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CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES
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Claims for damages were acknowledged from G. John Doces & Doces Enterprises,
Inc.; from Dennis & Sandra.Rothaus; and from Dr. & Mrs. Arthur F. Stamey.
These were referred to the City Clerk for processing.
REQUEST FOR STREET VACATION - 10th AVENUE, SOUTH OF.MAIN
A request was received from Howard W. Hartness for vacation of the easterly
ten feet of 10th Ave., title of which would revert to Lot 1, Block 39. He
stated that this is necessary because of the.existinc house on Lots 3 and 4
encroaching on Lot 2 of the Lots 1 and 2 property, thus giving less than 60'
frontage front and rear.
City Planner Merlin Logan drew a diagram of the properties concerned on the
blackboard for council clarification, and City Engineer Leif Larson recom-
mended disapproval. Since Council had previously studied the request, it was
moved by Councilman Kincaid,, -seconded by Councilman Gellert to uphold the
recommendation of the City Engineer and disapprove the request for vacation.
Motion carried.
PRELIMINARY PLAT OF ELM VIEW ADDITION
The preliminary plat of Elm View Addition, 7.5 acre tract between 7th Ave.
and 8th Ave., south of Elm, was presented to council. City Planner Logan
showed a drawing of the plat, which had been approved by the Planning Commis-
sion. After study and discussion, it was moved by Councilman.Haines, seconded
by Councilman Slye to approve the preliminary plat of Elm View Addition,
subject to the City Engineer's recommendations. Motion carried.
TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT 224th AND HIGHWAY 99
City Engineer Larson reported to council that he was concerned with the inter-
section at 224th and Highway 99, recommended a temporary "fixed time" light
for an expenditure of :$5000, and this could later be used at 212th after the
approval is received for funding for a permanent installation at 224th.
Following discussion, it was moved by Councilman Slye, seconded by Councilman
Nordquist to authorize the purchase of a traffic signal for 224th and Highway
99 and enlist the financial aid of K-Mart on the project. Councilman Nelson
expressed concern with the left turn pattern at 224th off the highway. Motion
to purchase the signal carried.
There was no further business, and the meeting adjourned at 10:30 P.M.
Irene Varney Mo n, City Clerk
November 2, 1971
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Harve H. Harrison, Mayor
Regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order by'Mayor Harve
Harrison with all councilmen present. Mayor Harrison mentioned that regardless
of the outcome of today's election, he was sure friendships had been strengthened
as a result of the competition.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the meeting of October 19 had been posted and mailed. It was noted
that under the hearing on Planning Commission Resolution 364, when Pete Scobby
asked if the proposed ordinance would effect the Edmonds High School sign, City
Planner Logan had answered that it would not, since that was not in a BN zone.
Councilman Nelson also stated that under the item on traffic signal at-224th
and Highway 99, he had expressed concern not only with the left turn pattern
at 224th off the highway, but the subsequent line-up of traffic between 76th and
Highway 99. There were no further omissions, and the minutes were approved as
corrected.
HEARING: (CONTINUED) ON PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION 364
Hearing on Planning Commission Resolution 364 had been continued from October
19, recommending approval of a proposed amendment to the official zoning
ordinance, revising Section 12.13.160, Permitted Signs, Planning Commission
File ZO-8-71.
City Planner Merlin Logan stated that it seemed to be the consensus of council
that pole signs in BN zones be retained, and he summarized the council sugges-
tions for revisions,based on discussions at the work meetings of October 12th
and 26th.
Mr. Logan also reported that Mr. Ward Phillips had phoned to express his
opinion that services and products bring business, not signs. Councilman
Nelson asked how many non -conforming signs there were at present, and Mr.
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Logan answered that there had been no inventory taken. Councilman Tuson said
that before he voted, he would like to know how many people would be effected
because of the non -conformity. Councilman Haines said he would also like the
information on how many non -conforming signs there were, and asked the City
Planner if this could be determined before changes are included in the final
draft of the proposed ordinance:p so that council might see a copy prior to
passage. Hearing was then reopened.
