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19760629 City Council Minutes• 451 June 29, 1976 ROLL CALL The regular meeting of the Edmonds Cit.y.Council was called to order at Harrison in the Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center with all Nordquist and Gould, both of whom had advised they would be absent. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 7:30 p.m. by Harve Councilmen present except Minutes of the regular meeting of June 22, 1976 had been posted, mailed and distributed, and with no corrections or omissions they were approved as written. COUNCIL PARTICIPATION A personnel matter had been brought to;,the Council by letter and it was decided it should be MOTION: discussed in Executive Session. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCIL- MAN GELLERT, THAT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BE SET AT THE CLOSE OF THIS EVENING'S REGULAR MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS PERSONNEL MATTER. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Gellert referred to the tentative dinner meeting with the Edmonds School Board and suggested the date of August 19. There was some discussion as to which Councilmen would be MOTION: available on the date or other dates suggested.by the School Board. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HERB, TO SET AUGUST 19 FOR THE DINNER MEETING WITH THE -EDMONDS SCHOOL BOARD. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Gellert advised he would be out of town on August 3 and 10. • Councilman Anderson advised he would be out of town on August 10 and 17. Mayor Harrison advised that the Planning Commission had,approved Preliminary Plat- P-9-76, "Halo MOTION: Haven," and asked the Council to set a public hearing date. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN GELLERT, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, THAT A PUBLIC HEARING ON PRELIMINARY PLAT P-9-76 BE HELD JULY 20. MOTION CARRIED. CORRESPONDENCE 11 u 1 u A letter had been -received by the City Clerk from William J. Young, dated June 24, 1976, re - MOTION: questing a cabaret license for the Edmonds West Tavern. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN GELLERT, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, THAT THE CABARET LICENSE REQUEST FOR THE EDMONDS WEST TAVERN BE RE- FERRED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT THE COUNCIL BE GIVEN A REPORT ON JULY 13. MOTION CARRIED. A letter was received from Dennis Clark, Project Coordinator.of the Neil Armstrong Plaza,.invit- ing the Council to the formal dedication on July 4, 1976, at noon. The City Clerk had received notification from Sound Disposal Inc. that they have applied to -the Washington Utilities and Transportation Commission for a basic rate increase of 15%, to become MOTION: effective August 1, 1976. A MOTION WAS. MADE BY COUNCILMAN GELLERT, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, THAT AN OPEN MEETING BE HELD ON JULY 20 TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASE BY SOUND DISPOSAL INC. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Clement requested that prior to the meeting the Council be furnished copies of the application of the Utilities Commission and Sound Disposal's financial statements since their last rate:. Mayor Harrison advised that the quarterly meeting of & Towns will be held July 15 at the Everett Holiday would be attending and Councilmen Carns and Anderson possibly will attend. the Association.of Snohomish County Cities nn. He inquired which of the Councilmen said they would be. Councilman Herb 1. Mayor Harrison stated a letter had been received from the Shorelines Citizen Advisory Committee regarding the portion of the Union Oil Marsh that is in the county. Mayor Harrison advised that two members of the committee were in attendance this evening and that Mr. Wallis'had briefed them on the status of that property at this point. They had asked that a representative from their committee be allowed to sit in on future meetings between the City and Union Oil, or at least that they be advised of the status. Because of the sensitivity of the negotiations it was felt that the committee should be advised, rather than have a representative in attendance. FILM ON SEWAGE FLOWS INTO PUGET SOUND Councilman Gellert had invited William J. Chase of URS Systems Corporation to present a film depicting simulated sewage flows into different areas of Puget Sound and the contrasting dis- persion in each area. Mr. Chase introduced Peter Sturdevant who narrated the film. The film pointed out some surprising.dispersion results and created some interest in the effects in local waters. Jim Reid offered to show the Council slides of the current action and dispatch of'efflu- in the Edmonds waters. A MOTION.WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GELLERT, THAT MR. REID BE INVITED TO SHOW HIS SLIDES AT THE JULY 13 MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Clement suggested inviting the Shorelines Advisory Committee to attend that meeting. DISCUSSION ON AMBULANCE SITUATION Fire Chief Cooper, Battalion Chief Jack Weinz, and Stevens Memorial Hospital Assistant Adminis- trator Howard Parrett joined the Council for discussion of the local ambulance situation and possible establishment of a paramedic operation. Chief Cooper reviewed figures on ambulance --.