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EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING
MARCH 10, 1986
A special meeting, on Monday, of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by
Mayor Larry Naughten in the Plaza Meeting Room of the Edmonds Library. All present joined in the
flag salute.
PRESENT
ABSENT
STAFF PRESENT
Larry Naughten, Mayor
Steve Dwyer
Mary Lou Block, Planning Div. Mgr.
John Nordquist
Cindy Browne,
Bob Alberts, City Engineer
Laura Hall
Student Rep.
Art Housler, Admin. Svcs. Dir.
Jo -Anne Jaech
Bobby Mills, Pub. Wks. Supt.
Bill Kasper
Peter Hahn, Comm. Svcs. Dir.
Lloyd Ostrom
Jerry Hauth, Hydraulics Engineer
Jack Wilson
Robin Hickok, Asst. Police Chief
Pat LeMay, Personnel Director
Brian McIntosh, Recr. Coordinator
Jack Weinz, Fire Chief
Scott Snyder, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, City Clerk
Margaret Richards, Recorder
The Council adjourned to Executive Session at 7:02 p.m. for the purpose of discussing a labor
negotiation and personnel matter and reconvened at 8:10 p.m.
CONSENT AGENDA
Items (B), (C), and (F) were removed from the Consent Agenda. COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM MOVED, SECOND-
ED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The
approved items on the Consent Agenda include the following:
(A) ROLL CALL
(D) APPROVAL OF CONTRACT FEE SCHEDULE ADJUSTMENT FOR HARRY WHITCUTT (PLAN CHECK SERVICES)
(E) ADOPTION OF COUNCIL FINDINGS AND CONFIRMATION OF DECISION IN MATTER OF APPEAL OF
ROLANDSCOTT AND BERNARD ANDERSON (V-29-85)
(G) ACCEPTANCE OF QUIT CLAIM DEED FROM ALDERWOOD REALTY CORPORATION FOR STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MARCH 4, 1986 [ITEM (B) ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]
Councilmember Hall noted that Councilmember Ostrom had raised points of order twice during the
March 4, 1986 meeting and had followed up with a memo dated March 5, 1986 regarding meeting poli-
cies, and that Mayor Naughten had responded with a memo dated March 7, 1986 on the subject of
meeting procedures. She noted a correction on page 3 under "Audience", a correction to the word
"Main"; page 4 Sherlel is spelled S-C-H-A-E-R-T-L, and Hildrith is spelled H-I-L-D-R-E-T-
H. Mayor Naughten noted a correction on page 9 at the bottom of the page as follows: COUNCIL -
MEMBER HALL MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO ADOPT THE PLANNING BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION
TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE POLICY PLAN MAP CHANGING LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDEN-
TIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR AREA LOCATED ALONG 238TH ST. S.W. BETWEEN HIGHWAY 99 AND
SR 104 (ELEANOR SMITH/CDC-4-85); page 12, third paragraph, third line: "She recommended that
formal parking be eliminated .. Councilmember Kasper noted a correction on page 10, third
line as follows: "Councilmember Kasper said the area is so impacted by super adequate roads and
services ..."; page 11, first sentence, the word "conditional" should read "additional". Council -
member Jaech noted a correction on page 4, last paragraph, as follows: "Councilmember Jaech said
the Community Transit Board members questioned or expressed concern as to utilizing Community
Transit funds to purchase a trolley to be used strictly within the City limits of Edmonds and not
in other jurisdictions". "She said she would not vote in favor of committing taxpayer's dollars
."; page 7, third paragraph: "She said the development is contrary to the Comprehensive Plan
which requires two parking spaces for each unit, and the development only has nineteen spaces".
COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED.
MOTION CARRIED.
