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101 MAIN ST (4).pdfBoardmember Young agreed that because there are other reader boards in the area, and because it is an intrinsic part of a furniture Iiquidating business, he does not have a concern with the application. Boardmembers Goodrick and Pierce agreed with the comments made by the Board. Chairman Oaklief stated he is not concerned about the reader board sign because it is located on an auto -oriented road, and it is located on a commercial strip. MOVED BY BOARDMEMBER .YOUNG, SECONDED BY BOARDMEMBER SULLIVAN, TO APPROVE ADB-96-54 AS SUBMITTED. A FREESTANDING SIGN OF THE DIMENSIONS DESCRIBED BY THE APPLICANT IS AT AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR A FREESTANDING SIGN FOR ADVERTISING THE BUSINESS. THE READER BOARD CONCEPT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMUNITY GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FACT THAT THERE ARE READER BOARD SIGNS IN THE AREA, AND IT IS A STANDARD USED BY THE KINDS OF BUSINESSES REPRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT. MOTION CARRIED. NEW WALL MOUNTED SIGN La Playa Azul 101 Main Street (Final Approval) The Applicant's Representative, Bart Haynes, Amp Art Signs, 12309 15th Avenue NE, Seattle, 98125, was present. Mr. Bissell presented the staff report. He stated the existing building has a sign over the main entrance, and a sign on the east side of the building where the parking area is located. The applicant is proposing to remove the existing sign on the east side of the building and'replace it with a new updated sign. The proposed sign area is 56 square feet and 75.6 square feet is allowed for the entire building. The applicant has stated the existing sign over the main entrance will be reduced in size so that the total sign area of the two signs will equal the 75.6 square feet which is allowed. Mr. Bissell described the sign as having two parts. The top part has a neon tube with an aluminum background; the bottom part is a plastic -faced cabinet sign. He indicated the Board has previously approved some neon signs in the downtown area. Also, the Board has expressed concern with the cabinet type signs in the past for the downtown area. The site is unusual in its proximity to the ferry holding lanes. Mr. Bissell pointed out there is some separation from the downtown area by the proximity to the ferry holding lanes which may be an issue for discussion. The colors include blue neon letters on a white background for the upper portion, and the lower portion is proposed to have blue letters on a yellow background. He indicated the plans show the sign to be located over the allowable height of 14 feet. The applicant will need to mount the sign so that it does not exceed the 14 foot height limit. The Applicant's Representative, Bart Haynes, addressed the Board. He stated the proposal is to provide exposure for the business. Regarding the aluminum background, it will house the electrical components for the neon. The aluminum box will be painted to match the texture coat of the building itself. It will appear that it is a part of the building as opposed to being a box sign. The letters "La Playa Azul" will be painted blue with a green outline. Each letter will be outlined with blue neon. The lower portion of the sign is proposed to have a back -lit face, which will have a more subtle approach. The colors are based on what is currently on the building. Boardmember Goodrick questioned the necessity of bringing the sign on the east side down to 14 feet. The trees that are there are attractive and they camouflage part of the building. The landscaping is more attractive than the building, and they would have to cut the trees in order to see the sign if it is brought down to 14 feet. Mr. Bissell stated in order for the sign to be above 14 feet, the applicant would need to apply for a variance. Responding to Boardmember Young, Mr. Haynes stated they intend to take down the sign over the front entrance which is basically