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Councilman Clement commended the Staff for finding such areas as the Public Works parking lot
for parking and said he felt the public should be alerted to the fact that such is available.
The Public Works Department will report on this.matter on a continuing basis.
There was no further business to come before the Council, and the meeting was adjourned at
11:00 P.M.
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IRENE'VARNEY=MORAN, C' y Clerk HARVE H. HARRISON, Mayor
Apri 1 • 3,. 1979
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Mayor Harve
Harrison in the Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center. All present joined in the flag
salute.
PRESENT ABSENT STAFF PRESENT V
Harve Harrison, Mayor Phil Clement Charles Dibble, M.A.A.
Mike Herb Leif Larson, Public Works Director
Katherine Allen John LaTourel1e, Community Devel. Dir.
John Nordquist Irene Varney Moran,- City Clerk
Ray Gould Jim Adams, Assistant City Engineer
Tom Carns Jim Jessel, Parks & Recreation Manager
Larry Naughten Gary McComas, Fire Marshal
Mary Lou Block, Asst. City Planner
John Wallace, City•Attorney
Wayne Tanaka, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk
CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION: COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, TO APPROVE.THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MOTION CARRIED. The Consent Agenda included -the following:
(A) Roll call.
(B) Approval of Minutes of March 27, 1979.
(C) Acceptance of rehabilitation and preservation of Edmonds Carnegie
Library and establish 30-day lien period.
(D) Authorization for Mayor to sign Right of First Refusal for Joint Port/City Parking
Lot.
(E) Passage of Resolution-431, allowing issuance of Building Permits for alterations to
.existing dwelling units in Meadowdale moratorium -area.
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Councilwoman Allen reported that she had attended a data processing workshop and had some ideas
on costs and different proposals which she would like to discuss at a later date.
Councilman Gould reported that the retreat agenda should be available next week.
Councilman Naughten said he had read a newspaper editorial saying there -were no trash containers
on the new fishing pier and -no control of. animals.. Parks & Recreation Manager Jim Jessel
responded that the City -Attorney had been requested to consider the drafting of an ordinance
restricting animals and wheeled vehicles from -the fishing pier. He.said temporary trash receptacles
had been placed on the pier until the permanent ones are furnished.by the contractor.
Councilman Nordquist noted that a petition had been received protesting the Meadowmere development
'COUNCILMAN•NORDQUIST
MOTION: in Lynnwood. MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, THAT THE PETITION
PROTESTING THE MEADOWMERE.DEVELOPMENT BE REFERRED TO THE STAFF FOR INVESTIGATION AND RECOMMENDATION,
AND THAT THE STAFF REPORT TO THE COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER AT THE APRIL 17, 1979 MEETING. MOTION
CARRIED.
MAYOR
Mayor Harrison referred to a memorandum from the Public Works Director regarding the Strickland
property. He said the Stricklands had requested that the City install the side sewer from
their home to the main line in exchange for an easement they granted over their property for a
lift.station.and gravity line. Mayor Harrison commented that the City has been servicing that
lift'station.by traveling over their
property to get to it. He felt the City had an obligation
to compensate the Stricklands for the use of that site for the lift station as
wel•1 as some
compensation for the easement for the line. He recommended the City provide the sewer connection
MOTION: but not the maintenance of the
side sewer. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED., SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
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GOULD, THAT THE SANITARY SEWER SERVICE TO THE STRICKLAND PROPERTY BE CONSIDERED AT THE APRIL 24, 1079
COUNCIL MEETING. MOTION CARRIED.