CORRECTION TO MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 11, 1986 [ITEM (C) ON THE CONSENT AGENDA]
Councilmember Hall referred to City Clerk Jackie Parrett's memo dated February 18, 1986 regarding
a correction to the February 11, 1986 minutes as follows: Item (E) on the Consent Agenda, Author-
ization to Replace 1979 Elgin Sweeper, was listed as one of the approved items, but it was not
approved. As correctly stated at the beginning of the Consent Agenda paragraph, it was removed
and moved to a later date. The item that was omitted from the listing in the minutes, which was
approved, was Item (G), Ordinance 2550 Rezoning the Property at 23105 - 100th Ave. W., from to
RS-8 to BN, and Authorization for Mayor to sign Rezone Contract (LANDAU/R-4-85). COUNCILMEMBER
HALL MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILSON, TO APPROVE THAT AMENDMENT TO THE FEBRUARY 11, 1986
MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED.
UTION 637 AMENDING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP CHANGING LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM LOW
Councilmember Jaech said she pulled this item from the Consent Agenda because: 1) she felt she
could not vote in favor of the resolution, 2) sufficient discussion has not taken place with
Council, and 3) she did not feel it was proper to pass the resolution when a majority of people
were opposed to it. COUNCILMEMBER NOROQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO APPROVE
ITEM "F". Councilmember Ostrom noted that only two out of the seven people that testified were
in favor of the resolution, and the Council received a petition against the proposal with 104
signatures. He said that no debate took place with Council after public input. He inquired
about the rationale of the Council's decision. He said the resolution is a "slap in the face to
people who live in the area as well as the Esperance area", adding it was an absolute disgrace.
A roll call vote was taken. MOTION CARRIED, WITH COUNCILMEMBER JAECH AND COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM
OPPOSED.
PRESENTATION OF PROPOSED PARAMETERS FOR YOUTH SCHOLARSHIP FUND
Brian McIntosh, Recreation Coordinator, gave background information. He said he spoke with the
Youth Activities Board, and they indicated they would like to donate a percentage of the funds
that they raise from dances, etc. He said several cities were surveyed to ascertain the criteria
they use to disburse scholarship funds and class fees. A majority of the cities approved every
application they received. Funding for these programs is donated by public service organiza-
tions, United Way, and Lynnwood J.C.'s. Mr. McIntosh recommended not to follow the path taken by
other cities, but instead to contact professionals in the community to refer those "in need". He
said these professionals would have a much better idea than Staff would who these people are.
Staff would, in turn, contact the professional who forwarded the application to discuss the case
with them and also contact the applicant.
Councilmember Jaech commented that the funds were allocated for the benefit of Edmonds Youth, as
stated in the resolution and in a memo sent by Mr. McIntosh. However, the brochure he submitted
is contradictory to the resolution because it qualifies children and youth who live in South.
Snohomish and the North King County area served by the Edmonds Recreational Department. Mr.
McIntosh concurred and said it could be easily rectified because the brochures have not official-
ly been distributed yet. Councilmember Jaech expressed concern with Alternative I in that it
would require the formation of another Staff department to process the applications, which she
would not recommend. She said she was in favor of Alternative B to include a five -member review
board comprised of citizens, and not Staff. Councilmember Jaech said many activities are season-
al, and she expressed a concern that funds not be totally disbursed within the first four to ,six
months of the year. She recommended that the funds be allocated evenly for each semester to
insure that children were allowed to utilize the program year round. She added that Councilmem-
ber Nordquist made the recommendation to contact school principals as a source of reference.
COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED DRAINAGE BASIN ANALYSIS JOINT VENTURE WITH SNOHOMISH COUNTY
Councilmember Ostrom inquired if this proposal is in addition to the Shell Creek Basin Study, as
discussed on February 11, 1986. Community Services Director Peter Hahn said it is the same study
but is not all encompassing. City Engineer Bob Alberts gave background information.
Councilmember Jaech asked Mr. Alberts if Chase Lake was a major concern to the County. Mr. Al-
berts replied affirmatively. Mr. Hahn added that it was also a major concern to the City. Coun-
cilmember Jaech commented that the majority of the problem is within the County area which then
drains into other areas. Mr. Hahn concurred. Councilmember Jaech inquired if the population
count was a fair method in arriving at the cost percentages. Mr. Alberts said based on a geo-
graphic determination, it was a fair method. Mr. -Hahn said because it is a fairly homogenous
breakdown --mostly single-family homes --it was fair. Mr. Alberts said although the drainage is
within the County's jurisdiction, the City felt a responsibility because of its upstream location.
