Seaview Park PropertyMarch 25, 1980
MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison
Mayor
FROM: Jim Jessel, Manager
Parks and Recreation Division
SUBJECT: SEAVIEW PARK
Attached is a brief progress report on the Seaview Park
Improvement Project for your review.
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March 24, 1980
MEMO TO: Jim Jessel
FROM: Steve Simpson
SUBJECT: SEAVIEW PARK UPDATE
The following is a summary of the actions we have taken at Seaview Park and the
future actions that are needed to help solve the conflicts among user groups
and neighbors.
I. Actions that have been implemented.
A. Revised the hours we schedule the ball field as per resident's petition.
B. Requested Public Works spray mushrooms near rest rooms.
C. Closed rest rooms except during games.
D. Proposed cooperative payment to Vern Weber to correct a fencing problem.
E. Met four times with Seaview concerned citizens group.
F. Proposed an organized summer playground program in the park.
II. Actions waiting for community approval (expected by April 21).
A. Change in the parking plan on surrounding streets.
B. Evening closure of the lower parking lot.
C. Additional signing.
D. Fencing around turfed areas where cars and motorcycles can get into
the park.
E. Additional PUD street lights.
F. Change landscaping on berms to keep kids on bikes from jumping over them.
III. Problems we can't solve.
A. Noise from unscheduled ball games.
B. Social problems, such as intimidation of park users by thugs and drug
use by young people.
SOS/mw
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April 24, 1980
MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison
Mayor
FROM: Jim Jessel, Manager
Parks and Recreation Division
SUBJECT: SEAVIEW PARK
Recreation Staff met with people from the Seaview Park area Wednesday, April 23,
1980. Seaview residents agreed the following changes will reduce the problems
at the park.
PARKING
1. Disallow parking on the south side of 185th Street S.W.
2. Close the southeast parking lot entrance at dusk.
3. Ticket parking violators for illegal parking around the park (rather than
requesting violators to move vehicles).
4. Add sign on park side of 184th that says, "Additional Parking Available at
Lot on 186th and 90th".
CIRCULATION CHANGES
1. Add bollard in walkway on 186th and 80th, to keep cars off walkway.
2. Lock down bollards on walkway on 82nd Ave., and 185th, and the northwest
corner walkway.
3. Add bollard on walkway entrance on 185th and 184th.
CHANGES TO FACILITY
1. Place logs or other obstruction on berm along 80th to prevent bicycles,
trucks and motorcycles from driving over berm.
2. Place a low fence along field on 184th and 185th to keep cars out of field.
3. Fence area behind backstop to catch balls from warmup and practice (keep
balls and kids out of street and neighbors' yards).
4. Add a street light on 186th and 80th P.U.D. pole.
5. Add additional play equipment to children's play area. (Prefer log climbing
type. Community will help construct.)
N ESkiW
1. Sign each street bordering park, "Slow, Children Playing", or "Slow - Playground".
2. Add to 82nd, "Dead End".
SOS/mw
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JUN 12 1980
Execut1VQ Offices
June 12, 1980
MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison, Mavor
FROM: Jim Jessel, Director
Parks and Recreation Department
SUBJECT: SEAVIEW PLAYFIELD
Attached is a petition to remove parking on
185th adjacent to Seaview Plavfield. I recommend
that this petition, as well as the results from
the June 24th Seaview hearing, be reviewed by
the Park Board at its June 25th meeting.
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June 9, 1980
The Honorable Harve Harrison
Mayor, City of Edmonds
City Hall
Edmonds, Washington 98020
RE: 185th Street S.W.
Edmonds, Washington
Dear Mayor Harrison:
This letter is to further express neighborhood
concerns with the parking situation on 185th Street
S.W., and to inform you of a recent conference with
the City Engineer and the Parks Director. The City
Engineer agrees with our position that this street
is inadequate and unsafe for what is occurring here.
The Parks Director suggests that additional space is
needed for parking; inasmuch as a parking lot is pro-
vided and is minimally used, the neighborhood does not
agree with him.
We feel that the problems on 185th Street S.W.
are a direct result of decisions and actions taken by
city officials over the years. This deadend street
was originally one-half improved to a width of 18 feet
in 1968 to save the residences on the south side. The
original approved plans for the development of Seaview
Park provided for improving the remaining 18 feet adjacent
to the park, and for inset parking similar to that along
184th Street S.W. Unbeknownst to the neighborhood, these
plans were arbitrarily changed, and in 1975 when other
improvements to Seaview Park were made, a concrete curb
was installed along the edge of the existing asphalt.
