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Date: November 14, 2014
To: Site Workshop
222 Etruria St, Suite 200
Seattle, WA 98109
Attn: Brian Bishop
From: Steve Hatzenbeler, PE
Project: Edmonds Spray Park
LPD Project No: 028-14-01
Subject: City of Edmonds Plait Review Comments Response
911 Western Avenue, Suite 420
Seattle, WA 98104
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The following is response to the City of Edmonds review comments dated October 7, 2014. Please let us know if you
have any questions or additional concerns. We greatly appreciate all of your coordination with us to quickly move this
through the permitting process.
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Engineering Cornments
LPD Response
1. Please address the following call out issues to provide clarity to
the plans and assist with clearer referencing during the
construction process:
a) SID #07 connects to an existing catch basin to the northwest,
1a) The callout has been relocated closer to the
that existing catch basin then connects to a second existing
catch basin.
catch basin to the west. The callouts for the second catch
basin are located on the west side of the asphalt road, quite a
way away from the actual catch basin. The leader is the same
weight as the other pipe lines. Please revise to avoid
confusion.
b) Assign identifiers to the existing catch basins.
1b) Catch basin identifiers have been added to
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existing catch basins
2. Please revisit rim elevation for SID 407. If 5 ft between invert and
SDtf7 rim elevation has been revised to 28.50. The
rim then a type 2 catch basin should installed. The grade lines as
distance from rim to IE is 4.5 ft, so the Type I CB
shown on the plan indicate that the rim may be closer to 28.
appears to be acceptable.
Please make revisions as needed.
3. The second existing catch basin referenced in comment "la" has
Existing drainage pipes connected to the CB will
a length of pipe directed to the north and another length
not be altered. It is not known with certainty
directed northwest that do not connect to anything. Will they be
where the two rioted pipes connect; they are
abandoned? Do they connect somewhere that is not shown? Also
included in the survey and expected to remain as. -
the cb callout has two NW inverts; which is the pipe that extends
is. Pipes that connect to the existing CB will rernain
to the far west existing cb?
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unless they are proven not to be needed during
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engineerinNgo
November 14, 2014
Edmonds Spray Park
City of Edmonds Public Works Department - Engineering Division
Plan Review Comments
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Engineering Comments
LPC Response
1. Sewer Lift Station - No data/calculations/report/sizing/pump
construction. We assume the lower IE is the pipe
curves has been provided for the sewer lift station for the project
that extends to the far west existing CB.
4. The existing catch basin located just a bit to the southwest of
The note has been amended as requested.
SDCO #6 is noted to be filled with dirt. Please add to the note
Appendix B of the drainage report.
"Clean out catch basin...." the phrase "replace with new type 1
Datum. Pipe connection inverts to tank have been
catch basin if damaged".
added to sheets C2.0 and C3.0 as applicable.
Utility Engineer Comments — Project`Calculations
Reviewer: Michele (Mike) F. De Ulla, P.E., LEEP AP
LPD Response
1. Sewer Lift Station - No data/calculations/report/sizing/pump
The sewer lift station pump curves showing the
curves has been provided for the sewer lift station for the project
analysis of the performance of the two 2 -HP
site. The consultant was asked to follow Engineering Handout E61
pumps are included with the resubmittal in
for the design of the pump station, so there is no way for us to
Appendix B of the drainage report.
check sizing, type of pump, buoyancy calcs, etc. (as detailed in the
Datum. Pipe connection inverts to tank have been
handout). As discussed in the meeting, modifications to the
added to sheets C2.0 and C3.0 as applicable.
flow/storage rates would be allowed to account for the fact that
this is just draining the spray ground.
