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RIGHT-OF-WAY CONSTRUCTION
STREET FILE PERMIT Permit Number. a
Issue Date: /6)
A. Address or Vicinity of Construction: - 21615 79 AV W (9328128)
B. Type of Work (be specific): Install New Service
C. Contractor: Waighingt-nn Natural Gas Company-
MailingAddress: 815 Mercer Streftattle, WA
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State License #:
D. Building Permit # (if applicable):
Contact: Frank Swan
Phone: 224-2278
Liability Insurance: Bond:$
Side Sewer Permit # (if applicable):
E. E] Commercial E] Subdivision 0 City Project K] Utility (PUD, GTE, WNG, CABLE, WATER)
n Multi -Family Single Family F1 Other
INSPECTOR: INSPECTOR:
F. Pavement or Concrete Cut Yes @No G. Size of Cut: x H. Chargq�_$
APPLICANT TO READ AND SIGN
INDEMNITY. Applicant understands and by his signature to this application, agrees to yhie damages, or
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ch�vns of any kind or description whatsoever, foreseen or unforeseen, that may be ma e against the City,of Edmonds, or any of its departments or
employees, including or not limited to the defense ofany legal proceedings including defense costs, and attorney fees by reason ofgranting this permit.
THE CONTRACTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WORKMANSHIP AND MATERIALS FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAl? FOLLOWING THE FINAL
INSPECTION AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE WORK. ESTIMATED RESTORATION FEES, OILL BE HELD UNTIL THE FINAL STREET PATCH
IS COMPLETED BY CITY FORCES, AT WHICH TIME A DEBIT OR CREDIT WILL BE PROCESSED FOR ISSUANCE TO THE APPLICANT.
Construction drawing of proposed work required with permit application.
A 24 hour notice is required for inspection; Please call the Engineering Division, 771-0220.
Work and material is to be inspected during progress and at completion.
Restoration is to be in accordance with City Codes.
Street shall be kept clean at all times.
Traffic Control and Public Safety shall be in accordance with City regulations as required by the City Engineer.
All street cut ditches shall be patched with asphalt or City approved material prior to the end of the working day;
NO EXCEPTIONS.
Ihaue readthe abouestatements and understand the permit requirements and thepink copyof thepermit willbe
auailable on site at all time:
.j�wr inspection purposes.
Signature: Date: October 12, 1993
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CALL DIAL -A -DIG PRIOR TO BEGINNING WORK
FOR CITY USE ONLY
APPROVEDBY: L—AiLCA RIGHT OF WAY DEPOSIT
TIME AUTHORIZED: VOID AFTER I � AYS
SPECIAL CONDITIONS: VA -
COMMENTS:
DATE:
DISRUPTION FEE/FUND Ill:
RESTORATION FEE:
PERMIT FEE:
TOTAL FEE: cz,
RECEIPT FEE:
ISSUED BY: 42/—�I-A
NO WORK SHALL BEGIN PRIOR TO PERMIT ISSUANCE Engrg. [)iv. 1991
FIELD INSPECTION NOTES
Comments:
Diagram:
CONTRACTOR CALLED FOR INSPECTION
Partial Work Inspection by
Work Disapproved By:
FINAL APPROVAL BY:
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Addendum to City of Edmonds
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chil dren go. the price range of these units and of residences in
njwiht�o onds:is not conducive to families with children, and the people who can
afford them are normally people who are older and have higher incomes, but it will be
no different from any RS-6 neighborhood in Edmonds as far as space for children. He
said they are aware of the water problems there and have planned for them, but they
were a surprise to the other nearby developer. He said they had considered several
designs for subdivisions before deciding on a PRD, and then they tried several PRDs
before going with this one. He noted that a regular subdivision would not take into
�onsideration the topography, but they are leaving as natural a setting as possible
in developing it. Regarding the traffic concerns expressed by Mrs. Klepinger, he
said the engineer stated the effect would be insignificant, but it is recognized that
there will be some impact. Regarding parking on the streets, he said if Edmonds
takes the position that there be parking on the streets then there will have to be
more paving and less landscaping. He added that they had spent a lot of time with
the neighbors and many of their concerns were incorporated into the project and have
been important to them as developers from the beginning. He said all of the principals
in Homeland Homes live in Edmonds and have a real stake in Edmonds. The hearing was
closed.
