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Architectural Design Board
Remote Zoom Meeting
Agenda
121 5th Ave. N.
Edmonds, WA 98020
www.edmondswa.gov
Michelle Martin
425-771-0220
Wednesday, October 6, 2021 7:00 PM Virtual Online Meeting
Remote Meeting Information
Join Zoom Meeting at:
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I. Call to Order
Attendee Name Present Absent Late Arrived
II. Public Portion
A. Audience Comment
III. Approval of Minutes
1. Generic Agenda Item (ID # 5821)
Approval of Minutes
Background/History
Request approval of July 21st meeting minutes.
Staff Recommendation
Review and approve minutes.
ATTACHMENTS:
• ADB210721_Complete transcript edited pending approval_mm (PDF)
IV. Approval of Agenda
11. Board Discussion
1. Generic Agenda Item (ID # 5826)
Multifamily Design Standards: Initial Discussion and Board Feedback
Background/History
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Remote Zoom Meeting Agenda October 6, 2021
On June 24, 2021, City Council formally asked staff to begin the code amendment process for
multifamily design standards. These standards were part of a larger list of housing related policy options
recommended by the Citizen's Housing Commission. Then on September 7, 2021, City Council asked that
green space requirements also be considered for this possible amendment. The City Council minutes
pertaining to this topic are provided (Attachment 1).
Staff Recommendation
No recommendation at this time.
ATTACHMENTS:
• Attachment 1- City Council Minutes (Abbreviated) (PDF)
• Attachment 2 - Presentation (Draft) (PDF)
V. ADB Member Comments
VI. Adjournment
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Architectural Design Board Agenda Item
Meeting Date: 10/6/2021
Approval of Minutes
Staff Lead: Eric Engmann
Department: Development Services
Prepared By: Michelle Martin
Background/History
Request approval of July 21st meeting minutes.
Staff Recommendation
Review and approve minutes.
Narrative
Meeting minutes attached.
Attachments:
ADB210721_Complete transcript edited pending approval_mm
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CITY OF EDMONDS ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD
Minutes of Virtual Meeting
Via Zoom
July 21, 2021
Chair Lauri Strauss called the virtual meeting of the Edmonds Planning Board to order at 7:00 p.m.
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT
Lauri Strauss
Bruce Owensby
Maurine Jeude
Kim Bayer
Joe Herr
BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT
STAFF PRESENT
Kernen Lien, Environmental Programs Manager
Kernen Lien:
Go for it.
Lauri Strauss:
Okay. So, let's call this meeting to order. Should we have a role call?
Kernen Lien:
Lauri Strauss?
Lauri Strauss:
Here.
Kernen Lien:
Bruce Owensby?
Bruce Owensby:
Here.
Kernen Lien:
Maurine Jeude?
Lauri Strauss:
Maurine is on mute still.
Joe Herr:
She's on the mute, yeah.
Kernen Lien:
Mute, but here. There she comes.
Lauri Strauss:
Here she comes. Okay.
Maurine Jeude:
I'm here. I'm sorry.
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Thanks Maurine.
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Kernen Lien:
Kim Bayer?
Kim Bayer:
Here.
Kernen Lien:
And Joe Herr?
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Here.
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I believe that's all the ADB members we have at the moment.
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I need a motion to approve.
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Lauri Strauss: Okay, I didn't.
Kim Bayer: I went, "Oh, who's the male speaker and female speaker?" But, yeah.
Bruce Owensby: I think it caught everything. I think the recording just catches everything
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Kim Bayer: Yeah. It caught everything, so...
Lauri Strauss: Okay, so the minutes are approved. Do we have an audience? Do we have any audience comments for
tonight?
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So, we will go on to the public meeting. This is a wastewater treatment plant. Kernen, you wanna take over
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Kernen Lien: Then I will share my screen
All right. Everybody can see my screen?
Bruce Owesnby: Yes.
Kim Bayer: Yes.
Kernen Lien: All righty, then we'll get rolling.
So, I'll give an overview of the review process for this project, we'll give a broad overview of the proposal,
my presentation and recommendation. The applicant is here; we got Phil Williams, the Director of Public Works, Steve
Porterman from Landel, Lonn Inman from — I forget the name of that firm, but they're also working on the wastewater
treatment plant carbon —
Phil Williams: Amaresco Quantum.
Kernen Lien: So, this is one of the projects that the ADB just holds a public meeting and not a public hearing on it. There's
actually three permits that are associated with the wastewater treatment project. There's two variances: one for carbon filter,
one for loading dock that would be located within the setback, and then there's design review because design review is required
for public providence as well.
There's two different permit types. So, a variance is a Type III -A, and design review is Type III-B. The
difference between those two is III-B is appealable to the Hearings Examiner, whereas variances — are appealable to the city
council, whereas variances are not. Wait, I have that backwards; III -Bs are appealable to the city council, where III -As are not.
And I think I have these labelled wrong. So, the variances are III -Bs, where design review is a III -A.
And they're consolidated; when a type III -A and III-B permits are consolidated, that follows the III -A
process. So, in total, this project would not be appealable to the city council, it would be only appealable to the superior court.
When we have these consolidated processes like this, the ADB holds a public meeting and makes a recommendation to the
Hearings Examiner. The ADB's meeting is only a public meeting because there are restrictions against — to open records public
hearings.
Phil, I see a Kyle Jones here. Should they be let in as well?
Phil Williams: Yes, thank you.
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Kemen Lien: Yes. Okay. We'll let them in.
So, like with all ADB projects, this is not subject to a district design review, so it's just general design review
standards in the comprehensive plan. The aspects of this project that have any design part to it are pretty limited, and of course
we reviewed for consistence for the zoning. Apart from the variance request, it will be consistent with the zone.
Oh, Kyle didn't make it in. Hmm, there we go.
So, the wastewater treatment plant located on the southeast corner of State Route 104 and Dayton Street. It's N
Zone P. We got Harbor Square across the street. It's primary wetland south of the site, and some residential development
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down here on this corner of the wastewater treatment plant, where the carbon filter will be going in. So, this is that zoom in to
that area. So, the red box there is kinda that area that they're gonna have to clear out for construction activities. The carbon
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filter, which will be one aspect of the variance of it, is gonna be located on kind of a catwalk that exists on the west side of the
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wastewater treatment plant already. Then there's a loading dock that's gonna be installed here, and a door that would be installed
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on the side of the building there as well.