-__ and aid car .calls during 1975. He noted that policy had been to transport only life or death matters or when there was no ambulance available. Since the local commercial ambulance service has been discontinued the Fire Department has provided transportation on all calls. There was discussion regarding charging for the service now provided by the Fire Department and Chief C� 452 Cooper noted that Mountlake Terrace has now set a charge of $50 per run,for local transport, with additional mileage charges outside the area. Howard Parrett noted that the hospital -is currently checking with insurance companies in the area to see what they will pay for such trans- port. He added that Blue Cross is one of the largest carriers in this area. Chief Cooper said his main concern is that an amublance service should be provided in the City of Edmonds, and that the question is whether or not here should be a charge. He felt that if the City if going to maintain a full ambulance service there should be some kind of charge to reimburse the City and thereby add personnel. He pointed out that each response utilizes firefighters. The subject of paramedics arose, and the question of whether a fair number of lives could be saved with the utilization of a paramedic service was addressed. Jack Weinz stated .that surveys in other areas indicated a 20% improvement in life saving after advance life support training has been put into effect. There was discussion regarding the funding and training of paramedics and possibilities of hiring already trained paramedics. It was noted that paramedics trained out- side of Washington seldom can pass the certification examination in Washington, and that those trained in Washington are at. a premium. Mayor Harrison said he had gotten the feeling from a recent meeting that doctors would be willing to train them at the hospital at no charge. Mr. Parrett replied that the doctors would be willing to assist, but that they were not contemplat- ed to do the actual training. He said space would be available at the hospital for a training program, but that studies have indicated all the training should not be done at one hospital so varied experience could be gained. He said the University Hospital and Harborview have the only training programs that are recognized by the State. Councilman Gellert raised the•.question of whether services being discussed should be charged for individually to those people being transported, or whether it would be better to fund a program from some sort of city-wide excise tax. It was thought that information should be obtained showing what the options would be for financing an ambulance service or a total para- medic type service. The question arose as to whether the citizens of Edmonds would be in any jeopardy during the time lag in obtaining necessary information. Chief Cooper assured the Council that the citizens are still getting excellent:service, that the only question was • whether to charge for. -it. Councilman Clement said the consensus of the Council appeared to be that the emergency trans- port function will have to be absorbed by the City. He said he felt comfortable in going ahead with a more advanced service but was concerned about the multi -jurisdictional problem. He felt infinite time could be spent trying to coordinate objectives, let alone a program. He did feel, however, that a regional type service will ultimately be the best. Councilman Carns said he also felt this should be looked into, but that the immediate question was whether there should be a charge for ambulance service for Edmonds. He said he would like to continue this discus- sion to July 20 and ask the City Attorney to give the Council a report at the time on financing. MOTION: COUNCILMAN CARNS THEN MADE A•MOTION TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION,.TO JULY 20. Councilman Herb noted that if there is a good change of working things out regionally, this would only be one part of it. Councilman Carns..-replied that a change could always be made to go with another program, but that we should get the alternatives for financing our aid car services, that it should be de- cided whether it will be tax assessment or by a flat charge for people who use the service. He felt both alternatives should be looked at and perhaps a dcision made on July 20. COUNCIL- MAN CARNS THEN AMENDED HIS'MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY ALSO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON INTERLOCAL, REGIONAL AND LOCAL OPTIONS. COUNCILMAN GELLERT SECONDED THE MOTION. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Clement added that he felt in Edmonds there is a significant portion of the people who would be interested in the ambulance service because of our proportion of senior citizens as to..the rest of the county. He said he would like to be sure that the citizens mostly affected are notified.. Chief Cooper advised he would notify some groups and the press was asked to indicate that this will be a public hearing. Mayor Harrison announced a short recess. OPTIONS FOR PUBLISHING PUBLIC NOTICE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS City Planner Joe Wallis and compiled information regarding advertising in four newspapers -- the Tribune/Homemaker, Western Sun, Seattle Post Intelligencer and Seattle Times, and had distributed it to the Council. It gave rates, number of households served in Edmonds and com- ments. Mr. Wallis said he felt advertising in the newspaper has the best potential for cover- ing as many households as possible. He and also included samples of notices published by other cities. Councilman Carns indicated he knew of a commercial enterprise in Edmonds that would be willing to pay for such an advertisement if added to it were the words "This is a public message paid for by -------- Councilman Carns asked what the feeling would be about that. There did not appear to be any real objection and it was noted that such could be done by anyone without prior approval of the Council. Councilman Clement said he felt that the intent had not been a question of promoting City Council meetings, but rather legal require- ments. Councilman Herb, who had originally raised this topic, said his intent was as a matter of good will. Councilman Anderson noted that it would be nice as a good will gesture, but it would notreach the kind of people who are interested in Council meetings as the people who are interested are ones who have a problem. The legal implications were discussed regard- ing proper times of publishing when there is a matter that must be published, comparing use of daily newspapers as opposed to weeklies. The City Attorney explained the requirements of legal notices. Mr. Wallis