HEARING ON R.C. RESOLUTION 615 RECOMMENDING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR CHURCH AND
GYMNASIUM AT 7TH AVE. N. AND ALOHA.ST. File CU-2-79
Councilman Herb stated that he attends the Holy Rosary Church, and he had been present at the last Planning
Commission hearing on this because he was..the Ex Officio Council member for that meeting. He had given
testimony at that meeting but had prefaced it with the statement that he would not vote or participate in
the hearing on this matter. Councilman Herb then left the rostrum. Assistant City Planner Mary Lou
Block said the reason this application for a Conditional Use Permit had gone to the Planning Commission
and.now to the Council was that it was for an institutional use. She said there were three criteria the
Council must address in addition .to other relevant factors: (1) Whether the proposed use will be
in harmony with adjoining land uses;.(2) Whether screening will be provided to insure the privacy of
adjoining property owners; and (3) Whether provisions are made to insure safe pedestrian and vehicular
access to and from the site. She showed slides of the site, noting that all residential uses surround
the property —At the present time there is a convent, a rectory, and a school building on the site,
and the proposed use generally exists on a smaller scale. Ms. Block said the Community Development
Department had never received any complaints about the existing school or its activities. The plans
will have to go to the ADB for approval. Access will be through the applicant's property.only. The
proposal had two lengthy hearings at the Planning Commission (on January 24, 1979 and March 149
.1979) and minutes of those meetings had been provided to the Council. Ms. Block said the Planning
Staff recommended approval of the proposal for the following reasons: (1) The proposal is an
extension,of an existing use on the property which has existed for many years and has not generated
complaints from -neighboring property owners; (2) The movement of the congregation from the present
.church at 7th.and Daley should reduce the on -street parking i-n the area with the increased off-
street parking facilities which will be provided on this site; (3) The proposed use'is surrounded
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on three sides.by existing streets or City right-of-way and screening should be readily possible;
'(4) The applicant is proposing good pedestrian and,interior traffic circulation; and (5) A finding
was made.of no substantial adverse environmental impact if the project is developed as proposed and
as conditioned .by the City. The Staff's recommendation for approval was conditioned upon requirements
that the applicant: (1) Provide a sidewalk along 7th Ave. N.. in accordance with Engineering requirements;
(2) Officially waive the.right to protest to an LID proposal for the improvement of 8th Ave. N., if
such a proposal ever is made; and (3) Provide 6' tall screening to the east and south along the
parking area and the building facades, subject to ADB approval. Ms. Block reviewed the Planning
Commission hearings.on this matter, noting that an extensive traffic study was conducted by Straam
Engineers, Inc. The proposal had been approved by the Planning Commission, with two stipulations --
that a 45' greenbelt be maintained between the south property line and the parking lot, and that
lighting in the parking lot be controlled to go on one-half hour after sunset and go off no'later
than one-half hour after termination of activities at the site.except for a security light. Ms.
Block was questioned about the sidewalk along 7th*Ave. N. which the Staff was requiring and she
demonstrated on a map the location of that sidewalk which would.not be all on one side of the street.
Regarding the water drainage/retention, Assistant City Engineer.Jim Adams said a drainage plan had
not yet been received but they could meet the drainage ordinance requirements with either an underground
facility or a surface facility. He pointed out that they would only have to assure that there would
be no increase in runoff after the development over that which existed before the development. The
public portion of the hearing was opened.