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Councilmember Nordquist asked why the proposal is limited to Lake Ballinger. Mr. Alberts said
because the County has a specific project in mind that they want to follow up on after this
study, the City is working within those boundaries with the interlocal agreement. Councilmember
Nordquist asked for further clarification. Mr. Alberts said the County has capital improvements
they want to build to try to rectify the storm drainage problem. The drainage study encompasses
the western portion of the basin, which Lake Ballinger is part of. Councilmember Jaech inquired
if all the tributaries, including Halls Lake, are also being taken into consideration. Mr. Hahn
said although a study needed to be conducted of all the tributaries, the elements have been bro-
ken down at this time that are workable and scientific. Councilmember Nordquist noted that a
major drainage study was previously conducted in other cities. He queried if the proposal is
repetitious. Mr. Hahn said those studies he referred to are of other geographic areas, but the
study of the City's own culvert system and storm water system has not yet been conducted. Coun-
cilmember Nordquist referred to the Highway 99 study. Mr. Hahn said that study was a general
study that was not detailed to topographic projections, mapping elevations, etc.
Mr. Alberts reviewed the proposed interlocal agreement for Shell Creek Basin and Lake Ballin-
ger/Chase Lake Subbasin Basin Study on the overhead projector. He said in discussing the project
with different consultants, it was determined that some degree of new mapping would be required
in the study.
Councilmember Ostrom inquired about the twenty-five year street frequency under "Modeling". Mr.
Alberts said that was a typographical error and should read "Twenty-five Year Storm Frequency".
Councilmember Ostrom inquired about the computer model of the basin. Mr. Alberts said the intent
of a computer model package would be to utilize the information not only for the proposed study
but for future drainage studies as well. Councilmember Ostrom inquired if any problems would be
encountered if the $20,000 was taken out of the Water/Sewer Drainage Fund. Administrative Servic-
es Director Art Housler replied negatively. He recommended that $20,000 be transferred from the
Water/Sewer Operating Fund into the Water Sewer/Construction Fund. COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED DRAINAGE BASIN ANALYSIS JOINT VENTURE WITH
SNOHOMISH COUNTY AND TRANSFER THE $20,000 FROM THE WATER/SEWER OPERATING FUND TO THE WATER/SEWER
CONSTRUCTION FUND. Councilmember Kasper stated that the City of Edmonds has a great need for
aerial maps, and spending the additional $20,000 to map the rest of the City would save the City
money. Councilmember Jaech inquired if water quality results would be part of the study. Mr.
Alberts said a consultant would make general observations but would not conduct lab tests per
se. Councilmember Jaech inquired if pollution problems would be addressed. Mr. Alberts replied
affirmatively. Mr. Hahn added that the proposal does not include the previous proposals heard by
the Council regarding water quality, which will be submitted separately to the Department of
Ecology for a water quality grant. MOTION CARRIED.
FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF CLASSIFICATION STUDY (FROM FEBRUARY 11)
The meeting recessed at 9:00 p.m. and reconvened at 9:05 P.M.
Councilmember Kasper stated that he reque
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arding management jobs, salary grids, and different job
•essed concern that outside data was relied upon, in
cause many positions were out of alignment. She asked
flignment and inquired about the rationale used. Mayor
in the factor system and assigned points, and certain
ictor system was confusing and too subjective, a consul -
The consultant, Larry Daniels, recommended that the
which Staff agreed was more objective. All jobs were
obs fell out of alignment. As a result, these fourteen
erify the validity of the system, and it was determined
member Hall inquired how the determination was arrived
tem recommendation regarding, at least, the Executive
is position. Mayor Naughten said when those positions
determined that they did not need reclassification.
