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Edmonds City Council Approved Minutes
April 21, 2022
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EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING - VIRTUAL/ONLINE
APPROVED MINUTES
April 21, 2022
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Mike Nelson, Mayor
Vivian Olson, Council President
Kristiana Johnson, Councilmember
Will Chen, Councilmember
Neil Tibbott, Councilmember
Diane Buckshnis, Councilmember
Susan Paine, Councilmember
ELECTED OFFICIALS ABSENT
Laura Johnson, Councilmember
STAFF PRESENT
Susan McLaughlin, Dev. Serv. Director
Kernen Lien, Interim Planning Manager
Mike Clugston, Senior Planner
Jeff Taraday, City Attorney
Scott Passey, City Clerk
1. CALL TO ORDER/FLAG SALUTE
The Edmonds City Council virtual online meeting was called to order at 5:15 p.m. by Mayor Nelson. The
meeting was opened with the flag salute.
2. LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
Councilmember Paine read the City Council Land Acknowledgement Statement: “We acknowledge the
original inhabitants of this place, the Sdohobsh (Snohomish) people and their successors the Tulalip Tribes,
who since time immemorial have hunted, fished, gathered, and taken care of these lands. We respect their
sovereignty, their right to self-determination, and we honor their sacred spiritual connection with the land
and water.”
3. ROLL CALL
City Clerk Scott Passey called the roll. All elected officials were present participating remotely, with the
exception of Councilmember L. Johnson.
4. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CHEN, TO
APPROVE THE AGENDA IN CONTENT AND ORDER. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5. AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Mayor Nelson described the procedures for virtual audience comments.
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Lynda Fireman, Edmonds, referred to the email she sent to council that asked they use their minds eye to
visualize not only what each development will look like as part of a whole in the landscape, but also how
it will impact the neighborhood, not just at the front and side but the back of the building as well. Earlier
today as she was driving down Main Street, the spectacular view always takes her breath away. The current
businesses on either side at 600, 605 and 611 Main do not interfere with the ambiance, allow enjoyment of
the wonderful view and don’t distract from it which is why residents live here and tourist come to experience
it. She suggested imagining how it would look with the proposed apartments dwarfing the heritage cottage
at 601 Main and obliterating the 1895 cottage at 605 Main, two of the last vestiges of Edmonds’ heritage
and a blight on the landscape forever, particularly if the same was built at 600 Main. The square block
between 6th and 7th and Main & Bell is already very high density. Residents pay a premium to live there
and spend their money in Edmonds. Some, definitely not all developers, are only in it to maximize their
profits and their money goes into the bank; they don’t care about the impact on the residents or on the City.
Ms. Fireman applauded the council for their wish to add addendums to expand the limits of the designated
street front map because businesses are needed, to extend the moratorium for two months for further study,
and to eliminate roof top decks, add a provision to follow the slope of the lot against the alley and lot line
to help reduce the scale of the building and alleviate the pervasiveness of the 40-foot tall straight flat wall
against the alley lot line and allow the adjacent residents to reclaim a little of the lost visual of their
surroundings and the light that will be taken away. She urged the council not to allow roof top decks,
commenting the development was already oversized and residents want to avoid being kept awake at night.
In addition, there is a wind tunnel that comes up the alley and she could envision things flying off the deck.
She would like to see the development reduced in height and scale to fit in with the historic downtown and
to somehow save the 1895 cottage; it has been a viable business for years and possibly can be moved. She
asked the council to give consideration to those who live in the area and are impacted by the development
as well as those who will be affected by other imminent development in BD2 spot zones. She recognized
there was a lot of divisiveness around these issues, but hoped the council could come together to resolve
them.
Finis Tupper, Edmonds, commented this has been quite a charade. He recognized councilmembers had a
lot of work to do and had to review a lot of materials in the agenda packet. He wondered if any
councilmembers looked at Ordinance 3955 regarding BD1 ground floor street front and compared it to the
code. He questioned why the code was not updated when Ordinance 3955 was passed. He questioned who
was in charge at the City, who was checking this stuff, whether it was the attorney, the council president,
the city clerk or the mayor. Anyone with a 6th grade education looking at the building standards for the BD1
zone knows it is business and mixed use commercial. Nowhere has Kernen Lien shown the council where
City staff was told that outside the designated street front there could be an entirely multifamily project.
The dimensional requirements in the zoning code clearly state 45 feet in the designated street front is
required to be commercial. The exception in 7 under BD1 ground floor street front does not apply to these
buildings. There could be doctors or dentists in that 45 feet but there can’t be in the BD1 or the designated
street front. Every house in Edmonds has a designated street front. He questioned whether it was defined
in the code and said the lie is related to ceiling height and allowed uses in those zones. What the council is
trying to do is absolutely illegal and is appealable to the Growth Management Hearings Board.