A!;Bumgardner, senior partner in.the Bumgardner Partnership,.'architects for the.development, introduced
Alan Grainer, project architect; Ken.Cottingham, traffic engineer from Straam Engineers, Inc.; and
Harold Hopper, Chairman of the Long -Range Planning Committee for. the Holy Rosary Church; each of
whom made presentations. Mr. Bumgardner said they had made every effort to comply with all of the
recommendations from the Planning.Staff and the Planning Commission. Alan Grainger gave a slide
presentation, describing the proposal and the implementation of the changes made as a result of the
Planning Commission hearings. He said they plan to use a surface water retention system. An area
will be provided to hold back the water so it is controlled and allowed to flow off the property at
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a controlled rate which the existing facilities can accept... Public Works Director Leif Larson said
that is an acceptable manner of retention. He commented that underground retention is more difficult
`tomaintain and that the described ponding method is more economical and -does -the job. Ken Cottingham
said he had conducted a traffic study on March 4,.1979. 1His study had to be limited to the one day
because of the time limitation imposed. He discussed.the results of the study which he had discussed
in more detail. with the Planning Commission and a written report.had'been furnished the Planning
Commission. He noted that with the proposal no parking would be:required on the street, although
some people would park there by preference. He said the'present-lighting creates considerable glare
and he recommended it be removedand be replaced with 18' mounts with flat plane glass and sharp
cutoff -fixture. He noted that along the east border there are some existing yard type lights which
he recommended be removed. He said the greatest traffic problem'had been in the loading and unloading
in front of the church so by having the church on the site and off the street the safety -would be "
increased. Harold Hopper said the Holy Rosary Church has 1,150 Edmonds families as members. He
said they -need more capacity, that -at times some people have to leave because fire codes prevent
them from.staying. He said their current gymnasium.is not.of..regulation size, and they need one of
regulation size even for elementary schoolchildren. Don Schroeder of 528 8th Ave. N. urged denial
of the application... He felt they.were.asking to put too much.on the site and that the neighborhood
would be very much adversely impacted. He felt the traffic study.was inadequate and compared it to
a study he had.made with more adverse results. He spoke to the problems of the parking lot and the
lighting, reiterating much --of what he had discussed at the. Planning Commission hearings. He questioned
the -statement that no complaints had been.made with regard to the existing use, saying.they would.
have been made to the police and the church, not'to the Planning Department. He asked for an Environmental
Impact Statement,'saying the whole project was not in harmony with the neighborhood, and he suggested
that if a gymnasium were needed it should be built on the church property next to the City playfield
which is zoned RMH. He showed slides to demonstrate the.current drainage problems and the effect of
the parking lot. Forrest Walls of 831.Daley also spoke in opposition, disagreeing with the.Planning
Department's view that that there.would be no significant adverse impact.on the neighborhood streets.
He felt the existing church building would undoubtedly be sold to another church, further impacting
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the street traffic. He also felt that additional access would be needed on 8th Ave.,
impacting that street. His home looks onto the parking lot and the proposed buildings
which he felt would be out of scale with the neighborhood. He felt the lighting would
impact the adjacent properties and that the number of cars would increase the air pollution.
He said this was not just a little church, but was a large church with_a large gymnasium, a large
school, and a large .parking lot. He felt many shopping centers were smaller than this and had less
impact, and he did not see how the Council could find this proposal in harmony with the neighborhood.
Charles Ehlert, an attorney with the firm.of Smith, Brucker, Winn & Ehlert, 1411 4th Ave., Seattle,
was representing the Walls, Schroeder, and Glenwood families, and also spoke in opposition to the
proposal, submitting a letter outlining the opposition on the basis that the Edmonds Zoning Code
requirements were not being met and that an Environmental Impact Statement should be required: He
said residential uses are primary in RS zones and secondary uses are permitted only if they will not
jeopardize the residential character of.the neighborhood. Community Development Director John
LaTourelle responded to this statement.later, advising that public and institutional uses are
primary uses in the RS zones, and he read from the Zoning Code the section stating that. City
Attorney John Wallace spoke to the suggestion that an EIS should be -required, saying the Council had
designated the Community Development Director or his designee to make a review. He said a determination
must be made as to whether or not, with all the self-imposed standards, that project will have a
substantial adverse impact on the environment. He said the guidelines were in the Environmental
Checklist as adopted by the Washington Administrative Code, which is used by the Community Development
Department in their review.. The test in reviewing their decision.as to whether or not SEPA has been
properly implemented is what is called a clearly erroneous test from all of the facts available and
if the review court can reach no other conclusion but that an EIS is required then it is, but if
there is a legitimate tossup as to whether or not it should be required the administrative decision
will be accorded in favor of not requiring the EIS. Mr. Wallace advised the Council that if -they
disagreed with the Staff recommendation they could require further environmental review or a complete
EIS. Mr. Ehlert responded that he believed the case law had set the burden of proof on the City.