This curb contained the street to a width of 18 feet and
made it nearly impossible for residents to back out of
their driveways. Ron Waley, Administrative Assistant at
that time, admitted that a mistake had been made and that
the street was unacceptably substandard. He proposed
that a curb be removed, another 8 feet of asphalt be
laid in lieu of the 18 feet originally planned, a curb
be reinstalled bringing the total street width to 25 feet,
and that parking be restricted. This seemed reasonable
and was accepted by the neighborhood. Unfortunately, no
action was taken by the city regarding the parking as
The Honorable Harve Harrison
May 23, 1980
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promised, and it has been a continuing problem ever since.
When the city passed an ordinance in 1978 restricting
parking on 184th Street S.W., we again asked that the
city take some action to prevent their parking problem
from being transferred to 185th Street S.W. (See City
Council minutes of October 17, 1978) Again, promises
were made by Leif Larson, but there was no follow through.
The current situation on this 25 foot wide deadend street
is as follows:
a)
used
as a residential access
street,
b)
used
for park parking,
c)
used
for pedestrian access to
the park,
d)
used
as a continuation of the
perimeter park
trail
system,
e)
has a
turn -around area so small
that it requires
vehicles
to back-up into the
street,
e)
has the
turn -around area situated
at the head of the
trail
system leading into the
park.
We feel these are unsafe and conflicting uses, and the City
Engineer agrees with us.
The City Engineer and Parks Director have suggested at
this most recent meeting that the best solution to this
situation is to request funds to remove and reinstall the
curb, widen the street to provide safe parking, and establish
that portion of the trail system within the park rather than
in the street. We don't think this makes much sense. In
addition to the expense involved, it would require the
removal of trees planted in the right-of-way, would not
solve the problem of a back-up turn -around at the head of
the trail system, and would further encourage the unsafe
mix of pedestrian and vehicular use of the street. We con-
tinue to believe that a better, safer, more cost-effective
solution would be to designate the northern 6-8 feet of
the street as a continuation of the park perimeter trail
system, and use 185th Street S.W. for residential access
rather than for park parking.
The Honorable Harve Harrison
May 23, 1980
Page three
The neighborhood continues to remain hopeful that
we can reach a mutually acceptable safe and common-sense
solution to the use of this street. We wish to have the
opportunity to participate in any further plans and
decisions regarding this matter.
Sincerely,
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July 8, 1980
MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison
Mayor
FROM: Stephen 0. Simpson
Recreation Administrator
Parks and Recreation Dept.
SUBJECT: SEAVIEW PARK
The City applied for and expects to receive a CETA
position to patrol parks for safety and security,
rule violations, and city/neighbor conflicts at no
cost to the City.
The person hired in the position will concentrate
his/her efforts at Seaview Park. Any extra time
will be spent in other park neighborhoods to head
off similar problems.
In newspaper articles highlighting the Park, Seaview
area residents will be asked to use the Park more and
to join the patrol effort. The park security person
will enhance this information campaign with door-to-
door, person -to -person contacts.
A moped, small motorcycle, or bicycle will be needed
for transportation in and around Seaview Park and
between it and other parks.
SOS/mw
June 17, 1980
MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison
Mayor
FROM. Jim Jessel, Director
Parks and Recreation Dept.
SUBJECT: DISCUSSION ON SEAVIEW PARK PROBLEM
At the June 10 City Council Meeting, Mrs. Van Thorndyke, a neighbor of
Seaview Park playfield, requested that the existing backstop be removed
or moved elsewhere on the playfield, to reduce the noise level in her
house. As we all know, the noise level problem is but one of the many
considerations (parking, intimidation, scheduling, narcotics, vandalism,
etc.) that the Seaview Task Force is working to resolve. Many or most
of these problems can be traced to the design of the Park, which did
not altogether consider the impacts of a ball field being located in
a residential neighborhood.
There are changes which could be made to Seaview playfield which would
reduce the noise level by providing additional buffering from the neigh-
bors. The backstop relocation changes as shown on the attached drawings
would cost approximately $8,000, which includes irrigation system changes
and landscaping costs.
Factors that should be considered in any changes to the ball field in-
clude:
1. All of our community surveys and Task Force recommendations do
not consider noise as a generalized problem throughout the
neighborhood.
2. If there is any reduction to the playfield size which would
eliminate neighborhood adult usage, additional fencing
(approximately $2,500) should be considered at Sierra Park to
accommodate the transferred adult play.
3. That a reduction or increase of scheduled games on the play -
field will not eliminate noise. The Seaview neighborhood has
historically, and rightfully, moved onto the ball field as
soon as scheduled games are through.
As noted at the June 16 Council Meeting, any changes recommended for
Seaview Playfield will be heard at the June 25 Park Board Meeting.
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