Mr. Earl Shreve, representing Standard Oil Co., asked if any sign not mentioned
in the proposed ordinance would be prohibited. The City Planner answered that
there would be no regulation on any type not mentioned. Mr. Shreve then re-
ferred to Paragraph 3 in the suggested revisions, where it stated that rAnimum
height between the ground and the bottom of the sign shall be 8 feet, and he
agreed that this would satisfy his.needs.' However, he felt that it would be
difficult to have the supporting poles back more than 10 feet, the minimum -
setback mentioned, and asked if the restriction here could be limited, since
a 101-setback could be prohibitive in some cases. Mr. Nicholson, Chevron
station at Westgate, stated that the biggest obstruction to traffic at West-
gate was the traffic regulator. He said he had two signs, one on top and one
on a pole at the SW corner of the property, and to set hallmark signs -back
10' would be a hardship, especially when the new highway takes additional
property off the front of these businesses. The Mayor suggested that perhaps
the last sentence in Paragraph 4 could be eliminated, and the setback then be
governed by the previous sentence that does not mention 10 feet, but rather
that it shall not project into the public RAW. Councilman Kincaid said he
was in favor of eliminating this last sentence. It was agreed that the end
of the sign should not extend over the property line, however. A gentleman
in the audience who lives in a BN area'offered the comment that'no sign im-
proves the beauty from anyone's window, and he objects to signs, but realized
businessmen need them. He added he was relying on the council's judgement for
improvement esthetically that would also be in line with the business point of
view. There were no other comments from the audience, and the hearing was
closed.
Councilman Gellert said it was the intention of council to keep the BN areas
as pleasing to the neighborhood as possible, and suggested an esthetic para
graph could place the city on record as favoring this. Following discussion,
it was moved by Councilman Tuson, seconded by.Councilman Slye to instruct the
Attorney to prepare an ordinance incorporating the suggestions for revisions
'and have ready for the November 16 meeting. Motion carried.
SECOND READING: PROPOSED ORDINANCE PROHIBITING CONNECTIONS OF STORM DRAINAGE
WATER TO CITY OF EDMONDS SEWER SYSTEM
Second reading was held on a proposed ordinance prohibiting connections of
storm drainage water to the City of Edmonds sewer system. Councilman Tuson
questioned Section 2 of the proposed ordinance, objecting to a penalty apply-
ing to people who were allowed to do this years ago and now suddenly find
themselves in violation and subjected to a penalty. Attorney Murphy quoted
the one year statute of limitations for action. It was offered that special
problems would take special consideration, and it would be left to the dis-
cretion of the Public Works Director to understand and deal in a reasonable
manner with any hardship cases. Ron Whaley, Director of Maintenance and
Operation, stated that it would be a gradual process and there was no problem
in the majority of cases; that it was a simple case of disconnecting and
channeling that water elsewhere. Captain Shields cited the case of this water
running onto someone else's property. There was a great deal of discussion on
wording of Section 2, with several suggestions including substituting "is
cited for violation" for "who has violated" and adding "who, 90 days after
notification, remains in violation". The suggestion was also given that when
existing illegal storm drainage continued after proper notification by the
city, instead of the penalty of a fine and jail sentence, an additional charge
for this storm water be added to the violator's utility bill.
It was then moved by Councilman Nelson, seconded by Councilman Kincaid that
proposed Ordinance #1580 be passed, and the motion carried. Councilman
Nelson also made the motion, seconded by Councilman Nordquist to place on the
next council agenda a proposed ordinance providing'for'additional'utility
charges for existing illegal storm drainage connected to the sewer system in
lieu of aforementioned penalty.
ALLEY USE PERMIT
A request had been received from Mr. Turner,-840 Dayton, for an alley use
permit. City Engineer Leif Larson reported that it was city policy that an
uni#iproved alley can be used, without structures, by the abutting property
owners. CAO D. C. Lawson stated that past policy was to allow use of the
alley by each property owner to the center line, and this was an administra-
tive decision on an informal basis, the continuance of which he supported.