wood letters, and redo the same thing. It will need to be scaled back, but it will be the same configuration. Mr. Haynes described the type of neon to be used. He stated the neon will be equivalent to a 60 watt bulb. It will not be loud or garish. Architectural Design Board Meeting Page 3 May 15,1996 Chairman Oaklief noted there was no one present in the audience, and therefore it was not necessary to open this portion of the meeting to receive comments from the public. Boardmember Young commented he would be supportive of a height variance as well as a bulk sign variance so that it would not be necessary to reduce the sign over the front entrance. Further, the two existing signs were nice when they were first put up and they were consistent with the overall appearance of the building. While the proposal is tasteful, he does not feel it is appropriate on a building that has an Hispanic character. He suggested a subdued neon tubing sign similar to what is currently used by. Provinces on 5th Avenue. This may be more in keeping with the character of the building and the area. Mr. Haynes stated the proposal reflects the logo that is currently being used by the restaurant. It is their letter style, and their colors. Boardmember Sullivan commented he is comfortable with the proposed sign on the east side of the building. He suggested that the east sign as well as the sign over the front entrance could be tied together. He encouraged the Applicant's Representative to speak to the owner and figure out a cohesive plan. Chairman Oaklief asked if the back -lit sign or the cabinet is an issue? Boardmember Sullivan responded no, it is not an issue to him. He is comfortable with the proposed sign; he is uncomfortable with the fact that they are not connected and it does not address the building as a whole. Mr. Haynes suggested the sign over the front entrance use the same color scheme as the sign on the east side. The applicant will not be able to paint the building due to financial reasons. W. Sullivan stated he feels the two signs need to be related. It is a key area of the city. Chairman Oaklief commented he likes the idea of the neon. He suggested making the lettering on the top and bottom the same. He would also like to see the sign over the front entrance match the sign on the east side. Boardmember Pierce stated his only concern about the sign is the balance between brightness and getting the message out. It is located in a somewhat view corridor. Chairman Oaklief stated he is not concerned with the neon; he believes the brightest part will be the lower portion. Mr. Haynes explained how the lighting will be diffused on the lower portion. He also described the subtle neon that will be used; the color will be horizon blue. Boardmember Sullivan suggested having the two signs align in height. He encouraged the Applicant's Representative to consider the sign over the front entrance read only "La Playa Azur'. Mr. Haynes stated the owner of the restaurant has a need to advertise that it is both a restaurant and bar and will want this verbiage on both signs. MOVED BY BOARDMEMBER SULLIVAN, SECONDED BY BOARDMEMBER PIERCE, TO APPROVE ADB-96-63 AS SUBMITTED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: (1) THE SIGN TO BE PLACED ON THE EAST ELEVATION BE HELD TO THE COMMUNITY STANDARD OF NOT TO EXCEED 14 FEET IN HEIGHT; AND (2) THE EXISTING SIGN THAT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OVER THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING BE REDUCED IN AREA SO AS TO CONFORM TO THE ALLOWABLE SIGN AREA OF 75.6 SQUARE FEET, AND THAT IT BE SET AT A 'HEIGHT THAT IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SIGN ON THE EAST ELEVATION. MOTION CARRIED, WITH BOARDMEMBER YOUNG VOTING NO. Boardmember Young stated he voted no because he is concerned that the owner of the sign will have to put the sign at 14 feet in height. He would like to see a motion made that should the applicant apply for a variance and it is granted, that he would not have to