stated that if legal notices were to published in a daily news- paper it would reduce the lead time but would not reduce man hours of work by his department, Councilman Carns said he would like to work on this:.and report back to the Council. He had discussed with Willis Tucker the possibility of the Western Sun having an office in Edmonds and thereby qualifying to do legal notices. The City Attorney pointed out that if there were more than one newspaper published in Edmonds the business would have to go out for bids. A MOTION: MOTION WAS.MADE BY COUNCILMAN HERB THAT COUNCILMAN CARNS BE AUTHORIZED TO INVESTIGATE THE (Failed) POSSIBILITY OF'FINANCING AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE COUNCIL MEETINGS PAID FOR BY PRIVATE FUNDS AND,.SECONDLY, TO EXPLORE OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR LEGAL NOTICES, PARTICULARLY THROUGH THE WESTERN SUN. MOTION.FAILED. MOTION: COUNCILMAN HERB THEN MADE A NEW MOTION THAT COUNCILMAN CARNS BE AUTHORIZED TO CONTACT THE WESTERN SUN TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF ALTERNATIVES FOR LEGAL NOTICES. COUNCILMAN CLEMENT • • 1 1 n U SECONDED THE,MOTION. MOTION CARRIED. APPROVAL.OF TEMPORARY CONCESSION - EDMONDS'ORDER OF RAINBOW, FOR JULY 4 The City Clerk had received an application for a temporary consession permit for the July 4 holiday, from the Edmonds Order of Rainbow, to sell food and drinks at the City Park during the day's-activities and at the beachhouse and park during the firewords display. Insurance MOTION: requirements had been met and it and been approved by the Police and Fire Chiefs. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON,.SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO APPROVE THE TEMPORARY CONCESSION APPLICATION. MOTION CARRIED. APPRAISAL ON HAINES PROPERTY City Attorney John Wallace stated the appraisal had come in this date but too late to make copies Tor dissemination and: -.at time he would just acknowledge receipt of the appraisal and the accompanying statement. . DISCUSSION ON SEPA GUIDELINES FOR A PROPOSED ORDINANCE PASSAGE ON JULY 6 City Planner Joe Wallis.said this legislation will require some.changes; for example, they are now using an.assessment form and the new requirement is for a check-off.list. He noted that the guideline prescribes the minimum, if you want to address anything else you can. He reviewed some of the highlights of the guidelines.. There was some discussion as to whether the Planning Commission should review this, but the City Attorney advised that the ordinance.,must':be in by July 14, and suggested that if the Council wants the Planning Commission to -coordinate it and amend it, it could be done after passage. Councilman Herb objected to the blanket release re- quired -in Section 13 of the proposed ordinance, but Mr. Wallace advised that had been refined in a more recent draft. Councilman Carns said he could see no problem in passing the next draft provided by the City Attorney and noted that amendments could always be made. In answer to a question regarding risks to the environment,"Mr. Wallis said there were two problems. One, there is no authority to stop someone from clearing,a large parcel of land, and two, storm run-off, in that there is no mechanism to make them look at the soil on a single family resi- dence being built. Councilman Clement -said they had not had enough time to review it thorough- ly and suggested enacting it with no exemptions and then going through the process of determin- ing which areas are exempt. Mr. Wallis also added that there are so many procedural steps involved that must be accomplished that when anyone wants to.challenge them, they take the - Planning Department'.s file and look to see if they have missed any of the procedural steps. He said it is very time consuming but familiarity will make it easier. CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES The Deputy City Clerk reported a claim for damages had been received from the Edmonds Garden Center in the amount of $80.32 and had been forwarded immediately to the insurance company. Council acknowledged receipt of the claim. The meeting adjourned to Executive Session at 10:45 p.m. IRENE VARNEY MORAN, Cit Clerk July 6, 1976 ROLL CALL • The regular.meeting of Harve Harrison in the present. APPROVAL OF MINUTES the Edmonds City Council was called to order. at 7:30.p.m. by Mayor Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center with all Councilmen Minutes of the regular meeting of June 29, 1976 had been posted, mailed and distributed, and with no corrections or omissions they were approved as written. COUNCIL PARTICIPATION Councilman No.rdquist mentioned a Superior Court ruling against the City of-.Lynnwood"_.because Councilman Becker viewed a piece of property prior to a hearing. Councilman Nordquist asked that city. Attorney. John Wallace review the interpretation for the Council at a future work MOTION: meeting. A MOTION WAS THEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, THAT THIS ITEM BE SET FOR THE JULY 13 MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Gelleitt suggested that the personnel matter to be discussed in Executive Session this evening be discussed instead at a dinner meeting when more time could be given it. A dinner meeting -was set for 6:30 p.m., July.7, at the Pancake Haus. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION Norma Bruns, 816 Walnut, expressed her concerns regarding the appointments to boards and commis§sions in the City. She said she would like to see the Council make some statements regarding the make-up of. boards and commissions. She pointed out that in the recent appoint- ments to the Board of Adjustment and Amenities Design Board there had.been no women appointed, and that it appeared that typical male groups and typical female groups were being established. She noted that there are two women on the Planning Commission, but that the Board of Adjust- ment was all men, the Amenities Design Board has one woman, the Park Board has one woman, and the 0