The traffic was discussed by the Council, and Councilmember Jaech although recognizing
that the developers had worked with the neighbors and that provisions were made for
parking in their development, was still concerned that something be done about Elm
St. heading east from this development all the way to 8th. Ms. Block said there will
not be parking on Elm between 6th and 7th, but there is not parking there now, and
Mr. Bowman said the City's engineer and the traffic engineer, as well as the applicant's
traffic engineer, have reviewed the streets and the traffic loads and indicate the
roadway width is sufficient, but on -street parking was not addressed. Ms. Block
added that there is shoulder property available for parking on the north side of Elm,
east of 7th where the City owns property.
Councilmember Dwyer observed that there is adequate parking for the need created by
this proposal, and although the traffic will increase, what they are looking at is
whether or not it will increase more than if this were done in a regular subdivision,
and he did not think there was any indication that traffic would be greater with the
36 units than there would be in a regular single-family lot development, and while
this may present a traffic inconvenience it is not presenting the type of traffic to
cause denial, and the traffic of the other development should not bar approval of
this project. He noted there is a trade-off of keeping trees or widening the street,
and he was not willing to say the developer is wrong when he says keeping the trees
is more beneficial than widening the street. Overall, he did not have great problems
with traffic and parking as created by this PRO, so he was favorably disposed towards
MOTION: approval. THEREFORE, COUNCILMEMBER DWYER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO
APPROVE THE PRO AND THE PLAT. Councilmember Jaech continued to question the impact
on the streets and whether the motion should address that. Mr. Eames answered her
questions as to the Council's duties. She had not seen the environmental checklist
herself so she said she could not vote on the environmental impact. She suggested
continuing the hearing to get more information from the staff, such as the checklist
and any other studies that have been done. She said they have a nice looking develop-
ment but she did not have information on which to make a judgment on traffic on 7th
and on Elm. Councilmember Hall commented that sometimes widening -streets can be the
worst thing to do. She lives by the first PRD done in Edmonds and it has narrow
streets and does not have the problems she has on the wider street. She thought this
development would keep the pastoral setting the people like there. Councilmember
Ostrom agreed with Councilmember Dwyer, having no problem with the configuration of
the PRD, but he said he also shared the concerns regarding traffic problems. After
some further discussion, A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN ON THE MOTION, WITH COUNCILMEMBERS
DWYER, HALL, AND WILSON VOTING YES, AND WITH COUNCILMEMBERS JAECH, NORDQUIST, AND
OSTROM VOTING NO, RESULTING IN A TIE VOTE. MAYOR NAUGHTEN VOTED YES, TO BREAK THE
TIE. THE MOTION CARRIED. Councilmembers Ostrom and Jaech said they were not voting
against the project, just the lack of information. Ms. Block said the staff would
address the parking problems there. and Councilmember Jaech asked that she communicate
with the people in that area. Hank Lewis added that the road there is designed with
a parking lane on the north side of it, but the situation they are faced with is that
people park on the south side also, and if they all parked on the north side there
would be two clear lanes of travel.
HEARING ON APPEAL OF HEARING EXAMINER DECISION ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
MINI -DAYCARE CENTER AT.21615 79TH AVE. W. (CU-54-83) (APPELLANT: BOHON)
The requested action heard by the Hearing Examiner would allow Cathy Goforth to run a
mini -daycare at her home for up to 12 children. The Hearing Examiner's decision was
to approve the request, subject to certain conditions. This decision was subsequently
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appealed by Warren Bohon. The Council was provided a vicinity map, a copy of the
Hearing Examiner's report, and the appeal letter of Mr. Bohon. The hearing was
opened.
Warren Bohon, 21606 79th W., opposed the approval of the daycare on the grounds that
it is noisy and causes traffic congestion in that there is inadequate parking on the
cul-de-sac where this home is located. He recalled that in 1975 the Maple -Bar Ranch
daycare had applied for a conditional use permit and was denied twice by the Council
because of the noise and the traffic. He noted that the Edmonds High School is
across the street with almost constant noise except in the summer, but then the
children from the daycare are outside yelling and screaming. He said he had lived
with it once and it is an absolute nuisance and now they are trying to do it on the
other side. He said he is a daytime sleeper and another neighbor also is, because
they are truck drivers, and they cannot sleep with that noise. He said the applicant
has space to park five cars but has three cars and will have to have additional help
if the number of children is increased so the helpers' cars will be there and there
is not space for the people dropping off the children. He also felt the property
values of the surrounding properties will be affected by the traffic and the noise.
