19790730 City Council MinutesJuly 30, 1979 -
Work Meeting
The regular meeting
of the.Edmonds City
Council was, called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Mayor Harve Harrison
in the Council
Chambers of the Edmonds
Civic Center. All present joined in the flag salute.
PRESENT
ABSENT
STAFF PRESENT
Harve Harrison,
Mayor Ray Gould
Charles Dibble, M.A.A.
Mike Herb
Leif Larson, Public Works Director
Bill Kasper
Mary.Lou.Block, Acting Commun. Devel. Dir.
Katheri.ne Allen
Fred Herzberg, City Engineer
John Nordquist
Dan Prinz, Acting Police Chief
Tom Carns
Irene Varney Moran, City Clerk
Larry Naughten
Jim Jessel., Parks & Recreation Manager
Bob Franklin, Technical Studies Engineer
Wayne Tanaka, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk
CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION: COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION
CARRIED. The Consent Agenda included the following:
(A) Roll call.
.(B) Approval of Minutes of July 24, 1979.
(C) Set date of September 18, 1979 for hearing on petition for annexation of
• area in vicinity of 76th W., north of 210th.
(D) Adoption of Resolution 447, commending Leif Larson.
(E) Proposed ordinance setting forth traffic restrictions on Sunset Ave. and
3rd Ave. (This was adopted.but later in the evening reconsidered and set
for further consideration on August 14, 1979.)
(F). Adoption of Ordinance 2083 regarding the prohibition of abandonment of junk
motor vehicles.
(G) Acknowledgment of receipt of Claim for Damages from Abdulaziz Albutain in
the amount of $205.
MAYOR
Mayor Harrison advised that the City had received from the Union Oil Company a notice to commence
annexation proceedings. He suggested a meeting with the proponents on August 14, 1979. COUNCILMAN
MOTION: HERB MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, TO PLACE ON THE AUGUST 14, 1979 AGENDA A MEETING WITH
THE PROPONENTS OF THE UNION OIL COMPANY PROPERTY ANNEXATION. MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Harrison invited Jim Mueller of 209 Caspers to speak regarding a concern with the ordinance
placing traffic restrictions on Sunset Ave. Mr. Mueller stated that the requirement in the ordinance
to make Caspers one way between 2nd.and 3rd would be detrimental to the residents of Cary Rd. and
Hannah Park (approximately 34 homes) in -that it would add 3/4 mile to their trips in and out of
their homes. He said none of those residents were aware that this was intended and he asked for
MOTION: reconsideration. COUNCILMAN HERB MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN, TO RECONSIDER ON AUGUST
14, 1979 THE ORDINANCE PASSED ON THIS EVENING'S CONSENT AGENDA WHICH SET FORTH TRAFFIC RESTRICTIONS
* RELATING TO'SUNSET AVE. AND 3RD AVE. Councilman Carns said he would vote against the motion because
• they may as well discontinue work meetings if they were going to allow public input. THE MOTION
CARRIED WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS CARNS AND ALLEN VOTING NO.
REPORT FROM.PARK BOARD RE SEAVIEW PARK
Park Board Chairman Karen Columbro reported that the problems were discussed at the June Park Board
meeting to which Seaview Park.neighbors had been invited. A task force was established which met
July 18. A task force had also been set up among the Mathay-Ballinger Park neighbors, which will be
reported on at a later date. Mrs. Columbro read the recommendations which the task force had made •r°
regarding Seaview Park. A number of people in the audience objected to those recommendations.
Those who identified themselves were Earl LaFond of 18227 80th Ave. W. and Mrs. Barton Smith of
18208 80th Ave. W. These neighbors felt the problems at the park were insignificant and the complaints
had come from a small number of people who were not actually involved with the park activities.
They felt the restrictions now on the park had in effect phased the people out of the park. They
said they were unable to use the park for a neighborhood picnic because the restrooms were closed
and that people seldom were seen at the park anymore. They also stated none of them had seen any
posting of the meeting which had .been held. Parks and Recreation Manager Jim Jessel suggested that
these people be invited to the next Park Board meeting to discuss the matter. It was agreed that
the next meeting would be held in the park on August 15, 1979, at 7:30 p.m. Further, that the park
restrooms.would be opened during the day until that meeting.
