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Mr. Robert J. Alberts, City Engineer
City of Edmonds
250 5th Ave. N.
Edmonds, Washington, 98020
Dear Bob:
Bill Mac Donald
702 Puget Lane
Edmonds, Wn., 98020
December 1, 1991
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DEC 5
Thanks for your letter of November Ist, and I apologize for the
delayed reply, but was kind of laid up for a while. I have
lately had the chance to check the Shell Creek outfall and it
seems to be flowing fine at this time. Even though we have had
some fairly heavy rains, the pipe is still about 1/2 full of
gravel and sand, but the water is flowing and the stench is gone.
I would assume it is gone for the winter, but we will have to
face it again in the spring.
I looked at the profile of the beach by the outfall, and think
that it would take about 30-401 of additional pipe to get it out
to where the tide would not fill it with sand and gravel. It
might still not be entirely clear at all times, but it would be
close I think. However, just from looking at it, I suggest we
pursue the idea put out at the meeting, to install a smaller pipe
out from the base of the larger outfall pipe. I would suggest a
pipe about 12-1811 in diameter, which would not be an obstruction
on the beach, as it would be completely buried for most of it's
length, and exposed only at the end. Also, by putting a baffle
in the end of the larger pipe up to about 2/3 of the diameter,
and letting the smaller pipe issue from the bottom of the baffle,
it would keep most of the infusion of seaweed, etc. out of the
pipe and still let it drain. I think it would still provide for
plenty of drainage, even in the heaviest of rains.
By using the smaller pipe, it would keep the cost to a minimum
and also minimize the obstruction on the beach,. It would be
important to check the topography of the beach at that point
carefully to make sure, but I think it might work, as long as the
upper 1/3 of the large pipe that is open is above high'tide line,
so sand, gravel, seaweed, and driftwood don't get washed into the
pipe at extreme high tides.
Please let me know if this makes sense, and maybe we can meet to
look into this again sometime after the Holidays. I would be
glad to meet you at the beach sometime, if that would work for
you so we could check this out.
Have a Happy Holiday Season!!!!
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Bill Mac Donald
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CITY OF EDMONDS
250 - 5TH AVE. N. - EDMONDS, WA 98020 - (206) 771-3202
COMMUNITY SERVICES:
Public Works 9 Planning e Parks and Recreation e Engineering
November 1, 1991
Mr. William MacDonald
702 Puget Lane
Edmonds, WA 98020
SUBJECT: ODORS FROM SHELL CREEK OUTFALL
TROJECT ElHA
Dear Bi 11 :
LARRY S. NAUGHTEN
MAYOR
PETER E. HAHN
DIRECTOR
Jim Walker and I enjoyed our meeting and exchange of ideas. A copy of
a summary of the meeting is enclosed. Please contact us if any part of
the summary is incorrect.
If we can be of any assistance, please call.
Sincerely,
Robert J. Alberts
City Engineer
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Enclosure
cc: Mr. Lloyd Ostrom
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October 30, 1991
TO: File ElHA
Shell Creek Outfall
FROM: R. J. Alberts, City Engineer
SUBJECT: MEETING REGARDING OUTFALL ODORS
On October 29, 1991, Mr. Lloyd Ostrom,,Mr. Bill MacDonald, Jim
Walker, and Bob Alberts met to discuss odor problems at the outfall
pipeline. The group concurred the problem was most likely due to
decaying seaweed in the pipe. During high tides, the pipe is filled
with the salt water and organics in the water. The high tides also
push the beach sand over the outlet of the pipe preventing the water
from escaping and flushing the pipe during low tides. The water sits
in the pipe and the organics decay, thus producing the odor. It was
also noted at the meeting that the air in the pipe above the water was
very stagnant, and there was no air movement. Ideas discussed to try
to correct the problem were:
1) Extend a smaller pipe (approximately 6 inches) out the end of the
pipe into the tide flats. This would allow the water to escape
from the pipe after high tides. The decaying of organic matter
could still be a problem unless manually removed.
2) Pump the water out from the outlet of the pipe, and manually clean
the pipe.
3) Install a screen to prevent the seaweed and other organic
matter from entering the pipe. A concern was raised if the
screen could open with the weight of any seaweed buildup on the
screen. Another version of this idea was to install a split
screen inside the pipe.
4) Chemical treatment.
5) Extend the outfall pipeline out into the tide flats. This would
be expensive and make an obstruction on the beach.
6) Install an air exchange system such as air relief valves to
circulate the air.
7) Install an air bubble system that would agitate the water and
sand blocking the outlet. Enough agitation may be provided to
flush the pipe.
The group agreed the problem won't exist during the winter and plans
need to be established to address the problem again in the summer.
Memo to File ElHA
Re: Shell Creek Outfall
October 30, 1991
Page 2
Circulating the air appeared to be the first solution to try. Jim
Walker would determine the volume of the standing water in the pipeline
and take dissolved oxygen tests. The group would stay in contact.
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