2. Buoyancy for storage tank — It is understood that the tank will
Buoyancy analysis has been added as section 5.7
have an underdrain system. The geotechnical report (HWA
of the drainage report. The approximate elevation
9/18/2014), however, recommends that that the design
of flood water in the parking lot was previously
groundwater level for buoyancy purposes should be one foot
considered in the design of the detention system,
above the existing ground surface. Verify that the designer
and the approximate elevation and related
believes that the proposed underdrain system and associated
information have been added to the Downstream
concrete anchor are sufficient in these artisan groundwater
Analysis section of the drainage report.
conditions to prevent the detention pipe from floating without
additional ballast. Underdrains can fail due to clogging. Also
based on previous meeting comments by Rich Lindsey, during the
winter, portions of the park parking lot are subject to flooding
due to the rain events and the proximity of the nearby marsh. Has
the consultant determined this flood stage water level to verify
that the drainage system could still function and keep the empty
tank from floating up? Or worse yet having the underdrain system
act as a conduit for the flood waters to go in?
Utility Engineer Comments: Plans
Reviewer: Michele (Mike) F. De Lill, P.E., LEEP AP
LPC Response
1. Sheets C2.0 & M4.00
Provide grades so that tank inverts/connection points are known.
The project survey, included as reference with the
Detail 2 on M4.00 has dimensions from top of grade, but site is
project permit documents is based upon NAVD88
sloped. At least one NAVD88 reference grade needs to be
and all elevations shown are on the NAVD 88
supplied. Also detail 2 on M4.00 shows a step between finish
Datum. Pipe connection inverts to tank have been
grade and the concrete collar, but detail 3 shows it flush. What is
added to sheets C2.0 and C3.0 as applicable.
the depth of the slab, thickness, etc. so that contractor knows
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Edmonds Spray Park
City ofEdmonds Public Works Dopartment- Engineering Division
Plan Review Comments
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Utility Engineer Comments: Plans
LPD Response
Reviewer: Michele (Mike) F. De 1-1111a, P.E., LEEP AP
how much concrete to pour, with what dimensions, how to tie it
in and what straps are made of?
engineerinMgI
November 14, 2014
Edmonds Spray Park
City of Edmonds Public Works Department - Engineering Division
Plan Review Comments
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Utility Engineer Comments: Plans
LPD Response
Reviewer: Michele (Mike) F. De Lily, P.E., LEEP AP
2. Sheet C3.0
a) Water service piping shown as PE, plain PE is not allowed. City
2a) The pipe material has been revised to
standard is copper. Municipex crosslinked PE pipe with
indicate Municipex crosslinked PE pipe and
associated 14 gauge PVC coated copper locator wire is the
the depth and alignment information have
only other alternative. Also depth and alignment information
been added to sheet C3.0. The location where
needs to be supplied so that it can be as -built properly.
the water service enters the building has
Location of where water service enters the building does not
been modified to match the current
match mechanical dwg on M2.00. Location on mech plans is
mechanical drawings.
better since you will not need to cross all the water supply
lines to the spray park. Coordinate with mechanical and
realign.
b) Sewer FM profile missing. Horizontal alignment information
2b) A sanitary sewer force main profile has been
missing as well. Also bends are shown in the FM pipe. These
added to sheet C4.4 (new sheet), and called
need to be sweeps/arcs. Verify that HDPE has a 200 psi rating.
out on C3.0. Approximate horizontal
alignment information has been added to the
plan. The bends have been revised to sweeps.
The pipe has been revised to 200 psi High -
Mol PE per the City standards.
3. Sheet C3.1
a) Sewer FM profile missing. Horizontal alignment information
3a) A sanitary sewer force main profile has been
missing as well. Also bends are shown in the FM pipe. These
added to sheet C4.4 (new sheet), and called
need to be sweeps/arcs. Verify that HDPE has a 200 psi rating.
out on C3.1. Approximate horizontal
alignment information has been added to the
plan. The bends have been revised to sweeps.
The pipe has been revised to 200 psi High -
Mol PE per the City standards.
b) Based on orientation of lid for the new manhole being placed
3b) The manhole orientation and location have
in the ROW, an interior drop into the MH structure cannot be
been changed. The IE in and out have also
built as detailed, since the invert penetration for the FM will
been modified to provide adequate cover at
be somewhere between the cone transition or the riser. The
the point of connection to the manhole.
