02/10/1998 City CouncilEDMONDS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED MINUTES
FEBRUARY 10, 1998
The Special Edmonds City Council meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Barbara Fahey in
the Library Plaza Room, 650 Main Street, followed by the flag salute.
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Barbara Fahey, Mayor
Gary Haakenson, Council President
Dave Earling, Councilmember
John Nordquist, Councilmember
Michael Plunkett, Councilmember
Jim White, Councilmember
Dick Van Hollebeke, Councilmember
ABSENT
Thomas A. Miller, Councilmember
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
STAFF PRESENT
Michael Springer, Fire Chief
Kevin Taylor, Assistant Fire Chief
Arvilla Ohlde, Parks and Recreation Director
Jeff Wilson, Planning Supervisor
Rob Chave, Planning Manager
Brent Hunter, Human Resources Director
Dee McGrath, Executive Assistant
Sandy Chase, City Clerk
Jeannie Dines, Recorder
Mayor Fahey explained the Council meeting on the second Tuesday of the month is usually Council
committee meetings. The Council made a decision to meet prior to committee meetings to recognize
board and commission members with a reception following and to continue discussion and to vote on the
Cultural Arts, Stadium and Convention District (CASCD) proposal.
COUNCILMEMBER VAN HOLLEBEKE MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER
NORDQUIST, FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED. MOTION CARRIED.
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COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAAKENSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER VAN
HOLLEBEKE, FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. The agenda items approved are
as follows:
(A) ROLL CALL
Approve
Minutes (B) APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 3, 1998
Mileage (C) APPROVAL OF MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT RATE INCREASE IN ACCORDANCE
jr,eimourse- I WITH IRS REGULATIONS AND CITY RESOLUTION NO. 583
ent Rate
Recognition 3. RECOGNITION OF BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS
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ommission Council President Haakenson expressed a special thanks to the board and commission members for their
Members
volunteerism during the past year.
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Mayor Fahey said it was a pleasure to have an opportunity to recognize citizens serving on boards and
commissions, particularly to honor those who are retiring. She expressed her appreciation for the time
and effort they devote. She explained the selection of new members includes a public announcement of
board/commission vacancies, requesting submittal of applications. The current board/commission
members evaluate the applications and select citizens they feel would be valuable to the
board/commission. She said this process has worked well and has given many people an opportunity to
serve. She has been impressed with the quality of applicants and the knowledge and experience
members bring to the boards and commissions.
DB Architectural Design Board
Mayor Fahey advised Senior Planner John Bissell is the staff liaison to the ADB. She recognized current
board members James Chalupnik, Linda Goodrick, Carreen Nordling Rubenkonig, Jeff Oaklief, Craig
Pierce, and Steve Sullivan. She announced one vacant position on the ADB is currently being advertised
and encouraged interested citizens to contact the Mayor's office. Mayor Fahey presented a plaque to
retiring Boardmember Jim Young. Councilmembers congratulated current and retiring Architectural
Design Board members. _
Arts Commission
Commission I Mayor Fahey described the Arts Commission's role in selecting art for the new City Hall and the new
Public Safety Complex. She recognized current Commissioners Edwina Baxter, Leigh -Ann Hafford,
Peter Hodges, Darlene McLellan, and Cami Smith. Mayor Fahey presented plaques to retiring Arts
Commissioners John Hustad, Howard Rosenthal, Carolyn Stark, and Angella Tapogna. Councilmembers
congratulated current and retiring Arts Commissioners. Mayor Fahey advised the application process for
the two vacant positions on the Arts Commission has been closed and the process of making a selection
has begun.
Cemetery Cemetery, Board
oard
Mayor Fahey noted the quality of the cemetery directly reflects the efforts of the board members. She
noted there is currently one vacant alternate position on the Cemetery Board. Mayor Fahey recognized
current Cemetery board members Dale Hoggins, Marvene McGinness, Greg Sarvis, Ruth Sater, Esther
Sellers, Bobbie Sherman, Rosemary Specht, and Dorothy Williamson. She presented a plaque to retiring
Cemetery Boardmember Glen Grace who has served on the Board since it was established in 1982.
Mayor Fahey noted Parks and Recreation Director Arvilla Ohlde is the staff liaison to the Cemetery
Board. Councilmembers congratulated current and retiring board members.
