes is the way the Mayor preferred that it be referred to.
Councilmember hall wished to note under the June 11 minutes the following correction: On page
2, the artist's name should be spelled Crisse. COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, TO HAVE THE MINUTES OF JUNE 11TH SHOW ON THE LAST PAGE, PRIOR TO
ADJOURNMENT, THAT THE MATTER TO WHICH HE HAD REFERRED AS A "LEGAL MATTER" TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE
THE COUNCIL AND CITY ATTORNEY DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION, HAD NOT BEEN DISCUSSED. MOTION TO ADD
THIS STATEMENT TO THE MINUTES CARRIED.
COUNCILMEMBER HALL MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JUNE 4,
1985 AND JUNE 11, 1985, TO INCLUDE THE CORRECTIONS AS NOTED. MOTION CARRIED.
AUTHORIZATION TO PURCHASE RADIX COMPUTER READING DEVICE ($22,000) [Item (D) on the Consent
Agenda)
Councilmember Wilson asked the staff if, in purchasing the computer reading device, where it
refers to a minimum saving of 45 days in the Public Works Department, and one-half time in the
Finance Department, that means that there will be a part-time person in Finance, and further
how will the 45 days project into a cost savings In the Public Works Department. Mr. Housler
stated that the Manpower person in the keypunch area will no longer be needed once the meter
reading device is in operation, as it will plug into the computer. Mr. Hahn stated that
because the meter reader will be doing a handheld meter reading, other time will be used for
installation of new meters and repair of faulty or broken meters. There are presently 500 new
meters installed a year; and this will give better maintenance of those meters. The intent at
this time is not to let anyone go, but this will help reduce the number of complaints from
citizens. Therefore, there is no actual cost savings, but better service to the public.
Councilmember Jaech asked about the reference to two meter readers vs. one meter reader, except
during inclement weather, and Mr. Mills stated that when there is heavy rain, they must have
two people reading meters, further clarifying that there must be two people when one person
goes down in a confined space. Mr. Hahn explained how the system is to work, stating that the
route for the day is punched out like a TV screen, whereby there is no need for a book for the
addresses. Councilmember Jaech stated that if it is not always necessary for two meter
readers, perhaps the adverse comments from the public 'would diminish. She further asked why
$16,000 was budgeted for, but now they are asked to expend $22,000. After further discussion,
it was requested of the staff.to give an itemization. Councilmember Kasper asked why the total
funding was not requested, and Mr. Hahn stated that the PC is needed for two reasons, one being
that the City needs to have a software package loaded in that will do the necessary functions,
and at the same time it will serve as an IBM terminal. Along with the system it will be
running word processing and other programs.
Mr. Housler stated that essentially there was $13,000 for the meter reading device, and $1,500
for people to revise the rerouting scheme, and $6,000 for the personal computer which will be
utilized for transfer of data electronically. As stated by Mr. Hahn, it will be used for other
purposes in the public works area.
Councilmember Jaech asked, and was told that the model in Mr. Hahn's office is the XT model and
is primarily used by Mr. Hahn 95% of the time. She questioned why, since the XT has such a large
capacity, it or other PC's in Community Services could not be used, to which Mr. Hahn replied that
the people who use the meter readers are stationed in Public Works, and while they could use other
personal computers, right now they are not tied into the system. It was determined that there is
one personal computer in Engineering, as well as one in Parks And Recreation, for a total of three
in the Community Services area. Councilmember Ostrom stated he felt that since the PC is used
for other services, it should not be charged exclusively to the Water/Sewer Fund.
COUNCILMEMBER WILSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, TO APPROVE ITEM (D) ON THE
CONSENT AGENDA, WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES PERSONNEL TO PRESENT AN ITEMIZATION AND
BREAKDOWN OF THE COSTS FOR THE COUNCIL TO SEE. MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Pro Tem Nordquist introduced the new Student Representative, Tom Cole, from Meadowdale
High School, who will be with the Council for a short time, and also introduced City Attorney
Snyder, as well as Alice Brown, who is Recorder during the absence of Shirley Witzel.