come back before the ADB for approval. BOARDMEMBER YOUNG MOVED, SECONDED BY BOARDMEMBER SULLIVAN, TO REOPEN THE HEARING ON ADB-96-63 FOR RECONSIDERATION REGARDING THE BOARD'S POSITION ON THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN. MOTION CARRIED. BOARDMEMBER YOUNG MOVED, SECONDED BY BOARDMEMBER GOODRICK, THAT SHOULD THE APPLICANT FOR ADB-96-63 PURSUE A HEIGHT VARIANCE FOR EITHER THE SIGN ON THE EAST ELEVATION OR THE SOUTH ELEVATION (ONE OR BOTH OF THE SIGNS), AND THE VARIANCE IS GRANTED, THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD Architectural Design Board Meeting Page 4 May 15, 1996 S b DEFER THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE SIGNS TO STAFF.: TGIF MOTION FgTlf{THE VOTE WAS .AS ;FOLLOWS: BOARDMEMBERS: YOUNG AND GOODRICK VOTED, YES; BOARDMEMBERS SULLIVAN AND PIERCE VOTED NO. DUE TO THE TIE, CHAIRMAN OtiKLIEI• VOTED AND HIS VOTE WAS NO.) 7. SCUS ION OF ITEMS APFRM D BY STAFF WITHOUT ADD APPROVAL None. Comments from eta Mr. Bissell distributed newly reprinted copies of the Edmonds Community Development Code to the Board. Mr. Bissell next requested guidance from the Board regarding two issues that have come before him. The fast issue was regarding a cabinet sign in a neighborhood business area. Chairman Oaklief stated in his opinion approval of a cabinet sign in a neighborhood area would depend on how the building works with the street; whether or not the building is set back from the street or not. Boardmember Sullivan commented that if staff is unsure about the placement of a cabinet sign in a neighborhood business area, then approval of that sign should be placed on the Consent Agenda for ADB approval. Another option would be for the staff member to contact the Chair of the Board to discuss whether or not it should come before the ADB. The second issue Mr. Bissell brought forward dealt with landscape changes, specifically regarding reduction in the amount of landscaping at existing businesses. He questioned if staff should make the decision to approve or deny these requests. Boardmember Young commented that if it is a request for reducing landscaping that has been approved by the ADB, the request should be brought forward to the ADB. 8. A]DJ BOARDMEMBER SULLIVAN MOVED, SECONDED BY BOARDMEMBER PIERCE, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 9:05 P.M. MOTION CARRIED. 6. AGENDA FINAL APPROVAL REQUESTED ADB-96-54 NEW Fit MSTANDING SIGN Best Buy Furniture 22800 76th Avenue West ADB-96-63 NEW WALL MOUNTED SIGN La Playa And 101 Main Street PRELIMINARY REVIEW None 77777-7. ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD STAFF REPORT May 10, 1996 AIDB-96=63 REQUEST ANEW WALL MOUNTED SIGN A. AppiicantlProperty Applicant's Representative Raul Gomez Bart Haynes La Playa Azul Amp Art Signs 101 Main Street 12309 15th Ave NE Edmonds, WA 98020 Seattle, WA 98125 1. Site Location: 101 Main Street C. Introduction: The existing wall mounted sign at La Playa Azul is in disrepair. The applicant is proposing to replace that sign with a different type of sign. ID. Staff Analysis: 1. Material: The proposed sign has two material types, found in the top and the bottom The top portion of the sign which contains the words "La Playa Azul" is proposed with neon letters on an aluminum background. The lower portion of the sign which contains the words "Mexican Restaurant and Bar" is proposed to be a plastic faced cabinet sign. 2. Lighting: The lower portion of the sign is proposed to be internally illuminated. The top portion of the sign is proposed to be illuminated with neon tubing. 3. Colors: The applicant is proposing a two-part sign with the upper portion using blue neon letters on a white background, and the lower part using blue letters on a yellow background. 