MH opening will need to be rotated 180 degrees to have the
drop detail work as shown. Also at best, the FM at MH
connection has about 1.1' of cover at connection, but lift
station detail shows 2' cover min. Recommend rotating the
manhole 180 degrees and also shifting it 3 feet east of the
current location so that the lid is at the back of sidewalk and
the cone portion is facing the roadway. This should solve the
cover issue and the inside drop issue.
c) SS service lateral connection shall be per COE std detail E6.4.
3c) The SS service lateral connection has been
called out per COE Std Det E6.4, and the
detail has been added to sheet C4.4 (new
sheet).
4. Sheet C4.3
Pump Detail —
a) 1 hp pumps shown. Standard per E61 is 2hp. Please revise so
4a) Pumps have been revised to 2 HP.
that it matches all our other lift stations. Ops staff does not
want to have even more materials on hand for maintenance.
engineerinNgo
November 14, 2014
Edmonds Spray Park
City of Edmonds Public Works Department - Engineering Division
Plan Review Comments
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Utility Engineer Comments: Plans
LPD Response
Reviewer: Michele (Mike) F. De Lina, P.E., LEEP AP
b) How are the valve extension handles for the gate valve
4b) The gate valves have been moved outside the
secured so that they don't drop in the structure? Why were
manhole. The detail has been modified to
they not placed outside? (Was it because of all the supply
include all the standard items in accordance
pipes leading to the spray park?) Gate valves need to be non
with COE Std Det E6.8.
rising stem. Also, what is the pipe in the structure made out of
and also how long is the piece of pipe after the gate valve?
Can valve extensions be made so that they operate at such
angles in relation to the lid? Also, verify clearances for all
valves (gate/check valves) so that there is actually enough
space in the structure to perform maintenance/access on the
structure and valves so that there is adequate space and
clearances can be removed for maintenance. A to scale x,y,z
dimension check of this needs to be done.
c) What is the purpose of the pump encasement pipe? From
4c) The pump encasement pipe has been
previous meetings, there should not be any debris. What is it
eliminated. The pumps are mounted on rails
made out of? How is it secured? How many holes are needed
that keep them above the bottom of the
and what distance on center and how many rows? How many
sump.
holes are needed so that performance of pump is not
affected?
d) Pump needs to be on rail system per E61.
4d) The pumps are mounted on rails in
accordance with E61 and COE Std Det E6.8.
e) Provide Buoyancy calcs, since no underdrain system has been
4e) Buoyancy analysis has been included in
provided. Add ballast as needed.
Section 5.7 of the drainage report.
f) Is lid of structure a MH lid? If so, please specify. Larger
4f) The City requested a larger diameter opening
opening would be better, especially if the gate valves are to
for the manhole, so we have increased it to a
stay in the structure.
30 -inch opening. We have specified a hinged
4'x4' access hatch rather than a manhole
cover, and a detail for the installation has
been added.
g) Where is the vent pipe?
4g) A 3 -inch PVC air vent pipe has been added to
the SS lift station detail.
h) 3" HDPE is shown with 2' min depth. Please show minimum
4h) On Detail 2/C4.4, a dimension has been
clearance of HDPE in relation to the soffit of the structure,
added to identify the minimum clearance of 1
because as shown, the HDPE could literally be at the soffit of
ft below the bottom of the manhole top slab.
the structure (making maintenance difficult) and still make
The specified HDPE (Driscoplex 4100) has a
the 2' minimum burial depth. HDPE needs to have a 200 psi
rating of 250 psi.
rating.
I) All pipe penetrations shall have Calpico link seals with the
4i) On Detail 2/C4.4, a note regarding the
tightening bolts installed so that they can be tightened from
inclusion of Calpico link seals has been added
the inside of the structure.
to the detail.
Storm Drain Cleanout
j) Provide locking lid and revise to reference COE std E6.2.