Michelle Dotsch, Edmonds, said the foundation to tonight’s discussion hinges on whether to keep a small
portion of the required development in the BD2 downtown mixed commercial zone as commercial. It needs
to be accurately stated that multifamily is an allowed use in this zone, even encouraged as mixed use in the
comprehensive plan along with a minimum square footage on the ground floor for businesses and jobs that
support and compliment the BD1 commercial only zone. The 2020 validation study of the buildable lands
study comparing development predictions with actual development, shows Edmonds exceeded the total
predicted housing units by 74%. It also shows the average buildable density in Edmond exceeded predicted
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targets by 64%. That is only through 2019, there is time to get this right. She asked how do the community
wanted the future vision of Edmonds to play out, whether it was a greater emphasis on Edmonds just
expanding housing only which the study clearly shows exceeded county targets, losing small businesses
and commercial balance along with local job opportunity growth to coordinate with housing expansion.
This will only push residents to travel farther for goods and services including driving further to their jobs
because local business options have been removed for even more housing only buildings. A 15-minute City
discussion was presented by the development services director as a possible goal for Edmonds, but if the
vital supporting role that BD2 service businesses provide to the town is removed, it will become a 45-90
minute town in the end.
Dr. Dotsch continued, support service businesses are vital to a thriving community and are excluded from
the BD1 ground floor designated street front zone. Chapter 16.43 which defines all the BD zones contains
a footnote that states services, by appointment uses not providing open door retail, dining, entertainment
functions as a primary component of the business, are not allowed within BD1 ground floor street front first
45 feet. Open door businesses, e.g. real estate offices, banks with tellers and no drive throughs, nail and
hair salons are allowed. Now the council is prioritizing eliminating the BD2 language that allows for these
other uses, these smaller service business to thrive and compliment the mix of jobs and uses in the entire
downtown district. Less options for small, appointment-only business will force residents to travel further
for these vital services and the staff and clients they bring that frequent the retail shops, restaurants, banks
in the core daily. This BD2 use zoning designed on the shoulders of the small downtown district should be
preserved for its core economic health, livability and job creation. She requested the council require that
businesses and jobs remain in this small BD2 zone. There is already more multifamily square footage
allowed in this zone than business, once it is 100% gone, there is no room in the small downtown core to
bring it back. She requested the council renew the moratorium and design standards for six months to get
this right as there is no rush.
6. COUNCIL BUSINESS
1. EXTENSION OF MORATORIUM ON CERTAIN BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS
IN THE BD2 ZONE
City Attorney Jeff Taraday explained two days ago the council adopted an ordinance to extend the
moratorium through May 19th. However, because that ordinance passed on a 4-3 vote, it will not take effect
until sometime next week. The moratorium ends today, so theoretically starting tomorrow building permit
applications could be submitted that would vest to the existing design standards, zoning, etc. To the extend
the council wants to prevent that from happening, the council has an opportunity at this meeting to adopt
the ordinance in the packet that would, with at least five votes, take immediate effect and would also extend
the moratorium until June 2nd. That date was chosen after consulting with the development services director
to determine the amount of time that likely would be needed for the designated street front issue to be
returned to the council for further consideration.
Mr. Taraday continued, the idea is the council could extend the moratorium tonight through June 2nd and
then take up the designated street front issue on May 17th and perhaps the following meeting, and still have
time to adopt an ordinance before the moratorium expires on June 2nd. Of course, as long as the moratorium
is within the six month authority, the council has some discretion to extend it further, but staff does not
believe that it will take longer than June 2nd to complete work on the designated street front. If it appears
on May 17th that more time is necessary, the council could extend the moratorium again, but his
understanding after consulting with the development services director is that it should come to council on
May 17th.
Mr. Taraday identified minor amendments that he suggested be made to the packet version. He referenced
the draft extension moratorium ordinance on page 4, pointing out the title references both Ordinance 4253
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and 4254 (Ordinance 4254 was adopted on Tuesday). As Section 1 does not reference Ordinance 4254, he
suggested a minor edit to Section 1 that would read, “…extended by Ordinances 4253 and 4254 …” The
second edit would add a whereas clause before the last whereas clause that reads, “Whereas Ordinance
4254 extended the moratorium through May 19th, 2022 but did not pass with sufficient margin to take
immediate effect; and. He apologized for the edits, but said with the moratorium expiring, they are
necessary.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER BUCKSHNIS,
TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF EDMONDS, WASHINGTON, EXTENDING
THE MORATORIUM ON THE ACCEPTANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS FOR
BD2 ZONED LOTS THAT DO NOT FRONT ON A DESIGNATED STREET FRONT AS IMPOSED
BY ORDINANCE 4247 AND EXTENDED BY ORDINANCES 4253 AND 4254.