So, variances would be for the loading dock and this because it's located within the setbacks. Some other
aspects to this: there's a wetland south of the site; the green dash line that you see here is actually the wetland buffer that's
associated with that. I included the critical area report in my staff report. And so, there's gonna be some mitigation for the
critical area involved with that.
You can add to existing structures within the wetland buffer. This would be less than 200 square feet. So, the mitigation
ratio is at 3:1 because it's less than 300 and there's gonna be some mitigation in here for that. And the trees that they cut down,
they're gonna put over in the wetland buffer for LWD. Just not really part of ADB's review, but it's part of the bigger project
on this.
Existing conditions, this is really where we're looking at. I believe this is pretty close to where that loading
ramp would be loaded, and that carbon filter is gonna be placed over there. So, kinda the vegetation that you see in this area is
what would be removed with this project and replanted. That's that catwalk that I mentioned on the side of the building, so you
can kinda see it right there — and it's the end of the catwalk that runs along there. And back over here is where they're gonna
be placing that carbon filter.
If you want some details about why they're doing the project, when the Public Works goes, I'll let them get
into the technicality of it. But they're basically replacing the biosolids incinerator with a newer technology is my understanding
of that. You can talk about it later, Phil, when you'll see me on mute.
So, it's in the P Zone. Some of those standards that would apply to this is setbacks. There's a 25' setback for
structures in the P Zone. This building is already — I think about 7 'h' from the property line. So, right now it's not beating the
setback, so that's why the variance is required for adding anything new within that setback area.
16.80.030 requires that setback to be fully landscaped. So, there's not much of a setback there, but there's
gonna be some landscaping also within the State Route 104 right away there. And also, the P Zone has a 25' height limit if
there's not a conditional use or something associated with it. So, this is the only elevation view that I had for the carbon filter
project. So, this is the existing wastewater treatment building. This is the carbon filter, and there'd be some pipes going into
the building there. And looked at this for height too; the maximum height is 42, and this falls in underneath that. Kind of a
bigger view of the elevation view of that.
Okay. And this is the primary design review aspect of this. There's gonna be a lot of vegetation that was
removed for this. The setback's supposed to be fully landscaped. The property line would be kinda running right about here
through there, so there's gonna be a lot of landscaping within the right of way and between the building. The carbon filter
would be sitting over right about here.
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One of the important design criteria would be that mechanical equipment is supposed to be screened from
the street view of that. Most of the vegetation that proposed to be planted here is evergreen vegetation. I would say Type III
landscaping would be required, which would have trees at least every 20' on center. There's more that meets that, I think would
do a pretty good job of screening the carbon filter, which is gonna be over here. This area over here was an additional planting
overlay area that they have that — there's a path here that runs to the southside of the wastewater treatment plant over along the
marsh and kind of a little picnic area over there. I don't know who picnics over near the wastewater treatment plant but there
is a little area over there next to the wetland on that.
So, not a whole lot of criteria to apply to this project. I think the landscaping is kind of the biggest thing. It's
an existing building that is not gonna change much. There will be a door that's installed there, didn't really have a good c
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recommend approval of design review to the Hearings Examiner. And with that, I'm happy to take any questions on here or a
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Phil Williams: And as you can imagine from the name of the technology, not exactly carbon friendly. So, when you take all
of the biosolids that we collect, remove from the wastewater as we receive it, and then more biosolids that are produced by the
process — the biological growth — we take all that, dewater it currently, and then throw it into the incinerator and burn it up at
about 1,450' Fahrenheit. So, pretty much every molecule of carbon goes up as CO2.
We have lots of air pollution control equipment attached to it to keep certain really objectionable pollutants
from being discharged at levels above highly regulated standards that we have to meet. But from a carbon perspective, it's a
complete loss.
So, what this project uses is a different technology; it's a thermal process, as is incineration, but certainly not
at 1,450' where you just immediately combust the organic matter. You heat it up, and instead of incineration, which supplies
lots of oxygen to make the combustion process go forward, we do it in the absence of oxygen, so you're heating up all this
organic matter to about half that temperature and it makes the biosolids sort of evolve and exude gases right out of the organic
matter. Some of that's methane, some of it is CO2 which can be combined there and burned, and it's called syngas, and so we
then take the gas that's produced, and instead of having it burn with biosolids, we burn it offline cleanly and use the heat to
heat the biosolids.
So, you're recycling the energy content in the biosolids and a large amount of it is leftover after it's dried as
essentially pure carbon, which we will call biochar, that's the name for it in the industry. And biochar has a lot of recyclable
markets you can access with that. So, instead of putting that carbon up the stack, you're recapturing it as a soil conditioner or
filtering media. There's a wide variety of uses that you can put it to.
So, we think it's a big step forward from an environmental perspective, from an energy -consumption
perspective, and also efficiency of operation; we can run it 24 hours -a -day, not have to start it and stop it like an incinerator
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where we use diesel fuel to do that now. It's a real winner from a technology standpoint. And I'll just say, as $26 million
project, it's the biggest single project we've really ever done as a capital project here in Edmonds.
Lauri Strauss: Whoa, that's great.
Kim Bayer: I have a question.
Lauri Strauss: Kim, would you like to ask your question?
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carbon filter added, it will be just 1' from the lot line? Or did I read that wrong?
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Kernen Lien: That one?
Phil Williams: No. The one that shows the walkway. That, right there.
So, this carbon filter, if that's the one you're asking about, would be located right on top of that. That's
actually a walkway that's half -buried and half -exposed concrete. And the carbon filter would be placed right on top of that.
And I think it overhangs by 1' outside of that current footprint. I believe that's probably what you were referring to by the 1'.
Kim Bayer: Oh, yeah.
Kernen Lien: Right. So, this here — the edge of this walkway is what's 7 'h' from their property line right now. Let me go
up one. So, you can see the property line, that's the dashed line right here. So, the carbon filter's gonna be back about 5' from
their property line. What's gonna be 1' from the property line would be this loading dock when it's constructed right there. So,
that's what would be 1' from their property line, and the carbon filter would be 5' from their property line sitting on top of that.
Phil Williams: Kernen, if you would let me, I might mention that the reason why we're building that — it is expected to be
temporary, but first thing we're gonna do out there is cut a hole inside of the building right where that platform is because we
have to remove all of the stuff that's in that incinerator room just to the right, just to the east of where that platform is. The
incinerator has to be completely demoed right off the bat.
