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June 14, 2022
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EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING
APPROVED MINUTES
June 14, 2022
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Vivian Olson, Mayor Pro Tem
Diane Buckshnis, Council President Pro Tem
Kristiana Johnson, Councilmember
Will Chen, Councilmember
Neil Tibbott, Councilmember
Susan Paine, Councilmember
Laura Johnson, Councilmember
ELECTED OFFICIALS ABSENT
Mike Nelson, Mayor
STAFF PRESENT
Susan McLaughlin, Dev. Serv. Director
Mike Clugston, Senior Planner
Jeff Taraday, City Attorney
Scott Passey, City Clerk
1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
The Edmonds City Council meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Council President Pro Tem
Buckshnis in the City Council Conference Room and virtually.
City Clerk Scott Passey called the roll. All elected officials were present with the exception of Mayor
Nelson.
2. COUNCIL BUSINESS
1. PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE CITIZENS’ COMMENTS ON INTERIM DESIGN
STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY-ONLY BUILDINGS IN THE BD2 ZONE
Senior Planner Mike Clugston thanked the council for scheduling a public hearing tonight. The intent is to
have a hearing before the 60 days expires on the interim ordinance for BD2 design standards. The
adopting resolution originally scheduled the hearing on May 19, 2022. That date was missed, but by
statue the City has 60 days from the date of adoption which was April 21, 2022 so this hearing meets that
deadline. The purpose of tonight’s public hearing is to gather public input about the proposed standards.
Following the hearing, council can determine whether to keep the standards and send them to the
planning board and finalize them over the next two months or repeal the standards, knowing some other
work has been done in the BD2 zone recently.
Council President Pro Tem Buckshnis opened the public hearing and described the procedures for in-
person public comments.
Greg Brewer, Edmonds, commended the council for taking steps to protect the BD2 mixed-use
commercial zone. Moving the street frontage line will go a long way toward protecting the small,
vulnerable area. The BD2 zone was never intended to be 100% residential and he urge the council to
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protect all of it including outside the street frontage line. Design standards are a good tool for great
development, the kind of development that blends well with surrounding structures and functions well
within the existing infrastructure. However, the standards brought forward by the planning department are
not clear or comprehensive. Guidelines need to be spelled out so citizens, developers, planner, building
officials and councilmembers are all on the same page. The less subjectivity to the standards the better for
all. Four areas of concern need to be addressed: public amenity spaces, building setback and step-backs,
modulation, and parking. First, public amenity spaces need clarification; stacking balconies over ground
floor public amenity space is like getting credit for the same space twice. Does any part of the amenity
space have a percentage of space clear to the sky? Second, setbacks on the ground floor for 100%
residential are important which is why all other multifamily zones have ample setbacks except for the
mistake project on Edmonds Street & 3rd where there are no setbacks or off-street parking. Buildings
should also step back as they rise from the ground floor; even a few feet makes a huge difference.
Setbacks and step-backs facilitate pedestrian traffic and allow light and air around these large buildings
and both need concrete dimensions associated with them. Third, modulation is key to avoiding a box; any
building that has a square roofline the same width and depth as its base should be banned. For lots
combined on a slope as on Main & 6th, modulation of rooftops would make a more attractive appearance
and allow for more light and air to adjacent buildings. This is crucial for the health and quality of life for
the neighbors.
Kathy Brewer, Edmonds, continued Greg Brewer’s comments. Furthermore, remember 25 + 5. While
the extra 5 feet was granted for modulation and varied roof structure, now there is 30 + 5 for an
architectural feature, equipment or elevator structure. This is being used to enable a third floor with a
sunken ground floor and results in creeping heights. Taller buildings are being built that overshadow
existing buildings, threatening the harmony and small scale of the quaint downtown core. Finally and
most importantly, parking will be problematic. Just as 100% residential should mirror the setback
standards for multifamily, so should the parking standards. She reference the memorandum from Otak
dated May 19, 2022; Mukilteo and Snohomish parking standards require substantially more parking than
Edmonds, yet Edmonds is more densely populated than either of those two cities. Edmonds lacks parking
and needs to upgrade the number of parking spaces per unit. The 9-unit mistake project on Edmonds
Street & 3rd has tenant parking fanned out on adjacent streets. Imagine what the two proposed 24-unit
apartment buildings on Main Street and Dayton Street would do to the already tight parking. There is a
line of vehicles parking well up Main and spilling onto residential side streets daily and into the evening.
Where will all the apartment tenants park? Main and Dayton Streets, downtown’s main thoroughfares,
will be jammed with traffic and parked vehicles.
