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BLD2022-1394_Site_Plan_10.12.2022_8.45.26_AM_3159610(2)(1)Hello! We are proposing to swap out an existing heat pump at the site address 8208 182"d PI Sw. This current unit is within setback requirements. The unit is on a built up concrete pad that was poured with the driveway. I worked with Denise Nelson and Michele Szafran on the current location on the unit. I have Included my email correspondence on the location in the pages below. Michele stated the Grade of the property has changed, so the unit needs to be less than 36 inches from the original grade to be allowed in this location. The customer has provided pictures of where the original grade versus the current unit. His email response is below in the thread as well. He states the original grade is 55 inches taller than the concrete base of the heat pump. Even with our proposed unit, (4A6H5042H1000A) which is 45 inches tall, would sit below the original grade of the property. Please see attached pictures from the homeowner as well as the attached email thread. APPROVED BY PLANNING UM e- 8208 182nd PI SW, Edmonds, WA 98026 m RE i Hannah Hageage From: Sent: To: Subject: Attachments: Follow Up Flag: Flag Status: Hi Hannah and Sean, Joe Mustach <Joe@tmb-homes.com> on behalf of Joe Mustach Tuesday, October 11, 2022 11:22 AM Sean Mitchell; hhageage@cmheating.com RE: Code Question HP1 Jpg; HP2Jp9 Follow up Flagged After reading what Michele from the City of Edmonds has sent you regarding the heat pump, I can see that there is NOT a problem with the current location. Regarding the current unit, (we probably don't need to address this with the City of Edmonds) I'm surprised that no permit was issued for the original unit at the time of install since it was part of the original construction of the home. The home was constructed and got a final inspection approved but of course I wasn't involved in any of that; the builder did everything. Regarding the unit placement, Michele clearly states that the unit needs to be under 36 inches from original grade. Enclosed are two pictures. Picture HP1 shows the top of the retaining wall (which is original grade) and also a piece of blue tape. The blue tape line on the fence post is at the same height as the top of the retaining wall. This line is 55 inches from the concrete base (which can be seen in picture HP2) so it is not even at original grade level. Michele at the City of Edmonds says that the unit can not extend 36 inches over the top of the blue line/retaining wall/original grade. Michele laid out 3 options below; we comply with option number 1 1. Verify the top elevation of the proposed unit with the original grade elevation, if less than 36" from original grade then unit may be located within the required setbacks We are way under the height limit so we're good to go! Let me know if you need anything else, (Aff Joe Mustach I Managing Broker M U S TA C H 425-954-2829 JoeC@TMB-Homes. com & J A C K S 0 N Real - r - We oppreciote your referrals From: Sean Mitchell <sean@cmheating.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 8:01 AM To: Joe Mustach <Joe@tmb-homes.com> Subject: Fwd: Code Question FYI. Get Outlook for iOS From: Hannah Hageage <hhageage@cmheating.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2022 7:12:17 AM To: Sean Mitchell <sean@cmheating.com> Subject: FW: Code Question Sincerely, >M 1-877-CMHEAT I Hannah Hageage Permit Coordinator CM Heating t. 425-259-0550 © hhageageCoDgmheating.com n. www.cmheating.com 1500 Industry St #200, Everett, WA 98203 From: Szafran, Michele <Michele.Szafran@edmondswa.gov> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 8:06 AM To: Hannah Hageage <hhageage@cmheating.com>; Nelson, Denise <Denise.Nelson@edmondswa.gov> Cc: Brittny Miller <bmiller@cmheating.com> Subject: RE: Code Question Hi Hannah, The height limit of 36" from original grade within a required setback has been in place as long as I have been working with the city, so at least since 2017. Units over 36" in height from original grade to the top of the unit are required to meet setbacks. It appears that based on Denise's response and investigation there may not have been a permit approved for the existing location and thus the unit appears to have been placed without the benefit of a permit. As noted above, the height is measured from original grade to the top of the unit, so if the site has been dug down in the location of the existing unit it's possible that the top elevation of the unit could be under 36" from the original grade and thus could be placed within the required setbacks. The attached site plans from the 2006 building permit for the home show the original grade contours, so for example, if the original grade at the location of the unit is 102 feet in the location of the outdoor unit and the top elevation point for the unit is at or below 105 feet then the unit could be considered to comply with setbacks from original grade. This applies even if the total dimension of the unit is over 36" because anything below 102 (original grade elevation) would be below grade. For new units there is a couple of options when trying to meet setbacks, either burry the unit down slightly to comply with the height/setback requirements or move into a location that meets the required setbacks. The site plan on page 3 (attached) shows a retaining wall along the eastern property boundary with the top of wall (TOW) elevations, and the TOW