It hasn't been in operation for several weeks now. And we're waiting on these permits so that we can cut the
hole in the building and start cutting up all the piping in the incinerator and then putting it out on that loading dock so that we
can get it out and off the site, and as much as we can, recycled. And then once we've cleaned up the space, we can start loading
the new equipment back in for assembly.
Kim Bayer: Okay. Thanks, that —
Lauri Strauss: I was curious about that too. So, you're saying that that's temporary. So, you're not going to be driving up to
that everyday and dropping something off. Is that kind of the —
Phil Williams: Well, we'll be pulling trucks that — basically in that kinda that red polygon you see on there, we have to have
a lot of equipment taken from where it's either currently stored. Some of this will be brought just -in -time, but there's a lot of
it already stored that needs to be shuffled around, come back again on the highway on a flatbed, and then back in there so that
a crane can pick it off and set it up there where it can be moved into the building. And then the truck will leave and another
one will come a day or two later, whatever, with more stuff. That's the only way we can do that is — and we've worked with —
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Lauri Strauss: No, what I'm saying is it's not gonna be like a regular dock, where every day — after the construction is done,
you're not gonna —
Phil Williams: No.
Lauri Strauss: You don't plan on using that very often?
Phil Williams: It is not our plan at this time at all to have that in place after the project.
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If we did decide to try to do that, that'd be a separate process. But, that's not our thinking at this time.
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Lonn Inman: I was just gonna clarify a little bit in the picture that you have there Kernen. You can see the purple -dashed
rectangle, that is the — that signifies the dimensions of the, what we call the "loading dock" or the "dance floor", if you will,
during construction. It's about 12' wide x 25' long, and you can see how the square — it's divided in two right now. So, [audio
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Phil Williams: Uh-oh.
Kernen Lien: He's kinda logged out, but I think he was saying what I was gonna say. There's another aspect to it, so you
can see the blue square over here would be a permanent loading dock that would be in place post -project. Something that's
being considered for future maintenance.
Phil Williams: Upon our property, the part that's —
Kernen Lien: Yeah, yeah.
Phil Williams: Yeah.
Kim Bayer: So, would there be vegetation at all, from the — you're in the ferry line and looking east, would you see what
you just showed, but with a door? And obviously an in and out.
Kernen Lien: I'm trying to stop here. Okay. So, this is the replanting plan that's proposed by Lonn over there, so that's the
loading dock position. There would be some shrubs in here, but no trees. So, you would still be able to see in there similar to —
which way am I going? Where's the photo?
So, there'd be more ground cover in this area. No trees to hide the door because with that loading dock there,
you're gonna want to get to it at some point in time because you do still have to get to the door.
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Phil Williams: It wouldn't be something we'd use frequently.
Kernen Lien: Yeah.
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Phil Williams: It's not something that we would use every day.
Lauri Strauss: That was my question, yeah.
Anything else from anyone? Questions?
Joe Herr: I don't have a question, but I have a statement. So, let's just talk about — it is an existing building. Right now,
the landscaping hides it fairly well and they're going to replace that landscaping. We're going to be taking an outdated
technology and replacing it with something that's much more environmentally conscience. The really — the only people who N
ever sort of view this — and even if they do, they're sitting in their car waiting for the ferry. It's not — when you're leaving from
the ferry, man, I drive right on by there without even kinda glancing at that because on the right-hand side, you've got the c
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Lauri Strauss: I agree with you, Joe.
Kernen Lien: And Joe's comments about what you would see there — so, even if there was kind of a direct view straight in
in this area here, people driving up and down State Route 104 never gonna get a view at it because they'll be trees on both sides
of it kinda blocking that view, and it would really — maybe people exiting Harbor Square in this location would be the only
ones that would really get a straight shot at it.
Phil Williams: Well, I would just say as treatment plants go, it's not as ugly as most.
Joe Herr: Oh, no. I agree.
Phil Williams: A lot of care was taken many, many years ago. Long before I got here. Try to do that in a way that even if
you did see it, it wouldn't be all that objectionable.
Joe Herr: I agree. I looked at that building for a long time before I really knew what it was, because it just is nicely
done.
Lauri Strauss: Any other questions from the board?
Bruce Owensby: Not from me.
Kim Bayer: For me.
Lauri Strauss: Okay. Well, should we make a motion? I have a motion I could read.
Bruce Owensby: I'd read the motion.
Lauri Strauss: Okay. Let's read the motion.
"The Architectural Design Board adopts the findings, conclusions, and analysis of the staff report enfiled
PLN 2021-0030 and finds the proposal as consistent with the comprehensive plan design criteria of ECDC 20.11.030 and
zoning regulations, and recommends that the Hearing Examiner approve the design of the proposed wastewater treatment plant
recovery project."
Any second?
Bruce Owensby: I second it.
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Lauri Strauss: All in favor? Any other discussion?
Bruce Owensby: Aye.
All: Aye.
Lauri Strauss: Okay. Motion is passed.
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Joe Herr: Hey, Phil.
Phil Williams: Yes?
Joe Herr: Real quick. What's your timeline once you get approval? What kind of thing — how long do you think it's
gonna take?
Phil Williams: Oh, thank you for asking. Well, we're in a hurry to get started. A little bit later than we'd hoped right now,
but we wanna get the bulk of this construction done so we can start the system up. There's a lot of tests that we'll have to go
through, but we want it to be in production processing biosolids by the really wet portions of the year, if we can. Because
otherwise right now, we're hauling every shred of biosolids by truck and rail to the big landfills in eastern Oregon. I think we're
going to Waste Management, aren't we Lonn? Or are we going to Ally? I think we're going to Waste Management, but...
Lonn Inman: Waste Management by railcar.
Phil Williams: Yeah.
Lauri Strauss: Whoa.
Phil Williams: And so, that's expensive as heck.
Lauri Strauss: Yeah.
Phil Williams: It'd be much less costly if we could process it on site.
Bruce Owensby: That's great.
Lonn Inman: Generally speaking, we're talking about roughly seven months of demolition and construction until we
achieve the point where the equipment can start to be commissioned and operated. And then, by about the total of nine months
elapsed construction, we should be at full biosolids processing.
Kernen Lien: Cool.
Lauri Strauss: Whoa. So, you're going to be hauling waste for the next nine months.