However, City of Edmonds Ordinance #1416 sets forth provisions for permits
for use of public places, and regulations relating thereto. Following dis-
cussion, a motion was made by Councilman Nelson, seconded by Councilman
Gellert to instruct the City Attorney to prepare an amendment to the existing
ordinance to discontinue public use permits in residential areas, for non-
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commercial use. Motion carried.
PRELIMINARY PLAT - ROY CHURCH ON BOWDOIN WAY
City Planner Merlin Logan presented the preliminary plat of Roy Church on
Bowdoin Way, which had been approved by the Planning Commission. Mr. Logan
posted a plat map and explained to council reasons for proposed location of
the roadway. Council suggested improvement of the road by eliminating one
lot and thus allowing a turn -around area, especially'for emergency fire
apparatus. City Planner Logan asked for postponement'of this agenda item
until the Engineer and developer could be present. It was therefore moved by
Councilman Nordquist, seconded by Councilman Nelson that this preliminary plat
be postponed to the next regular council meeting. Motion carried.
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AWARD
Mayor Harrison had received from the AAA a pedestrian safety placque, awarded
to the City of -Edmond for 7 years with no pedestrian deaths in the city. The
Mayor presented the award for this achievement to'Police Chief Marlo Foster,
who in turn thanked everyone involved in the program of safety in Edmonds.
RESOLUTION APPROVING APPLICATION AND CONTRACT WITH EMERGENCY EMPLOYMENT ACTS'
PROGRAM
CAO Lawson commented on the necessity to conform with the requirements of the
federal government in order to quality for the EEA program, and this agreement
with the county by resolution is one of the requirements. Mr. Lawson went on
to explain the program to council, including the three phases and number of
people the City of Edmonds had applied for. Following this, it was moved by
Councilman Gellert, seconded by Councilman Nordquist that proposed Resolution'
248 be passed, authorizing the execution of an interlocal governmental agree-
ment between the County of Snohomish and the City of Edmonds, pursuant to the
Emergency Employment Act of71971:,, Motion carried.
CORRESPONDENCE
The City Clerk reported that she had received a.notice from Attorney Curtis
Thomson advising that the required 75% of owners signatures had been obtained
for the proposed annexation of Bellin's Gardens. However, the petition itself
must be filed with the City Clerk so that it can be checked for validity and
sufficiency and then certified before a hearing date can.be set.
Mayor Harrison noted that an invitation had been received for the Veterans
Day Program at the Lynnwood Veterans of Foreign Wars Post Home at 8 P.M. on
November 5.
COUNCIL PARTICIPATION
Councilman Tuson asked if the CAO could inquire into the problem of the lack: -
of regular payments from Mountlake Terrace on the sewer agreement.
CAn REPnRT
CAO Lawson reported that the City Engineer requested a date be set for the
hearing on the final assessment roll on LID 178, Phase II of the 76th West
paving. It was moved by Councilman Nordquist, seconded by Councilman Slye
that the hearing on the final assessment roll for LID 178 be set for December
7, 1971. Motion carried.
Mr. Lawson also reported that the Mayor has given the preliminary budget for
1972 to the Finance Director to compile; that this will be discussed at the
November 9 council work meeting when the newly council members will
be in attendance, and the preliminary budget will then be officially pre-
sented to council at the November 16 meeting. Councilman Nordquist inquired
about a council representive on the labor negotiation team, and this will
be decided upon following•:outcome of the election.
PRESENTATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTIONS
City Planner Merlin ;ogan presented Planning Commission Resolution 366, re-
commending denial of a proposed reclassification of Olympic View Drive on the
comprehensive thoroughfare plan, File CP-2-71. Following Mr. Logan's explan-
ation of this recommendation by the Commission, a motion was made by Council-
man Nelson, seconded by Councilman Nordquist to uphold the denial of the
Planning Commission in accordance with their recommendation in Resolution 366.
Motion carried.
