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• <br />May 4, 1976 <br />Rnl I CAI I <br />The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Mayor Harve <br />Harrison in the Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center with all councilmen present. <br />425 <br />Councilman Clement stated he would be absent May 11 and Councilman Anderson stated he would be late <br />for that meeting. Councilman Herb stated he had to leave at 8:30 this evening so would no be <br />• available to vote after that time. <br />The Code Committee had recommended a proposed ordinance to establish the life of building permits. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS THEREFROE MADE BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO HAVE THE FIRST <br />READING OF THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE LIFE OF BUILDING PERMITS ON MAY 25. MOTION CARRIED. <br />M.A.A. Ron Whaley had several requests for agenda items so the following motion -s were made: <br />MOTION:. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, TO REVIEW PLANS AND SPECS ON <br />MAY 11 RE MOUNTLAKE TERRACE LETTER RE UAB 228/236 ST. PROJECT.MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, TO REVIEW PRD 1-76 - Brook - <br />acres for final approval on May 25. MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMPN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON, TO SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING <br />BY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY PLAT P-6-76 - HORIZON WEST ON MAY 25. MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARSNI, TO REVIEW THE PRELIMINARY <br />PLAT P-7-76 - WOODLAKE PARK ON MAY 25. MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, TO HAVE HEARINGS ON P. C. <br />RESOLUTIONS 508, 509, 510, 511 AND 512 ON JUNE 1. MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO PUT ON THIS EVENING'S <br />AGENDA THE AUTHORIZATION TO CALL FOR BIDS FOR THE TALBOT ROAD RECREATIONAL WALKWAY AND BIKE PATH. <br />PROJECT. MOTION CARRIED. <br />HEARING: APPEAL FROM ADB RE CENTURY 21 READERBOARD SIGN <br />® Hearing was held on ADB -7-76 Appeal by Robert Nelson for readerboard sign at 7621 Lake Ballinger Way. <br />City Planner Joe Wallis reviewed the appeal and showed slides of the area under consideration. He <br />stated this item had been heard by the Amenities Design Board at three separate meetings and that <br />members of the board had suggested changes in the height and bulk of the proposed sign but that the <br />applicant was not willing to make any change and had submitted the same sign on all three occasions. <br />Comparisons were made between the proposed sign and the nearby Mobil and Tire Marker signs. Mr. Tom <br />Berry passed out drawings to the Council members giving dimensions of the three signs. Mr. Wallis <br />stated the Century 21 sign was proposed to be erected at the property line on the street. Discussion <br />was held on allowable sizes of signs in relation to the size of the property and whether this proposed <br />sign would be considered a "hallmark" sign. Mr. Wallis stated a hallmark sign would be one that has a <br />nationally identified symbol or logo, so the Mobil, Tire Marker and Century 21 could all be considered <br />hallmark signs. Councilman Herb expressed the opinion, after discussion of how high the sign could be, <br />hat in this case whether the sign is high or low seems to have little significance on the aesthetics <br />of the case. Councilman Anderson noted that the Amenities Design Board had proposed a modification <br />but that the applicant had not taken up that modification, and that the Council was actually hearing <br />an appeal on the original proposal. Hearing was then opened. <br />The applicant, Robert Nelson, introduced Jean VanEaten to make his presentation. She stated the sign . <br />proposed is Century 21's national and international hallmark even though they had not previously used <br />that term. She stated they wanted, as simply as possible, to let the public know that they are Century <br />21 and that they are real estate people and that they felt it would be of more aesthetic -value for the <br />post holding the sign to be a part of the sign design. She felt their sign is professional looking and <br />that they are interested in a professional business. <br />Councilman Gellert questioned whether the lower portion of proposed sign --the readerboard portion --was <br />effective on such a busy arterial and it was answered that they felt the readerboard encourages walk=in <br />traffic which there is in the area. The issue of scale was brought up and Mr. Berry said that Mr. .. <br />Nelson had not said this was the only acceptable scale. It was stated that the first compromise re- <br />ceived from the Amenities Design Board was the same sign without the cross arm and mounted 4' from the <br />ground, but that the board had not said anything about cutting down the size of the sign, except that <br />APPROVAL OF MINUTES <br />Minutes of the regular meeting of April 27 <br />had been posted, mailed and distributed. Councilman <br />Carns noted that in the first motion on page <br />9 the name LLOYD NELSON should be corrected to HARRY <br />NELSON and that in the Speed Limit Ordinance <br />motion for SR 524 and SR 104 on page 10 he had voted <br />no. Councilman Gellert noted that on page <br />8 in the motion regarding the IAC -Application the motion <br />should begin "THAT THE COUNCIL NOT TAKE UP <br />MATTER AT THIS TIME BUT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION <br />..." and that on page 9 in the first motion <br />regarding the Nuisance Ordinance the word "PENALTY" <br />should be replaced with "THREAT OF JAIL SENTENCE." <br />The minutes were then approved as corrected. <br />COUNCIL PARTICIPATION <br />Councilman Nordquist stated that in regard <br />to Item 11 on the Agenda a study had begun on the <br />properties in question and there has been a <br />finding on one or two properties and that a two week <br />MOTION: extension had been requested for the report <br />so that it could be more complete. A MOTION WAS THERE- <br />FORE MADE BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, SECONDED <br />BY COUNCILMAN CLEMENT, TO POSTPONE THE REPORT FROM THE <br />HEALTH DISTRICT ON THE SEPTIC SYSTEM IN THE <br />AREA FO 220TH, 96TH, 95TH AND 217TH UNTIL MAY 18. <br />MOTION CARRIED-. <br />Councilman Clement stated he would be absent May 11 and Councilman Anderson stated he would be late <br />for that meeting. Councilman Herb stated he had to leave at 8:30 this evening so would no be <br />• available to vote after that time. <br />The Code Committee had recommended a proposed ordinance to establish the life of building permits. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS THEREFROE MADE BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO HAVE THE FIRST <br />READING OF THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE LIFE OF BUILDING PERMITS ON MAY 25. MOTION CARRIED. <br />M.A.A. Ron Whaley had several requests for agenda items so the following motion -s were made: <br />MOTION:. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, TO REVIEW PLANS AND SPECS ON <br />MAY 11 RE MOUNTLAKE TERRACE LETTER RE UAB 228/236 ST. PROJECT.MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, TO REVIEW PRD 1-76 - Brook - <br />acres for final approval on May 25. MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMPN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON, TO SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING <br />BY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY PLAT P-6-76 - HORIZON WEST ON MAY 25. MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARSNI, TO REVIEW THE PRELIMINARY <br />PLAT P-7-76 - WOODLAKE PARK ON MAY 25. MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, TO HAVE HEARINGS ON P. C. <br />RESOLUTIONS 508, 509, 510, 511 AND 512 ON JUNE 1. MOTION CARRIED. <br />MOTION: A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO PUT ON THIS EVENING'S <br />AGENDA THE AUTHORIZATION TO CALL FOR BIDS FOR THE TALBOT ROAD RECREATIONAL WALKWAY AND BIKE PATH. <br />PROJECT. MOTION CARRIED. <br />HEARING: APPEAL FROM ADB RE CENTURY 21 READERBOARD SIGN <br />® Hearing was held on ADB -7-76 Appeal by Robert Nelson for readerboard sign at 7621 Lake Ballinger Way. <br />City Planner Joe Wallis reviewed the appeal and showed slides of the area under consideration. He <br />stated this item had been heard by the Amenities Design Board at three separate meetings and that <br />members of the board had suggested changes in the height and bulk of the proposed sign but that the <br />applicant was not willing to make any change and had submitted the same sign on all three occasions. <br />Comparisons were made between the proposed sign and the nearby Mobil and Tire Marker signs. Mr. Tom <br />Berry passed out drawings to the Council members giving dimensions of the three signs. Mr. Wallis <br />stated the Century 21 sign was proposed to be erected at the property line on the street. Discussion <br />was held on allowable sizes of signs in relation to the size of the property and whether this proposed <br />sign would be considered a "hallmark" sign. Mr. Wallis stated a hallmark sign would be one that has a <br />nationally identified symbol or logo, so the Mobil, Tire Marker and Century 21 could all be considered <br />hallmark signs. Councilman Herb expressed the opinion, after discussion of how high the sign could be, <br />hat in this case whether the sign is high or low seems to have little significance on the aesthetics <br />of the case. Councilman Anderson noted that the Amenities Design Board had proposed a modification <br />but that the applicant had not taken up that modification, and that the Council was actually hearing <br />an appeal on the original proposal. Hearing was then opened. <br />The applicant, Robert Nelson, introduced Jean VanEaten to make his presentation. She stated the sign . <br />proposed is Century 21's national and international hallmark even though they had not previously used <br />that term. She stated they wanted, as simply as possible, to let the public know that they are Century <br />21 and that they are real estate people and that they felt it would be of more aesthetic -value for the <br />post holding the sign to be a part of the sign design. She felt their sign is professional looking and <br />that they are interested in a professional business. <br />Councilman Gellert questioned whether the lower portion of proposed sign --the readerboard portion --was <br />effective on such a busy arterial and it was answered that they felt the readerboard encourages walk=in <br />traffic which there is in the area. The issue of scale was brought up and Mr. Berry said that Mr. .. <br />Nelson had not said this was the only acceptable scale. It was stated that the first compromise re- <br />ceived from the Amenities Design Board was the same sign without the cross arm and mounted 4' from the <br />ground, but that the board had not said anything about cutting down the size of the sign, except that <br />