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to reclassify them, based on this data, they would have been reclassified. Councilmember Hall
asked how Staff could justify a downgrade for the Personnel Manager when it was recommended, and
fell out, two be upgraded to grades. Mayor Naughten said the job was aligned, based on outside
criteria. Councilmember Hall referred to the Classification Study Criteria 1-C which states "
use only internal comparisons". Mayor Naughten said only the fourteen jobs that fell out were
compared with outside criteria to determine whether or not it was justifiable. Councilmember
Hall inquired about the Executive Secretary's position. Fire Chief Jack Weinz said he thought
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the system recommended a downgrade. Mr. Housler said Mr. Daniels suggested that the Personnel
Manager's position be upgraded. Mr. Housler said two years ago this position was downgraded when
labor negotiations were removed from it, which caused the Council to request that the job classi-
fications be analyzed. As a result, other cities were surveyed. Councilmember Hall said she
disagreed with this recommendation, and this position should be classified as it originally was.
Councilmember Wilson inquired if the Personnel Manager is heavily involved with labor negotia-
tions. Mr. Housler said any personnel manager.in any city is involved with labor negotiations.
However, other cities pay a higher salary for that position. Councilmember Wilson.commented that
when this position was downgraded previously, the salary was also reduced. Now these other posi-
tions are being downgraded, but the salaries are red circled. Mayor Naughten said he did not
feel the job should be downgraded and not red circled. Councilmember Kasper expressed concern
that the jobs that fell out of alignment were compared with external data, but the jobs that did
not fall out of alignment were not; that if they had, they would have been upgraded. He said
there was no movement in the Police and Fire Departments and felt they should be analyzed
closer. Chief Weinz stated that the same criteria were used on every classification in the
City. Councilmember Hall inquired if those positions were analyzed subjectively, though. Chief
Weinz said there may have been some subjectivity with the original criteria; that is why the
Donworth & Taylor system was implemented. Councilmember Hall inquired if there was a recommenda-
tion that the Data Processing Programmer remain nonexempt, and if so, why. Mr..Housler said the
position has very little managerial responsibilities and is more of a technical nature. He said
under State criteria, this position would have a strong case for it to remain nonexempt. Council -
member Kasper noted that 60% of the general fund was allocated to salaries, but the realignment
change increased that figure to 64%. He said part of the problem may be that there are not
enough grades. He suggested that 19 positions instead of 10 be considered in order to measure
jobs within the same general category. He also suggested that a Public Safety Director be imple-
mented into the classification for future consideration. Councilmember Wilson inquired if Coun-
cilmember Kasper was stating that the classifications are compressed too narrowly with no room
for movement. Councilmember Kasper said he felt the grades are too limited at 10, and do not
allow enough range for a particular job. Councilmember Ostrom noted that accuracy is difficult
with the classification already in existence. He suggested if the system is adopted, it should
be adhered to. Councilmember Hall said classifying the Community Service Director's position as
it has been has created a lot of problems, as well as dissension and anxiety amongst Staff. She
recommended classifying this position as an E-11 or E-12. Mayor Naughten recommended that the
Council reach a decision regarding the study tonight. Councilmember Kasper asked how much it
would cost for Donworth & Taylor to analyze the study. Mr. Housler said the cost could be esti-
mated from $12,000 to $15,000 to conduct a desk or job audit. Mayor Naughten noted that the
Council would be faced with additional information which would be politically argued over, simi-
lar to what is transpiring at the present time. Councilmember Ostrom recommended to accept the
classifications that the system recommended. COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL -
MEMBER JAECH, TO ACCEPT THE STUDY AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS STATED IN THE MEMO OF MARCH 7, 1986,
OPTION N1. Councilmember Jaech said she did not feel an additional study would offer any benefi-
cial information and would leave the Council in a position similar to hat they are faced with at
the present time. She expressed concern over a time delay. Councilmember Ostrom clarified the
motion. Councilmember Kasper added TO INCLUDE RED LINING. Councilmember Jaech agreed. A ROLL
CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN, WITH COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST, AND COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM
IN FAVOR, AND COUNCILMEMBER HALL, COUNCILMEMBER KASPER AND COUNCILMEMBER WILSON OPPOSED RESULTING
IN A TIE.. City Attorney Scott Snyder read from the State statute, and indicated the Mayor was
authorized to vote but reminded the Council that the actual adjustments to the salary ordinance
has to come back before the Council for passage on its next Consent Agenda. MAYOR NAUGHTEN VOTED
IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED. COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER
HALL, THAT ANYONE WHO HAS NOT BEEN RED LINED IN THEIR JOB CLASSIFICATION DOWNWARD SINCE THE
CITY'S REORGANIZATION BE RETROACTIVELY REIMBURSED FOR NON -RED LINING. Councilmember Hall asked
how many positions would be reimbursed. Mr. Snyder said the City would encounter a constitution-
al problem extending the reimbursement back beyond January 1, 1986. Councilmember Kasper said
his rationale behind the motion was that the Personnel Manager's position was unjustly reduced.