Dick*Van Hollebeke of 580 Hemlock said he had been involved in much of the discussion. and planning
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for this proposal and he spoke in favor'of it. He said nearly all.of the activities which will take
place there currently take place on the site with the exception of the Mass schedule. He said there
had been a question as to why the gymnasium was not upgraded instead of building a new one, and that
was the first thing they had asked themselves, but the present gymnasium is not in compliance with
the legal standards for the CYO League in which the children participate. He said it primarily will
be used for practice purposes and for a brief basketball season in.which the grade school children .
participate. He said anew impact will not be created. He said they would not be drawing from a
larger geographic area because of the increase incapacity, because parish boundaries are already
drawn. He said the street trees on 7th and on Aloha will be Norway Maple and the species proposed
is normally used for street trees as the lower branches do not obstruct vision but present an openwork
pattern and the upper branches have the .foliage and provide the screening. He felt the use of a
church.in a neighborhood was totally proper. Robert Glenwood of 759 Daley was opposed to the proposal.
He said his main concern, outside of the -extensiveness of the development, was that there were too
many subjective matters and there was no recourse. He felt the requirements the Planning Commission
had made were a weak compromise: Robert Carter of 808 Daley spoke in favor of the project. He said
he had lived on Daley St. longer than anyone and some of the statements made this evening regarding
drainage were not correct. He said there had been a bog in the 8th Ave. area years ago which the
City, had filled to control the drainage so the church development had not created the drainage
problem. Further, that over the years many children had gone down his driveway going to the junior
high and elementary schools and there was a lot more trouble from the junior high school than from
this -grade school. He said these children are well behaved and out ofthe traffic and cause no
problems. The public portion of the hearing was then closed.
Mr. LaTourelle was asked about the impact of the lighting. He responded that when they file a
declaration of nonsignificant.adverse impact that does not mean they ,feel. there will not be any
adverse impact, but in this case they feel the impacts--includingglare--will be moderate. He said
the designers had gone to extensive lengths to -mitigate the problem. He felt very strongly that a
formal EIS at this time would not bring forth any more useful information than they had before them. •
He felt there had been excellent testimony from both sides and an excellent traffic analysis. He
said if the present church were sold to another church that church also would be subject to approval
of a Conditional Use Permit. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A
CHURCH AND GYMNASIUM AT 7TH AVE. N. AND ALOHA ST., PURSUANT TO P.C. RESOLUTION 615, BASED ON THE
FOLLOWING: THAT THE PROPOSED USE WAS IN HARMONY WITH THE.ADJOINING LAND USES; THAT SCREENING WILL
BE PROVIDED TO INSURE THE PRIVACY OF ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS; THAT PROVISIONS WERE MADE TO INSURE
SAFE PEDESTRIAN AND.VEHI.CULAR ACCESS TO.AND FROM THE SITE. FURTHER,.THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
WILL BE GRANTED SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL BY THE APPLICANT OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: THAT A SIDEWALK
WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT ALONG 7TH AVE. N. IN ACCORDANCE.WITH ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS;
THAT THE APPLICANT WILL OFFICIALLY WAIVE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST TO AN LID -PROPOSAL FOR THE IMPROVEMENT
OF 8TH AVE. N., IF SUCH A PROPOSAL EVER IS MADE; AND THAT THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE 6' TALL SCREENING
TO THE EAST AND SOUTH ALONG THE PARKING AREA AND THE BUILDING FACADES, SUBJECT TO ADB APPROVAL.