Civil Civil Service Commission
Service Mayor Fahey recognized current Commissioners Chuck Cain, Brian Comstock, and Carol Piddduck. She
ommission noted Human Resources Director Brent Hunter and Human Resource Analyst Georgia LaBelle are the
staff liaison to the Civil Service Commission. Councilmembers congratulated the Civil Service
Commissioners.
isability Disabili , Board
oard Mayor Fahey recognized the current Disability Boardmembers Mike Deming, MD; Ken Jones, PD;
Councilmember Tom Miller; Councilmember Dick Van Hollebeke; and Tim Whitman and thanked them
for their service. She noted Human Resource Analyst Georgia LaBelle is the staff liaison to the
Disability Board.
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burry Library Board
and Mayor Fahey said Parks and Recreation Director Arvilla Ohlde is the staff liaison to the Library Board.
She recognized the current Library Board members Mary Fisher, Robert Freeman, Beverly Kaufinan, and
Peggy Olson. She advised the Board is currently in the interview process to fill the two vacant positions.
She presented a plaque to retiring Library Board member Marion Wilkerson. She also presented a
plaque to Fred Gautschi's wife, Jean, in honor of Mr. Gautschi who passed away recently. Mayor Fahey
acknowledged Mr. Gautschi's tireless efforts on the Library Board. She expressed her appreciation for
what he did for the community and said he will truly be missed. Councilmembers recognized current
and retiring Library Board members.
fanning Planning Board
Board Mayor Fahey advised Planning Supervisor Jeff Wilson is the staff liaison to the Planning Board. She
recognized current Planning Board members Don Bakken, Steven Cobb, John Dewhirst, Gary Grayson,
and Bruce Whitenberg and expressed the Council's appreciation for the enormous time commitment
board members make. She said the Planning Board reviews various issues and makes recommendations
to the Council. She presented plaques to retiring board members Lynn Lacy, Marlo Derosia, Jim
Pidduck, Rob Morrison, Melody Tereski, and Louise Hopkins. The Board is currently interviewing
candidates to fill three vacant positions. Councilmembers congratulated current and retiring Planning
Board members.
sister city Sister City Commission
ommission Mayor Fahey described the efforts of the Sister City Commission, including the City's Hekinan Week
celebration which gives youth and adults the opportunity to enjoy aspects of Japanese culture. She
recognized current Commissioners Kenneth Chang, Lawrence Cretin, Albert Huff, Dr. Ellen Kahan,
Valerie Cole Kelley, Iyoko Okano, JoLynn Summy, and Tanya Yioshida -Rude. She said the
Commission is in the process of interviewing candidates for the three vacant positions on the
Commission. She noted the staff liaison to the Sister City Commission is Parks and Recreation Director
Arvilla Ohlde. She presented plaques to retiring Commissioners Janice McKee, Susan Luong, Hellon
Wilkerson, and Richard Tarbuck. Councilmembers congratulated current and retiring Planning Board
members.
Mayor Fahey said Hekinan will be celebrating its 50th anniversary this year. She encouraged citizens to
join a delegation, being organized by the Sister'Cities Commission, who will travel to Hekinan July 16 -
23 to join in the celebration. Councilmembers congratulated current and retiring Sister Cities
Commissioners.
Mayor Fahey declared a recess for the purpose of a reception to honor the Board and Commission
members. Mayor Fahey reconvened the meeting at 7:50 p.m.
PrAos slal 4. CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON THE CULTURAL ARTS, STADIUM AND
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CONVENTION DISTRICT (CASCD) PROPOSAL
Councilmember White explained several years ago, the Legislature authorized the county to create an
ordinance to form the Cultural Arts, Stadium and Convention District (CASCD). The CASCD's
boundaries are equivalent to the geography of the Edmonds School District and include Snohomish
County, Brier, Woodway, Mountlake Terrace, Edmonds, Lynnwood, and a small portion of Mill Creek.
The CASCD's governing body consists of representatives from the Edmonds School District, Edmonds
Community College, the cities involved, and Snohomish County. Councilmember White said he has
served on the governing board as the liaison for the City of Edmonds for the past two years; Mayor
Fahey served on the board while an Edmonds Councilmember. He said the board first set out to
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determine what should be created and determined a comprehensive performing arts center to serve the
needs of the community and a convention center of significant proportions to draw from throughout the
state as well as outside the state was needed. A study was then commissioned including surveys which
indicated a high percentage of residents favored the creation of a convention and performing arts facility.