Council President Olson said she was excited for the opportunity to pass this ordinance with a super
majority and have it take effective immediately so there will be better design standards in place.
COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON, TO
AMEND THE ORDINANCE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE ATTORNEY, ADDING ORDINANCE
4254 IN SECTION 1 AND THE ADDITIONAL WHEREAS CLAUSE.
Councilmember Buckshnis asked Mr. Taraday to send councilmembers the language he read for the
additional whereas. Mr. Taraday shared his screen so councilmembers were able to read it and repeated the
amendments, revise Section 1 to read, “…extended by Ordinances 4253 and 4254 …” and add a whereas
clause before the last whereas clause that reads, “Whereas Ordinance 4254 extended the moratorium
through May 19th, 2022 but did not pass with sufficient margin to take immediate effect; and.
UPON ROLL CALL, MOTION CARRIED (6-0), COUNCILMEMBER K. JOHNSON, CHEN,
TIBBOTT, BUCKSHNIS, AND PAINE AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON VOTING YES.
Councilmember Buckshnis said she has either an amendment or a clarification. She referred to the 15th
whereas clause (WHEREAS, the history suggests that what was seen in 2011 as the logical limits of the
downtown commercial core may no longer fit the circumstances of 2022 due to the fact that certain blocks
are showing vibrant commercial activity right up to the edges of the designed street front map; and) and
questioned why 2011 was used when the original Ordinance 3628 regarding BD zones was adopted in 2007.
Mr. Taraday said it was most recently amended in 2011. Interim Planning Manager Kernen Lien said 2011
is the ordinance that adopted the current extent of the designated street front. Councilmember Buckshnis
relayed her understanding it was updating Ordinance 3628. Mr. Lien agreed.
Councilmember Buckshnis said in reading this, it is kind of judgmental and she preferred using logical
limits, fit the circumstances, etc. She questioned if that whereas clause was even needed. Mr. Taraday
pointed out a typo in that whereas clause; it should be “designated,” instead of “designed.” In his opinion
the whereas clause is helpful because it explains why the extension of the moratorium to June 2nd is
necessary; it is necessary because the council wants to reevaluate the designated street front map. That is
essentially the primary reason for the proposed extension. He felt it was a helpful whereas clause, but
recognized the council was free to amend.
Councilmember Buckshnis said now that Mr. Taraday had explained it, she was fine with it. She suggested
a whereas clause saying the definition of the BD2 is mixed residential. She has yet to see where council has
deliberated on the two options which were given to the council at the time of the BD4 zones and wanted to
have language that states, “Whereas BD2 always been recognized by council as mixed residential.” Mr.
Taraday answered the whereas clauses explain in essence the reasons for what the council is doing today,
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but do not prevent the council from taking action in future. He realized that some people may still disagree
with the analysis provided regarding the BD zone. That whereas clause does not prevent the council from
stating in the future that there is not going to be residential only structures anywhere in the BD2 zone. There
are several ways to accomplish that such as drastically increasing the designated street front map, a map
amendment, text amendment, etc. That whereas clause does not prevent the council in the future from doing
what the council wants to do with residential structures.
Councilmember Buckshnis said it was Ordinance 3918 that describes the subdistricts and BD2 is downtown
mixed commercial. She would like to have a whereas in Ordinance in 3918 stating the BD2 zone is defined
as downtown mixed commercial.
COUNCILMEMBER BUCKSHNIS/COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, TO ADD A
WHEREAS CLAUSE THAT ORDINANCE 3918 DEFINES BD2 AS DOWNTOWN MIXED
COMMERCIAL.
Councilmember Buckshnis commented some councilmembers lived through this; she recalled former
Councilmember Petso saying land use is permanent, you better be very careful with what you do. She has
read a lot of materials, she appreciated the work done by staff and Mr. Taraday, but in her opinion Ordinance
3918 was left out of the agenda memo and she felt it was a very important ordinance. The new moratorium
addresses street fronts and defines building types. Ordinance 3918 defines BD2 as downtown mixed
commercial. She had not seen any materials related to transition zones, etc. This further acknowledges that
there are a number of important ordinance related to the BD topic.