AnnT ENr.F
Mr. Kirby White, 639 - 8th Avenue S., Edmonds, was present to relate an experience he had
recently had through a telephone solicitation from a representative of the Lynnwood Police
Department. The funds they were soliciting were for a "Child Abuse Fund", and after talking
with the individual. for some time and asking what percentage of any monies collected went to
the children, in the final analysis it only amounted to 5%. Mr. White stated he had checked
further and was glad to find that the Edmonds Police Department had not participated in this.
His request t, the Council was that they write a letter or make a statement to the press that
this type of solicitation was not acceptable, and specifically direct the Edmonds Fire and
Police Departments never to participate with such a program.
Councilmember Wilson stated that his wife had a similar experience, and had found that this is
an out-of-town for -profit group, and that the Council did not wish their people to participate
in this.
City Attorney Snyder suggested that Mr. White contact the Washington State Attorney General's
office, since there is a statute dealing specifically with telephone solicitation.
The second item Mr. White wished to call to the attention of the Council was the situation
where the serviceman had been killed during the airplane hijacking/hostage incident, asking the
Council to direct a letter to the President of the United States telling him of their support
during this time.
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Mr. Nik Aldrich, 18628 - 42nd P1. W., was present, stating he owned Lot 14, Talbot Park. His
situation involves a 10' easement which allows access to the City's pumpstation. He stated his
lot has been up for sale, and the buyer wanted the lot surveyed. When this was accomplished,
they found that one-half the road ended up being part of this property. He asked for any help
that the City could give him, and City Attorney Snyder stated that if the road has been in place
for more than 10 years so that the City's access road has acquired rights by adverse possession,
that perhaps Mr. Aldrich could request that the Council vacate any rights which may be acquired
by adverse possession.
Councilmember Nordquist stated that it would be appropriate to bring this before the Council
after the staff has had a chance to look it over, and suggested that Mr. Aldrich talk to the
staff. Councilmember Kasper felt that asking for the fence to be moved would perhaps be a
simple matter, and it was the Council's consensus that because it was not possible to visualize
what was being requested, that the petitioner needed to submit his request in the form of a
written application for vacation of the road. Planning Director Block explained that where a
request is initiated by a petitioner, there is a fee involved, but a Council -initiated vacation
request did not involve a fee. If Mr. Aldrich will contact the staff, they will report back to
the Council at the meeting of July 2.
HEARING ON PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF HIGHWAY 99 STUDY
Planning Director Block gave the background of this present study, stating that the Planning
Board'.has been working on the implementation plan on the Highway .99 Study which was done three
years ago, and is now ready to submit their recommendations to the Council. Some of these
recommendations include the node concept, and several other conditional use criteria for
high-rise buildings, as well as establishment of a 45' building height limit in the CG-2 Zone (a
new concept). She introduced Reid Shockey, .a consultant, who has been working with the Board
and with whom the City contracted nearly a year ago, as well as Planning Board Members Jan
Phillips, Bob Boye, Hank Lewis, and Bill Mathias, and then turned the meeting over to Mr.
Shockey.
Mr. Shockey touched on the significant points of the implementation program, among which was
- input into the preparation of two ordinance proposals, recognition of Lake Ballinger as a
community resource, and addressing the maximum development of Highway 99. He felt that the
Board had given a strong statement so as to maximize the commercial development, but not harm
the residential areas near Highway 99. . He alluded to the "Bill of Rights" which had been
devised, and stated that the Board wished to accomplish a partnership feeling between the
business community; the developers, and the City. .The purpose of the statement is to say that
while disagreements about specifics as to what may develop may occur, everyone can disagree
while still moving ahead in a progressive and constructive way. The .Board also felt very
strongly that this is not .just talking about a partnership between businesses and the City, but
in fact is referring to a partnershiip to include residents, as well.
He cited page 23, where City Attorney Snyder addressed the "urban sprawl" aspect of any Highway
99 development. The issue was simply where to draw the line --are we going to say that people
can come in now that we have reinforced our policy on commercial development (i.e., someone who
is located one parcel away requesting a rezone), and the Board felt strongly that a line had to
be drawn so that there were assurances given to those adjacent residential areas that they would
not see that expansion east and west away from the" strip" and into those neighborhoods. The
City Attorney had had a concern that future planning boards and councils could not be. committed
to certain actions. Therefore, six or seven paragraphs were added and have been helpful, as
well as recognizing what the state statutes say about the flexibility and latitude that councils
have.