He said the children have been out in the street. He said he became aware of how
much problem it is to the other neighbors when he started circulating the petition
against it, and the problems would increase with the number of children increased.
He said there are facilities at the Melody Lane School that she could rent for this
kind of use.
Kathy Goforth, 21615 79th W., said she had been there four years and nobody in the
neighborhood had ever indicated to her that there was any problem.. She noted that
the day sleeper nextdoor to her signed the petition because she thought this was
going to be a large expansion. Ms. Goforth, herself, had not seen the petitions.
Regarding the traffic, she said her children arrive during one and one-half hours in
the morning and over two hours in the afternoon, and the most she ever has is two
cars. As far as the Maple -Bar Ranch, she said there is no comparison as they had 108
children with 15 employees. At her home she has a helper at all times when there are
more than six children. She said she cannot do anything about the noise from the
high school, but she said they do not get a lot of traffic in the cul-de-sac. Her
own children do play in the cul-de-sac with neighborhood children but none of the
daycare children play there. She said the oldest child outside playing is five years
old, and two of the children will be infants. She has a duplex behind her and she
said almost everybody in the cul-de-sac is surrounded by apartments or condominiums,
which get weekend and evening noise. She said her neighbors thought anybody who
moved into her house could run a daycare, but that is not true. She has been inspected
by the City of Edmonds, the Edmonds Fire Department, the Department of Health Services,
and the State. She provides transportion to a preschool in the neighborhood (she
later showed a slide of the van used, with seatbelts for eight children). She said
the Hearing Examiner had said her not being in the neighborhood would not make for a
quiet neighborhood. She asked to see the petition.
Ray Harrison, 21626 78th W., said his main concern is noise and traffic. The corner
of his property abuts the corner of the property where the children play. He and his
wife are retired and they like to rest in the afternoon. He said this afternoon was
the only afternoon when the weather was decent that there had not been noise across
the fence. He said traffic is a problem there, especially when the high school gets
out.
Helene Hansen spoke on behalf of her mother, Thelma Milaneski, 21609 79th W., saying
her mother had no objection although she had signed the petition. She said she had
signed it not knowing the facts. She said the daycare children do not play in the
road. She had lived there 15 years and had no complaints. She said the cars are not
there at the same time and do not cause much traffic.
Andrea Floyd, 23926 97th Pl. W., Just moved from across the street from the Goforths
and said she had never noticed noise from the daycare and the children are well
supervised and do not scream but make normal children noises. She said the neighbor-
hood gets a lot of noise from the condominiums and the high school. She and her
husband had considered buying the house but did not because of the noise from the
condominiums, not from the daycare. She said everything is in good repair there and
they are an asset to the neighborhood.
Larry Floyd, same address, said the times he was going to work and coming home there
was never a traffic problem and they never posed any problem. He reiterated what his
wife said about the reason they did not purchase the house they had rented there, and
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he said the Goforths had been excellent neighbors and had kept up their house at
least on par with the rest of the neighbors and better than some.
Larry Hansen. 21604 78th W., said his house is about 35' from the subject house and
the Floyds were 200' away so they could not hear the noise. He said it gets very
noisy in the summertime and he objected to the noise. He said the people on 79th do
not know whit the noise is. He has added storm windows and plants to help lessen the
noise from the high school.
Drienna Bohon, 21606 79th Ave. W. , 19 years at that address, said they spent approxi-
mately 11 years fighting the Maple -Bar Ranch and it also was small at one time. She
said their residential area is surrounded by apartments and condominiums but they are
places to live, and their area now is being surrounded by clinics. She said this is
a business and she objected to that. She said she had seen children from the daycare
center out in the end of the cul-de-sac. Also, that the cul-de-sac has room for only
one car to park and the rest is driveways, and people turn in fast and then hit their
brakes at the second house. They knew they had the high school noise when they moved
there but she said they did not ask for daycare centers to move into their neighborhood.
Mary Lehde, 21624 79th W.- I said she is a grandmother and worries about children, and
she is concerned that there are no sidewalks and the children are eager to see their
parents and they run out when the parents come to get them. She said they have to
double-park.
