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September 11, 1979 - Work Meeting •
The regular meeting of -the Edmonds City. Council was called to.order.at 7:40 p.m. by Mayor Harve
Harrison in the Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center — All.present joined in the flag
salute.
PRESENT ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
Harve Harrison, Mayor Ray Gould Charles Dibble, M.A.A.
Mike Herb Fred Herzberg, Public Works Dir.
Bill Kasper John LaTourelle, Commun. Dev. Dir.
Katherine Allen Jack Weinz, Fire Chief
John Nordquist Jim Jessel, Parks & Rec. Mgr.
Tom Carns Irene Varney Moran, City Clerk
Larry Naughten Jim Murphy, City Attorney
Jo Ann Fischer, Recording Secretary
CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION: Item (B) was removed from the Consent Agenda. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
HERB, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The approved portion of
the Consent Agenda included the following:
(A) Roll call.
'(C) Authorization to execute Agreement.with Olympic'View.'Waier'Di'strict.
(D) Setting date of September 25, 1979 for hearing on P.C. Resolution 631, recommending •
approval of proposed Shorelines Management Permit to provide Parking Facility at
Railroad -Ave. and Dayton St. (File SM-5-79)
(E) Adoption of Ordinance 2090, amending Plumbing Code (Chapter 11.12, City Code)
(F) Adoption.of Ordinance 2091, adopting 1976 Edition of Uniform Mechanical Code.
(G) Adoption of Ordinance 2092, adoptiing 1976 Edition of Uniform Housing Code.
(H) Adoption of Ordinance 2093, adopting Uniform Code for the Abatement of
Dangerous Buildings.
(I) Report on Bids opened September 6 for 5th Ave. Sidewalks (SID-1-79).
(J) Authorization for Mayor to sign contracts for Art Commission Mini -Grant and
One Percent for Art Juror Honorariums.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 4, 1979 [Item (B) on Consent Agenda]
Councilman Carns noted that in the minutes of the September 4 Council meeting (page 4, second
MOTION: paragraph) the fourth sentence should be changed to read "the bottom two-thirds." COUNCILMAN
CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 4, 1979 AS
AMENDED. MOTION CARRIED.
MAYOR
Mayor Harrison advi.sed the Council and.audience that the Snohomish County Assessor's Office
predicts that the 1979. assessed valuation.for Edmonds will be $698,461,489. The City is
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authorized to levy a tax to be.collected in 1980 for emergency medical services in an amount up
to $174,600 which is $.25 per $1,000. Mayor Harrison stated that the City Attorney had drawn
up an ordinance to this effect and these figures were to be inserted in the appropriate blanks.
Councilman Carns stated that Mountlake Terrace recently had drawn up an ordinance of this
nature, but the County Auditor's Office had refused to accept their ordinance because the
ballot title was in excess of 20 words. City Attorney Jim Murphy confirmed this and stated
there is a State law which requires that ballot titles be less than 20 words. Mr. Murphy
suggested that the Council pass the ordinance at this meeting and forward it to the Auditor for
his approval, and should the Auditor find a revision necessary the Council could amend the
MOTION: ordinance at the next Council meeting. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED,.SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN,
TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 2094 WITH THE FIGURE OF $174,600 TO BE LEVIED. MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Harrison announced that Tim Leighton will be in his office September 18 prior to the
Council meeting to meet with the City Council. Mayor Harrison was recommending Tim Leighton to
replace Chaucey Wight on the Architectural Design Board.
Mayor Harrison read a memo from M.A.A. Charles Dibble expressing dissatisfaction with.the City
ordinance which forbids the placement of campaign signs in the public right-of-way. Mayor
Harrison said he concurred with Mr. Dibble and he thought it would be appropriate to have the
City Council instruct the City Attorney to change the ordinance so enforcement would not have.
to be necessary. Councilwoman A1,len stated she was not in favor of a change in the.ordinance
as she did not think signs were needed in the public right-of-way. Councilman Nordquist said
there had been an attempt several years ago to clean the City of some of the signs but what was
happening now was traditional, but somewhat distasteful. Councilman Carns stated that he
agreed with Mr. Dibble due to the fact that there probably will be a small voter turnout for
the primary election. His feelings were that anything which could be done to inform the people
that an election is taking place is worthwhile. Councilman Naughten stated that he did not see
any problem with the sign situation. Councilman Herb recommended that this topic be considered
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MOTION: after the upcoming election. COUNCILMAN HERB MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, TO REVIEW THE
SITUATION'OF POLITICAL SIGNS IN PUBLIC RIGHTS -OF -WAY AT THE NOVEMBER 20, 1979 COUNCIL MEETING. MOTION
CARRIED.. Mayor Harrison asked the Council's opinion as to..the enforcement of the ordinance pertaining to
the removal of all -signs which .are.-placed,in the public right-of-way. It was the general concensus that
with only one week to go before the election it would only.be a short time before the signs were removed.