He cited page 24, and the question of who offsets the impacts when development occurs --should
new development bear the costs of improvements, or should existing residents pay the cost. The
statement contained here tries to address this by saying that if new development is creating the
impact, then that new development has the responsibility to offset that impact; if improvements
are going in as a result of new development but benefits the larger community (new sewer lines,
new signal system, etc.), that to the extent that the overall community benefits from that
improvement, the community, through a capital improvements program or other dollar allocations
derived to achieve the improvements, must see this as a community responsibility.
Also on page 24 of the Study, the issue of drainage is addressed, and Mr. Shockey stated the
Board decided that a regional approach to drainage improvements should be taken, so that when a
developer is told to put in drainage improvements or the dollars to help the City. do the same,
it becomes part of the comprehensive regional system, rather than an unsuccessful attempt to
have every individual property take care of its own particular drainage problem. If the Council
approves the Board's recommendation, there is a statement in the.Community Development Code to
take the regional basin approach to drainage.
He cited page 25, where there is discussion regarding community protection to do something with
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all the non -arterial roads that intersect Highway 99 and provide convenient shortcuts for the
shopping public, but in fact cause traffic to go through neighborhoods. The discussion by the
Board addressed this issue by stating that if a vehicle comes off an arterial street and goes
into a neighborhood, it should do so because it belongs there, not to use this as a shortcut for
getting from Highway 99 to some other point in town. The discussion centered around whether to
restrict access, or block off streets, or perhaps vacate some connections in order to provide
that protection.
Councilmember Ostrom interjected at this point that street restrictions have been discussed in
the past, and it has always been controversial, and he felt there would be problems down the
line. Mr. Snyder answered by stating that "security of route" is not a recompensable injury.
There was discussion at the Board meetings that the first street that is blocked obviously will
have both pro and con. Each street that is blocked increases the traffic somewhere else, and
there was a general realization by the Board that if you do it on a piecemeal basis you
intensify problems and impact other areas. That is one reason that this wording was favored, in
order that a general policy statement be given.
Still addressing the barricading or restriction of streets, Mr. Shockey explained that no one
was taking a cavalier attitude about it to go in and shut down a street, but if the public comes
in and says "we have a traffic problem, and we the public would like to work with the City to
try to solve it", then certainly the Council should be receptive to that. There was also an
attitude taken by the Board that if that is a negative approach (restricting or blocking), there
is a positive approach that can be taken by trying to encourage a "loop" system through the
commcercial areas, so that if you have two arterials, eventually an attempt would be made to try
to get connections going north and south so that traffic does not feel the need to shortcut
through a neighborhood. Councilmember Kasper wished clarification of whether we were talking
about state funded urban arterials being shut down, to which Mr. Shockey replied "No, absolutely
not"; in fact, one of the Board's desires was to reaffirm the Arterial Street Plan for the City.
The community must realize that if you are going to designate a street as an arterial, and
there are improvements to that street, there must be an acknowledgement that it will carry a lot
of traffic, discouraging traffic from other residential streets.
Referring to page 28, Mr. Shockey stated that these Zoning Code amendments provide a fairly good
summary of what the major changes are, being 1) whether the liberal height limitation on Highway
99 should be increased, with the recommendation that the height limit on the west side of
Highway 99 be increased from 35' to 45' all the way up and down, with the exception of the
commercial nodes, which could conceivably go higher; 2) that the height limitations on the east
side of Highway 99 remain at 35'. This is where the "CG-1" and "CC-2" zones became established.
City Attorney Snyder interjected that while it is subtle, there is elimination of mobile home
parks as a permitted primary use.
Mr. Shockey indicated where the nodes would be located --one in the north and one in the south,
and stated this would amend the Comprehensive Plan Map and the Zoning Map.
Councilmember Kasper asked how many copies were distributed of the Study, and the answer was 35.
Mr. Shockey complimented Betty Mathay, Rachel Martin, and Dave Griffith, as well as the
newspapers, for their attendance at the meetings.
