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C. 2015 C)DOL f v� ° CITY OF EDMONDS 121 5TH AVENUE NORTH -EDMONDS, WA 98020 PHONE: (425) 771-0220 - FAX: (425) 771-0221 Thursday, February 12, 2015 Your request for a Development Review Committee meeting has been accepted by the City of Edmonds. The meeting is scheduled for: 02/26/2015 at 3:00 PM . We Strongly suggest that all lead design professionals associated with the project attend this meeting. Application Number: DRC20150004 PROP OWNER: DAVID B LIVING TRUST PAGE 1233 OLYMPIC VIEW DR UNIT 2 EDMONDS, WA 98020-2658 (425)319-1234 Project Address: 1233 OLYMPIC VIEW DR, EDMONDS Existing Use/ Occupancy: Unknown Proposed Project: Coffee shop with Drive thrit To view up to date information about your permit please visit the City of Edmonds Development Services website at http://Www.ci.edmonds.wa.us. vCF EDAf DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE ^. MEETING REQUEST FORM Location: Development Services Department 10 j 2M Floor City Hall —121 5' Ave. N. Edmonds, WA 98020 Phone: 425.771.0220 Fax: 425.771.0221 ' I TODAY'S DATE: &IZ/Jz L5 FEE: NONE REQUIRED SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS Please submit this information ONE WEEK PRIOR TO Please submit 6 COPIES EACH of the following: REQUESTED MEETING DATE to: 1. Site Plan Building Division — Permit Coordinator 2. Vicinity Map 2nd Floor City Hall 3. Copies of this completed form 121 Fifth Avenue North 4. Pertinent background information Edmonds, WA 98020 Meetings are held on Thursday afternoons at 1:30 and 3:00 p.m. for approximately 45 minutes. Please indicate vour preference below. DATE: V `iA[\-�D ~- / "'? l "'� I TIME: OFFICIAL USE Assigned date: Assigned Time PLEASE FILL IN INFORMATION REQUIRED BELOW APPLICANT/CONTACT: PROPERTY OWNER: ' ADDRESS' [ ,O �(��, T � Q O ADDRESS: CONTACT PHONE: CONTACT PHONE: - IsaaLf FE-MAIL ADDRESS: E-MAIL ADDRESS: n ma l - CO PROVIDE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT: &v_i4 - r uI Please note that the Development Review Committee is an informal opportunity for you and/or your representative to meet with staff and discuss your preliminary ideas and concepts for your project. The intent of the meeting is to help to identify the major code requirements that will need to be addressed and any significant site development issues that may relate to the project. The intent is for the meeting to occur prior to considerable investment in plans and/or design work. You may wish to have your design professional (s) accompany you to the meeting. This meeting is an informal session to share information and does not constitute a review or tacit approval of the project. 1 David B. Page PO Box 984 Edmonds, WA 98020-0984 February 11, 2015 The Development Services Department 2"d Floor City Hall — 121 5th Ave. N Edmonds, WA 98020 To The Development Review Committee: The proposal is for a coffee shop that would encompass the west 20 feet of my building on Puget Dr. As far as construction goes, the only physical addition to the building would be a drive -up window which would be about 4 ft. wide and about 3 ft.deep. Some plumbing and electrical would be re-routed but that is of little concern at this time. The two concerns for me are the conditional use permit and the parking. If you follow the red arrows on the site plan, you can see how the traffic flow will facilitate a successful turnaround. I would eliminate five parking spaces on the west side of the building and if necessary, change the parking on the south side of the building from horizontal to diagonal in order to make extra parking spaces (indicated in green on the site plan). The proposal is a rough outline of what I want to do. Thank you for your consideration. I can be reached at my cell, 425.319.1234 or at byrondbp@gmai1.com. Sincerely, Dave Page i DEV REV COMMITTEE MEETING NOTIFICATION & PLANS Date: To: Building 2"En ineerin Fire Tannin Leif Shane [� From: Denise ❑ Meeting Date: 2 Meeting Time: Applicant Location Site: Q L k D (Z Project s Attached are the plans for the meeting scheduled above. 9e(will" e, 47, i , weed F5 uA"4, aL dU 49,4.,e'-: Ywvs 1/P� xi ve-c4% z,X(4g ` v pAe - <;�,,� p �P . 1kc.'G�.ssi b � GG , ��� - ice. ��'a�ee-, �v� S�,C�� �rrl�c.�% •��� m+N� AWIrc, LLY&c 6 5-v 454L v= S of E M DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING REQUEST FORM Location: Development Services Department 2nd Floor City Hall —121 a Ave. N.