Ardell Hansen, 21604 78th Ave. W., said she admires this lady for taking care of
these children but she does not think she is in the right location and it does not
belong in this neighborhood and is very noisy.
Laurie Robles, 6703 204th S.W., Lynnwood, said this is an excellent daycare. She had
never seen the children in the street and had never had parking problems, and she had
been there at various times during the day. She said the deck is locked so they
cannot get into the driveway or to the street. She wants a family daycare. She said
Ms. Goforth takes the children to a preschool and has helpers to stay with the little
ones. She noted that a lot of the big daycares will not allow cloth diapers, which
this one does, and food is provided and goes by the child's schedule, not what is
convenient for the daycare.
Connie Merrell, 22905 59th W., said she had prompted Ms. Goforth to apply for a mini -
license because she could not find care for her son. She had taken him to the Y and
he got locked in a closet and was crying in the dark. She had visited at least 15
daycares which she did not find suitable for her child. She also wanted someone to
transport him to preschool. She said her son is only there part-time and that Ms.
Goforth does not always have her maximum number of children because of illness or
other reasons.
Age Stein, 6609 224th S.W., Mountlake Terrace, owner of the Stein School. said he can
testify that it is very hard to find someone he can recommend to take care of children
who need a home during the day. His school does not have those facilities and he has
been very fortunate to have Ms. Goforth and this situation. All the comments he had
received from the parents had been very positive. He said it makes him sad to hear
that children should be seen and not heard, and maybe it is hard to hear those noises
all the time, but what is the alternative. He said the children are the future, and
people who take on a job like that should be commended. He had a daycare 15 years
ago in Edmonds and he knows the hardships involved. He said children have a right to
exist, even if some do not like the noise.
Jim Soleau, 8503 Bowdoin Way, is a single parent with children who go to the daycare
and also to the Stein School. He said it is not really a business but it is a home
for his children. He said she does a good Job and the children are never in the
street, they are either in the house or the enclosed yard when he gets them.
William Tyler, 8024 215th S.W., also is a neighbor although not with abutting property.
He has two children who go to the Stein School and stay at this daycare. He said
this neighborhood is zoned for multiple occupancy and there is a dental clinic on
the same street and Stevens Hospital -is near. in addition to the high school. He
agreed that there is a lot of traffic. His children are never in the yard, and he
said he knows where they are, and probably most of the people who have been complaining
cannot say where their children are.
Ed Springer, 7916 216th S.W. for 21 years, said the Maple -Bar Ranch was in his back
yard so he knows the traffic and noise problem, but there was also a problem a few
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years ago on 79th when there were 15 kids on the block and when their boyfriends and
girlfriends came there were lots of cars. He said it is a noisy neighborhood and
nothing is going to keep it quiet.
Another gentleman from 78th W. said he has two children, five and three years of age,
and Ms. Goforth has a beautiful home in a warm family atmosphere, and the yard is
fenced and the children never play in the street. He said this is a high quality
daycare and a change for his children would be very traumatic.
Mr. Bohon said there seems to be a question of credibility, but the people who have a
daycare problem are not directly affected by the noise as are the people who live
there. He said she probably does a good job with the children but there are other
places she can go to do it. He said she has been operating four years but had only
been licensed two years, and she is licensed for six and has eight. His experience
was that when there is approval for 12 they end up with 16. He said one of the
criteria is that the proposal not be detrimental to the public health or to nearby
pioperties, and there are people who live nearby who say it is detrimental, and
people farther away cannot bear on this decision.
Ms. Goforth said she is licensed for six but can have two part-time children with a
helper on the premises, and she has a helper at all times. She showed slides of her
home which has a 40' deck- where the little ones play, and it is locked. She has an
extra driveway where cars go to let off or pick up children. The hearing was closed.
Councilmember Ostrom commented that he had no doubt that the daycare center is well
run and well managed, but it appeared that if it is causing the kind of problems it
is at its present level, it would be detrimental to expand it. Councilmember Jaech
asked if the Bohons and Goforths had sat down and tried to resolve the problems, and
Ms. Goforth said she was not aware she had a problem until she went to the Hearing
Examiner. She did not know why she had not been told. Mrs. Bohon said that from
past experience, once it is in your area you cannot do anything about it.
