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CAO Whaley said he wished to stress that quotas are out, and there should be no
discrimination because of sex, national origin, etc. He felt it was important
to the city to see that equal treatment and consideration is given to present
employees, and the procedures to be established be -to ,not discriminate. Coun-
cilman Gellert noted that .quotas are illegal, but goal's are not: He said that
the table on present city employees in the CAO report was excellent, but he
would like to see any minorities added to that table, since it would help the
action committee in setting.its goals.
Mr. Richard McKenzie, 9230 Olympic View Drive, spoke from the audience. He
said he would like to answer Councilman Tuson's question on present city policy
or the current, -program as -being in conflict with the affirmative action program,
and he would like to answer that yes, it -is. He stated:•that,-he felt the letter,*_
from Mr. Strickler was contradictory.- His point of view was that the city
should adopt an affirmative action plan because -presently minorities are•ex-
cluded from the plan and this is the primary purpose of the Act. Mayor Harrison
asked Mr. McKenzie what exactly is the definition of a minority? If you are not
strictly a pure breed of some sort, -does that make you a minority? Is 25% of
anything a minority? Mr. McKenzie answered that he is a registered Indian. At
this point, Dr..Anderson commented that the federal policy on HEW recognizes, as
far as Indian register is concerned, that 25% or more entitles them to whatever
benefits accrue to that group. Mr. McKenzie said he would hope that the Edmonds
City Council would adopt some plan, and he realized research must be done before
adoption. Mrs. McKenzie, also in the audience, spoke in favor of adoption of a
plan. Councilman Gellert mentioned that it might be a worthwhile addition to the
committee to include a minority person.
• There was much discussion, and following this, Councilman Nordquist stated that
there had been a volume of information received tonight, so he would like to
make a motion that council take the material home to study and place this item
on the July 10 council agenda. The motion was seconded by Councilman Gellert
and carried. Councilman Nordquist added that this be taken up early in the
evening on July 10.
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A member of the League of Women Voters, in the audience, told council that the
League was studying the question of hiring of minorities, etc., especially as
it,applies to the school district, and the same may be true in city government.
She congratulated the council on their intent to study and act on this problem.
Councilman Nelson remarked that it would be interesting to see what the League
comes up with on their study.
CAO Whaley noted that the Association of Washington Cities expects to have.
available a model plan and model ordinance in the near future.
There was no further business to come before council and the meeting was
adjourned at 9:50 P.M.
Irene Varney Moran,QCty Clerk Harve H. Harrison, Mayor
May- 29, 1973
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The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 1:30 P.M.
by Mayor Harve Harrison with all council members present.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the council meeting of May 22, 1973 had been posted, mailed and
distributed. Councilman Tuson stated that on page 3 of the May 22nd council
minutes he had made the comment about the sign being wrong down at 3rd and
Dayton. He wanted to clarify that,the arrow was pointing the wrong way, which
was south on 3rd, and it should.have pointed down Dayton. He said he had
looked at it over the weekend and the'Police had two arrows, and it worked
out real well. The minutes were then•approved as corrected.
COUNCIL PARTICIPATION
Gouncilman Anderson mentioned that last week the council had heard some corr-
espondence•from some residents on 201st regarding street conditions. He inquired
as to the policy,of the City in following up on correspondence to these people.
City Engineer Leif Larson explained that this involves the annual budget for
residential street maintenance.and that Engineering and Public Works usually
work together on establishing a priority list. The Mayor then asked Mr. Larson
to explain how they establish priorities on streets: Mr. Larson said that the
Public Works Department and Engineering make a joint•inspection of the streets
taking into consideration the condition of the street, amount of breakup that
occurred during the winter, the amount of traffic on the street and the number
of residents that complain about a certain street. He stated that the cost of
maintenance is also considered. Mayor'Harrison inquired where the money comes
from to take care of the streets. Mr. Larson said the %Gas Tax money has
been used in the past for arterials and collector arterials, and then the Street
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Fund which is used.for the -maintenance operations of the Street Department.
The Mayor wondered•if.we should be on a preventive maintenance system. CAO
Ron Whaley said that perhaps it would be helpful if he made up a list of what
streets -have been done.; what is to be done and the money to be spent in accom-
plishing this.