4. Sign Location: The sign is proposed for the southern end of the eastern wall of the building located at 101 Main Street. S. Sign Area and Sign Height: Posed Allowed Sign Area 56 square feet 75.6 square feet Sign Height 14 feet 14 feet Note: The plans submitted by the applicant indicate that there is an existing sign with an area of 48 square feet. This would leave a total sign area greater than the allowed 75.6 square feet. The applicant has stated that the existing sign located on the south side of the building would be altered to conform with the size limitations. It should also be noted that he plans submitted by the nns sus applicant indicate that the top of the proposed sign would be over 14 feet above the ground. The applicant trust alter the proposal so that the sign is not more than 14 feet above the ground. 6. Design Guidelines: The applicant has proposed both exposed neon and an internally illuminated cabinet sign. In the past the Board has expressed concern that this type of sign application may not comply with the design guidelines. Section 20.10.070(A)(2) of the design guidelines state that "colors should avoid excessive brilliance and brightness, except where that would enhance the character of the area." Section 20.10.070(A)(5) states that "all signs should conform to the general design theme of the development." E. Summmy In order to approve this application, the Board must find that the proposal is consistent with the. Design Policies found in the Comprehensive. Plan and the requirements found in the Zoning Ordinance. If the Board chooses to approve this item, Staff recommends the following conditions: Te The height of the sign shall not exceed 14 feet measured from the top of the sign to the ground directly below the sign. 2. The existing sign located on the south side of the building shall be reduced in area to allow the total sign area to conform with the requirements of the Edmonds Community Development Code. The alteration of the sign on the south side of the building shall not change the character, materials, color or 7 type of illumination of said sign. ®: city +I ' fir, z �t ! 1 land use Lcati -an PV ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD ® COMP PLAN AMENDMENT ® CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ® HOME OCCUPATION ® FORMAL SUBDIVISION L3 SHORT SUBDIVISION L3 LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT ® PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ® OFFICIAL STREET MAP AMENDMENT / STREET VACATION ❑ REZONE ® SHORELINE PERMIT ® VARIANCE / REASONABLE USE EXCEPTION ® OTHER FILE # W -C�G-3 ZONE ►�-- DATE 2 6 REC'D BY eft> FEE RECEIPT# HEARING DATE ® HE ® STAFF ® PBJ"DB 13 CC ACTION TAKEN: APPEAL# Applicant �G ,�: �.-ram L Phone 7 :7 Address le7/ Property Address or Location ) Property Owner 2&�Z �L--- Phone :722/--i Address 1,,!!�>/..+ Agent � � Z -Z-4 ` Z--., , . -L2 Phone 3l Address 122a ©q 15.= .4v� ,�✓.� - Gvrd l`^�/.�-5�� Tax Acc # 3/3 L f - ::�!/3 - o e�l l 8 Sec. Twp. Rng. Legal Description ga tiv ; " Details of Projector Proposed Use i,�/ z�A.d✓i�' o�✓62 t The undersigned applicant, and his/ her/ its heirs, and assigns, in consideration of the processing of the application agrees to release, indemnify, defend and hold the City of Edmonds harmless from any and all damages, including reasonable attorney's fees, arising from any action or infraction based in whole or in part upon false, misleading, inaccurate or incomplete information furnished by the applicant, his/ her/ its agents or employees. The undersigned applicant grants his/ her/ its permission for public officials and the staff of the City of Edmonds to enter the subject property for the purpose of inspection and posting attendant to thisafflication. SIGNATURE OF APPLICANT/ OWNER/ TOabeat«gta� canroov w o«m� taco ors a4s r a rmya4ma9Mpeameeo�eeano YrAtmlOm «m®ana4ay4r« o�aam e�nslmoa almtauowemv SPECIFICATIONS: 'Fabricate and single face wall mount $ign displays with overall dimensions to be 4 0 x14'o'. Sign fit, Ito be a combination of exposed neon Copy with painted lettering to read 'LA PLAYA AZUL' using 15mnd3fts glass (double tube - Voltam Blue) painted portion to match Blue S288c and outline to be Green M c. Lower potion of display to be Internally illuminated Pan -Channel pill cabinet to mad'ME)aCAN RESTAURANT & BAR' as depicted in rendering with White background and 3M vhry) applied Tat surface In Blue S230•107. Overall size of pill cabinet to be I r & 14r. Body of pill to be painted some color as cabinet with i' Gold tr mcep to attach taco. Both displays to be Rush mounted to building fascias with one (1) facing South and one (1) facing West. 