The study considered various facility configurations and determined a convention and performing arts
center was the most viable and desirable. A study on the financial feasibility of such a facility was then
commissioned to determine whether it could be afforded, how it would be funded, who would cover
maintenance and operation expenditures, and how any profits would be split. The firm Property
Counselors prepared the feasibility study and presented it to CASCD approximately one year ago. The
feasibility study indicated such a facility was feasible and provided numbers and what should be done to
accomplish it. Since that time, the CASCD Board has met with various cities and negotiated acquisition
of property as well as interlocal agreements between the CASCD Board and Snohomish County. The
most desirable site for the facility has been "locked up" and the interlocal signed. Negotiations have also
taken place regarding interlocal agreements between Snohomish County, CASCD, and the cities
including frequent discussions in the recent past.
Greg Easton, Property Counselors, described the feasibility study prepared for the South Snohomish
County Convention/Performing Arts Facility. He explained he led a consulting team consisting of
Property Counselors, regional property advisors and financial consultants, and an architectural firm with
extensive experience in convention and performing arts facilities. This team conducted a comprehensive
analysis of potential demand and utilization of such a facility, the appropriate physical components,
anticipated financial performance, and a random sample household survey to determine public support
for the facility. He noted the study was completed in February 1997 and, although considerable work has
been done during the past year, the basic concept and financial approach remain the same.
Mr. Easton explained a range of potential performing arts activities and types of meetings that could
occur in the facility were considered and a general facility concept was developed. He displayed a
drawing of the components of the facility concept and described the 850 -900 seat performing arts facility
with full technical capabilities for a range of performing arts such as symphony, dance, drama, etc. This
would be constructed with a main floor with 500 seats and balcony levels to meet the needs of smaller
groups as well as larger groups. He described the dedicated meeting facilities, a 12,000 square foot main
hall which is approximately twice the size of any convention space in private hotels within South
Snohomish County. He pointed out smaller break -out meeting spaces to supplement the main hall, lobby
spaces which provide an opportunity to display art and other public functions, and the support facilities
for food services, administrative offices, and storage. He explained the facility could accommodate a
variety of needs such as conventions with 800 delegates, smaller conventions with 500 delegates and
5,000 square feet of exhibit space, banquets for up to 800 people, a variety of smaller community groups,
and larger community events.
Mr. Easton described the facility's ability to meet a variety of performance needs including small
performances in the break -out space, Community College drama, small (400 -500), intermediate (800-
900) and large (1,000 - 1,200) theater performances. He summarized the concept of the facility was
intended to meet needs for local groups for performance space and meetings as well as to capture some
economic activity -- to create new business within South Snohomish County.
He displayed the anticipated economic impact of such a facility, noting a convention center generates
economic impact by attracting visitors to the area. Convention attendees stay 2 -3 days, staying in hotels,
eating at restaurants, and shopping at local stores, generating new dollars for the community. He
estimated the direct economic impact was approximately $9 million per year. He explained the
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incremental tax revenues for local government was estimated at $176,000 per year. The preferred site
for the facility in Lynnwood is the site that has been considered for acquisition. He said the City of
Lynnwood would capture 90% of the economic impact but there would be economic impact for other
cities as well. Because it was recognized that the economic impact would be primarily generated in
Lynnwood, a financing program was developed that called for the reinvestment of the economic impact
back into the facility -- an important component of financing the facility. He explained the funding for
the facility includes capital as well as ongoing operations. The capital cost, estimated in a broad range
because a range of potential sites was being considered, ranges from $32 million for a low cost site
(outside the major urban areas with parking on site and low overall development costs) and $48 million
for a site in the high range. He said the selected site has the potential to provide on -site parking and
could be developed at less than the high end of the range. Funding components rely, to the largest
extent, on a voter - approved general obligation bond (approximately $40 million of $48 million at the
high end of the range). The balance of capital costs will be funded via grants and contributions,
contributions from benefiting parties, and earnings from bond proceeds. The impact to tax payers would
be $0.24 - $0.36 per $1,000 of assessed valuation resulting in an annual impact of $36 per year on a
property valued at $100,000.