MEETING WITH All AND PLANNING COMMISSION„TO REVIEW POLICY.PLANNING
Those present from the Planning Commission were Chairman John McGibbon and Keith LaBelle. Members
of the Architectural Design Board present were Chairman Warren LaFon, Ken Mattson, David Kinderfather,
and Bob Hintz.
Mr. LaFon stated that when he made.the last ADB report to the City Council he was advised that
members of the Board should make the decisions involving details within their jurisdiction. Mr.
LaFon said. the Board had established.a.workable system until the issue of the Bayside Furniture
application. Since that time he felt inconsistencies had arisen which needed rectifying. He brought
up the question of allowable building heights. Councilman Carns stated he thought this was clarified
when the Council took the action.to.lower the height limit to 25' in all "R" zones. Ken Mattson
asked how they had arrived at a 25' limit. Mr. LaFon stated he felt the ordinance should be changed
rather than allow spot zoning. Councilman.Carns said that perhaps the ordinance could be written in
such a way that if the height limit is 25' the maximum woul.d be allowed. Councilman Herb suggested
that both the ADB and the Council should be totally familiar with the specific findings of all cases
and perhaps a checklist could be developed and used when considering a design. Mr. Kinderfather
pointed out the fact that there is a lot of property in Edmonds which has been bought on a speculative
basis and much of this property -is presently in rundown condition. -He stated .that if the City
reduces the ability to develop that -property to its potential, the value of that property is also
S reduced. He said that action such as that taken in the Bayside Furniture case eliminates the incentive
for businessmen' to improve their properties.
The discussion continued and the subject of guidelines was broached. Mr. LaFon stated that in order
to be consistent there had to be guidelines established to which both the ADB and the Council would
adhere. He stated he felt they should be looking at the future and deciding whether the City is
going to spread out or build upward. Mayor Harrison briefly reviewed the history of Edmonds' zoning
codes. He 'stated that in the years he..had worked with the code there had been a gradual cutting
back as development has increased because of public pressure.. Mayor Harrison stated that the Council
should take a stand wherein anyone who owns property should have the security of knowing what he can
do with that property,.and should be able to design a building within the limitations of the zoning
code and feel secure that he'is buying that much.
The question was brought up as to whether there should be a.change in the ordinance. Community
Developmeht Director John LaTourelle stated he felt the system was not perfect, but it was the best
the City has had so far. He said that from a regulatory standpoint, drafting ordinances and guide-
lines, there wasn't'a considerable amount more that could be done. Councilman Kasper suggested that
there be more remanding before a decision is made. Mr LaTourelle stated that in appeals and reviews
overturning of decisions should be done with caution. He said that in many cases the Council should
hold its hearing, set it aside, and take a complete look at the problems before making a final
decision. Mr. LaTourelle stated that the Staff should provide the Council with a list of ouestions
that are germane to the issue at hand. Mayor Harrison requested a policy statement from the Council
until such time as the process is changed. Councilwoman Allen stated that if a policy were going to
be established she would want time to review it. It was decided that if changes were to take place
they would take place during the entire developmental process. Mr. LaFon stated that for the time
being, normal procedures would be adhered to and that the code would be followed in all cases. He
said that should an individual want to appeal to the City Council he has the right to do so. He
then asked whether the Bayside people could legally resubmit their plan. City Attorney Jim Murphy
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stated that in cases of zoning you cannot resubmit for 180 days according to the ordinance. However,
if Bayside
wanted to resubmit, they could go through the entire approval process again.
REVIEW NUMBER.OF MEMBERS ON PLANNING.COMMISSION
Community Development Director John LaTourelle referred to his memorandum of September 4 wherein he
stated that seven members is the optimum number and five members could be workable. Councilman
Nordquist stated that he felt the Planning Commission should allow for one more seat if the Esperance
area is annexed.to the City, and Councilman Naughten felt there should be two more if that annexation
takes place. Both Councilwoman.Allen and Councilman Carns felt seven members would be sufficient
even if the annexation is accomplished. Planning Commission Chairman John McGibbon said he would
not mind the addition of two members. He said some of the Commission members felt seven members
were not enough. Councilman Naughten recommended that the number remain at seven until such time as
the
annexation may take place, and then increase the number to nine members.
COUNCIL
Councilman Nordquist brought up an issue which he said was of concern to some citizens, regarding a
recent change in the numbering system on 192nd. Mr. and Mrs. Severance and Mr. Swanson were in the
audience to address the'situation. After a discussion
of the situation, City Attorney Jim Murphy
stated that the Official City Map denotes the names of the streets; however, the Building Division
assigns the,house numbers. Mayor Harrison invited the parties 'to meet wi-th him on Wednesday so they
could- resolve the situatfon.
