RE_ Slate (601 Dayton St.).pdf
From:bbt signs
To:Machuga, Jen
Subject:RE: Slate (601 Dayton St.)
Date:Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:34:43 AM
Jen,
We will meet with customer and let you know. Thank you very much for looking into it.
Best regards,
Frank
BB&T Signs
425.330.8160
From: Jen.Machuga@edmondswa.gov
To: bbtsigns@msn.com
Subject: RE: Slate (601 Dayton St.)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 20:28:37 +0000
Hi Christina,
I brought your drawings to our staff meeting this morning. Since the proposed sign has elements of
both a wall and projecting sign, we have to make sure that it would comply with the applicable
standards for both. As we previously discussed, the code requires internally illuminated signs to be
mounted to the wall of the building and not on the canopy, so the proposed sign would need to be
non-illuminated or externally illuminated (halo illumination is allowed as a form of external
illumination). Additionally, ECDC 20.60.020.A states “when located on a wall or mansard roof, no
sign may extend above the highest point of the wall or roof, or above the eave or drip line of a
pitched roof on which it is located.” My manager confirmed that this would prevent the sign from
being above to extend above the top of the canopy. You could, however, attach the sign to the face
of the canopy as long as the top of the sign is flush with the top of the canopy.
One thought that we had during our staff meeting was that with the canopy sticking out so far from
the face of the building, people coming up or down Dayton Street won’t see a sign mounted to the
face of the canopy untilthey are directly in front of the building, so it may be more effective for
customers finding the site if the business owner had two signs with one mounted to each side of the
canopy instead of being mounted to the face of the canopy.
Please let me know if this causes the need to make any changes to your current building permit
application for a wall-mounted sign at this site. The sign is still pending review from our various
departments, so if there are going to be any changes to the submittal, I’d like to let our reviewers
know ASAP so that they can wait on conducting their review until we get the revised plans from you.
Thanks,
Jen
Jennifer Machuga, Associate Planner
City of Edmonds, Planning Division
121 - 5th Avenue North
Edmonds, WA 98020
(425) 771-0220 ext. 1224
Jen.Machuga@edmondswa.gov
From: bbt signs \[mailto:bbtsigns@msn.com\]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:44 PM
To: Machuga, Jen
Subject: RE: Slate (601 Dayton St.)
Jen,
Thank you, that would be great! Attached is the design approved by the customer. Again,we
are lookingfor attaching to the top (or under but top is preferred) of the awning and how to
illuminateit. We appreciate your help in looking at this situation, and helping us to please
the customer. Let me know if there is anything else you need.
Thank you,
Christina
BB&T Signs
425.330.8160
From: Jen.Machuga@edmondswa.gov
To: bbtsigns@msn.com
Subject: RE: Slate (601 Dayton St.)
Date: Tue, 6May 2014 21:14:05 +0000
Hi Christina,
Do you have a basic sketch of what the customer would like to do? I can take it to my staff meeting
tomorrow morning to get a second opinion on what their options may be.
Thanks,
Jen
Jennifer Machuga, Associate Planner
City of Edmonds, Planning Division
121 - 5th Avenue North
Edmonds, WA 98020
(425) 771-0220 ext. 1224
Jen.Machuga@edmondswa.gov
From: bbt signs \[mailto:bbtsigns@msn.com\]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 1:45 PM
To: Machuga, Jen
Subject: RE: Slate (601 Dayton St.)
Jennifer,
We have some questions concerningthe Slate Salon & Spasignage (BLD20140402). I left a
message for our city contact Linda Thornquist as well. The customer really wantsto have the
sign on the awning. When I was dropping the application off, we were not sure if it could be
on the top of the awning and how it could be lit if on the awning. We need to make
absolutely sure that it cannot be on the top. If there is any way to have the sign on the top
we would like to explore those options. Also, if it can be on top how can it be illuminated?
We understand that it cannot be internally illuminated. However, when we spoke it sounded
like we could do halo lighting or back-lit. If I understand correctly, back-lit lighting is an
internal lighting.
We are trying to please the customer if at all possible, so we need to make sure that we
understand the bi-laws and restricts for the city.
Thank you for your help,
Christina
BB&T Signs
425.330.8160
From: Jen.Machuga@edmondswa.gov
To: bbtsigns@msn.com
Subject: RE: Slate (601 Dayton St.)
Date: Tue, 15Apr 201418:34:18 +0000
Hi Frank,
Based on a quick look at your proposal, it does not appear that this would be something we could
permit. Our sign code requires internally illuminated signs in the downtown area to be mounted on
the wall of the building. Internally illuminated signsdowntown cannot be mounted on or under an
awning (perECDC 20.60.020.M.3).
For further information on what could be allowed at this site, please refer to our sign code (ECDC
20.60) by clicking here. The site is located within the Downtown Business, BD2, zone. In addition to
the applicable sign code regulations, the BD design standards of ECDC 22.43 will also be applicable
to this site (the standards related to signage are in Section 22.43.040).
I hope this helps answer your questions!
Sincerely,
Jen
Jennifer Machuga, Associate Planner
City of Edmonds, Planning Division
121 - 5th Avenue North
Edmonds, WA 98020
(425) 771-0220 ext. 1224
Jen.Machuga@edmondswa.gov
From: bbt signs \[mailto:bbtsigns@msn.com\]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:47 PM
To: Machuga, Jen
Subject: Slate
Jen,
I called you today about a sign for Slate Salon located at 601 Dayton St, Edmonds. Attached
is a design of the sign and were we want to put it. Please let me know if any concerns.
Best regards,
Frank
BB&T Signs
425.330.8160