- , ciao Edmonds, WA 98020 Phone: 426.771.0220 Fax: 425.771.0221 TODAY'S DATE: FEE: NONE REQUIRED SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS Please submit this information ONE WEEK PRIOR TO ' Please submit 6 COPIES EACH of the following: REQUESTED MEETING DATE to: 1. Site Plan Building Division — Permit Coordinator ;2-Vicinity Map 2nd Floor City Hall \13. Copies of this completed form 121 Fifth Avenue North 4. Pertinent background information Edmonds, WA 98020 Meetings are held on Thursday afternoons at 1:30 and 3:00 p.m. for approximately 45 minutes. Please indicate your preference below. I DATE: 2. 12 o 15 I TIME: Vh A�ss� `ried dq`ned Time .: . � _ 1! PLEASE FILL IN INFORMATION REQUIRED BELOW APPLICANT/CONTACT: Jo.rn{S ✓A�e'r PROPERTY OWNER: ` a ADDRESS: -1 COL lb" 5+ S� b ADDRESS: CONTACT PHONE: y g�7 CONTACT PHONE: u2s 3 � L . Z -3 LA FE-MAIL ADDRESS: , SvALAJ`Q!3' m�`'Ca� E-MAIL ADDRESS: (fly -Jlr ., ' 0 160lAn O J bob Win 'A ,,,tic: S,4•-1 c"( L' F,t.t Please note that the Development Review Committee is an informal opportunity for you and/or your representative to meet with staff and discuss your preliminary ideas and concepts for your project. 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DATE: �-'� 2. 2 rj TIME: , '!;p C7 ol Assianed'date.re Assigned Time _ PLEASE FILL IN INFORMATION REQUIRED BELOW APPLICANT/CONTACT: Ja►�^'►< S ✓��A�Q r PROPERTY OWNER: ADDRESS: -1 SO(. l�� � S� 6 ADDRESS: t L `� �� L " tom CONTACT PHONE: �`� O�S CONTACT PHONE: FE-MAILADDRES'S: St���� �i mho •G6� E-MAIL ADDRESS: 109171191ogg"alau=9 admigaug• ` \ O J &• r at% 01 r„v 5�.�,►�.. t�.� whL �...iL da r,�itr. � '�� �� tpr: `r► W fit_ h�� nc,L: ���. F,f►L � 1 Please note that the Development Review Committee is an informal opportunity for you and/or your representative to meet with staff and discuss your preliminary ideas and concepts for your project. The intent of the meeting is to help to identify the major code requirements that will need to be addressed and any significant site development issues that may relate to the project The intent is for the meeting to occur prior to considerable investment in plans and/or design work. You may wish to have your design professional (s) accompany you to the meeting. This meeting is an informal session to share information and does not constitute a review or tacit approval of the project f, : ^ § g ] . � LF-, 2©/� Bjorback, Leif From: Bjorback, Leif Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 1:41 PM To: 'David Page' Subject: RE: FW: permit (Page Building) Dave, The sprinkler system lessens the separation requirement from what the building code calls a 2-hour floor -ceiling assembly to a 1-hour assembly, but it is not a complete substitute for the fire rating, and thus you would still need drywall. And about the architect, I'm sorry but we are not allowed to make recommendations for contractors or designers. You may have to ask around town for that. Thanks, Leif From: David Page [mailto:byrondbp@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 8:01 AM To: Bjorback, Leif Subject: Re: FW: permit (Page Building) Hi Leif: I had a brainstorm. If we opted for a sprinkler system, would that satisfy the need for the firewall. also can you recommend a architect that the city works. with. Thanks. Dave Page On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Bjorback, Leif <Leif.Bjorback&edmondswa.gov> wrote: HI Dave, thanks for the phone conversation this morning. To recap just a bit, in order for a daycare to occupy your first floor, the code will require the ceiling to be fire rated, triggered by the change of use (change of occupancy.) Here is the section of the building code with the partial list of recognized uses that fall under the B occupancy that I mentioned. Please be aware that I am sending you this list simply to show you some of the other building code - approved uses you might consider that would not be a change of use for your building. It is always wise to check with the city to see if there are specific requirements or restrictions within the building code or other land use codes for future uses you are considering. For example, .I can't say whether a dog kennel (which is on the list) would be allowed by our land use code in your location; or if you put in a beauty shop, there are specific requirements for ventilation that would need to be met. Let me know if you have further questions. Regards, From: David Page [mailto:byrondbp@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:56 AM To: Bjorback, Leif; David Page Cc: Westfall, John; Hope, Shane; Chave, Rob Subject: Re: FW: permit (Page Building) Hi Lief: Please do review the code. If you look at the building it is evident that an additional firewall is not necessary. The Condo upstairs which my wife and I occupy has multiple ways. out in case of fire. It makes no sense to require something that is not needed. How many other day cares in Edmonds were required to do this? All of these codes appear to have been passed after I purchased the building. It's intrusive to doing business. I am in jeopardy of losing the building to the bank after 30 years of ownership. Please look for an exception that will allow us to continue. I await your reply. Dave Page On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Bjorback, Leif <Leif.Bjorbackgedmondswa.aov> wrote: Hi Dave, I'm sorry I was not in the office to talk to you on Friday. At the end of our meeting on Thursday we talked about the possibility of the building code requiring a fire -rated separation between the two floors. With the informal nature of our development review committee meetings and the limited information I had to go on, I was only able to bring up that item in general terms. I recall that the next step for you folks was to check above the dropped ceiling to see whether or not there was drywall on the ceiling, or some kind of rated system in place. Am I to take it by your description that you did not find drywall? If that is the case, I believe the code will require the ceiling to be fire rated if the first floor undergoes a change of occupancy from a business to a daycare. I have only done some preliminary checking in the building code so far; this type of situation in an existing building may take bit of digging to see what the code actually requires. Y] Regards, Leif Bjorback Building Official City of Edmonds 425) 771-0220 x 1380 From: Chave, Rob Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 2:05 PM To: Bjorback, Leif Subject: FW: permit (Page Building) So this sounds like building/fire issues? Rob Chave I Planning Manager City of Edmonds From: David Page [mailto:byrondbp@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 2:04 PM To: Chave, Rob; David Page; Windy Subject: permit Hi Rob: Thursday I was involved in a meeting with several of your staff members and a rep from the fire dept. to ascertain whether a day care would be feasible on my property at 1233 Olympic View Dr. I bought the building 3 in 1984 when the zoning was mixed use. I had real estate, mortgage, building services and escrow for 32 years in that spot. The new owner moved Edmond realty downtown. I have 3,800 hundred sq. ft that lends itself perfectly to a day care. I live upstairs in the condo with my wife Mindy. Frankly Rob I an amazed that the city has the power to invade every aspect of my property including what bedding plants belong in my planter boxes. Never the less I believe we can transverse The Traffic study the parking requirement the fire Marshal inspection and the horticulture requirements. all fees paid by the applicant. Right at the end of the meeting Leif Bjorback stated that we may need a fire barrier between the first and second floors. For me that is a knock out punch that would knock me and my fellow applicants out of the ball park. What is there for fire protection besides fire extinguishers, fire alarms and smoke detectors are 6 doors door leading out of the building in every direction. You would virtually'have to poor gasoline on yourself to get injured in a my building. The floor separating the upstairs is 3/4 in. exterior plywood then 3/4 solid oak throughout the building. This building was built like a brick s--- house. In the downturn of 208 - 111 lost everything and had to refinance my properties to stave of bankruptcy,I have been going backwards $5,500 a month for over a year to support that building. The building dept says maybe 4 -5 months even to get a permit. Then the work needs to be done before we get to the hearing examiner. I can handle that if we can get by this fire barrier. Going through that solid oak would give anybody plenty of time to get out of a burning building. As you can surmise Rob I'm dying financially. If you could look the code and talk to Lief about any way forward for me on this project, I would be eternally grateful. 4 AF: Your in the struggle. Dave Page David B. Page 425.319.1234 David B. Page 425.319.1234 David B. Page 425.319.1234 5. pxrkk ' �t�Q�l�'_ 'i.. •� �`� �' ..yQ,4 .C/l.'• 'lrC.• ��{,�a■ �� .iO� r.a.`�.p1'.• c. . k _ - !• T � � , �:� :' ter' — � -� Lg Omer- ilzii e � L:�iF � j I: •K �� � f -T-) -A77, k� imi nvc-e, I've