Mr. Easton explained facilities such as this cost more to operate than they generate; therefore, it is
important to identify a reliable source for funding operating costs. An operating shortfall for the facility
is estimated at $664,000 per year (inflated 2008 dollars). The first and largest portion of the shortfall
funding would be the countywide 2% hotel/motel tax; estimates indicate over $400,000 of the deficit
could be funded from this source in 2008. Since the feasibility study was completed, Snohomish County
has agreed to provide those dollars without a limit in the amount of growth each year. The remainder of
the operating deficit would come from incremental tax revenues -- jurisdictions who directly benefit
from the facility will be asked to reinvest in the facility to provide stabilized, long term funding for the
facility.
Mr. Easton reported the results of a survey of over 600 households indicated 64% consider a regional
performing arts and convention center to be "a good idea." Approximately 61% strongly or somewhat
strongly supported a bond issue in the amount described above for this project; 60% of the respondents
within Edmonds strongly or somewhat strongly supported a bond issue. The results of the survey
indicated there was some validity to the concept described in the feasibility. study and ultimately the
bond issue will determine the level of support.
Councilmember White recognized two other CASCD Board members in the audience, Snohomish
County Councilmember Gary Nelson and Meryl Hrdlicka former Mayor of Lynnwood.
Council President Haakenson asked if the bond would require 60% to pass. Mr. Easton answered yes.
Council President Haakenson asked him to describe the economic benefit the City of Edmonds would
receive. Mr. Easton said Lynnwood would experience approximately 92% of the increased spending in
the community and the City of Edmonds would receive approximately 3 - 5% of spending and a smaller
percentage of incremental tax revenues. Due to the small amount of incremental tax revenues, Edmonds
would also pay a smaller amount to support the identified operating deficit.
Mayor Fahey referred to the incremental tax revenue and said the amount shown was the estimated
increase in hotel /motel tax money as a result of new lodging bed nights. As the bulk of those nights
would be in Lynnwood, the bulk would be hotel /motel tax from Lynnwood. She observed the bulk of the
retail sales tax would also be in Lynnwood. She referred to the admissions tax and Mr. Easton explained
the study assumed an admission tax could be imposed on events at the facility.
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Mayor Fahey asked if the feasibility study anticipated the admission tax would assist with funding
maintenance and operation. Mr. Easton answered yes. .
Mayor Fahey pointed out the feasibility study included dollar amounts for economic benefit. She said
the study estimated economic benefit to Edmonds would be approximately $449,196. She asked, based
on assessed valuation of the City of Edmonds, how much citizens would pay in property taxes toward
this project. Mr. Easton answered the assessed valuation of the City of Edmonds was approximately
29% of the total assessed valuation of the CASCD which is approximately $8 million. Council President
Haakenson clarified Edmonds property owners would pay 29.3% of the annual debt service, or
approximately $670,000 to $1 million per year.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAAKENSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER VAN
HOLLEBEKE, THAT FOLLOWING COUNCILMEMBER WHITE'S PRESENTATION
(REGARDING THE REVISED PROPOSAL), PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD BE ACCEPTED.
MOTION CARRIED.
Councilmember White said the latest revision of the proposed interlocal agreement between CASCD and
the three primary cities (Edmonds, Lynnwood, and Mountlake Terrace) was proposed to the City of
Lynnwood by Edmonds and Mountlake Terrace. Representatives from the three cities met yesterday,to
review the interlocal and a new draft, requesting four changes, as presented to the City of Lynnwood. He
described the proposed changes, 1) Amendment of Section 4.1F which eliminates the incremental sales
contribution from Mountlake Terrace and Edmonds as long as they are receiving sales tax equalization.
Councilmember White noted the incremental sales tax dollars would be $6,200 from Edmonds and
$3,400 from Mountlake Terrace and $192,763 from Lynnwood, 2) Amend Section 4.1J, Exhibits A, B,
and C. There are several funding sources for financing the maintenance and operation of the facility
which are drawn in a specific order including an equal draw from each city from the hotel /motel tax.