He said it was recommended to Council to classify that position as an NE-9 and not NE-5. Council -
member Nordquist inquired if that position was downgraded because negotiations were not conducted
by the Manager any longer and as a reprimand. Councilmember Jaech noted this discussion was
encompassing an area of personalities and should not be discussed in open Council meetings, but
in Executive sessions. Councilmember Wilson stated that was "bologna". He said in his. opinion,
that was just and fair. Councilmember Jaech stated that not every Councilmember will agree on an
opinion, but all Councilmembers should give respect to other members when they voice their opin-
ions. She said when Councilmember Wilson voices an opinion which she disagrees with, she is not
belligerent or disrespectful and would appreciate the same courtesy. Councilmember Jaech said
she was trying to show respect to a certain Staff member because she did not want to make him
feel uncomfortable and under public scrutiny. Councilmember Wilson said the issue is the job
classification, and not the Staff member's performance. Councilmember Ostrom said the study
should be conducted either internally or externally, not both. COUNCILMEMBER HALL WITHDREW HER
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SECOND TO THE MOTION; the motion, therefore, failing for lack of a second. Councilmember Kasper
said he would approach this issue with additional information at next week's Council meeting.
MAYOR
Mayor Naughten referred to a memo from Councilmember Ostrom regarding procedural changes to Coun-
cil meetings concerning audience input. Councilmember Ostrom said he did not feel the number of
speakers should be limited, and speakers should be allowed input under the audience portion re-
garding items not on the agenda as a hearing. Councilmember Jaech recommended if the Council has
all of the public input on an issue and is ready to enter into the decision -making process, the
item be placed on the work meeting agenda; if new ideas are presented to the Council, audience
input should be allowed or extended to another meeting. Councilmember Ostrom noted it would be
legal if the number of people to speak were limited if it was not a hearing. Councilmember Kas-
per referred to a meeting when public input was elicited, and the information put forth was incor-
rect, and the Council was unaware of this. He said Staff and Council members do not have a
chance to research new information if it is acted on the same night.
Mayor Naughten adjourned the meeting at 10 p.m. COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL -
MEMBER HALL TO EXTEND THE MEETING. A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN, WITH COUNCILMEMBER JAECH
OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED,
Continuing the discussion, Mayor Naughten referred to the 7th Avenue item on next week's agenda.