Ms. Brewer continued, this will compound the problem that Dayton residents already have with traffic
and pedestrian safety. Getting in and out of downtown with all the traffic and drivers trying to find
parking will be a headache and the parking sprawl will be unsightly at the gateway of the historical,
charming downtown and should not be allowed. It is imperative that all proposed projects require
adequate parking from now on. In conclusion, these design standards are not ready to be passed. There
need to be clearly defined public amenity spaces, concrete dimensions for setbacks and step-backs,
modulation requirements and an increased number of parking spaces per unit before proceeding. The
integrity and charm of the downtown should not be sacrificed for the will of a developer and the ease of
the planners. Allowing 100% residential into the tiny BD2 mixed use commercial zone and doing it
without clear and comprehensive design standards is a big mistake. Send the planners back to the drawing
board to address these issues, not rush this through and ensure what is built is good for the downtown,
businesses, citizens and visitors. She referred to an article in My Edmonds News on June 13th, Meet the
New Business, where the owner stated she was thrilled to find a storefront space in downtown Edmonds.
Her new business is located on 3rd Avenue North in the BD2 zone, evidence that people want and need
commercial space in the downtown business district. The BD2 zone needs to be protected and preserved,
the demand will only grow as Edmonds grows.
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Joan Longstaff, Edmonds, said the downtown corridor has been very special to her since opening her
business there in 1980. They worked very hard to have commercial on the first floor and residences
above. Although she wanted residential above commercial, she was opposed to this 24-unit apartment
building with no commercial. She lived in the 4-unit townhouses in that alley for a time; that alley is very
dangerous and that amount of traffic will create a serious situation. She thanked the council for holding
this public hearing and expressed her interest in retaining the charm in downtown Edmonds.
Lynda Fireman, Edmonds, commented this was supposed to be a public meeting in front of the council
and there is not even a sign on the locked door and now citizens find themselves in city hall on Zoom.
She had intended to thank the city council for asking questions to clarify the zoning of the designated
street fronts and design standards and at no time has she seen anything that was unprofessional,
discriminatory, harassing, inappropriate or bullying. It is the council’s job to probe to find answers before
making decisions. It is staff’s job to answer those questions and explain their position and reasoning.
Communication is key in any office, whether public or private. Most importantly, it is the job of the
mayor to be clear what the agenda is because staff follows his lead. This agenda does not seem to be
public or council knowledge. She was angry; whenever this development is brought up, there is only 30
minutes for discussion which she found disrespectful. She questioned whether that represented a public
forum in Edmonds. She thought a public forum would include questions and answers. She questioned
when the public would be given the time they deserved; this is not a project without impacts, it is real life
in Edmonds and there is human cost to what is happening. Some of her neighbors may think this won’t
affect them or they are afraid to speak up; she is not. The general public is only looking at the
inappropriate size and design seen from Main Street and likely don’t know what is happening. These
additional design standards are very small wins when it comes to the big picture. It does not address the
impact of those who live on the square block or the other surrounding 15 parcels waiting to be developed.
Ms. Fireman continued, it is encroaching and invasive and will cause loss of privacy, views, safety,
livability and enjoyment of the neighbors’ homes. Except for these three lots, the zoning is residential,
RM-1.5. These two lots have a 10-foot drop from Main Street to the alley which means there will be a 4-
story flat wall very close to her building. She has asked for pictures like were provided on the front of the
building, but still hasn’t received them. The fear factor is being used to push the development through.
Edmonds is s small town with small town values, not Seattle or Ballard. She recalled comments from
people who spoke about moving to Edmonds to get away from the density. The application said structures
on adjacent parcels do not support intensity of development under the current zoning and comprehensive
plan and are anticipated to eventually be replaced with higher density development. The proposed project
is seen as a guide for future redevelopment allowed and encouraged by comprehensive plan. It also said it
was market value. She questioned what is being done and what happens now. The one page of additional
design standards doesn’t say much and can have different interpretations. If this is passed, will the
developer and other parcels quickly have applications into the planning department before the zoning and
comprehensive plan can be redone? She was very disappointed to say the least in this whole process.
Michelle Dotsch, Edmonds, referred to Chapter 16.43, definitions and requirements of the five distinct
BD zones, and section 16.43.030, site development standards section B.8 states, “Within the BD4 zone,
there are two options for developing the ground floor of a building. One option is to develop the ground
floor with commercial space, meeting the same requirements detailed for the BD2 and BD3 zones in
subsection (B)(7) of this section. As a second option, if more residential space is provided so that the
ground floor does not meet the commercial use requirements described in subsection (B)(7) of this
section, then the building setbacks listed for the RM-1.5 zone shall apply. In the case where RM-1.5
setbacks are required, the required street setback shall be landscaped and no fence or wall in the setback
shall be over four feet in height above sidewalk grade unless it is at least 50 percent open, such as in a
lattice pattern.” She emphasized BD4 has the ground floor exception to be entirely residential, therefore if
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the BD2 zone is being interpreted to have the same two options as BD4, the same language should be
included as a requirement which will allow BD2 to match the definition as a second option for
development of the ground floor as BD4. The Highway 99 subarea plan is fantastic, not mentioned
enough and was a very thought-out and thorough process that took years to finalize. Even that plan has a
very critical concern noted in the design elements, not allowing a flat, unmodulated wall next to single
family or less dense RM-1.5 zone or street.