The amendment would require Lynnwood to first exhaust its resources in that category and if
maintenance and operation deficits still existed, Edmonds and Mountlake Terrace would each contribute
an equal proportion, 3) amending language on an exhibit to establish a ceiling on the contingency reserve
fund, and 4) CASCD Board would agree that if the May 1998 ballot issue did not pass, it would not be
placed on the ballot again until 1999 to allow cities with other issues to bring them forward to the ballot.
He said the CASCD Board will meet Wednesday, February 11 at 6:30 and it is anticipated the revised
proposal will be adopted. The City of Lynnwood met yesterday and took no action.
Council President Haakenson observed the annual economic benefit to the City of Edmonds was
approximately $492,000 and asked the economic benefit to other cities. Mr. Easton answered
approximately $7 million for Lynnwood and $200,000 for Mountlake Terrace.
Mayor Fahey recalled the combination of new incremental taxes increases and the countywide
hotel/motel tax indicated in the feasibility study would be adequate to debt service the anticipated deficit;
however, the current proposal indicates deficits much larger. Mr. Easton said there is no new estimate of
the projected operating deficit. The current financing plan proposes to provide a contingency in the
event the deficit exceeds projections.
Mayor Fahey observed Edmonds would pay approximately 29% of the debt service for the capital bond
and asked what percentage Lynnwood's assessed valuation would pay. Mr. Easton answered 25 %.
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COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAAKENSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WHITE,
TO EXTEND THE HEARING FOR 30 MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED.
Council President Haakenson reported the Council received three letters from, 1) the Associated Students
of Edmonds Community College Executive Board in support of the project and requesting a vote in
favor, 2) Rob Morrison, 250 Beach Place, Edmonds, requesting a vote against the proposal, and 3) a
three page proposal from Lynnwood Councilmember Jim Smith who appears to be opposed to the
project.
Mayor Fahey opened the public participation portion of the hearing.
Snohomish County Councilmember Gary Nelson, 9710 Wharf Street, Edmonds, a member of the
CASCD Board, said Snohomish County Council has also studied the CASCD proposal. He noted four
new hotels are operating in the area since the feasibility study was done and the cities and county have
been rewarded with ever - increasing amounts of hotel /motel tax. He said the County Council has offered
a $385,000 investment in the project because they believe it will be good for all cities involved. He
pointed out the numerous groups who need such a facility including performing groups as well as civic
organizations. He commented that Edmonds will benefit even though the facility will be located in
Lynnwood and members of the hospitality industry have indicated they plan to have vans bring visitors
to Edmonds. He said the facility would provide a long -term benefit to the City and be a regional legacy.
He urged the Edmonds City Council to approve the interlocal agreement, noting, CASCD needed the
three major cities and the county. He pointed out the City Council's affirmative vote would give citizens
an opportunity to vote on the issue. He noted although the performing arts facility on the ballot
previously was not validated, it easily passed which indicates people are supportive of such a facility.
Cami Smith, 9228 183rd Place, Edmonds, thanked Councilmembers White, Earling, and Van
Hollebeke and Mayor Fahey for their efforts on this "vision." She noted an entire region was required
for such a facility and urged the public to take a wider perspective. She described the wonderful
opportunities she experienced working at the Kennedy Center in Washington, DC, pointing out the
opportunity for seniors, high school and college students to see performances while working at the
facility.
John Wilkins, Olympic Ballet, 9029 240th Street SW, Edmonds, spoke enthusiastically in favor of the
facility. He described his love for Edmonds, noting the City's limits on building heights would not
accommodate a 90 -foot fly loft. He urged the Council to think regionally. He pointed out they can
continue to perform outside the area but preferred something be done to improve the South Snohomish
County area. He pointed out the importance of the Council allowing the public an opportunity to vote on
this issue and said this was also an opportunity for jurisdictions to work together.
Nick Previzack, 21630 79th Avenue W, Edmonds, said he has lived in Edmonds 43 years, worked in
Edmonds 23 years, and employed 25 people in Edmonds for 11 years. He explained his family is active
in performing arts; his parents were among the founders of the Driftwood Theater and owned the
Edmonds Theater for quite some time. As a performer since age 10 and still a musician, he urged the
Council to support allowing the voters to decide this issue.