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Phil Williams: Partially. It'll drop down as soon as we can start it up, it'll be processing some of it. And then our hauling
drops off until we get it in complete production, yeah.
Lauri Strauss: Yeah, okay. Good. All right, should we — there is — the next thing on the agenda was ADB member comments.
Any comments from the board they wanna discuss?
Bruce Owensby: I think it's a great project. I think it'll do a lot of good things.
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Lauri Strauss: They're comments.
Kim Bayer: Pipe — what is it? What is it called? Pine Park project?
Lauri Strauss: Yeah.
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Kim Bayer: Is that the providence one? So, I know that that needed to be approved for the subdivision. What is the
process, and has that happened yet?
Kernen Lien: So, they had actually applied — so, this was the project on Fifth, right?
Kim Bayer: Right, right.
Kernen Lien: Pine Park something or other. Yeah so, they had applied for a code amendment to allow — Phil, you don't
have to stick around to listen to all this if you don't want.
Phil Williams: Okay.
Kernen Lien: Unless you find it interesting.
Phil Williams: If it wouldn't offend anybody, I'll just take off then. Thank you.
Kernen Lien: Thank you.
Joe Herr: Thanks, Phil.
Lauri Strauss: Thanks, Phil.
Phil Williams: And thanks to our team too, so ... Bye.
Bruce Owensby: Thank you.
Kernen Lien: So, they applied for a code amendment that would allow unit lot subdivisions in the BD zones as well. So,
right now unit lot subdivisions are only allowed in the RM zones, Westgate, and I think maybe the CD zones. And it's not
currently allowed in the BD zones. So, they applied for a code amendment for that. I believe the public hearing on that before
city council was next week. So, they haven't applied for the subdivision yet, and we'll see if the city council actually approves
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the code amendment; I'm not sure how amenable they have been to considering the townhouse subdivisions in the BV zones,
I haven't been following it that closely. But it has to be approved from council.
Even if that wasn't approved, they could still go forward with the project and do the condo process to divide
it that way, it's just a different process in a unit lot subdivision.
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Lauri Strauss: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, we're almost to the airport, so if there's no other comments, I move to adjourn the
meeting. I think we're done.
Kernen Lien: All right. Thanks for meeting on a different night than your regular meeting, this was kind of a time -sensitive
project. Trying to get everybody to —
Bruce Owensby: No problem. More —
Joe Herr: Hey Lauri? Lauri?
Lauri Strauss: Yeah?
Joe Herr: I'm glad you said you're in the car because I am watching you, and I'm like, "Why is that girl fidgeting
around like that?"
Lauri Strauss: Bouncing everywhere. You missed — I
Joe Herr: You're bumping.
Lauri Strauss: I said at the beginning kinda off the record that I'm in a car, I'm not driving. I'm riding. But it's very bumpy
down I-5.
Joe Herr: I missed that part because I'm like, "Whoa, what is going on over there?"
Lauri Strauss: No, I'm very nervous.
Joe Herr: All right. Okay, all right. Good meeting everybody. See ya.
Lauri Strauss: All right guys.
Bruce Owensby: Good seeing you guys.
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Lauri Strauss: All right. We'll talk to you later.
Bruce Owensby: Take care.
Kim Bayer: Take care.
Joe Herr: Yeah. Hey Bruce, we gotta have a beer soon.
Bruce Owensby: Hey, give me a call.
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Architectural Design Board Agenda Item
Meeting Date: 10/6/2021
Multifamily Design Standards: Initial Discussion and Board Feedback
Staff Lead: Eric Engmann
Department: Planning Division
Prepared By: Eric Engmann
Background/History
On June 24, 2021, City Council formally asked staff to begin the code amendment process for
multifamily design standards. These standards were part of a larger list of housing related policy options
recommended by the Citizen's Housing Commission. Then on September 7, 2021, City Council asked that
green space requirements also be considered for this possible amendment. The City Council minutes
pertaining to this topic are provided (Attachment 1).
Staff Recommendation
No recommendation at this time.
Narrative
Today's discussion has two main objectives; introduce the Architectural Design Board (ADB) to the
anticipated multifamily design code amendment process and hear initial feedback from ADB about the
current design review process. See the draft presentation for more generalized information (Attachment
2).
1) Information about Goals and Process
Staff will introduce the goal of creating effective and workable guidelines. The intend will be to address
compatibility and create high -quality design principles. This will start out by offering insight about the
proposed process. There will be discussion about the three phases of the code amendment: formation,
articulation, and adoption.
As part of this initial overview, there will be discussion about several of the key factors that need to be
considered. These are:
Reviewing Goals and Policy Directives
Establishing the Project Scope
Reviewing Criteria Considerations
Identifying Stakeholders
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One of the earliest components of the formation stage of the project is to interview and discuss this
topic with stakeholders. These stakeholders are individuals or groups that are familiar with this topic
and/or have major interest in the outcome.
2) ADB Interview and Feedback
The second part of the meeting will involve discussing the current design review process with ADB. The
ADB plays a major role in creating these new policies and standards. The ADB has the technical
knowledge and experience reviewing many of the past developments for design and form. The Board
will be asked some general questions, what works with the current process, what doesn't work, what
needs refinement, and what should be added. This helps to establish the issue at hand and options to
create better multifamily design standards.
Following this ADB meeting, staff will be sending out surveys to the board members to further refine
and narrow in on current issues and possible solutions.
Action Needed
No action is needed at this time. This is an informational discussion as part of a larger code amendment
(update) effort.
Attachments:
Attachment 1- City Council Minutes (Abbreviated)
Attachment 2 - Presentation (Draft)
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EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL VIRTUAL ONLINE MEETING
APPROVED MINUTES
June 24, 2021
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Susan Paine, Council President
Kristiana Johnson, Councilmember
Luke Distelhorst, Councilmember
Diane Buckshnis, Councilmember
Vivian Olson, Councilmember
ELECTED OFFICIALS ABSENT
Mike Nelson, Mayor
Adrienne Fraley-Monillas, Councilmember
Laura Johnson, Councilmember
1. CALL TO ORDER
STAFF PRESENT
Shane Hope, Development Services Director
Jeff Taraday, City Attorney
Scott Passey, City Clerk
Dave Rohde, GIS Analyst
The Edmonds City Council virtual online meeting was called to order at 4:30 p.m. by Council President
Paine.
2. LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
Councilmember Olson read the City Council Land Acknowledgement Statement: "We acknowledge the
original inhabitants of this place, the Sdohobsh (Snohomish) people and their successors the Tulalip Tribes,
who since time immemorial have hunted, fished, gathered, and taken care of these lands. We respect their
sovereignty, their right to self-determination, and we honor their sacred spiritual connection with the land
and water."
3. ROLL CALL
City Clerk Scott Passey called the roll. All elected officials were present participating remotely, with
the exception of Councilmembers L. Johnson and Fraley-Monillas, and Mayor Nelson.
Council President Paine reported Councilmembers Fraley-Monillas and L. Johnson had conflicts and
were excused from attendance today.
Councilmember K. Johnson requested Approval of the Agenda be added to the agenda.
Councilmember Distelhorst raised a point of order, commenting this was a special meeting.
Council President Paine said it was her understanding the Council had to stick to the agenda but the
Council could approve it.
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seen successful cluster housing in Shoreline. A presentation to Snohomish County Tomorrow
illustrated how this concept had been used successfully by ARCH in the past. She still preferred to do the
larger vision, looking at subareas, neighborhood and the environment first. She summarized cluster/
cottage housing could be advantageous to the environment if done properly.
Councilmember K. Johnson said the City did not currently have cluster/cottage housing. Councilmember
Olson may be referring to planned residential developments (PRD) which locate houses closer together to
save the environment. Councilmember K. Johnson said she was lukewarm on this topic and it was
not something she wanted to move ahead with but she was very intrigued. Churches in Edmonds seem to
be located on some of the largest parcels; she wondered if this would be an appropriate use of their land
and could it be zoned in a way or regulations developed in such a way that they could have their own
cluster housing to support their immigrant, homeless, or senior populations. Ms. Hope said that could be
one of the ways the City could go. There are currently have a few PRDs in Edmonds; cluster /cottage
housing is smaller units and probably some extra units that have a smaller footprint, have their own
parking and open space. It possibly could be designed to take advantage of large parcels, perhaps
owned by a church or someone else. Councilmember K. Johnson summarized this was not her highest
priority but she was very interested in learning more about it.
Councilmember Distelhorst said in addition to PRDs, there are also Unit Lot Subdivision (ULS).
Some ULS are close to cluster/cottage housing, but the lots are approximately 2400 square feet which is
bigger than traditional cluster/cottage housing. He would love to see the Planning Board evaluate this,
observing as Councilmember Buckshnis stated, this is a very popular option with non-profit housing
organizations; Housing Hope and HASCO are both involved with properties that use a cluster/cottage
housing model. He relayed this recommendation had unanimous support from the Housing Commission.
Council President Paine said she has seen examples of this in other cities and would love to
see cluster/cottage housing treated similar to multifamily design standards so there would be visuals. This
could be a way to provide flexibility, preserve large trees and native growth, and be environmentally
sensitive. There needs to be a strong environmental review of all the Housing Commission
recommendations to ensure environmental, sustainability and conservation strategies are front loaded
into the process. She supported having this recommendation go to both the ADB and the Planning
Board. She agreed super large houses were not the best use of the City's limited land.
Ms. Hope summarized there was interest in the topic, some were not ready to move it on right now, but
it could be revisited later.
Multifamilv Design Standards (tonic normally subiect to Planning Board review
• Housing Commission recommendation:
o Enhance current design standards of new multifamily dwellings to maintain and enhance the
unique characteristics of the Edmonds community. Building types would include mixed use
buildings, small multifamily building and large multifamily buildings.
Note: Additional explanation is contained in the Commission's statement
• Multifamily Design Standards — Improving Design
o City currently has no design standards except in Gateway, Highway 99 or downtown)
o Examples of design standards
■ Neighborhood Focused Elements
■ Massing and Scale
■ Variety of Building Materials
■ Front Entry Features
■ Connections and "Presence" along Sidewalk
■ Better Context for Design Approvals
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■ Treatment between Sidewalk & Building
■ Weather Protection for Pedestrians
■ Garage/Parking Placement
Some relevant Comprehensive Plan Goals or Policies from Comprehensive Plan Housing Element
o (Housing Goal J) Recognize that in addition to traditional height and bulk standards, design is
an important aspect of housing and determines, in many cases, whether or not it is compatible
with its surroundings.
o (11) Provide design guidelines that encourage flexibility in housing types while ensuring
compatibility of housing with the surrounding neighborhood.
Some relevant Comprehensive Plan Goals or Policies from Sustainability Element
o (A.1) Adopt a system of codes, standards, and incentives to promote development that achieves
growth management goals while maintaining Edmonds' community character and charm in a
sustainable way.
o (A.2) Include urban form and design as critical components of sustainable land use planning.
Some relevant Comprehensive Plan Goals or Policies from Community Culture and Urban Design
Element
o (Design Goal A) Design goals and objectives (should)... guide future development to result in
high quality, well designed and sensitive projects that reflect the values of the citizens of
Edmonds (including to):
■ Improve physical appearance and character
■ Improve retail and pedestrian circulation options
■ Protect natural environments using sustainable design practices
■ Protect and enhance the residential character of Edmonds
If Planning Board reviews and makes recommendations on this, what process would happen?
1. Multiple public meetings/hearing by PB (incl. in person meetings)
2. Visual preference surveys/exercises
3. Online info, media announcements, & other outreach/public input
4. Public meeting(s) and input from the Architectural Design Board
5. Eventual more detailed recommendation (whether in opposition or support) for proposal to City
Council probably in spring 2022
6. Subsequent City Council consideration of Planning Board's detailed recommendation
(including minutes & public comments
7. Additional community input, information, & Council public meetings
8. Council decision whether to reject, revise, or approve the Planning Board's detailed
recommendation
What kinds of things should Planning Board consider for multifamily design standards?
o Architectural appearance
o Windows and doors
o Location of garages & parking
o Pedestrian accessibility
o Landscaping
o Outdoor lighting
o Open space
o Orientation of building to street
o Building materials
o Placement of outdoor utility equipment
o Site plan
o Entry features
o Neighborhood context
Possible Next Steps
o Council questions & discussion tonight
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Should Planning Board be asked to work on options for Multifamily Design Standards &
seek more public input? If so:
- Planning Board could aim to have a recommendation back to City Council by spring
2022 for more consideration & public input.