COUNCILMAN ALLEN SECONDED THE MOTION, SAYING THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF. AN EXISTING USE ON THE PROPERTY
WHICH HAS EXISTED FOR MANY YEARS. Councilman.Carns..then spoke in favor of his motion, saying he
felt the value of the surrounding property would probably increase because one of the selling points
for homes is to.be near a church, especially a. Catholic church which provides many facilities
others do not have. Henoted that this.is the onll/ elementary school -in downtown Edmonds and is a
needed use. He felt a better gymnasium would be advantageous to the -community. He said people
often say they are in favor of facilities for the children, but now people have said put them
somewhere else: With regard to traffic safety,.he..felt that putting the cars in a parking lot off
of the City streets was advantageous.to.the community. He felt this proposal would cause no significant
adverse environmental impacts. Councilman Nordquist asked if 10' would have to be dedicated to the
City on 8th Ave. and Public Works Director Leif Larson responded that the former 60' right-of-way
requirement had.been changed to 50' so that would not be required. Councilman Gould spoke in favor
of the motion. He felt the pedestrian and vehicular traffic had been adequately spoken to and that
screening, would be provided that would take care of privacy for adjoining property owners; also,
that the proposed use would be in harmony with adjoining land uses and that the proposal was consistent
with the Comprehensive Plan which calls for community facilities, and he considered this to be a
community facility. He said he and Councilwoman Allen have been involved in the Juvenile Code and
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they really see a need for this kind of facility...,.He.was convinced that this was a part of what Edmonds
needs to be, and that this was a facility that was needed. Mayor Harrison said he understood the
people's concerns who were objecting to the large parking lot.immediately adjoining their properties
,and he asked if it might not be acceptable to the church to add some trees in that parking area,
which might eliminate 10 parking stalls but would soften the effect. Mr. Bumgardner responded that
they were trying to provide a clear play space. City Attorney John Wallace then advised that a
.,motion was on the floor and public input was not allowable.unless the public hearing were reopened.
Mr. LaTourelle said this project had yet to go to the ADB and and.the Mayor's suggestion would be
considered at that time. THE MOTION THEN CARRIED. Councilman Herb returned to the rostrum, and a
short recess was announced.
REPORT.ON.IRISH.ACRES SETBACK PROBLEM
John Owen of 18508 90th Ave. W. said he had met with Mr. King of Irish Acres and Mr. King agreed to
move the problem house to a 19' setback. Mr. Owen thanked the. Council for their help in this matter.
MOTION: COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, THAT MR. KING BE SENT A LETTER TO ,THANK HIM
FOR HIS COOPERATION. MOTION CARRIED.
RECOMMENDATION ON SELECTION OF ARCHITECT FOR EDMONDS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Community Development Director John LaTourelle submitted a report regarding the Edmonds Elementary
Building:Committee's March 21, 1979 meeting, at which time they reviewed four consulting firms for.
this project. All were interviewed and the Committee recommended the firm of Arai/Jackson to be the
design consultant. They have had many community center projects, as well as a rehabilitation of the.
100,-000 sq.. ft..Bush Hotel into a community center. Councilman Carns noted that the Committee
MOTION:. members ,were almost unanimous in.this selection. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
NORDQUIST,.TO ACCEPT THE REPORT AND THAT THE FIRM OF ARAI/JACKSON BE SELECTED AS THE DESIGN CONSULTANT
;FOR THE EDMONDS .ELEMENTARY SCHOOL REHABILITATION. Councilman Gould commented that this would be an
outstanding architectural firm to work on this and he heartily concurred in the recommendation. THE
MOTION CARRIED.