Ted Kaccio, 14913 18th Lane SE, Mill Creek, General Manager of the Hotel International in
Lynnwood, reported the General Manager of Harbor Inn was not able to attend but was also in favor of
the project. He observed most of the Council's questions focused on the cost vs. benefit financial
analysis. Although he understood the Councilmembers were stewards of the taxpayer money, he urged
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the Council to consider the performing arts component that will address most of the cost of the project
and cost overruns during operation. He equated the performing arts center bond to a school bond;
schools do not create a financial benefit but are essential. He urged the Council to allow the voters to
decide.
Charles McCarthy, member of the Associated Student of Edmonds Community College,
representing 1,000 students who reside in Edmonds, encouraged the Council to vote yes. He pointed out
the need for a performing arts facility in South Snohomish County and the importance of providing a
place for arts in the future.
Theresa Beaver, Puyallup, Director of Sales, Embassy Suites, Lynnwood, said she has been in the
hotel business for 15 years. She pointed out the South Snohomish County area already receives a lot of
benefit from the convention bureau in Seattle; the community will receive incredible benefit from a
convention center in South Snohomish County, seven days a week. She urged the Council to give the
voters an opportunity to vote.
Robert Anderson, 18310 Sunset Way, Edmonds, said his support of the proposal should be obvious as
he started the Cascade Symphony in 1962 and conducted it for 32 years. He described his efforts to
establish the Cascade Symphony which included drawing a circle that encompassed 100,000 people with
the theory that if 1% of the people attended, the facility would be solvent. He pointed out although 9 - 12
members of the orchestra live in Edmonds; the remainder live elsewhere and the same is true for the
audience. He said the City of Edmonds already receives benefit from the orchestra when people
attending the orchestra patronage Edmonds restaurants. He stressed this facility is needed and
jurisdictions need to work together.
Gregory Isaacs, Seattle, spoke in support of the performing arts center and observed the numerous
members of the orchestra and dancers in the audience who supported this proposal. He explained the
hall in which an orchestra performs is its instrument; they are currently not playing on a fine instrument.
He urged the region to give them one.
Al Rutledge, 7101 Lake Ballinger Way, Edmonds, referred to the economic benefit generated by the
performing arts and convention center, and said the RTA should include transportation to and from the
performing arts and convention center which would increase revenue to Edmonds. He questioned the
date for the bond issue and the time period for the bond. He referred to the swimming pool proposal and
field improvements, noting Lynnwood would benefit but not pay for it.
Meryl Hrdlicka, 6202 195th Street, Lynnwood, a representative of the Trustees of Edmonds
Community College, pointed out a decision must be made by midnight, February 11, or all this work has
been for nothing. He urged the cities to come to an agreement to prevent: a legacy from being lost. He
pointed out Lynnwood would pay the majority of the operating deficit. He said the public deserved an
opportunity to vote on this issue and allow the facility to bring cultural acts to the South Snohomish
County area. He urged the Council to reach resolution with the other cities involved by the deadline.
Pauline Thompson, 23913 115th Place W, Edmonds, described her pride in being a member of the
community, shopping and doing business in the City. As a former member of the Edmonds Alliance for
Economic Development, she was interested in Edmonds growing the right way. She accepted a
volunteer position as the Chairman of the election campaign for the Regional Convention and
Performing Arts Facility due to her passion for the arts and also for Edmonds. _She said Edmonds would
benefit from this facility even though it is geographically a few miles away because the Edmonds area
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would appeal to visitors of the facility. She pointed out the convention center could include an Edmonds
display, inviting visitors to the City. On a $200,000 house, the proposed bond would cost approximately
$6 per month, a price she was willing to pay.
Bruce Coxly, 5525 145th Place SW, Edmonds, thanked the Council for their work on this issue. He
referred to the people who have worked to bring this issue forward and said he supported a convention
center and performing arts center.
Pamela Cosse, President of South Snohomish Chamber of Commerce, 16344 34th Place NE, Lake
Forest Park, said she has been working on this project, along with many others, for the past 4%2 years.
She explained the South Snohomish Chamber of Commerce is a regional chamber and represents over
700 members; about 20% of their membership is from Edmonds. She noted many of the business
owners in Lynnwood reside in Edmonds and support this project. She said the site currently being
scrutinized was unanimously agreed upon as the best site regionally by a group of regional leaders, real
estate, finance, and development communities. She encouraged the Council to vote in favor of the
proposal due to its importance to the community and the region.