Councilmember Ostrom requested that multiple copies be provided to the Library, and Mr. Bowman
stated he would see this is. done.
Councilmember Kasper asked what the rationale for removing the "Dotes" property was, and
Mr. Shockey replied that there was considerable discussion about this, and the position the
Board has taken is that this possibly could be the next node, but that now is not the time
to designate it as such. The concerns of the Board were that with the node at 205th, and the
rather extensive nodes up north, there would be nothing unique about the nodes which would make
them appear exclusive to a developer.
Councilmember Ostrom complimented the Planning Board and Mr. Shockey for all the work they had
obviously done, stating that this is what the Council has asked for, and he thanked them for
their efforts.
Mayor Pro Tem Nordquist opened the public hearing to the audience.
Ms. Sally Burtscher, 7924 - 224th S. W., was present, and entered into the record a letter from
Rachel _Martin, stating her views on the Study, as one of the interested citizens who had
attended the Planning Board_meetings. Ms. Burtscher, stated she, too,` had attended several
meetings, and did not feel that development of Highway 99 is worth the price. She specifically
stated she did not want her street turned into an arterial, and stated that while it is good to
state the criteria, what is the process that a neighborhood and residents can go to deal with
the potential impacts. She would like to see the process that private citizens can use, such as
whether to come back before the Council or the Planning Board, etc. She stated it is a nice
place to live, and she did not want to see it turn into a "ghetto". In her opinion, this study
was a tantalizing prospect for increased revenue. She was desirous of having someone on the
Planning Board from the unincorporated area where she lives to represent their ideas.
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Mr. Bob Boye, 24325 - 76th W., Edmonds, was presented, and agreed with Ms. Burtscher that the
idea of a Planning Board member from the Esperance area was a good one. lie spoke about the
Highwayy 99 "hodgepodge", and further that he was not speaking as a representative of the
Planning Board. lie emphasized the three main complaints of residents on or near Highway 99 to
be traffic, drainage, and whether commercial area is going to creep down into the residential
areas. Another area of concern is the pollution factor, and the "Bill of Rights" states simply
that residents in the area are equal to the commercial development along the highway. Ile spoke
regarding the drainage problems in the Lake Ballinger area, citing the recent rain which raised
the lake 18" in one day. He informed the Council and audience that the Board is in the
beginning stage of considering recommendation of a surface water management advisory board to
advise the Council on matters of surface water management.. He touched on the fact that the
ordinance proposed addresses drainage, traffic, and "creeping commercialism", and he hoped that
the Council would not hurry their decisions. Rather, he urged them to refine what is there, and
he complimented Mr. Shockey in his ability to bring the people together to take a serious look
at this.
Councilmember Kasper asked if centralized ponding was a solution, and could be brought into the
Study, to which Mr. Boye replied that he wished people would take a look at the Henry Bacon
Builders Supply Store in Bellevue, which was done cooperatively by Metro and Bellevue, and which
is working.
Ms. Betty Mathay, 8006 = 240th S. W., was present. She had given the Council a handout with
several ideas she wished to put forth. She complimented the Board, past and present, citing the
fact that a tremendous amount of time and effort had gone into this and the result was an
excellent report. She wished to add that on page 24, that she hoped that maintenance of oil
separators would be addressed so that these could be checked on in terms of proper installation,
and to see that they do work. She commented on page 29, (D), Annexation, and would like to see
that portion deleted since it pertains to a sensitive area. She felt if it was not there it
would be easier to communicate with the county residents. She. felt that .the term "aesthetic
underdevelopment, was just another way of saying ratio of land value to property value,and would
like to see the word "economic" removed.
Ms. Carol Johnson, 22625 - 82nd W., stated that she chose to live in this area because of the
amenities, and did not wish to have the area impacted, but felt the commercial areas were a
plus. She felt that roads designated as arterials could be improved, and traffic directed to
them, but specifically referring to 228th Street, there are blind hills, and it is a dangerous
street with no shoulders. Another concern was that if people feel forced to move away, that a
wonderful population will be lost. She liked Highway 99 just the way it is.
Councilmember Nordquist declared the public portion of the hearing closed at 8:45 p.m.