- Planning Board would consider possible design standards for townhomes and
multifamily development, including building appearance, site layout, open space, and
other issues.
Councilmember Buckshnis asked if there were multifamily design standards for Highway 99. Ms. Hope
answered there are three areas with design standards: Highway 99 where the most work done as they were
part of an EIS, the Gateway area, and downtown has some design standards in the zoning code. There are
many other areas of the City that do not have design standards. Councilmember Buckshnis commented she
was very interested in multifamily design standards as they are long overdue. She recognized there would
need to be density in some areas. She referred to the two Compass buildings on SR 104 as examples of the
need for multifamily design standards.
Councilmember Olson said she was very excited about this and enthusiastic about moving it forward. She
was a fan of courtyard apartment complexes and complexes with more attention to detail would be an
enhancement to the overall look and feel of the City. She was excited to have the ADB and Planning Board
involved.
Councilmember K. Johnson expressed her enthusiastic support for this recommendation and moving it
forward to the ADB and Planning Board. A lot can be learned by a visual preference survey especially
examples of what works and doesn't work in Edmonds.
Councilmember Distelhorst expressed support, relaying that it was unanimously supported by the Housing
Commission.
Council President Paine agreed this was long overdue and she was excited about it. She asked if it would
go to the ADB first followed by the Planning Board. Ms. Hope envisioned a dual, iterative process as each
board will inform the other. Council President Paine said after working in Seattle particularly with
multifamily townhouses and unit lot subdivisions, Edmonds has dodged a huge bullet not having
multifamily design standards and has avoided some of the design problems in nearby communities. She
supported moving this forward right away.
Ms. Hope summarized there was concurrence to move this forward to the Planning Board and ADB and
with the public, to be thoughtful about the context for the local neighborhoods with better quality design.
Community and Regional Partners (topic not normally subject to Planning Board review)
• Housing Commission Recommendation
o Edmonds needs more affordable housing options for:
■ Low/moderate income residents (especially those who earn less than 50% of AMI)
■ Special needs residents
■ Seniors
■ Veterans ...
o This policy establishes community partnerships with for profit/non-profits to build affordable
housing...
o (Additional information is contained in the Commission's statement.)
• Some relevant Comprehensive Plan Goals or Policies from Housing Element
o Encourage adequate housing opportunities for all families and individuals in the community
regardless of their race, age, sex, religion, disability or economic circumstances.
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Council President Paine asked if this would cover CC&Rs and bylaws associated with existing
HOA documents. She recalled when she lived in a condo, their age restrictions did not allow children
over the age of five. She was in favor of the Council pursuing this recommendation. She asked if it
include CC&Rs, noting it may be useful to provide education to condominium. Mr. Taraday answered the
same review could apply to condominiums and subdivision homeowner documents.
Ms. Hope summarized there was consensus to move forward on this recommendation.
Council President Paine thanked everyone for attending.
Recognizing this may be Ms. Hope's last meeting before her retirement, Councilmember
Distelhorst congratulated and thanked her for her service to Edmonds and other cities in the region.
He thanked Councilmembers for attending the study session and having this discussion. He pointed out
there were a lot of resources available; the Housing Commission looked at a lot of them and he was
sure Ms. Hope and other planning staff who supported Housing Commission could share that
information so Councilmembers could see the same data that the Housing Commission considered in
making their recommendations. He encouraged Councilmembers to ask staff, Councilmember Olson or
him for more information.
Councilmember Buckshnis commented this was Ms. Hope's last hurrah. Having known her before she
was an employee of Edmonds, Councilmember Buckshnis said Ms. Hope had always been a rock star.
She was happy for Ms. Hope to retire but sad for the City as her departure would leave a big hole. She
wished her the best and expressed her thanks for the help she has given her all these years. Ms. Hope said
she will miss the Council and many people in the community. She always tried to give professional
advice, bring information whether she agreed with it or not, and help the process. She expressed
appreciation for the Council's efforts and assured things will continue on and hopefully she has been a
help.
Councilmember K. Johnson added her thanks to Ms. Hope for all the work she done for the community,
the City, and for the Council. She has appreciated her professionalism and that she never lost her cool in
tight spots. She asked who would be the Acting Development Services Director. Ms. Hope advised Rob
Chave will be the Acting Development Services Director. HR started the recruitment process not long
after she gave her notice. Councilmember K. Johnson said Ms. Hope has worked hard and deserves
the next phase of her life; she wished her happiness and success.
Council President Paine expressed her appreciation to Ms. Hope, commenting she has known her
since before she was on Council. She has great leadership qualities and Edmonds has benefitted from
them. Council President Paine assured Ms. Hope she will be missed, but it will be great for her to spend
time with her family.
7. ADJOURN
With no further business, the Council meeting was adjourned at 6:27 p.m.
MICHAEL NELSON, MAYOR SCOTT PASSEY, CITY CLERK
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EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL
VIRTUAL ONLINE MEETING
APPROVED MINUTES
September 7, 2021
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Mike Nelson, Mayor
Susan Paine, Council President
Adrienne Fraley-Monillas, Councilmember
Kristiana Johnson, Councilmember
Luke Distelhorst, Councilmember
Diane Buckshnis, Councilmember
Vivian Olson, Councilmember
ELECTED OFFICIALS ABSENT
Laura Johnson, Councilmember
1. CALL TO ORDER/FLAG SALUTE
STAFF PRESENT
Patrick Doherty, Econ. Dev & Comm. Serv. Dir
Tom Brubaker, City Attorney
Scott Passey, City Clerk
Dave Rohde, GIS Analyst
The Edmonds City Council virtual online meeting was called to order at 7:01 p.m. by Mayor Nelson. The
meeting was opened with the flag salute.
2. LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
Councilmember Distelhorst read the City Council Land Acknowledgement Statement: "We acknowledge
the original inhabitants of this place, the Sdohobsh (Snohomish) people and their successors the Tulalip
Tribes, who since time immemorial have hunted, fished, gathered, and taken care of these lands. We respect
their sovereignty, their right to self-determination, and we honor their sacred spiritual connection with the
land and water."
3. ROLL CALL
City Clerk Scott Passey called the roll. All elected officials were present, with the exception
of Councilmember L. Johnson, participating remotely.