Rita Bennett, 1428 Olympic Avenue, Edmonds, an Edmonds resident for 23 years, said her
organization, Christian Renewal Association, a national and international organization has held a six -day
conference each year at the Harbor Square Mall. She said she was not on either side but was in favor of
a conference center with a motel nearby. She noted her conference is outgrowing the space at Harbor
Square. She expressed concern with the costs paid by Lynnwood vs. Edmonds and suggested some
adjustment be made.
Greg Martz, Harbor Point, pointed out the quality of performing arts at Olympic Ballet. He said his
family commutes to Edmonds 3 -4 times per week so that his children can attend the quality instruction at
Olympic Ballet. He pointed out the importance of having a "top- notch" facility. He said the facility
would support itself and urged the Council to vote in favor.
With no further public comment, Mayor Fahey closed the public participation portion of the hearing.
COUNCILMEMBER VAN HOLLEBEKE MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER
NORDQUIST, TO EXTEND THE HEARING 15 MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilmember Van Hollebeke explained he has agonized over this decision, has attended numerous
meetings and negotiations sessions, has met with interested parties, and listened to the speakers at
tonight's hearing. He said the performing arts and convention .center did not look like a good deal for
Edmonds from an economic standpoint. The total capital costs range from $26 - $40 million and
Edmonds' share is approximately $7.6 - $11.7 million. He said this was a disproportionately large
portion because Edmonds would pay approximately $600,000 -.$1 million in debt service and potential
increases in sales for Edmonds are only $447,000. He recognized the aesthetic value the center would
bring to the community, noting he wants to be a community player. He agreed with Snohomish County
Councilmember Gary Nelson's viewpoint from a county or regional standpoint; however, as a
representative of Edmonds, he was not certain. He pointed out that tonight the Council is asked to make
a decision regarding the interlocal agreement that addresses how the citizens of Edmonds assist in
supporting the debt service to this project. The second issue is the bond issue; he was reluctant to place a
bond issue before the citizens of Edmonds for $7 - $11 million that did not absolutely serve the Edmonds
area. With a great deal of difficulty, he would vote to support the issue to allow the voters of the region
to decide whether they want the facility. He stressed the proposal is of marginal benefit to the City of
Edmonds from an economic standpoint.
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Councilmember White distributed the revised proposal.
Council President Haakenson agreed this was an agonizing decision for him and the Council that has
been ongoing for several months. He expressed appreciation for the work Councilmembers Van
Hollebeke, Earling, and White have done serving on the task force. He is supportive of arts in Edmonds
and is acutely aware of the need to work regionally with surrounding cities. He said it was extremely
difficult for him to ask Edmonds' voters to be taxed at a rate of $600,000 - $1 million to generate
$400,000 -- it did not make economic sense. He pointed out Lynnwood would receive 92% of the
benefit of this facility but Edmonds residents would pay 29.3 %, the bulk of the share. He said he would
support the revised proposal so that the public could vote upon the bond. He stressed it was not an easy
decision and he was still not comfortable with it.
Councilmember Earling recalled the RTA vote in which 57% of the voters voted to establish a transit
system within the three county area, and said most of those who voted in favor (61% of Edmonds'
citizens) were not concerned if the bus would come in front of their house or where the light rail line
would be in relationship to the City, they voted in favor because it was the right thing to do. Rather than
considering the economic impact, he urged the Council to consider that citizens want to go to a
performing arts and convention center. He pointed out the numbers appear to indicate there is an
opportunity to pass the bond issue. He stressed the "real" people -- the musicians and the audience -- are
his concern and said the public deserves an opportunity to vote on the issue. He said this was an
opportunity to consider a regional project that would enrich citizens' cultural lives and the community.
He planned to vote in favor and was hopeful the Lynnwood City Council would understand the issues
addressed in the revised proposal. He reiterated this was a bigger issue than numbers.
Councilmember White emphasized a large part of the decision was a quality of life issue; Edmonds
citizens have indicated that it is the quality of life that draws them to Edmonds. The costibenefit analysis
is an important factor for consideration but is not any more important than the quality of life. He noted
the flower baskets in the City did not provide an economic benefit and the height limits are an economic
detriment to the City but they are in place to enhance the quality of life. He said it was appropriate to
allow the public to vote on the issue. He said the proposal he distributed was the most recent draft of the
proposal and was essentially what Lynnwood received last night with the correction of typographic
errors.