Planning Commission Resolution 367 was presented, recommending denial of a
proposed amendment to the official street map establishing a street system
for the area between 230th and 232nd - Planning Commission File ST-6-71. It
was moved by Councilman Slye, seconded by Councilman Nelson that December 7
be set as the date for a hearing on Planning Commission Resolution 367.
Motion carried.
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CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES
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A claim for damages was received from John D. McDevitt, and this was referred
to the City Clerk for processing.
TEMPORARY AGREEMENT FOR CENTRAL DETENTION FACILITIES WITH LYNNWOOD POLICE
DEPARTMENT
A motion was made by Councilman Nelson, seconded by Councilman Tuson that the
matter of.a temporary agreement for central detention facilities with the
Lynnwood Police Department be continued to the meeting of December 7, and
the motion carried.
There was no further business, and the meeting adjourned at 10:35 P.M.
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Irene Varney Moran ity.Clerk
November 16, 1971
ROLL CALL
Harve H. Harrison, Mayor
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order by Mayor
Harve Harrison with all councilmen present.
• APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the meeting of November 2 had been posted and mailed, and with no
omissions nor corrections, they were approved as written.
INFORMAL HEARING ON SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT
This was the evening set for informal hearing on sidewalk improvement, and City
Engineer Leif Larson presented a drawing of a proposed plan for the downtown
area. He noted the lack or condition of sidewalks on 2nd and 3rd Avenues, and
said the question had also arisen regarding planting strips or perhaps trees
in tubs after walks are installed. He then stated the two ways in which a
project of this sort can be accomplished; (1) by the LID method, or (2) side-
walk construction fund ordinance. He added that for a downtown project, the
need was for community and business involvement, and decisions on,width as
well as with or without planting strips. Engineer Larson then gave an estimate
of the several costs involved, and the hearing was opened.
Dave Larson, who owns 2 lots at the intersection of 3rd and Dayton, agreed with
the idea of sidewalk improvement. He noted that elderly people walk in that
area, and both situations of either no sidewalk or a badly cracked one present
hazards. Mr. Larson was in favor of 10 ft. wide sidewalks on 2nd and 3rd to
match the commercial area width, and he was also in favor of underground wiring
being coordinated with the sidewalk installation so as not to tear up new walks
in the near future. Mr. Larson also felt it desirable for sidewalks to'go to
the curb and landscaping done on private property or perhpas use of planter
boxes. '
Tom Powell, property owner on 2nd, felt sidewalks would hurt, rather than help
• him. Pat Welling, Chairman of the Beautification Committee, said the Committee
had discussed this matter of sidewalks and recommended paving to the curb area
with openings cut in the walks for planting of trees, which she felt was pre-
ferable to tubs. She stressed the need for more trees in the downtown area,
and stated that the type of tree selected was important because of growth
pattern and root system, etc. Mrs. Welling noted that in her travelling about
the country, she had noticed many cities with approved tree planting programs
which served to enhance the beauty of the area.
Councilman Kincaid asked that it be made a matter of minute record that he
would not participate in the discussion on this sidewalk improvement since he
was a property owner on 2nd.
A gentleman in the audience, owner of a 12 unit apartment building, stated
there was no sidewalk and he wanted one regardless of the width, etc. In
answer to building on 2nd, where his Auto Freight business formerly was located.
Dave Larson, when asked by Councilman Nelson how he felt about -the cost factor,
replied that cost are not going down in the future, and when people accept
commercial ownership they also accept sidewalk responsibility. He added that
he would like to see the work done on a comprehensive basis,'mot one piece at
a time. Councilman Haines asked if there was any possibility in getting a
petition for this project from the downtown ownerships, but Dave Larson
answered that he could not offer any encouragement along these lines. Lenore
Collins, Brookmere Drive, stated she was in favor of undergrounding the wires,
,but the PUD was not too cooperative in giving estimates. She added that
uniform 10' sidewalks in the business area would certainly enhance the city.
Councilman Haines asked for a sizeable interest by property owners before any
design work is done on this. Councilman Slye agreed. Attorney James Murphy
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