Councilman Nordquist referred to..a memorandum from Finance.Director Art Hous-ler stating that Federal
regulation...requires
that a Proposed.Use Hearing must be held at least seven days before the preliminary
budget is presented to the Council.for consideration. He
MOTION:
suggested this hearing be set for October
2, 1979 during the.regular Council meeting. COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN
ALLEN, TO PLACE THE PROPOSED USE HEARING ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 2, 1979. MOTION CARRIED.
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September 11, 1979 - continued •
Councilman Herb stated that there was great concern over the signal.light at Olympic Ave. and 196th.
This is a school crossing and the PTA had requested that a four-way .red light be installed. Public
Works Director Fred Herzberg stated that the controller at this intersection does not accommodate
a four-way red-light.. He said he had instructed his people to place a "Caution/Pedestrian
MOTION: Crossing". sign on Olympic View for drivers approaching that crossing. COUNCILMAN HERB MOVED,
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN, TO PLACE THIS ITEM ON THE SEPTEMBER 25, 1979 COUNCIL AGENDA.
MOTION CARRIED.
Counci:lman:.Herb;;called the,%Coun.cil's attention to the parking problem on 3rd Ave. from Main to
Pine. Evelyn Jasper of 224 3rd Ave. S. stated that a four-hour parking restriction had just
been placed on 3rd Ave. S. from Main to Pine and she asked why that area had been singled out
and how the City planned to enforce that restriction. She said she is the owner of a five -unit
MOTION: apartment complex on that street. COUNCILMAN HERB MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NAUGHTEN, TO
PLACE THIS ITEM ON THE OCTOBER 2, 1979.000NCIL AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. Mrs. Jasperasked if
the restriction would be enforced in the meantime, and Mayor Harrison stated it is incumbent
upon the administration to enforce the ordinances.
Councilman Naughten said he had received a call stating there still wer.e.no parking restriction
signs placed on Ocean Ave. Mayor Harrison said he would look into this.
There was no further business to come before the Council, and the meeting was adjourned at
9:45 p.m.'
IRENE VARNEY MORAN, Cite Clerk HARV H.:..HARRISON, Mayor
September 18, 1979
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Mayor Harve
Harrison in the Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center. All present joined in the flag salute.
PRESENT
Harve Harrison, Mayor
Mike Herb
Bill Kasper
Katherine Allen
John Nordquist
Tom Carns
Larry Naughten
CONSENT AGENDA
ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
Ray Gould Marlo Foster, Acting M.A.A.
Fred Herzberg, Public Works Director
John LaTourelle, Community Devel. Dir..
Jim Adams, City Engineer
Jack Weinz, Fire Chief
Felix deMello, Bldgs. & Grounds. Supt.
Jim Jessel, Parks & Recreation Mgr.
Bill Nims, Asst. Traffic Engineer
Wayne Tanaka, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk
MOTION: COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION
CARRIED. The Consent Agenda included the following:
MAYOR
(A) Roll call.
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(B) Approval of Minutes of September 11, 1979. •
(C) Amendment to Lynnwood Sewer Diversion Agreement.
Mayor Harrison asked for confirmation of his appointment of Tim Leighton to the ADB. COUNCILMAN
MOTION: CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN, TO CONFIRM THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT OF TIM LEIGHTON TO
POSITION 4 ON THE ADB, TERM TO EXPIRE NOVEMBER 5, 1982. MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Harrison stated that a number of letters had been received complaining about the stop light at
196th and Olympic View Dr. and he read one of the letters which stated that a driver on Olympic View
can proceed with a green light, making.a natural turn into a crosswalk of pedestrians which also
have a green light. Mayor Harrison noted that the Public Works Director now indicated that the
light had been changed to be red both ways during pedestrian crossings and that it may be possible
to have the signal only pedestrian actuated, but that suggestion will require further study.
Councilman Herb complimented the Public Works Department for its expeditious actions in such matters.
AUDIENCE
Mary Duke of 529 3rd.Ave. asked if the 25� per $1,000 assessed valuation emergency medical services
levy would be spent entirely for Medic.7.. Councilman
Carns explained that emergency medical services
consist of more than Medic 7, and include such things as aid
car service and salaries for basic life
support personnel. Councilman Herb said.when.he voted for the assessment it was with the under-
standing that.the total amount would be for Medic 7. Councilman Carns noted that all of the other
South County jurisdictions were asking for the full assessment, supporting both the basic life
support and the advanced life support systems., Patricia Fife of 565.Sater Lane said the excess
money collected from the assessment, over that which will be needed.for Medic 7, can only be used
for emergency medical services and she felt it was important to convey this to the voters. Further,
because the levy will cover
an extended span of time it is very possible that in the latter years it
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