'Cabinet construction to be of .090 aluminum sidewalk and backing with full Internal angle Iron structure with pointed exterior finish to be White to match buiidhrg exterior. 'Installation to be flush mount to building fascia with OR widnp to be remote within Cabinet area. Included Is the final electrical hook-up to customer provided pourer supply. "FULL TWO (2) YEAR WARRANTY ON ALL PARTS AND LABOR. AIGN & AWNING 12309 • i5ih me. • SUN* WA 98125 - (26e) 3e4.2311 au (toe) 3a4.24aa LA PLAYA AZM A. .'Z Arraovaan, 101 MAIN STRI EDMONDS, WA PERSPECTIVE_ VIEW (nts SOUTH ELEVATION EAST ELEVATION SIGN DISPLAY � y 12'x y' o 0 18iiMaa�,y r is Gantt IM0 anon q b �aoMaus�oeama S /�� g pa,8,pk N t°° 1 **rAaWd 12309.15th N.E. • Scan, WA 98125 • (200) 364.2311 Fax (208) 384.2468 LA PLAYA AZUL a Iwoseawoer: 101 MAIN STREET EDMONDS, WA 98 SITE PLAN (101 MAIN STREET'— EDMONDS# WA) _. .... ._._. 1331611 e i. tw w / • ,.+ c7 en aC x io ` atn 3 v43.a' o A t-4 o F� a 4 0 �� w a v v a ra E+ 04 12' 751611 38' 8 SIDEWALK LA PLAYA AZIII Beata/'=/j=p' •rmwowna *AT& 101 MAIN STRI EDMONDS, WA LA PLAYA AZUL - EXT ERIQR j IGNAGE SPECIFICATIONS: "Fabricate end Iostall4wo(y,individual single face wail mount sign displays with overall dimensions to be 4'0'x14V*. Sign cabinet to be a combination of exposed neon copy with painted lettering to read 'LA PLAYA AZUL' using I6mm130ma glass (double tube - Voitero Blue) painted portion to match Blue 0286c and outline to be Green r1354c. Lower portion of display to be internally Illuminated Pan -Channel pill cabinet to read'MEXICAN RESTAURANT 3 BAR' as depicted In rendering with White background and 3M vinyl applied 1st surface In Blue 0230.167.OvoW l size of Wtl cabinet to be 1'0' 314V*. Body of pill to be painted same color as cabinet with 1-Gold bimcap to attach fats. Both displays to be flush mounted to building fascias with one (1) facing South and one (1) facing west. 'Cotdnet construction to be of .090 aluminum sklewaas and backing with full internal angle iron structure with pointed exterior finish to be White to match building exterior. 'Installation to be flush mount to building fascia with s9 wiring to be remote within cabinet area. included ter' Is the final electrical hook-up to customer provided power supply. x `FULL TWO (2) YEAR WARRANTY ON ALL PARTS AND LABOR. NEON IDISPLAY FRONT VIEW PERSPECTIVE VIEW SOUTH ELEVATION r� -- -i I - i I T �1,0 T, UPI" CABINET END VIEW Ttda b an odpuksl eketatJdoagn kxsatW tx augreb to, the awn untu Such U" h is b WdtnWby4"&l1dahttarertaa M&nd sh.analW reproducedmthowiitctnyornp I" out" the ct"ua ki ms"1a orow* tst" This in eom� with OW rwtaand raaulawns"IforM qxq httTDLp IIR g00M cuurtnri• >0HP-art OMMOM SIGN & AWNING 12309. 151h N.E. • Seattle. WA 98125 • (206) 364-2311 - Fax (206) 364.2468 SIM CROSS SE( IH — ,- "I LA PLAYA AZU SCAte: Alpswo EDON DAM R�?.s» . fy IOI MAIN STRE. EDMONDS. W. I *PAN -CHANNEL LETTER *INSTALLATION DETAIL (RACEWAY) R.dX=- \A/A.. / "TGD: Vf4-MR%JAL- i'�..I�..P�R L' LVC3 W�L"L. wc�c�ta r-r-�.a.ra� *Transformers mounted to internal angle is *Individual letters mounted to raceway us: 1/4" thru bolts (minimum font (4) per le! .44 'W�do�",4 — 21,94 NEON DISPLAY FRONT VIEW This Is an original sketch/design created ex• ciueively for the client Until such time it Is transferred by sale all rights are reserved and shell not be reproduced or shown to an other party outside the clients immediate orgaO zation This In compliance with the rules and reguiationasettonh —19 PR—D".c.1r—cUuu`m1w6 i g„ CABINET END VIEW f7MP-Fitt SIGN & AWNING NIN 12309 - 15th N.E. • Seattle, WA 98125 (206) 364-2311 • Fax (206) 364-2468