Councilmember Kasper felt there should be another meeting in July, as well as August or
September, and asked that the staff prepare a map with the arterials on it, and provide copies
of the minutes of the Planning Board which pertain to the discussions on the Highway 99 Study.
Councilmember Hall .requested that it not be reduced, and Planning Director Block stated this
could be done.
COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO RECOMMEND A SECOND HEARING ON
THE HIGHWAY 99 STUDY, TO BE HELD JULY 16, 1985. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilmember Dwyer expressed a desire to talk about this at a work meeting before it comes back
to the Council. Councilmember Jaech felt she would like to hear the public input, so as to feel
more comfortable with the input. Councilmember Ostrom stated he was bothered that this is an
important issue,but he felt the public was not interested, and Planning Director Block responded
by stating that there could be perhaps 10 more copies disseminated, although 35 have been
distributed, but pointed out that there are a number of people present at the hearing tonight
who have not spoken, but have faithfully attended many of the Planning Board meetings. Mr.
Bowman also felt that the staff and Board had gone out of their way to compile a list and
advertise in order to make people aware of the study.
HEARING AND ADOPTION OF 6-YEAR TRANSPORTATION PLAN
City Engineer Adams gave the staff report, stating this is a required annual hearing in which
the Council adopts the plan by resolution.
Councilmember Dwyer asked Mr. Adams how the items come to be placed on this 6-year plan, and Mr.
Adams stated that the statutes of this state require that a plan be produced and adopted, and
sent in by the first of July each year. Projects must be identified which will be done during
the next year, and basically, the staff looks at these based upon the maintenance costs, public
input, amount of service and condition.of roads, and that is how the list is derived.
Councilmember Dwyer specifically inquired about the decision -making process as it concerns the
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102nd S. W. Street, since it was his understanding that the people there wished to be left
alone. Mr. Adams stated that we cannot spend this dedicated money unless it is part of the
Six -Year Street Plan. An option is to approve the plan, and in the budget process, simply not
budget for them. To do this cannot be accomplished without budgeting for something else, and
would need another hearing and another adoption of the Six -Year Transportation Plan.
Councilmember Jaech spoke with regard to Elm Street, as the Council had been told that something
would be brought back and she did not see anything regarding Elm Street. Councilmember Kasper
stated that Elm Street is on the Arterial Street Plan, and Mr. Adams stated that it is in the
process of being finished as designed:' Councilmember Jaech felt that with regard to Elm Street
there is a safety problem, and asked why there was a delay, to which Mr. Adams replied he could
not answer. Mr. Hahn stated that one question had arisen that if you widened it to three lanes
and then the third lane was used for parking, in effect you had the same travel lanes. Under
the development conditions from Homeland's development, the question is are we widening it for
parking or traffic based on city standards. The City"�s position was not to just pave and
increase run-off, but to meet city standards. Councilmember Jaech asked that the staff review
the minutes of the hearing, by listening to the tapes if necessary, and would like to have
something from the staff by the July 2nd Council meeting.
Mayor Pro Tem Nordquist opened the public portion of the hearing.
Ms. Cathy Katte, 911 SeaVista, Edmonds, had a question on the items to be done in 1985, and what
happens to those that are not done. Mr. Adams stated that because they were unfinished in 1985,
they would be finished later. Ms. Katte's main concern was 220th S. W. and 9th Avenues, and
strongly urged that a traffic light be placed there. Both her children go to Westgate, and when
the 220th interchange is finished in the fall, the danger will be increased at this
intersection. It now takes 10-15 minutes to get across for pedestrians. She stated that at
least the crosswalks were being freshly painted.
Mr. Adams stated that perhaps state funds will be given toward a signal, but that it takes six
months, but was also desirous of the Council putting it at the top of the list.
Ms. Carol Hayes, 709 Elm Place West, was concerned about the lack of a stop light at the 220th
and 9th Avenue intersection, and stated .that there was a list compiled of the accidents
occurring there, that cars do not stop for the crosswalks and/or the children to cross, and that
Elm Place needs a sidewalk. She asked if curbs are going to go in there, and was told they
were. Mr. Hahn stated that originally the concept was for asphalt curbs, and since the two
trees were removed, the City would put extruded concrete curbing in (that is why some asphalt
has been removed).. Ms. Hayes felt it would be advantageous to have "No Parking" signs on the
street between 7th and 8th Avenues. Mr. Hahn stated the signs will go back up.