He said people knew it was not a hearing but wished to speak under the audience portion of the
meeting about 7th Avenue. He recommended that the number of people allowed to speak be limited
to four, with a balance of two in favor and two opposed to the issue. Councilmember Wilson in-
quired why audience input would be allowed when no new information was presented. Councilmember
Jaech said there were three new scenarios from Staff not in existence when the public hearing
took place. Councilmember Hall suggested that the words "Council Consideration" be replaced with
more explicit wording on the agenda. Councilmember Ostrom said he felt people should be allowed
to speak on any subject under the audience portion. Councilmember Kasper recommended that the
public be requested to wait to speak during the hearing; if they insist to speak under the audi-
ence portion, then allow them to do so. Councilmember Hall recommended that public input not be
allowed prior to the hearing. Councilmember Jaech stated if a hearing was held and Council was
in the discussion phase, public input would not be allowed because Council would be in the quasi-
judicial process. City Attorney Scott Snyder recommended that he meet with the Council at a work
meeting to discuss hearing procedures and rules. Councilmember Kasper suggested that the word
"public" be inserted on the back of the agenda for meeting procedures under audience participa-
tion, second line, after the word "for". Councilmember Jaech recommended that the quasi-judicial
proceedings by Council, if not conducted on the same night as the hearing, be scheduled for a
work meeting and not a regular meeting if there are no new scenarios presented after the public
hearing. Mayor Naughten inquired if the number of persons allowed to speak under audience partic-
ipation should be limited. Councilmember Ostrom suggested a time limit of three minutes. The
Council concurred.
Mayor Naughten advised the Council about the proposed enhanced 911 system, to be voted on by the
citizens. Councilmember Jaech inquired about 911 service for the Woodway area residents who have
not had it. Fire Chief Jack Weinz said that should be corrected within five weeks.
Mayor Naughten announced that the Fire Fighter's Association is sponsoring a blood drive on March
17 from 3:30 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. in the police conference room.
Mayor Naughten announced there has been almost a 50% return on the recent citizen survey.
The Mayor said he, along with others, attended Walt Disney's Ice Show which featured Rosalind
Sumners Show on February 27, and it was a delight. Councilmember Hall said the Mayor presented
Ms. Sumners with roses and a kiss.
COUNCIL
Councilmember Kasper noted that the ferry light situation has worsened.
Councilmember Kasper said the Community Transit Board of Directors has passed the trolley resolu-
tion. However, he said, Mayor Naughten has not allocated any funding for the program but will
provide other assistance to the program.
Council President Hall said the Mountlake Terrace City Council has offered to meet with the
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Edmonds City Council on March 31, 1986 in the Plaza Room of the Edmonds Library to discuss drain-
age, water quality, and the shooting of water fowl on Lake Ballinger. The Council concurred.
Councilmember Wilson inquired about the cost of the enhanced 911 equipment. Chief Weinz said it
would cost in the millions of dollars and 50 cents a month per home.
Councilmember Ostrom referred to a letter fie received from Mr. Nigel regarding the traffic situa-
tion on 9th Avenue North and Walnut. Councilmember Hall said the Council assistant is research-
ing the matter.
Councilmember Ostrom then referred to an anonymous letter regarding neighborhood eyesores. Mayor
Naughten said the matter is being researched.
Councilmember Ostrom expressed concern that the citizen survey was not conducted properly. He
asked: 1) how the survey was conducted; 2) what "random selection" means; 3) who compiled the
survey; 4) what kind of controls are there for surveys. Mayor Naughten said the college did not
intend to pick the names of people to be surveyed. The names were random sampled from the utili-
ty billing and segregated into six zones, with a recommendation from the college of the percent-
age of people needed in each zone to qualify as a random sampling. The college randomly select-
ed, out of the six zones, a mailing list of the households. The sealed envelopes that were re-
turned to the City were delivered to the college, color coded by zone. Councilmember Ostrom
expressed concern that the surveys were mailed to the City because, he said, it compromises the
validity. Mayor Naughten disagreed because he said the college suggested that the survey be
conducted that way. Councilmember Ostrom asked how the random selection was conducted. Adminis-
trative Services Director Art Housler said the random selection was based on a percentage sup-
plied by the college for each geographic area. Councilmember Hall inquired if all the questions
for each zone were identical. Mayor Naughten replied affirmatively. He said the citizen survey
is the same survey that the United States. Census Bureau sets up for the City of Edmonds. Council -
member Hall asked why a business person was filling out the survey in front of City Hall on March
3 when the deadline was February 21. Mayor Haughten said he did not know. Councilmember Hall .
expressed concern regarding the validity of the survey.
The meeting adjourned at 10:25 p.m.
AC UELINE G. PARRETT, City Clerk LARRY S. NAUGHTEN, iayor
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