Councilmember Paine said the whereas that refers to 2011 is the reason for extending the moratorium from
May 19th to June 2nd. She did not believe this new whereas clause adds additional clarity or a compelling
story which is the reason for having clear whereas clauses.
Council President Olson said the comment by Councilmember Paine was a fair point. She was the one that
noticed Ordinance 4254 was not referenced in the whereas clause and even though it didn’t change
anything, it did document the history and she felt the same about adding language regarding Ordinance
3918. It does not have an impact because the council can choose what they think is appropriate for the BD2
zone, but it documents the history and therefor it adds value.
Councilmember Chen valued the history and the additional understanding via adding Ordinance 3918 to
the proposed ordinance.
Mr. Taraday commented it is true that Ordinance 3918 was one of the ordinance that amended the BD
zoning code, but the language about downtown mixed commercial has been in code since 2008; it was not
amended by Ordinance 3918. It was not staff’s goal in drafting the memo regarding the history to identify
every ordinance that has amended any aspect of the BD zone. Staff’s focus was on the ordinances they felt
had some relevance to the designated street front and the BD2 uses which is why Ordinance 3918 is not
referenced. He did not think there was any harm in referencing it, but it does not add much to explain why
the council was doing this. Ordinance 3918 was primary about building height and things like that, not
about uses or the designated street front. The red lines in the ordinance show where it was amended.
Councilmember Buckshnis read from Ordinance 3918, Whereas the following work sessions with the
members of the ADB and Planning Board took place July 9, 2013, February 13 and February 27, 2013. She
recalled it very clearly and she was sure Councilmember K. Johnson did as well and likely Councilmember
Tibbott. It defines the subdistricts, whereas the memo goes into the reasoning behind the street fronts; in
her opinion reference to Ordinance 3918 added a valuable piece of history. Ordinance 3918 was a pivotal
year when the council was looking at the BD zones; some may not feel it adds value but she thought it did.
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UPON ROLL CALL, AMENDMENT CARRIED (5-1), COUNCILMEMBER K. JOHNSON, CHEN,
TIBBOTT, AND BUCKSHNIS, AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON VOTING YES;
COUNCILMEMBER PAINE VOTING NO.
MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. INTERIM DESIGN STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY-ONLY BUILDINGS IN THE BD2
ZONE
Senior Planner Mike Clugston offered to review the language in the packet.
Councilmember K. Johnson said the first step is to un-table this item so the council can discuss it.
COUNCILMEMBER K. JOHNSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON
TO UN-TABLE THIS DISCUSSION ITEM FOR INTERIM DESIGN STANDARDS FOR
MULTIFAMILY ONLY BUILDING IN THE BD2 ZONE.
City Attorney Jeff Taraday said he included a recommendation in the agenda that the council not un-table
the motion as it will be a much easier process to move the ordinance in packet. Otherwise a number of
amendments would need to be made to the ordinance that the council tabled. If the council prefers to start
where they left off on Tuesday, that is certain the council’s prerogative.
Councilmember K. Johnson asked for further clarification, advising she did not see the recommendation to
not un-table the item and she did not understand how the council could discuss it without un-tabling it. Mr.
Taraday relayed the recommendation to move the ordinance in the packet. Tuesday’s motion was to move
the ordinance in that packet. They are not the same ordinances and the council’s deliberation would be
much more straightforward if the council began by moving the ordinance in the packet.
COUNCILMEMBER K. JOHNSON WITHDREW THE MOTION WITH THE AGREEMENT OF
THE SECOND.
Councilmember Buckshnis relayed her understanding that by not removing the item from the table, it would
be tabled indefinitely. Mr. Taraday agreed, explaining there is no obligation to ever remove something from
the table. His intent was to provide the most streamlined process; the ordinance in tonight’s packet will be
the best starting point for council’s deliberation and starting anywhere else will make deliberations more
complex. He recommended leaving Tuesday’s ordinance on the table and starting deliberations with the
ordinance in tonight’s packet.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT, AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF EDMONDS, WASHINGTON, ESTABLISHING INTERIM
DESIGN STANDARDS FOR STAND-ALONE MULTIPLE DWELLING BUILDINGS IN THE BD2
ZONE, SETTING SIX MONTHS AS THE EFFECTIVE PERIOD OF THE INTERIM STANDARDS,
AND LIFTING THE MORATORIUM THAT WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGH ORDINANCE 4247
AND EXTENDED THROUGH ORDINANCE 4253.
Councilmember Tibbott said staff did a good job of capturing the essence of Tuesday’s conversation and
he agreed with the language used to describe the design standards. He will support ordinance.