Mr. Eames stated that the use is permitted in a multi -family zone with a conditional
use permit, and daycare centers are defined as seven or more children at any one
time, and if you have less than seven at any one time you do not need a conditional
use permit, so the most they could have without a conditional use permit is six at
any one time. Councilmember Jaech suggested continuing this hearing to give the
parties an opportunity to resolve this themselves. Councilmember Hall suggested a
"dead end" sign would help regarding the traffic going into the cul-de-sac. Council -
member Wilson thought it would be difficult to allow an expansion if it is an irritant
to the neighbors, even though she obviously runs a wonderful center and is a loving
person. Councilmember Nordquist observed that if she stays at seven and under she
will not need the permit, but she cannot expand. Councilmember Hall noted that the
recommendation to rent other space was not feasible because that is not the nature of
this type of situation and it would be costly and the children would not have a home
atmosphere. She agreed that maybe they could get together and work it out, and that
Ms. Goforth could control within reason where the children play at certain hours.
MOTION: COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST, TO CONTINUE THIS
MATTER TO MARCH 6, 1984 WHICH GIVES THEM ONE MONTH AND IS THE FIRST AVAILABLE DATE ON
THE COUNCIL'S AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED.
MAYOR
Mayor Naughten congratulated Councilmember Dwyer on being at his first Council meeting.
Mayor Naughten asked for confirmation of the appointments he had proposed. COUNCILMEMBER
MOTION: HALL MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO CONFIRM THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT OF
ROSEMARY SPECHT TO POSITION 1 ON THE CEMETERY BOARD, TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31,
1986; JON SMILEY TO POSITION 3 ON THE PLANNING BOARD, TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31,
1987; and BARRY BIRCH TO POSITION 6 ON THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD, TERM TO EXPIRE
NOVEMBER 5, 1987. MOTION CARRIED.
Approval was requested for a Class A and C liquor license for Susie Bear's, a small
restaurant at 22814 100th Ave. W. (Westgate). The Police Chief had recommended
MOTION: approval. COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED LIQUOR LICENSE. MOTION CARRIED.
COUNCIL
Council President Jaech read a letter from Kirby White of the VFW, advising of the
Emergency Job Training Act of 1983 which subsidizes the hiring of certain veterans in
training programs. Mayor Naughten is aware of the program.
Councilmember Hall stated an interlocal agreement will be on next week's Consent
Agenda regarding the Performing Arts complex.
There was no further business to come before the Council, and the meeting adjourned
at 12:55 a.m. EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
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APPLICATION
for
rne City of Edmonds SIDE SEWER PERYaT
OUTSIDE INSIDE REPAIRS
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NOTICE:
No warranty of accuracy.
The information shown on the attached
map(s) was compiled for use by the City of
Edmonds,, its Employees and Consultants.
The City ofEdmonds does not warrant the
accuracy of anything set forth on these
map(s). Any person or entity -requesting a
copy should conduct an independent
inquiry regarding the information shown on
the map(s), including, but not limited to,
the location of any sewer stub shown. Such
sewer stubs may or may'not exist and may
or may not exist at the location shown.
Neither the City of Edmonds nor its
empl-oyee-s o-r officers shall be Ha-b-le for the
information given on this map(s), nor for
any one representation provided based
upon said map(s).
CITY OF EDMONDS Call PRospect 6-1107 24 hours (plus
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Saturday, Sunday and Holidays) be-
Crff HALL — WATER -SEWER DEPARTMENT fore work is ready for inspection.
SIDE SEWER PERMIT
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with City Sewers in accordance with application on file and governing ordinances.
ATTENTION IS CALLED TO THE FOLLOWING:
NOTE No. 1—The owners of the property may obtain a permit to construct sewer inside property line. A lice
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must be employed to construct side sewer in street area. Do not covLr any portion of sewei befo� sd�n , Pee
NOTE No. 2—Obtain full information regarding Ordinance 11.16.030 and Regulations governing side sewers u get permit.
NOTE No. S—Top of side se er must have at least 30 inches coverage at propert3r line and 12 inches inside property line; minimum grade of
2%. No bends in grade sharper than % will be permitted.
I NOTE No. 4—Trenches in street must be water settled and surface qf street restored to original condition. Contractors shall be responsible for
failure due to improper work which may develop within one year of completion.
I NOTE No. 5--It is unlawful to alter or do any other work than is provided for in the permit, or to do any work on the main sewer or its ap-
purtenances except to insert the pipe into the wye.