Councilwoman Shippen said that she had gathered from newspaper articles and a
conversation with Mr. Bogart of the Highway Department, that the present design
for 196th calls for four moving lanes and a 44' curb to curb street. She said
that she thinks that the council should be considering whether or not they want
to make 196th another ferry access route. She thought that with the southern
ferry freeway, we have more than done our share to faciTita'te":.traffic in and
out�of Edmonds. She suggested the following with respect to 196.th: (1) That
southern route be utilized to'the maximum; (2) That it.not be a through route
for traffic moving out of town and that it should be considered a community
arterial with two moving lanes with left turn lanes, and that 36' from curb to
curb would be sufficient width; (3) That bus turnouts be provided and landscaping
and (4) That bike and footpaths should be provided for. Mrs. Shippen thinks
these four considerations should be an important part of any conversations
with regard to designs to be presented -to -the Urban Arterial Board. City
Engineer, Leif Larson stated that he had received a.letter today from the UAB
indicating that the proposed project on 196th has been rated sufficiently high
on the priorities to permit the UAB to request Edmonds and Lynnwood to consider
preparation and submission of a project prospectus. They also indicated that
they would like to have this by July 2nd. The UAB has proposed that the improve-
ment be from 80th to 64th. Mrs: Shippen asked if they had -specified four lanes.
Mr. Larson said that based upon the present traffic loading and where traffic
is being held up, which is at the intersections of 64th,-68th and 76th, it •
would seem to indicate four lanes were necessary.
The City Engineer said he has'also received a notification on 220th for another
project prospectus to be prepared, with deadline also to be July 21 1973. This
will be on 220th from Highway 99 to 84th. Mr. Larson has, in addition, been
informed that the UAB has authorized that a prospectus be prepared by the
County on 244th from Highway 99 to Firdale Village. He said the next step
now is to prepare the prospectus for agency review and that a joint agreement
should be considered where more than one agency is involved. There followed
discussion on traffic loads and street widths. Mr. Larson said one of his
main concerns.would be adequate drainage, which is required in the improvement
of 196th west of 77th and this would be a portion of the project.
Councilman Tuson-mentioned that on May.15th we had passed Ordinance #1661
which limited parking on portions of Bell Street from Sunset to 2nd. He said
the signs are not up yet and Engineer Larson said he would check on this.
Councilman Gellert said he had noticed that in the minutes of the Planning
Commission Meetings, Board of Adjustment and various other boards, that they
do not specify who voted for or against a particular issue. He stated that
he would be interested to see which way the members of boards or commissions
voted and asked that this be spelled out in the future.
Councilman Anderson said that in regard to Planning Commission Minutes, he
would like to have maps attached when plats, etc. are discussed as it is
difficult to visualize what is being discussed without the maps of the area.
City Planner, Joe Wallis, said maps could be made available.
Mayor Harrison mentioned that the Association of Washington Cities is urging •
all council members who plan to attend their convention in Spokane, to pre -
register. The convention is from the 19th to the 22nd of June.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
J. Ward Phillips read a statement from the Ad Hoc Design Commission Study Group
of which he is chairman. He identified the members, who are: Lee Barton,
representing -the Chamber of Commerce; Paul Cook, Builder -Developer; Dave Larson,
Chairman of.the Planning -Commission; Diane Steinke, Edmonds housewife and design
consultant;.Sam Saindon, Developer; Joe Wallis, City Planner and -Dave Hermans,
Architect. He said they have had three meetings and are meeting twice a month.
Mr. Phillips read this statement which set forth their goals, policies and
listed eleven objectives. He said their immediate concern is the downtown
business district since our overall code is so broad that we do not have any
control over designs or happenings that could take place downtown. Mr. Phillips
noted that there was to be a report from the staff on downtown parking later
in the evening. He asked for a 30 day extension from anything being presented
to the Council, as they would like to have more time to study this extremely
difficult problem that affects all of downtown. Mr. Phillips said he would
like to comment on 196th since it has been brought up tonight. He said the
Study Group is 100% for de-emphasizing auto. They do not feel it is a good
idea to widen this street as it would destroy the natural beauty that is there.
He also dispcussed the freeway access to the ferry stating that this will become
the only logical way for ferry traffic to travel.
Councilman Gellert asked if the purpose of this Study Group is still to come
up With some by-laws for a Design Commission. Mr. Phillips said this is correct,
but when they sat down to discuss this, they discovered that this was difficult_-
to do unless you first determine what your goals, policies and objectives are. •
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Councilman Nelson asked where the jurisdictional boundaries of the Design
Commission lie? Mr. Phillips answered that it would be the City of Edmonds.