Councilmember Paine said she will support this ordinance and hoped it would be sufficient for as long as
it was needed. She hoped the feasibility study regarding the needs of either commercial businesses or
residential in this part of town would be completed prior to the moratorium’s expiration on June 2nd. She
will support the interim ordinance, expressing her preference to have moratorium lifted well before June
2nd.
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Councilmember Chen asked for clarification on design standard D, some roof modulation is required with
preference for step-down that follows the slope when slope exists. He asked if that affected the building
height. Mr. Clugston answered this was offered as an amendment on Tuesday. It does not affect the
maximum height in the zone which is still 30 feet for the BD2 zone, but requires some roof modulation and
step-down is one of the option.
Councilmember Chen asked if the roof modulation referred to the same building or separate buildings. Mr.
Clugston answered it would refer to two separate buildings, As the slope steps down, there would be roof
modulation between the buildings and the intent is that each building would have some roof modulation.
That could be achieved via a step-down or other ways. Councilmember Chen summarized the intent is for
the view from the higher building to not be blocked by the building lower on the slope. Mr. Clugston said
he did not know if that was the intent of adding this standard. If there is a slope, the buildings would step
down the slope and there would be opportunity to modulate the roof. Councilmember Chen expressed
support for the ordinance.
Councilmember Buckshnis asked if Exhibit A, Chapter 22.43.080, was adopted as part of this ordinance.
Mr. Taraday answered yes.
COUNCILMEMBER BUCKSHNIS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT,
ADD TO THE END OF SECTION A, INTENT, “AND COMPLY TO HUMAN SCALE BY
VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL MODULATION.”
Councilmember Buckshnis said a builder with over 20 years’ experience indicated using “compatible within
the downtown area” could result in a big block building and suggested adding human scale. The intent of
the amendment is to take vertical and horizontal issues into account. She recall Councilmember Tibbott
asking about that relative to the post office building.
Councilmember Paine asked if an addition to the intent helped describe what was required or was that
accomplished via the specifics regarding materials, private amenity space, street site amenities, roof
modulation, landscaping, etc. Human scale is subjective depending on context. Adding human scale is a
broader discussion that should be reviewed by the planning board and ADB to ensure they are comfortable
with adopting that because they would need to review against it. Development Services Director Susan
McLaughlin answered this section will be a subsection of the broader design standards. The intent and
purpose of those design standards already articulate human scale, keeping with the historic nature of
downtown, repeating historic patterns, vertical and horizontal modulation, etc. so it would be redundant.
Having an intention statement identifies the outcome once all the design standards are rolled up.
COUNCILMEMBER BUCKSHNIS WITHDREW THE AMENDMENT MOTION WITH THE
AGREEMENT OF THE SECOND.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER BUCKSHNIS,
TO AMEND SO THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE READS, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
EDMONDS, WASHINGTON, ESTABLISHING INTERIM DESIGN STANDARDS FOR STAND-
ALONE MULTIPLE DWELLING BUILDINGS IN THE BD2 ZONE, SETTING SIX MONTHS AS
THE EFFECTIVE PERIOD OF THE INTERIM STANDARDS. , AND LIFTING THE
MORATORIUM THAT WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGH ORDINANCE 4247 AND EXTENDED
THROUGH ORDINANCE 4253. AMENDMENT CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILMEMBER BUCKSHNIS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER K. JOHNSON,
TO AMEND ITEM 2 RELATED TO BALCONIES, TO ADD AT THE END OF THE FIRST
SENTENCE, “DECKS ENCROACHING INTO SETBACKS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THE
SECOND FLOOR ONLY.”
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Councilmember Buckshnis commented it is important to understand that decks encroach on the vibrancy
of the City because it is part of the common space. Therefore, she wanted to ensure that decks that encroach
into the setback were limited to the second floor and up.
Councilmember Paine assumed all decks would on the second or third floor and she did not understand
what this amendment would change. Most likely decks would encroach, but not beyond 5 feet.
Councilmember Buckshnis provided an example, pointing out on the post office building part of it is
commercial and she considered the patios to be decks. Mr. Clugston explained the intent of the standard
was balconies are on the second and third floors of buildings and can project out or be built into the building;
decks and patios are at the ground level which is why two different standard distances were proposed. On
the ground level, they can project into the 15 foot setback by 10 feet and balconies on the second and third
floors can project a maximum of 5 feet.
COUNCILMEMBER BUCKSHNIS WITHDREW THE MOTION WITH THE AGREEMENT OF
THE SECOND
MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. ADJOURN
With no further business, the council meeting was adjourned at 6:11 p.m.