Council President Paine advised Councilmember L. Johnson was celebrating her 25t1i wedding
anniversary and asked to be excused from tonight's meeting.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAINE MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER BUCKSHNIS, TO
EXCUSE COUNCILMEMBER L. JOHNSON. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. PRESENTATIONS
PROCLAMATION ON SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH
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some leeway with regard to what they presented. If the Council was not satisfied with what was
provided, the Council could to look into what leverage they specifically have under contract.
UPON ROLL CALL, AMENDMENT FAILED (1-5) COUNCILMEMBER BUCKSHNIS VOTING
YES; AND COUNCILMEMBERS K. JOHNSON, DISTELHORST, FRALEY-MONILLAS, AND
OLSON AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAINE VOTING NO.
COUNCILMEMBER OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER FRALEY-
MONILLAS, TO ADD AGENDA ITEM 8.3 TO DISCUSS GIVING THE PLANNING BOARD
ADDITIONAL DIRECTION REGARDING THE TASKING THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE
FROM COUNCIL ABOUT MULTIFAMILY DESIGN STANDARDS WITH THE INTENTION OF
ADDING GREEN SPACE TO THEIR TASK.
Councilmember Olson commented the Council discussed this at a previous meeting but did not give formal
direction to the Planning Board. Therefore a discussion and ultimately a vote is needed to direct the Planning
Board regarding how they should proceed. She anticipated the discussion and vote would not take very
long.
AMENDMENT CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Mayor Nelson invited participants and described the procedures for audience comments. In
accordance with RCW 42.17A.555, public comments shall not include statements which promote or
oppose candidates for public office or ballot measures, except in the course of a public hearing
specifically scheduled for such purposes.
Linda Ferkingstad, Edmonds, said in the second largest timber export state of Washington,
Edmonds City Council has illegally possessed private property owners' trees, forcing them to purchase
them again from the City before being allowed to use their property for what it is zoned for, building
single family homes on single family zoned property. She has begged at nearly every meeting for the
City Council to rescind the illegal ordinance that authorizes the City to steal their property rights, forces
them to buy the trees back to use their property for what it is zoned for. This Council is breaking the laws
of the constitution to accomplish their own agenda. In February 2017, her 81-year old parents, her
husband and she purchased a challenging, sloped 1.2 acre property with trees and views of Puget
Sound and the mountains. Before purchasing, her husband asked Edmonds Planning Department if the
property could be divided into four lots to build their homes and was told it was no problem. After the
purchase, the Planning Department told them it would be difficult to subdivide because it was in a
critical area. After working with surveyors, engineers, lawyers and architects for two years, they could
divide the property into three lots once the small corner containing the critical area was given to a
neighbor.
Ms. Ferkingstad continued, with construction demands slowing engineering, COVID and
complications with her mother's multiple myeloma, the engineers were to submit their application in Q
November 2020 but found a moratorium had been placed on subdivision applications. It was placed to
halt subdivisions so the City could draft a tree ordinance making it impossible for them to build without
repurchasing their trees from the City before they and their roots can be removed and the homes built, a
$250,000 unconstitutional governmental taking. Since then they have paid architects, engineers, and
arborists to re -inventory each tree and reposition the three homes that they have not yet been allowed
to build. The new 50% retention to escape the takings of their trees means their views are gone and large
trees will be 10 feet from their homes. Eighty percent of the property will have to remain as open space
instead of the 30% required for Edmonds properties or 5% in commercial developments. If they go below
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said he had received responses from Cascadia Art Museum and Arts Start; he offered to provide it now or
send it to Councilmembers. Councilmember Olson suggested he email it to
Councilmembers. Councilmember Olson preferred to have this as an Unfinished Business item instead
of on the Consent Agenda so Councilmembers would have an opportunity to amend a grant request
without removing the item from Consent.
Councilmember Buckshnis agreed with Council President Paine about getting funds out the door quickly.
She suggested the Council analyze all the categories next year, commenting it was obvious this was
an underfunded category. She agreed with Mr. Doherty that the use of some of the fund requested by Art
Starts were construction related. She referred to Mr. Doherty's indication that a request of $18,000
was more appropriate, explaining she calculated $30,000. Mr. Doherty explained their request includes 5
areas, the first is $20,000 related to finishing construction and the second is $12,000 for tools related to
the workplace, finishings and furnishings for the building. If those 2 were view as less comporting with
the guidelines and the $32,000 was deleted, it left $18,000 of their $50,000 request. The remaining items
are for educational enhancement, administration expenses and community outreach. Councilmember
Buckshnis concurred with Mr. Doherty regarding Arts Start.
Councilmember Fraley-Monillas agreed with Councilmember Buckshnis and Council President
Paine about getting the funds out the door now, and taking whatever is left over and looking at places
like the Food Bank and others that did not apply. Most of the organizations are in the arts which is
what brings people and tax dollars to Edmonds. She felt it would be a gigantic mistake to micromanaging
by reducing requests by $1,000. She would agree with having it on the agenda under Unfinished Business
if she could be assured it would be moved forward at that meeting and not put on a future Consent
Agenda. She concluded many of these organizations seriously need the money.
Councilmember Olson agreed with getting the money out quickly, but there said there is still
some information coming in. As it often takes more time to remove something from the Consent
Agenda, she preferred to have it on the agenda under Unfinished Business. She understood the urgency
and will not ask it be placed on a future Consent Agenda.
It was the consensus of Council to schedule this as Unfinished Business on the September 21 st agenda.
Mr. Doherty will send Council the additional information he received.
3. DISCUSS GIVING PLANNING BOARD ADDITIONAL DIRECTION REGARDING
TASKING ALREADY HAVE FROM CITY COUNCIL ABOUT MULTIFAMILY DESIGN
STANDARDS WITH THE INTENTION OF ADDING GREEN SPACE TO THEIR TASK
Councilmember Olson said she wanted to ask the Planning Board to include consideration of green space
along with the multifamily design standards that the Council has already tasked them with as one of the
Housing Commission recommendations. It came up during the conversation regarding Unit Lot Subdivision
and a lot of Councilmembers were interested in exploring whether more green space could be required in
multifamily complexes in the future.
Council President Paine said she had an opportunity to talk with Acting Development Services Director
Chave earlier today but he was not available at tonight's meeting. The intent would be to have both the
Planning Board and the Architectural Design Board (ADB) consider green space requirements; there are
already landscape requirements for multifamily design. She summarized the majority of Council was
interested in having the Planning Board and ADB consider this.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAINE MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OLSON, TO
INCLUDE GREEN SPACE IN THE COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PLANNING
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BOARD AND THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD WHEN THIS BODY OF WORK COMES
TO THOSE BOARDS.