Councilman Nelson asked if there'is a study being conducted by the Study Group
on the widening of 196th from 80th to 76th West? Mr. Phillips said he had
commented that this was not the case and that he had spoken earlier about
196th from the "top of the hill" on down. Mr. Phillips said that you have
to look at the entrances into the city, since this affects planning and design
for the city. Councilman Nelson went on to say that he is concerned with'the
Design Commission usurping.the particular Planning Commission objectives. He said
their job is to look at the Comprehensive Thoroughfare Plan and to make rec-
ommendations on these streets, not the Design Commission. Mr. Nelson felt they
should only act in an advisory capacity to the Planning Commission. After
some further discussion, it was established that this is strictly an advisory
group to provok.u�pgcussion on design related matters. Councilman Gellert
asked Mr. Phillips i he felt the Study Group was on schedule and would
have a report ready by September 11th. Mr. Phillips said they are working
towards this. There was some more discussion, following which the Mayor
complimented Mr. Phillips on his report, and commended the Group.
Mayor Harrison asked the council to consider not ever expanding.the Sewage
Treatment Plant in its present location in order to further augment the creation
of an aesthetically -pleasing business community. He asked them to think of
eventually phasing out that location and replacing it over next to the Union
Oil Refinery.
CORRESPONDENCE
• Mayor Harrison stated that he had a letter from the League of Women Voters of
Snohomish County indicating that there will be a meeting on Thursday, May 31, 1973
at 7:30 P.M, at the PUD on Highway regarding Res. 276 (the Disclosure Law).
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Mayor Harrison disclosed that he had received a letter from the State Highway
Department stating that they will be removing the second left turn arrow from
the signal for southbound 76th Avenue -at 244th S.W...pursuant to discussions
at the May 1st council meeting. They said they will continue to monitor the
traffic in this area with the anticipation that future growth may necessitate
the reinstallation of the dual left turn. The Highway Department said they would
advise of any future changes.
Councilman Gellert asked if we could request that the State Highway Department
remove the ferry sign from the freeway at Alderwood Manor. Mayor Harrison said
that they would prefer to leave it there until the completion of Edmonds Way,
and then they will take it down and direct all traffic to 205th.
PRESENTATION OF SUGGESTED PLAN ON ACCESS PROBLEM - WESTWAY SHOPPING CENTER
Mr. Doug Hartwich, an attorney representing the -owners of the Westway Shopping
Center reported on the access problem there. He said this Center involves
several diversified businesses the largest of which is C.& D Market,'along
with the'Chopsticks Restaurant, Los Amigos a TV service, etc. Mr: Harwich
said that he represented the owners in 1971 during the negotiations for the
acquisition of property for the widening of 100th. At that time the settlement
was made with the State and plans were presented to them as to the traffic
pattern and channelization. Those that were submitted from the.ReidMiddleton
Office showeda series of buttons'on 100th Street that would channel the
northbound traffic into the lefthand turn lane and then into Edmonds Way.
Mr. Hartwich pointed out that this was the way the traffic pattern existed
prior to the construction. With this plan anyone coming from the south could
readily turn left into the shopping center. It was pointed out that the largest
number of customers-' come from the south. When construction was completed there
was a raised median strip which completely prohibits left turns into the
Westway Shopping Center. Mr. Hartwich stated that subsequent to this they
had hired a Traffic Engineer that had -worked with them during the condemnation
proceedings, and he had made'a study and submitted a written report which was
sent to the council by letter dated May 4, 1973. This report was dated
January 23, 1973 some time after the median strip went into operation.
Mr. Hartwich said that Mr. Cysewski would make a presentation later in the
evening. 'He went on to say that the C & D Market has been able to make a
customer count to determine how this situation has affected their business.
This study indicated a 24% drop in business. Mr. Hartwich also read a,letter
dated May 16, 1973 addressed to Mr. Mar, the -owner of the Center,'from the
Esquire Cleaners. They indicated that they are closing their business as of
the 1st of June as they can no longer operate profitably in the Center due
to the access problem. Mr. Harwich also read a petition which had been signed
by 1,670 customers of the Westway Shopping Center opposing the channelization
constructed oft 100th Avenue West south of Edmonds Way. This petition was
submitted to the council.