4j) COE Std Det E6.2 has been added to the
drawings, Detail 1/sheet C4.3.
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Edmonds Spray Park
City of Edmonds Public Works Department - Engineering Division
Plan Review Comments
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Utility Engineer Comments: dans
Reviewer: Michele (Mike) F. De Lilla, P.E., ;LEEP AP
LPC Response
5. Sheet M1.01
Material type for all piping not shown. Please supply so that city
can verify that city standard materials are being used.
Buoyancy analysis has been added as section 5.7 of
6. Sheet M2.00
the drainage report. The approximate elevation of
All cleanouts need to have locking lids and be per COE std. E6.2.
flood water in the parking lot was previously
Stormwater Engineer Comments — Stormwater Site Plan
LPC Response
Reviewer: Jerry Shuster, P.E.
1. Buoyancy
It is understood that the detention system has an underdrain
Buoyancy analysis has been added as section 5.7 of
system. The geotechnical report (HWA 9/18/2014), however,
the drainage report. The approximate elevation of
recommends that that the design groundwater level for
flood water in the parking lot was previously
buoyancy purposes should be one foot above the existing ground
considered in the design of the detention system,
surface. Verify that the designer believes that the proposed
and the approximate elevation and related
underdrain system is sufficient in these artesian groundwater
information have been added to the Downstream
conditions to prevent the detention pipe from floating without
Analysis section of the drainage report.
additional ballast. Underdrains can fail due to clogging. In
addition, anecdotal information for Park's employees indicate
that during large storm events the western part of the park's
parking lot is flooded meaning the proposed underdrain system
may not have anywhere to drain or be backwatered.
2. Section 5.4, page 7
a) The text states that 1,275 SF of impervious area (0.029 acres)
2a) The bypass basin has been renamed and a
was modeled as bypass. The WWHM4 report in Appendix B
screenshot of the model schematic has been
does not have this basin (Basin 2) as a bypass basin. Please
included in the WWHM model output in
reconcile and show a screenshot of the WWHM schematic
Appendix B of the drainage report.
showing the basins with the accompanying basin areas and
the detention pipe icon with the appropriate mode input
information.
b) The allowable release rates from the Edmonds Stormwater
2b) WWHM model has been revised to include
Code Supplement listed in Table 2 are correct. These values,
0.027 acres of lawn tributary to the detention
however, assume all disturbed pervious areas on a site have
system. Results of the model showed no
compost -amended soils so these area essentially generate
significant changes in release rates for all
zero runoff. This is not the case here where the wood chip
three -recurrence intervals; therefore the
play area is assumed to be 50 percent impervious and 50
detention design is unchanged. The report
percent pervious (assume lawn). The model should include
and exhibits have been revised to clarify the
0.027 acres of lawn for sizing the detention system.
impervious and pervious areas, and bypass
area.
3. Appendix B, WWHM4 Report
Why is orifice 1 at an elevation of 0.5 ft?
0.5 ft of dead storage is noted in figure 3.14 of
volume III of the 2005 Department Of Ecology
Stormwater Management Manual For Western
Washington. The bottom 0.5 ft of the pipe will be
used for dead storage.
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Stormwater Engineer Comments — project Drawings
LRD Response
Reviewer: Jerry Shuster, P.E.
1. Sheet C4.3 — Notes and Details
a) Replace the City of Bellevue reference in the "Detention Pipe
1a) The notes have been revised to eliminate
Structural Notes" with the City of Edmonds.
notes that are not needed, and references to
the City of Bellevue have been deleted.
b) Detail 8 references the City of Edmonds drawing No, E5.4.
1b) Detail E5.4 has been added to Sheet C4.3 of
Add this detail drawing to the plan set; an AutoCAD version is
the plan set.
available on our website.
Public Works Comments
LPD Response
1. Install RPBA at water meter, and hot box. Install RPBA or Airgap
The water meter, RPBA, and water service line to
at water tank.
the southern edge of the spraypark project site will
be installed by the Parks Department and are not a
part of this project.
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