Councilmember Jaech asked about the emergency exits from Homeland Homes, and was told these were
taken care,of, and four posts are up.
Pat Eldredge, 7717 - 200th S. W. referred to' a letter from Pat Wilson, and referred to
200th/Maplewood, stating that because of a number of children who use the street to walk to
school and the fact that it is a busy street, there is impaired sight distance where a driver
comes up over the hill, and it is a dangerous situation. She would like to see something
worked out so that the children will have a safe place to walk.
Mr. Cliff Eustis, 8328 - 200th S. W., stated he had sent a letter to the Council and Chamber of
Commerce objecting to sidewalks there, adding that thereareso many roads which are not fit,
but strongly opposed putting a curb on 200th.
Ms. Linda Bouchaert, 7710 - 200th S. W., had received a letter and was not opposed to
sidewalks, but they own two vehicles and perhaps are going to purchase another car. If the
sidewalk is there, there will be no room to park cars and they did not want to have to drive
into the front yard to park the car. Mr. Adams stated that if this Is approved and then
budgeted for, then the plans can be modified: Mr. Hahn felt that the problem here is that some
are for it and some are against it, and he needed to know what accommodations they are
requesting.
Councilmember Ostrom also asked what the term "City accommodating" them meant, and Mr. Adams
replied that the Code allows you to have a 20' width for a curb cut, and these can be placed
where you want it, if it is known ahead of time.
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Mr. Roy Cole, 7812 - 200th S. W., stated he had a unique situation since his property goes to
the centerline of the street, and did not feel the sidewalk was needed. He expressed concern
over the extreme cut that would need to be made by his property in order for the sidewalk to be
put there. Mr. Adams stated that the reason the sidewalk is not built is because there are
three people who have a situation similar to Mr. Coles, and we do not have title, but have
given the owners the opportunity to dedicate property to the City. No answers were received.
At approximately the same time that this was done, adverse letters were received, pushing this
project further into 1986. These items on the program are strictly funded by LID.
Mr. Cole asked if this sidewalk was going to be built anyway, and Mr. Snyder stated that the
City could take the property if it needed it. Mr. Snyder also stated that one point that
should be made is that for that portion of the roadway that is constructed, the City has
adverse possession rights to continue that use.
Mr. Al Starkenburg, 8812 - 200th S. W., stated that five years ago the City widened the road,
and it took six months to get the gravel out of the yard. West of Maplewood there are very few
children, and he did not feel sidewalks were necessary. Instead he felt what was needed was a
four-way stop at 88th and 200th.
Councilmember Jaech asked when the paln was to be submitted, and Mr. Adams replied July 1.
Councilmember Kasper requested in the future that the staff put a priority listing on the side
to show where it was in the.prior year.
Councilmember Jaech objected to the fact that people were not notified of these proposed street
improvements, and felt notices should be sent to get input from the public. Mr. Adams stated
that there simply was not enough staff to do that.
COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO CONTINUE THE COUNCIL HEARING ON
THIS, TO JULY 2, AND REQUESTING MORE STAFF INPUT AT THAT TIME.
Discussion followed, and Councilmember Nordquist asked if item justification was being
requested. Councilmember Jaech felt the public should be made aware of what items were being
proposed. Councilmember Hail felt the public has another chance to deal with this at budget
time, and staff should put notices on poles, etc. Councilmember Hall stated that there was an
open meeting with the Community Services Deparstment and there was not one comment on it, and
felt that the Six -Year Transportation Plan was needed. Councilmember Wilson felt this could go
on indefinitely,.and that the Council should rely more on the expertise of the staff.
Mayor Pro Tem Nordquist requested a roll call vote: COUNCILMEMBERS NORDQUIST, HALL, WILSON
VOTED NO, WITH COUNCILMEMBERS DWYER, KASPER, JAECH AND OSTROM VOTING YES. MOTION CARRIED, 14ITH
FOUR YES VOTES AND THREE NO VOTES.