MOTION:
REPORT FROM.F.IRE CHIEF ON VOLATI.LE.CHEMICALS USED .BY BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN EDMONDS
A detailed -report was submitted by.Fire Chief Jack Cooper. Fire Marshal Gary McComas was present to
discuss.this.item. He said the.Fire Department is aware of the hazardous materials being used and
he noted that they are stored in small amounts. He said they have recommendations to improve the
storage and handling and that the. Fire Department has been trained in dealing with fires that might
occur at the locations of these materials. Councilman Gould inquired whether the businesses using
these materials.were handling them in compliance with the regulations of WISHA AND OSHA. Mr. McComas
.responded that.the businesses were: in existence prior to the establishment of those standards and to
make them comply would be to put them out of business, and thi.s was recognized by the Federal
government. He said his department had worked with them to.reduce the level of danger and although
they are-not.in:full compliance they have a program of compliance. Councilman Carns, who had brought
this matter,up.for discussion, felt that 20 gallons at one location and 40 gallons at another was
not a small quantity of methyl ethyl keytone peroxide. He said the National Fire Protection Association
states.that.storage of this material should be in cool, ventilated, detached, noncombustible buildings
with noncombustible floors and that large quantities should be protected by sprinkler systems, and
the firefighter he had discussed this with said if they were to allow such storage in his city it
would have to.be underground and no more than one gallon pumped.up at a time. Councilwoman Allen
said she had discussed this with some chemists and engineers andthey felt the storage was more than
adequate... She agreed that the material was dangerous but said the Fire Department is aware of its
existence and if the alternative-,wasto ask the users to leave the City -and go somewhere in they,
middle of nowhere, that was not practical. Mayor Harrison asked -'whether the Fire Rating Bureau had
given the City any deficiencies for these buildings, and Mr. McComas said he did not believe so but
he cou.ld,not say for sure. He was asked: his recommendation.and he said he tries to provide a good
level of .protection and yet not put people.out of business. He felt they `had made progress with
these businesses and although they are hazardous there are many.other hazards equal to this kind of
problem. He said it is his job to make,a good professional effort to make them as safe as possible.
He said..the material at Marvel Marble is being stored in an approved manner and although the House
of Marble is.not in total compliance.they are working towards it, and his department is working with
them to increase safety. Councilman:Gould.commented that the reason he asked if WISHA and OSHA were
being complied with was because he felt when it came to the concerns of things that can explode he
felt other sources of information were needed. Councilman Carns said he did not wish to move anyone
out of town, but he felt the situation should be made as less dangerous as possible. Councilman
Nordqui:s.t asked how an emergency would.be handled when firefighters from other cities would be
involved -in an emergency, and Mr. McComas.said the senior firefighter from the City with the emergency
would beiin charge and direct the firefighting. He said they have ongoing training that emphasizes
this kind.of problem. Councilman Naughten.said the problem had been brought to the Fire Department's
attention and a full report had been provided, but he would:.like to see a report at a future date to
see how.the House of Marble is.improv.ing.its storage. COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
NORDQUIST,.THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.PROVIDE A REPORT ON JUNE 26, 1979 REGARDING THE IMPROVEMENT OF
STORAGE.OF.DANGEROUS MATERIALS BY THE.HOUSE.OF MARBLE. MOTION CARRIED.
DISCUSSION....ON.STATE RIGHT-OF-WAY-INFORMATION.AND DESIGN FOR,.196TH.ST. S.W.
Public Works Director Leif Larson said the Council had requested that 196th St. be staked to show
the 50' right-of-way if all the right-of-way were taken from the north, if all were taken from the
south, and if 5' were taken from.each side. He noted that on Caspers St. between 3rd and 7th a
number of improvements extended into the right-of-way such as fences, trees, etc. He said the
minimum acquisition would be at the intersection of 7th and Ca-spers at the southeast corner and
there is a 15' deficiency. The Council had approved a 50.' right-of-way from llth to 9th with a 36'
roadway curb to curb, one holding lane and two moving lanes,.with a sidewalk on the north and west
sides. The Council had examined the.staking prior to this -evening's meeting. Councilman Naughten
felt it would be the most equitable if -the 10' right-of-way from 11th to 9th were taken 5' from each
side, rather than all from one side. Councilman�Carns said he had made the motion and it had been
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his intent that the taking of property for right-of-way would be equal from both sides.. COUNCILMAN