Mt. Cysewski then projected colored slides on the screen showing several views
of the intersection of 100th and Edmonds Way and the channelization there.
It was pointed out that there is no channelization on 9th Avenue, which is
the continuation of 100th Avenue West proceeding north. There is no way to
get into the Westway Shopping Center when coming from the south except through
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the bank parking lot. Also,=you cannot come out of the east side of the
Center parking lot and turn to continue north. Mr. Cysewski suggested that
a portion of the median could be taken out allowing access to the Westway
Shopping Center coming from the south. He did not feel that there would be
a safety problem as most of the movement would occur when traffic coming from
the south is --either continuing north, or proceeding with a left turn onto
Edmonds Way. He pointed out that this street is not really completed as the
right lane still has a control box and major structural members supporting the
span wires and the traffic signals, so that there is improvement to be done.
He stated that all the merchants want is a fair chance.
Mr. Darrell Stone from the C & D Market said a few words at this point. He
said he did not observe any traffic problem before there was channelization,
whereas now he has seen people go over the median strip, persons coming into
the store and expressing irritation at the access situation, etc. He said
he has lost about 4,000 customers. As mentioned by Mr. Hartwich earlier,
Mr. Stone ran a customer count and sales count on his cash registers. He
said most of his business is from 4:00 PM. to 11:00 PM. and that traffic is'
coming from the south, so that his business has been greatly affected by the
lack of access to the Center.
In answer to a question from Councilman Tuson, Engineer Larson explained that
the channelization that exists on the south side of this intersection is also
proposed on all four lights of that intersection. He said that during the peak
traffic period, there are approximately 1600 cars coming from the south and
about one-third of them are making the left turn movement to go down Edmonds
Way. Mr. Larson stated that this is an above normal turning movement, and
this is the reason for the holding lane. He said he sympathized with the
Center's problem, but that he couldn't recommend a break in the median strip •
from a safety standpoint. He used charts on the wall to demonstrate. There
was some discussion, and Mr. Larson indicated that they had tried to hold
the holding lanes to their minimum length, in order not to affect the abutting
property owners, but the Center's driveway is so close to the intersection
it was pretty hard to do. Mr. Cysewski pointed out that the traffic in the
left turn holding lane would be moving on a green light and there would be
an opportunity for people to make the turn into the Westway Shopping Center
driveway with safety. Mr. Larson said that perhaps the best thing to do at
this point would be to accept the property owner's proposal with the idea that
he also review it with the Police Department to see what additional problems
might arise or that they might have knowledge of that would affect this
situation, and come back and report to the council. Councilman Nordquist
suggested that perhaps a sign could be placed at the exit from the shopping
center saying "Right Turn Only". This was thought to be a good idea.
Councilwoman Shippen stated that she thinks the reason why this situation has
arisen is because of primary concern for fast movement of the auto and in the
future we should give consideration to the residents and the businesses.
More discussion followed, after which Councilman Nordquist made a motion sec-
onded by Councilman Winters that the City remove the concrete ribs at this
intersection and in its place install "chicken tracks", with the painting to be
white, and that a "right turn only" sign be installed on the premises of this
property owner on the east exit; and that this be put on a one year trial
period at'which time we will ask the City Engineer to re-evaluate the situation;
and that the motion be subject to the Police Chief's approval. The council
members asked Mr. Nordquist if he meant to remove the whole concrete island
and he stated that this is what he intended. The City Engineer said that the •
white paint would be contrary to any traffic markings, as yellow paint is
what is required. Councilman Gellert then said he would like to amend the motion
to say that the striping be such that it permits two-way left turns in,.:conformance
with the Uniform Traffic Code. Councilman Nordquist seconded. Councilman
Tuson stated that he would like to amend to allow a left turn by taking out
a section of the median and leaving the rest there. This amendment died for
lack of a second. More discussion followed after which the amendment to the
motion was voted upon. The amendment carried following a roll call vote
with Councilman Nelson and Tuson voting against. At this point there was
considerable discussion regarding the motion. Councilman Nordquist then
withdrew his motion and made another motion to postpone this matter until next
week so that both parties can get together and come in with an amicable agree-
ment for providing some access into the Westway Shopping Center coming from
the south. Motion carried.
COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF MANDATORY GARBAGE COLLECTION
Mayor Harrison stated that Councilwoman Shippen had asked that this matter be
postponed to another meeting. A motion was made by Councilwoman Shippen and
seconded by Councilman Nordquist that this item be continued to the June 5th
meeting. Carried. Councilman Gellert stated that he would not be here for
this meeting.
STAFF REPORT ON DOWNTOWN PARKING AS REQUESTED AT MEETING OF APRIL 24
Mayor Harrison reminded council that Mr. J. Ward Phillips had earlier asked
that this item be postponed for one month. A motion was made by Councilman
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Nelson and seconded by Councilman Nordquist that this matter be postponed to
July 10th. Motion carried.
PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WOODLAKE - 16 LOTS - 84th AVE. W. NORTH OF FIVE CORNERS -
DEVELOPER, PUGET SOUND SERVICE CORPORATION - P-5-73.
.City Planner, Joe Wallis reported that this property is approximately four and
three-quarters acres and consists of 16 lots of which 15 are buildable. He
projected slides on the screen showing the location of the property and the
surrounding neighborhood. It is zoned RS-8. Mr. Wallis said there had been
some discussion at the time it was heard before the Planning Commission as to
how lot 9 might be handled, and as to whether or not it could be dedicated to
the City and whether the City could accept it. He said he had a letter this
date from Rod Garretson saying.that we are in a position to accept park land
and that there would be maintenance of the park land. All the lots do conform.
as to minimum size and dimensions, and it is his recommendation that the plat
be given preliminary approval. Councilman Tuson asked if lot 9 was useable.
Mr. Wallis said it was not, but that there is some land at the periphery of it
that could connect into something like a trail system. This proposed park
and access to the plat was discussed briefly. Access by fire equipment was
also discussed. There was some discussion on whether the street could be
extended all the way through. Mr. Wallis said that there were grading problems
when they got to the end of the street and he did not see that larger streets
with larger rights -of -way do anything to the habitable nature of the area.
Following further discussion, a motion was made by Councilman Nordquist and
seconded by Councilman Gellert to approve the preliminary plat of Woodlake,
subject to engineering and planning requirements. Motion carried.
• There being no further business to come before council, the meeting was adjourned
at 10:30 P.M.
Eleanor Quealey, Deputy CkEy Clerk Harve H.�Harrison, Mayor
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Regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order by Mayor
Harve Harrison at 7:30 P.M. with all council members present except
Nordquist, who arrived shortly thereafter; Winters, who arrived at 9:20;
and Gellert, who was attending his daughter's graduation from High School.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the council meeting of May 29 had been posted, mailed and dis-
tributed, and with no omissions nor corrections, they were approved as
written.
At this point, Mr. Martin, associated with the county's solid waste planning,
introduced Mr. Rod Hansen, Director of Solid Waste Planning coordination for
the area. They had been invited to speak before council on agenda item number
8 - Discussion of Mandatory Garbage Collection.
COUNCIL PARTICIPATION
Councilman Tuson noted that Mr. Dewey Leyda, who regularly attends every
council meeting, was not in the audience tonight because he was attending
the high school graduation of his grand daughter.
Councilwoman Shippen stated that she would like to establish a date for hear-
ing in advance for a community development department -along the lines as
mentioned in her memo to council members; that the date be preferably July 17
and on the 24th if a second meeting is required. There was some discussion,
and Mayor Harrison questioned if this item needed a public hearing. Follow-
ing further discussion, Councilwoman Shippen moved, seconded by Councilman
Anderson to set the date for hearing on establishment of a Community Develop-
ment Department for July 17 and 24, if needed. This motion carried.
Councilman Nelson moved to set a hearing date on July 3 for discussion on a
gambling ordinance for the City of Edmonds and take positive steps to in-
struct the City `Attorney to provide an ordinance regulating gambling. This
motion was seconded by Councilwoman Shippen. Councilman Nelson explained
that this will be legalized by default, and he would furnish council members
with a copy of HB 711 and put together other information for their study.
He noted that 10% from gambling monies is allowed for city collection. HB 711,
Councilman Nelson added, should be considered at the public hearing on July 3.
On call for the question, the motion carried.
Mayor Harrison reported to council that in regard to reorganization, he would
like to designate Police Chief Marlo Foster as Assistant CAO, Rio step in
whenever CAO Whaley is out of town.
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