HEARING ON HEARING EXAMINER'S RECOMMENDATION TO VACATE A PORTION OF THE UNBUILT RIGHT-OF-WAY OF
NORTH MEADOWDALE RD. IN VICINITY OF 164TH;.S.w.,(ST-4-85)
Assistant Planner Bowman gave the staff presentation, using the overhead projector.
Councilmember Dwyer asked if there was any opposition, and was told there was none.
Mayor Pro Tem Nordquist opened up the public hearing -portion to the audience. There were no
comments, and Mr. De -en Lang, representing Mr. Perrigoue, was present.
At 10:01, COUNCILMEMBER .KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO EXTEND THE MEETING.
MOTION CARRIED.
COUNCILMEMBER DWYER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILSON, TO ADOPT THE HEARING EXAMINER'S
RECOMMENDATIONS PERTAINING TO ST-4-85, AND INSTRUCT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO COMPLETE THE NECESSARY
ORDINANCE TO COMPLETE THIS STREET VACATION. MOTION CARRIED.
DISCUSSION OF APPLICATION FOR DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES GRANT FOR BRACKETT'S LANDING
Parks S Recreation Director Simpson gave the staff recommendation, showing transparencies, and
explaining the selection of the Lee Johnson firm as having innovative ideas. fie explained the
need for monies to expand this project, which will need $320,000-$380,000 to complete. The
first grant is from the Department of Natural Resources ($56,000), and the Department of
Transportation,is willing to help with $25,000.
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This is preliminary discussion, and no more money can be .spent on this until the complete
financial plan is put together. Councilmember Wilson asked if this was a realistic approach,
to which Mr. Simpson replied that the DOT is very interested in seeing the ferry dock expanded,
and Mr. Hahn has spoken with Duane Barrentson, who was very interested.
Councilmember Kasper could not see where any.beach was being gained, and Mr. Simpson replied
that it would give some more beach on the north side.
Councilmember Jaech inquired about whether we, in turn, had to give the DOT part of our beach,
and was told that this is only a proposal at this time to apply for funding, and that the City
cannot give up property unless the property is of .equal value and equal utility, because the
land was bought with IAC funds. Mr. Hahn stated that that is not a negotiation, it is
mandatory. Mr. Snyder interjected that.the Council would have to approve any relinquishment of
any property.
COUNCILMAN DWYER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WILSON, TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 622.
Mr. Jack Serwald was in the audience, and stated he was a teacher at Shoreline College, and
stated that with regard to any development of Brackett's Landing, that from what he has seen it
would be very worthwhile. He also stated that 3,000 students from Mountlake Terrace, Edmonds,
etc., -have studied in this area. The plans looked excellent, and actually will give more beach
area. He noted that by extending the jetty out into the position it is proposed to be in,
there will be two "pocket" beaches derived, making thisa more interesting area for people to
look at.
A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN, WITH ALL MEMBERS VOTING YES. MOTION CARRIED.
REQUEST FOR OVERTIME FUNDS FOR SUNSET AVE. PATROL.($7,500)
Councilmember Jaech asked Mr. Housler if this comes out of the $80,000 allocated, and he
..replied that it did.
Assistant Police Chief Hickok stated that the overtime budget for this year is already running
81% as of the end of May, leaving $19,000. The $7,,500 would help pay for manpower on Sunset on
especially the hot days, and there is no money in the fund for the rest of the summer.
Councilmember Wilson asked how the department is running for the rest of the areas, and Chief
Hickok replied that, the investigative is 71%, court is also running over. Councilmember Hall
stated that the figure is up from 1984 to 1985 by $2,250, and apparently the $3,000 is not
taking care of the Sunset Avenue situation. She stated the committee is dealing with that at
this time, and while dealing with the problem, another patrol person will need to be looked
into.
Councilmember Wilson asked if the recommendations were followed through, would it lessen the
need, and was told "No", since, the residents keep complaining and the department is mandated to
put a man down there, which costs considerably.