Councilmember Plunkett observed this is an issue regarding the arts and was a question of faith rather
than economics. He agreed voters should be allowed to make a decision on this issue.
Councilmember Nordquist said although he may have his own opinion, as an elected official, he must
listen to the public. He pointed out Edmonds was a progressive community that began the Driftwood
Theater, the Senior Center, and the Sister Cities Commission. He agreed with allowing the public an
opportunity to vote on the issue.
COUNCILMEMBER EARLING MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER VAN
HOLLEBEKE, TO APPROVE THE AMENDED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WAS JUST
HANDED OVT BY COUNCILMEMBER WHITE. MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Fahey adjourned the Council to Committee Meetings at 9:40 p.m.
BARBARA S. FAHEY, MAYO
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SANDRA S. CHASE, CITY CLERK
Edmonds City Council Approved Minutes
February 10, 1998
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AGENDA
r EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL.
Plaza Meeting Room - Library Building
650 Main Street
7:00 -10:00 p.m.
FEBRUARY 10, 1998
COMMITTEE WORK MEETING
(Second Tuesday of Each Month)
The three City Council committee meetings are work sessions for the City Council and staff only. The meetings
are open to the public but are not public hearings. The City Council will first meet together as a full Council and
will then meet separately as committees in different meeting rooms as indicated below.
FULL COUNCIL REVIEW (Large Plaza Meeting Room, Library Building, 650 Main Street)
7:00 P.M. - CALL TO ORDER
FLAG SALUTE
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
2. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
(A) ROLL CALL
(B) APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 3, 1998
(C) APPROVAL OF MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT RATE INCREASE IN ACCORDANCE WITH IRS
REGULATIONS AND CITY RESOLUTION NO. 583
3. (40 Min.) RECOGNITION OF BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS (Recess to Reception at 7:30 p.m. /Council
Meeting to Reconvene at 7:40 p.m.)
4. (45 Min.) CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON THE CULTURAL ARTS, STADIUM AND .CONVENTION
DISTRICT (CASCD) PROPOSAL
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ADJOURN TO COMMITTEE MEETINGS
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PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE (Anderson Center, 700 °Main Street, Room 210 -A)
(A)
(15 Min.)
STATUS OF 800 MEGAHERTZ PROJECT
(B)
(15 Min.)
TOTAL STATION ELECTRONIC DISTANCE MEASURING SYSTEM
(C)
(10 Min.)
PURCHASE OF BALLISTIC SHIELD
(D)
(20 Min.)
DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE PROHIBITING THE POSSESSION OF
CIGARETTES BY A MINOR .
(E)
(10 Min.)
REPORT ON EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES
(F)
(20 Min.)
DISCUSSION ON RESCUE BOAT OPTIONS
COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE (Anderson Center, 700 Main Street, Room 114)
(A) (15 Min.) PROPOSED MAJOR CODE AMENDMENTS
(B) (20 Min.) FOLLOW -UP DISCUSSION ON SIGN ORDINANCE
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FEBRUARY 10, 1998
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(C) (10 Min.) STATUS OF BACKUP POWER FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT
(D) (2o Min.) UPDATE ON MEADOWDALE DRAINAGE INVESTIGATIONS
FINANCE COMMITTEE (Anderson Center, 700 Main Street, Room 113)
(A)
(10 Min.)
STREET DIVISION VACTOR REPLACEMENT
(B)
0o Min.)
DISCUSSION OF 1998 POLICE CAR LEASES
(C)
(15 Min.)
DISCUSSION TO CONVERT THE HALF -TIME ANIMAL CONTROL POSITION TO FULL TIME
TO COVER PARKING ENFORCEMENT
(D)
(15 Min.)
STATUS OF 800 MEGAHERTZ PROJECT
(E)
(15M1n.)
TOTAL STATION ELECTRONIC DISTANCE MEASURING SYSTEM
(F)
(5 Min.)
APPROVAL OF`PETTY CASH EXPENDITURES FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY 1998
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ollowing Wednesday, Monday and Friday at noon.