Councilmember Distelhorst asked if the intent was to have both the Planning Board and ADB study the
inclusion of green space. He pointed out green space drives up construction costs and drives down the
number of units, things the City needs to be sensitive to when considering this as increased regulations that
prevent construction of housing only further exacerbate the problem. He was in favor of studying it but not
mandating a requirement before the boards had an opportunity to consider what would and would not work.
Councilmember Olson anticipated that was what their discussions and ultimate recommendations would be
based on, a balancing act between the environment and housing costs.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9. COUNCIL COMMENTS
Council President Paine reminded there is an opening for a Council student representative and
she encouraged students to apply. She expressed a huge thank you to City staff across the board. COVID
has been a burden for all and she recognized during tonight's discussion about suicide prevention for
youth and people of all ages that people are affected in different ways. She thanked staff for keeping the
work coming through whether in office, at home or outside. She recognized Park and Public Works staffs
do not have the option to work from home or in a protected environment. This is a long haul and she
appreciated them all. She was reminded by a staff member that the 1918 pandemic lasted three years.
Perhaps not the best news, but this is a squirrelly virus that keeps changing. She recognized that patience
is a strength and she wanted staff to hang in there and continue doing the best they can.
Councilmember Buckshnis commented suicide is real and it impacts a lot of people. She encouraged
anyone who felt depressed to seek help, talk to a friend, etc. Depression is a chemical imbalance and if a
person reaches a certain point, they can snap.
Councilmember Olson commented tonight had been a productive meeting. She encouraged the public to
volunteer for the last marsh restoration work party of the year on September 1 I' from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m.;
it is dirty, hard work and waders are encouraged. She advised town halls will be announced soon to
gather citizen input on the budget and spending priorities so the Council and the Administration is aware
of the priorities before the 2022 budget is finalized. She encouraged residents to attend the town hall that
is most convenient for them.
Councilmember K. Johnson observed Council committee meetings will be held next week and
respectfully requested that the municipal court reorganization be remanded back to the Public Safety,
Planning and Parks Committee for continued discussion as requested in July.
Councilmember Distelhorst echoed Council President Paine's comments about City staff. Ensuring
City staff are safe and healthy and not sick and quarantining ensures they are available to deliver
essential services to residents. If staff are not well, residents will not be well because they will not receive
the services they need. Tomorrow is the first day of school for the Edmonds School District. As a parent
with a child in the Edmonds School District who lost 18 months of school, he was very excited to have
kids back in school and his child was looking forward to being back in school, but it is a matter of public
health and safety and ensuring areas of potential spread are reduced. He was thankful to educators,
administration, coaches, and support staff for working to keep themselves and children healthy and safe
and learning in the best possible environment. He wished everyone a good year moving forward.
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Councilmember Distelhorst referred to today's message from the Health District, Snohomish County
is now at the highest rate of infection in the entire pandemic. He appreciated public comment about
adults being able to make choices for themselves, but many people in the community are not making
good choices for themselves and are still unvaccinated. People need to get vaccinated, wear masks and
reduce their risk factors as much as possible to ensure schools, businesses and essential functions can
continue to operate. He hoped people would make smart and responsible decisions that will start
driving the rate down. He thanked Mayor Nelson and Councilmembers for supporting suicide
prevention efforts as it impacts residents of all ages in the community.
To Carolyn Strom and Susan Hughes, Councilmember Fraley-Monillas said she was not drunk two week.
ago. She mistakenly grabbed a glass of wine from dinner and drank some of it. Unfortunately she seems
to think she is irreplaceable on the Council. She rarely takes vacations or goes any place. For example,
she had lung cancer in her first year on the Council and had most of her right lung removed followed by
five months of chemotherapy during which she missed three meetings. She would have
chemotherapy on Wednesdays so it did not interfere with Council meetings. She acknowledged she
probably should not have done that and probably should have taken time off. A lot of people respond to
illness in different ways; she was in extreme pain as she was ten years ago when she had lung cancer, but
she chose to serve the citizens of Edmonds. She suggested anyone who wanted to criticize her and her
illnesses to call her, she was more than happy to explain. Not much keeps her down when it comes to
serving on the Council, anything from cancer to a face infection that infected her sinus and her eye. The
hate speech from Ms. Hughes and Ms. Strom was inappropriate and not relevant to her and her service to
the City.
110. MAYOR'S COMMENTS
Mayor Nelson relayed he would have liked to have keep City buildings open to the public, however, case.
counts continue to climb, 464/100,000, which is the highest yet. Due to people's personal choices, 95%
of ICU beds are full with COVID patients and only 56% of Snohomish County residents are fully
vaccinated which is not enough to defeat a pandemic. Over 200,000 in Snohomish County are eligible but
choose for whatever reason not to get vaccinated. Because hospitals are filling up, emergency help,
surgery and beds are not available because of COVID patients, the majority of whom are unvaccinated.
To keep everyone as safe as possible, steps such as closing City Hall to the public are necessary. When
numbers decline and people are healthier, safer and more are vaccinated, he will happily reverse all the
closures. He does not like Zoom any more than anyone else and is anxious to get back in person.
The virus keeps mutating because it continues to find unvaccinated hosts. As soon as everyone is
vaccinated, there will be no more mutations and no more virus. He urged everyone to please get
vaccinated so we can go back to our regular, normal lives. There are 125,000 people in Snohomish
County, children under age 12, who are not eligible to be vaccinated but have the potential to be exposed
to COVID. He urged anyone who was eligible to get vaccinated.
11. ADJOURN
With no further business, the Council meeting was adjourned at 9:51 p.m.
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Existing Comprehensive Plan Goals
Housing Goal J - Recognize that in addition to traditional height and bulk standards, design is an important
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Policy J.1- Provide design guidelines that encourage flexibility in housing types while ensuring
compatibility with the surrounding neighborhood.
City Council Direction
Consensus for multifamily design updates. Felt it was long overdue. Many discussed character and compatibility.
See ADB Attachment A for more on the conversation from Council.
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Visit the Edmonds Code Update webpage for more information or to sign up for notifications.
Multifamily Design Standard (Update) specific page coming soon!
www.edmondswa.gov/codeupdates
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