COUNCILMEMBER OST.ROM MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER_ WILSON, TO APPROVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN
AMOUNT OF $7,500, WITH THE FUNDS TO COME FROM THE PEOPLE ACQUISITION POOL OF THE COUNCIL
CONTINGENCY FUND. .MOTION CARRIED.
DISCUSSION ON COUNCIL SALARIES
City Attorney Snyder stated the reasons this has been brought before the Council, whereby the
level of salaries was set at $250; thereafter it states in the statute that you cannot raise
your own salaries. Therefore the ordinances have always addressed the next group.
COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM. TO INSTRUCT THE CITY ATTORNEY
TO DRAW UP AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE THESALARIES OF THE OFFICIALS EI.FCTED IN THE FALL OF 1985 TO
___BE THE SAME, AT $200, PLUS $45 FOR EACH MEETING ATTENDED. MOTION CARRIED.
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Councilmember Nordquist stated that the Mayor is doing very well during his recuperation
period.
Councilmember Nordquist stated that there has been no letter from the Transit company, and with
regard to Sunset Avenue, June 19, 1985 is the date that will start. (Referring to parking
reconfiguration.)
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Councilmember Nordquist stated he would leave for AWC, and Peter Hahn will be in charge during
his absence.
At 10:34 p.m., COUNCILMEMBER WILSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, TO EXTEND THE
MEETING. MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Wilson said he had a memorandum from Superintendent Reasby to split the $280.00 for the
dance. COUNCILMEMBER WILSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO APPROVE $140.00 FOR THE
EDMONDS' PORTION OF THE COSTS. Councilmember Jaech asked if they made money on this, why
Edmonds must pay, and was told that since the Mayor agreed to split the cost, we need to do so.
MOTION CARRIED. (Referring to recent inter -high school dance.)
Councilmember Wilson thanked the Police Department and the volunteers for the running event,
whereby approximately 900 runners participated, and it went smoothly. He further welcomed
Tom Cole, and invited him to share his thoughts with the Council.
Councilmember Kasper wished to comment on 1) The Edmonds School District on the EIS list (why
are they closing the schools); and 2) what can be done with the Chambers Cable TV situation.
Perhaps the Council should invite one of their officials to attend a meeting to talk with them.
Councilmember Hall commented on the success of the Arts Festival, especially mentioning the
fingerprinting of the children by the Police Department. She thought the "Run for the Arts",
was well done, and thanked the staff for their patience and hard work in keeping up with
everything.
Councilmember Hall especially wished to note that the hatchery was dedicated on Saturday, and
passed out information on the Spring Salmon Derby to be held on June 22nd, with the proceeds to
go to the Deer Creek Hatchery. She especially wanted to note that no government funding has .
gone into this project, and people have worked very hard.
AMENDMENT TO THE STATE STATUTORY DWI PROVISIONS
City Attorney Snyder wished to call to the Council's attention the memorandum of June 13, 1985
regarding this matter, since in ordinance should be drafted to place this on the Council's
Consent Agenda.
COUNCILMEMBER HALL MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DWYER, TO INSTRUCT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
DRAFT AN ORDINANCE WHICH WOULD BRING THE EDMONDS PENALTY PROVISIONS INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE
STATE'S PENALTY PROVISIONS. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilmember Ostrom had no comments for the Council.
Councilmember Jaech asked Mr. Hahn with regard to SR-104, to go down Fifth Avenue and check on
the lane markings to the ferry, as they are confusing. The staff will look into this.
Councilmember Jaech wished to comment on the fact that the ADB goes through hearings and
reviews the landscaping plans of develo.pers, but if there is no sprinkler system, everything
required is for nothing. City Attorney Snyder stated that precise standards are being looked
into by the ADB.
Councilmember Jaech asked why at the intersection of 212th Si W. and 76th Avenue West, that
when you ,are in the lefthand lane to go west, that for two lanes there are three signal
lights.
Councilmember Dwyer spoke with regard to the negotations consultant, wishing to state that he
would like to see them go ahead and get a person and not be deadlocked.
The matter of the negotiations consultant will be on the July 2nd agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further, business to come before the Edmonds City Council, the meeting adjourned.
at 10:48 p.m.
�/JACQCELINE G. PA RETT, City Clerk
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