SEMI-ANNUAL REPORT FROM BOARDS AND.COMMISSIONS
Because of the inordinate amount of public testimony heard at this, a work meeting, Councilwoman
Allen asked that only Board and Commission members be heard for.this item.'Mayor , 'Ha .rrison read a
letter from the-ADB Chairman, Chauncey Wight, in which he stated the Council:.had'not exhibited
confidence in critical decisions made by the ADB and had overruled each decision which had been
appealed. In view of this, Mr. Wight suggested that the ADB be abolished and either the Council or
the Planning Staff conduct the reviews. He suggested that the Planning Staff could conduct the
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MOTION:
reviews and any appeal could go to the Council, and that would expedite the items. To reinforce his
recommendation, he tendered his resignation.from the ADB. His letter.and his action were prompted
by the Council's action last week in reversing the ADB's approval of the Bayside Furniture proposed
structure. Councilman Herb felt these views should be fed into. Felix Reisner's project, and he
noted that it had been intended that the ADB be retained when some of the other boards were phased
out for a Hearing Examiner. COUNCILMAN HERB MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN, THAT THE -ROLE
OF THE ADB BE INCLUDED IN THE AUGUST 14 REVIEW OF TITLE 20. MOTION CARRIED. Ken Mattson, a member
of the ADB, said the"ADB had asked for guidelines in the past and the Council had responded that
they were the experts and to .develop their own guidelines, but then when 10 or more -people appear
for an, appeal hearing their decisions are overturned. He charged that the Council is swayed by
organized groups. Mr..Mattson added that the ADB had considered a resignation en manse, but they
decided"i't would not be fair to the people already scheduled for hearings. He felt the recent
reversal of the ADB approval of Bayside Furniture had not been made on the merits of the project,
but only because of public pressure, and he -felt if building height were going to be limited to 25'
then the ordinances should so state, but they presently state 35'. Mr. Mattson also read from an
unsigned letter written by a member of the ADB which made some recommendations.
Planning Commission Chairman John McGibbon said a number of the Commission felt there should be nine
members instead of seven to generate more discussion. He then.discussed the planning process and
how policy is developed, and he said that on a number of recent occasions the Council had estab-
lished policy in the wrong manner. He referred to the action regarding the Bayside Furniture
project and said the Council should have instituted proceedings to change the height in that area
after the Magne Hagen decision and that the citizens had the right to know before the fact, rather
than after the fact, what the policies are going to be. He also felt the Planning Commission
should be included in the Council/ADB meeting on September 11 if they were going to be discussing
policy. Mayor Harrison said the Planning Commission would be invited. Councilman Herb asked that •
copies of the letter read by Mr. Mattson and Mr. McGibbon's comments be included with the packet
information for the August 14 meeting.
REPORT ON DRAINAGE PLANS
The Public Works Director provided a report outlining interim work being pursued to alleviate storm
water problems reported prior to and subsequent to the hearing of June 5, 1979. Estimated costs and
current status of each improvement were included. The report stated that subsequent efforts would
address each drainage area as an entire system to provide long-term solutions and to address local
problems which require system -wide solutions. Technical Studies Engineer Bob Franklin has been in
charge of the drainage studies and he was present to discuss the report. Mr. and Mrs. Sonny Hancock
of 1028 Cascade complained that the 18' pipe on their property cannot accommodate the flow from the
24" pipe which feeds into it. Al Bailey of 825 Sprague asked if a performance bond is required on
an EIS, because once an EIS is filed the developer could still cause problems by the way he treats
the site. The drainage report was accepted by the Council.
COUNCIL
MOTION: COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN, THAT THE STAFF BE DIRECTED TO START IMMEDIATE
REZONE PROCEDURES TO REZONE ALL OF THE RMH AND RML TO RMD IN THE AREA BOUNDED ON THE NORTH BY CASPERS
ST., ON THE SOUTH BY PINE ST., ON THE EAST BY 7TH AVE., AND ON THE WEST BY PUGET SOUND. MOTION
CARRIED.
Councilman Car.ns referred to,a letter from -Chet -Bennett regarding the Paine Field air pattern which
MOTION: could go over'Edmonds. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED.BY COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN, THAT THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE BE ASKED TO SEND A COPY OF CHET BENNETT'S LETTER, TOGETHER WITH A LETTER FROM THE CITY, TO
THE AIRPORT COMMISSION AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND ASKING FOR A RESPONSE. MOTION.CARRIED.
MOTION: COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, TO REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION A
REQUEST FOR THE REVIEW OF HEIGHT AND BULK DIMENSIONS FOR ALL ZONES, EXCLUDING THE RMH AND THE RML,
IN THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA DESCRIBED FOR THE RMD ZONE. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilman Nordquist wanted the record to show that he would be willing to listen if Lynnwood were
to ask Edmonds for help regarding their sewage..problems.
Councilman Nordquist distributed copies of a.letter from City Attorney Wayne Tanaka in response to
Councilman Nordquist's question regarding the jurisdiction over Lake Ballinger. COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST
MOTION: MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, THAT THE MAYOR BE REQUESTED TO INSTRUCT THE POLICE CHIEF TO
CALL A MEETING.WITH THE POLICE CHIEF OF MOUNTLAKE TERRACE AND THE COUNTY SHERIFF AND DISCUSS THE
LAKE BALLINGER JURISDICTIONAL PROBLEMS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND TO REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL
DURING SEPTEMBER. MOTION CARRIED'.
Councilman Norquist commented on the fact that Public Works Director Leif Larson was present at the
Council meeting right up to the night before his retirement day.
Councilman Herb said he did not mean any of his comments last week to.be interpreted as criticism of
the Police Department, and he commended.them on the work they had accomplished regarding Sunset Ave.
He said he had only meant to stress that.strict enforcement was necessary.
There was no further.business to come before the Council, and the meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
IRENE VARNEY MORAN,. ity Clerk
HARVEFH. HARRISON, Mayor
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