CARNS THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN, THAT OF THE 10' OF RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT MUST BE
TAKEN IN ORDER TO FINISH THE ROAD, 5' WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE NORTH.AND..5' FROM THE SOUTH AND NOT 10'
FROM ONE SIDE. Councilman Gould felt that would be equitable. Councilman Herb noted that even with
5' taken many trees and hedges will have to be eliminated. He noted that the State officials were
not present. Councilman Gould said three members of the State Highway Department were here earlier
but had returned to Olympia, but they had said if the Council did not.want 10' taken from one side,
or if they wanted.5' from one side and..5' from the other, they should .just write the Highway Depart-
ment and they wouldtake care of it. THE MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Herb asked about drainage
improvements at the foot of the park where the stream commences. Mr. Larson said the calculated
increase in runoff from this street improvement had been 1.2% so the State did not intend to include
drainage improvements. He said there were interim things that could be done pending the final
overall City study, but their efforts presently were being directed to the Meadowdale area and next
would be Shellabarger Creek. He proposed that -this area should then be next for study. Natalie
Shippen of.1022 Euclid asked if there was'a final design for this improvement on which -the citizens
could comment. After discussion, it was determined that the State.Highway Commission should be
contacted and be advised that the City would like to have a final review of Phase 2-from 88th to
llth because there are a number of questions relating to drainage, etc. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN, THAT A HEARING ON THE FINAL DESIGN REVIEW OF PHASE 2 OF THE 196TH
ST. IMPROVEMENT BE SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 17, 1979. (The motion was first made to April 24 and then
changed -to April 17.) MOTION CARRIED. Roger Hertrich of 1020 Puget Dr. said many people have
concerns about this project. -He said he had spoken to Trent Miller., the Assistant Project Engineer,
who had shown him the drainage plan and.there was no holding pond shown. Mr. Miller had indicated
there would-be a.pipe,picking up water along the roadway and carrying it to the creek, and it,would
take all the water from 84th and down the canyon. Mr. Hertrich.said.that would provide no way for
it to, seep slowly into the ground. He said they had designed-the.drainage for only the section
going out.to bid but had not addressed the drainage for the rest of the project. He had written a
letter listing items of concern and asked that they be studied. Councilman Carns cautioned that at
the April 17 hearing they should try to.limit-the discussion to the preliminary approval granted by
the Council, seeing to it that the State is following the Council's guidelines, and not get off on
tangents. Mr. Her.trich agreed that was reasonable, but he felt the other things should be placed on
agendas as the project goes along. Wilbur Brock of 840 Hindley Lane felt the drainage should be
addressed now and not in the future because as more improvements go in, the situation becomes worse.
UPDATE ON FERRY PARKING PROBLEMS
Public Works Director Leif Larson said the Public Works parking lot .had been made available to Port
Townsend travelers last.weekend, and it was still full today. He.said travel to Port Townsend last
weekend had been considerably less than.in the -past, however. Also, Secretary of Transportation
Bulley had indicated they will .be investigating the parking problem created by walk-on passengers.
Mr. Larson also said he had been contacted by Sunset magazine and they will be writing an article
about the ferry trip to Port Townsend, probably to be published in .June, and the article said there
was plenty of parking next to the ferry terminal. He will respond tothe letter.
There was no further business to come. before the Council, and the meeting was adjourned at 11:00
p.m.
IRENE VARNEY MORAN, Pty Clerk
April 10, 1979 - Work Meeting
HARVE H..HARRISON, Mayor
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The regular meeting of
the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Mayor Harve
Harrison in the Council
Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center. All present joined in the flag salute.
PRESENT
STAFF PRESENT
Harve Harrison, Mayor
Charles Dibble, M.A.A.
Mike Herb
Leif Larson, Public Works Director
Katherine Allen
John LaTourelle, Community Development Director
Phil Clement
Art Housler, Finance Director
John Nordquist
Marlo Foster, Police Chief
Ray Gould
Fred Herzberg, City Engineer
Tom Carns
Jim Jessel, Parks & Recreation Manager
Larry Naughten
Jack Lewis, Purchasing Agent
Wayne Tanaka, City Attorney
John Wallace, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk
CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION: Items (D), (E), and (G)
were removed from .the Consent Agenda. COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN.NAUGHTEN, TO
APPROVE THE.BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The approved
portion of_.the Consent
Agenda included the following:
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