elevations appear to be the original grade and thus the wall is a cut wall (base of wall @ 95.5) which is below the original grade. There appears to be a couple of options in this case which are as follows: 1. Verify the top elevation of the proposed unit with the original grade elevation, if less than 36" from original grade then unit may be located within the required setbacks, or 2. If unit is greater than 36" move to a location that meets setbacks, or 3. Lower the unit to no more than 36" from original grade within the required setbacks. Regards, Michele Q. Szafran I Associate Planner City of Edmonds Planning Division 121 5th Ave. N. Edmonds, WA 98020 / Phone: 425-771-0220, ext. 1778 The Development Services Permit Center is open M-F 8:00am to 4:30pm for Telephone and Digital/Remote access including Zoom meetings. In -Person walk-in service is currently available Wednesdays, 10:00am-2:00pm; appointments are encouraged all other days of the week to assure the appropriate staff member is available. Helpful Info: Web Map: Click Hei / Informational Handouts click Here For general service: Phone: 425.771.0220 / Email: Devserv.admin@edmondswa.gov NOTICE OF DISCLOSURE: According to the Public Records Act Chapter 42.56 RCW, any and all comments and supporting materials received by the City of Edmonds are public records subject to disclosure. Even if the information contains personal information (name, email address and phone number etc.), the City is obligated to disclose public records upon request. In addition, the City of Edmonds will include comments and supporting materials in permit decision records and may post the information onto its website. From: Hannah Hageage <hhageage@cmheating.com> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 11:23 AM To: Nelson, Denise <Denise.Nelson@edmondswa.gov>; Szafran, Michele <Michele.Szafran@edmondswa.gov> Cc: Brittny Miller <bmiller@cmheating.com> Subject: RE: Code Question That is also good information, Denise! Thank you Sincerely, �M-877-CM Hannah Hageage Permit Coordinator CM Heating % 425-259-0550 it hhageage(a�cmheating.com �r www.cmheating.com 1500 Industry St #200, Everett, WA 98203 From: Nelson, Denise <Denise.Nelson@edmondswa.gov> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 11:16 AM To: Hannah Hageage <hhageage@cmheating.com>; Szafran, Michele <Michele.Szafran@edmondswa.gov> Cc: Brittny Miller <bmiller@cmheating.com> Subject: RE: Code Question Hannah - I'm not showing a permit for this older unit, it could have been put in without approval? I'm going to let planning discuss this further with you Q I've included Michele on this email. Michele- Hannah would like to know when the over 36" items are not allowed in setbacks started. Devase NeLsov� CPT I sevLior Pervu.Lt CoorAator (she/her) City of Edmonds 1215th Ave North, 2nd floor Edmonds, WA 98020 (425)771-0220 ext 1336 Denise.Nelson@edmondswa.gov The Development Services Permit Center is open M-F B:OOam to 4:30pm for Telephone and Digital/Remote access. In - Person walk-in service is currently available Mondav- Friday 10:00am to 2:00pm• appointments are encouraaed. To apply for a permit, check status of a permit, or schedule inspections please visit MYBUILDINGPERMIT.COM From: Hannah Hageage <hhageage@cmheating.com> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 11:10 AM To: Nelson, Denise <Denise.Nelson @edmondswa.gov> Cc: Brittny Miller <bmiller@cmheatine.com> Subject: RE: Code Question The unit is not. The proposed unit is 45inches tall. I was trying to find a permit online for the existing unit to see how tall it might be. It's hard to tell in the picture if the existing unit is short or not. Could you tell me when the 36 inch rule went into effect so I can use that as ammo when I go back to the consultant with this? I don't remember having to enter height information when pulling permits for Edmonds before the mybuildingpermits days. Sincerely, Hannah Hageage Permit Coordinator CM Heating k 425-259-0550 © hhageageCaD-cmheating.com n www.cmheating.com 6, 1500 Industry St #200, Everett, WA 98203 From: Nelson, Denise < Denise. Nelson @edmondswa.gov> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 11:04 AM To: Hannah Hageage <h_h_ageage@cmheating.com> Cc: Brittny Miller <bmiller@cmheatine.com> Subject: RE: Code Question The only way it could go in this location is if it's under 36". Is it? From: Hannah Hageage <hhageage@cmheating.com> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 10:58 AM To: Nelson, Denise <Denise.Nelson@edmondswa.gov> Cc: Brittny Miller <bmiller@cmheating.com> Subject: Code Question Hey Denise, I was wondering if the city of Edmonds will "grandfather" in a location. For example, I am working with a consultant on a house with a preexisting heat pump. This home has a location that was literally built for their outdoor unit, but the unit sits too close to the property line now. This is an RS-10, but the current unit sits 7 feet from the property line. Is there any way this will be approved because of the fact that we are just swapping a like for like unit, or do we need to change locations? Thank you so much in advance for looking into this! I have no submitted anything yet. I am just figuring out if we can here or not. The address is 8208 182"d PI SW if you need it. Sincerely, '>M —i-877-CMHEATI _c Hannah Hageage Permit Coordinator CM Heating v 425-259-0550 © hhageage(a)cmheating.com ems- www.cmheating.com 1500 Industry St #200, C Everett, WA 98203 5