Dr. Dotsch continued, an alley is considered a street as was learned from the streateries and reimagining
streets conversations. It states, “The current design critical seek to ensure buildings do not display, bank,
unattractive walls to the abutting streets or residential properties, walls or portions of walls abutting
streets or visible from residentially zoned properties and suggests a variety of architectural treatments to
mitigate impact.” It also states, “The comprehensive plan includes recommendations that should be
considered when developing uses adjacent to single family areas where intense development adjoins
residential areas. Site design including buffers and landscaping and building design should be used to
minimize adverse impacts on residentially zoned properties.” The recommendation was to establish step-
back and setback standards for multifamily buildings adjacent to single family zoning including RM-1.5.
She requested those be included in these standards as the Highway 99 subarea plan has great ideas that
could be used in the downtown as well. Alleys are streets so a zero lot line, blank, unmodulated wall, just
as in the Highway 99 subarea plan should also not be allowed in the downtown BD subarea design
standards. There has never been a picture provided of a blank wall on that alley. There is no rush; she
requested the council slow down and include photos of what these new design standards will look like.
She also requested every adjacent property owner within the usual distance of the BD2 subarea be
notified that these setbacks and design standards have been altered and allow them to provide comment in
the future.
Council Pro Tem Buckshnis described the procedures for virtual public comments. There were no virtual
public comments. Council Pro Tem Buckshnis closed the public hearing and remanded the matter to
council.
Councilmember K. Johnson suggested bringing this back for discussion at a future date. There have been
good public comments as well as written comments and the council deserves an opportunity to review
them before taking action. City Attorney Jeff Taraday advised the council is required to adopt findings
based on the hearing at the meeting following the hearing. The adoption of findings will come to council
next week although it could be on the Consent Agenda. As the council’s agendas have been very full
recently, he was unable to say how much time would be devoted to that item.
Mayor Pro Tem Olson asked if staff could provide the information on the item mentioned by Michelle
Dotsch regarding the Highway 99 subarea plan regarding walls facing streets by email in the next couple
days. Mr. Clugston answered yes. He explained what is being considered tonight is just the interim design
standards that the council already adopted. The question is whether to continue those for the next four
months while the planning board and city council take another look at the standards or allow the interim
standards to expire and have no standards while work is done on the design standards. The interim design
standards were developed fairly quickly, but the architectural design board (ADB) and the planning board
liked them and the council adopted them. These standards could be retained for now, knowing the process
will continue at the planning board and council to make some tweaks if necessary in response to issues
that have been raised. The interim standards are valid for six months from adoption so consideration by
the planning board and council needs to be completed in the next four months.
Mayor Pro Tem Olson commented if council was interested in including the language from the Highway
99 subarea plan, it could not be included as part of the interim design standards; the choice was to
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continue with the interim standards or abandon them completely and not have any design standards for
multifamily in the BD2 zone. Mr. Clugston answered yes.
Councilmember Paine asked if the interim design standards included the analysis done by Kernen Lien
regarding the street frontage for the BD2 zone. She observed staff was nodding. She asked the status of
multifamily design standards, relaying her understanding they had been reviewed by the ADB and should
be at the planning board soon. She anticipated the multifamily design standards could help inform this
discussion. Development Services Director Susan McLaughlin answered this has been a complex
conversation so it is natural there are both active development projects that people are opposed to in
addition to the designated street front conversation which was more of a land use conversation regarding
permitted uses within the BD2 zone as well as the interim design standards. She acknowledged it was
confusing, but there are three separate things. The interim design standards are intrinsically linked with
the multifamily design standards, however, the multifamily design standards will not get into land
uses/permitted uses. Since there is so much interest in this from council, staff has considered whether it is
more of a comprehensive plan issue related to the length of the designated street front throughout the
downtown and taking a more comprehensive view of the BD zoned properties in conjunction with the
vision of the comprehensive plan. The 2022 multifamily design standards are moving forward.
Mr. Clugston explained the focus now is on these interim standards. The City has until October to finalize
them; it will take time to go through the planning board and council process. Once that is completed, the
multifamily design standards will go through the planning board, ADB and council. The interim design
standards will inform that larger project, but the interim standards need to be completed first.
3. ADJOURN
With no further business, the council meeting was adjourned at 7:31 p.m.