ATTACHMENT 9 PHASE 2 Public CommentsThe proposed project at 611 Main Street has problems that need to be
addressed. As a citizen and builder in Edmonds I'm not against development. I
am, however, vehemently opposed to bad development in our quaint downtown
core. This building doesn't check all the boxes, and I implore the ADB to suggest
specific changes to this building. It's a plain, big, ugly box that doesn't fit in and if
allowed to be built will be an eyesore for the foreseeable future.
I don't subscribe to the thought that this year's ugly building will be the gem of the
future. Or that we can't require the developer to do anything that isn't spelled out
in the code. We can and we have in the past. This building's lack of design
features has stirred the criticism of many citizens.
The developer doesn't seem to care that he is about to drop two big, featureless,
boxy buildings into our quaint downtown core. This building doesn't even seem to
meet the bare minimum design standards. Much of the building's design goal
appears to be to yield the cheapest possible structure for the highest profit. If that
was the design team's goal then a great job. Mission accomplished.
Again, I implore the ADB to dig deep and suggest meaningful changes to the
developer to help improve the look and function of this mundane addition to our
downtown core.
The following items need work:
-The public and private amenity space is extremely small for such a large
building.
-Glazing on the street side is not even close to being in compliance.
- The Main Street front entrance is small and will limit future commercial use of
the building. It does nothing for the interplay between pedestrians and visitors to
the building.
- ADA access is horrible. There is no elevator connecting the 1 st and 2nd floors.
One elevator going to all floors is the right thing to do.
-The dumpster's space appears to have two large doors opening out 5' into a 15'
alley. This design shows a complete lack of respect for the neighbors' access to
alley use. The 15' alley with the building built on the line is too tight for increased
traffic flow and will hamper other residents' use of the alley.
Edmonds deserves better. This project needs specific changes brought forth by
the ADB to address its shortcomings. I have ideas about the front and plaza side
of this building that I would like to share later in the hearing if allowed by
Chairman Bayer. I applaud Chairman Bayer for allowing additional public
comments at the Dayton project last month and hope she will see fit to allow it
again tonight.
Thankyou
Received by Greg Brewer on
6-15-2023
Kathy Brewer, Edmonds resident
I am dismayed at what is about to happen to our historic, quaint downtown with
two proposed buildings by one developer that may meet building code but
definitely do not meet the design standards that Edmonds residents expect and
desire in our special city. Both of the buildings require the removal of historic
buildings that add charm to our town while replacing them with bland, oversized,
boxy, cheap looking structures that will negatively impact our downtown. The
designs lack the qualities that would add to livability for their future residents and
will mar the neighborhoods and impact the neighbors negatively. I am hoping
that the ADB members and the planners will take this to heart and act
appropriately to request the improvement of these buildings' design so they won't
be regretful structures that we will all have to live with. Better design is of the
utmost importance for both of these buildings.
Here are some of my criticisms for the proposed development at 611 Main Street:
As I described previously, the building is unattractive, oversized and unfit for our
quaint downtown. At the gateway, it will be an out -of -scale eye sore compared to
the moderate sized, historic buildings surrounding the charming fountain nearby.
The street appeal from Main is totally uninviting. The entry is smaller than what
most houses have.
The building spans from sidewalk to alley with no open space which is conducive
to livability and pedestrian access.
The continuous planter box along the front is a barrier for pedestrian traffic.
The glazing requirements are meant to connect business and pedestrian traffic.
The smaller windows do not and do not meet BD2 standards.
The public amenity space is spartan at best. There are no outside private
amenity spaces of any kind. Plazas, patios and decks are welcoming and
promote livability. These are lacking or non-existent.
The ADA access is the bare minimum. The ADA ramp takes up 40% of the plaza
and would be better located at the front where the planter box is.
There is no elevator to the second story units. This is not inclusive and the result
will be to deny certain people from living there or visiting. This does not fit our
welcoming Edmonds nature.
These are just some of the many faults of this design. This development needs
to go back to the drawing board and some major thought and consideration
should be put into it before the planners should even consider it.
Please ... I ask the ADB members and planners to acknowledge our concerns
and help this developer achieve a better design. The bare minimum is not
acceptable for our precious downtown. 6th and Main is the gateway and this
development will mar it forever. This location deserves a quality building, not this
one that could be located anywhere. The future of our downtown is in your
hands. Please do the right thing for Edmonds and our residents and request
positive changes for this development.
Thank you
From:
Levitan, David
To:
Citizens Arch Design Board
Cc:
Szafran, Michele; Clugston, Michael
Subject:
Fwd: Comments for tonight"s hearings for the Main and Dayton Street Projects.
Date:
Thursday, May 25, 2023 5:55:20 PM
One additional public comment.
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From: Kathy Brewer <brewerkathyk@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 5:47 PM
To: Planning <planning@edmondswa.gov>; Council <Council@edmondswa.gov>
Subject: Comments for tonight's hearings for the Main and Dayton Street Projects.
To ADB, Planning Board and City Council,
Here are my comments for tonight's hearings for the Main and Dayton Street
Projects.
simply want to say that both of them are ugly, unimaginative, and unfit for our
charming, historical downtown. The developer, architect and planners have no
respect for Edmonds nor the wishes of our citizens, boards and council. These
should never be approved. Once built, they will be a permanent eyesore and
change the appearance and feel of our downtown and open the door to more
inappropriate, unattractive buildings. We can do better than this.
Sincerely,
Kathy Brewer
To: The Architectural Design Board
Special Meeting regarding 611 on Main
From: Lynda Fireman, Resident
600 Bell Street, #201
Edmonds, WA 98020
My comments are on the impact this development will have on those of us who live across
from and on the alley. The impact on the alley is never addressed.
I'm only addressing some of the items in the provided materials with some additiona
comments and questions.
Packet Pg.6 Comments from the Planning Department:
1. "The site is relatively level with a "gentle" downward slope from east to west with an
elevation change of about 5 feet across the 90-foot -wide site".
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This is only on Main Street. On the alley, there is change of about 10 feet from the SE
elevation on Main to the NW corner of the lot. It will be a flat 4-Story wall on the alley. The
11t floor of the present building is higher than my 2"d floor condo.
2. "When HVAC equipment is at ground level, it shall be integrated into building design
and/or use screening techniques to avoid both visual and noise impacts on adjoining
properties"
...and again, on the alley? It's already visual pollution, please no noise pollution!
3. "Breakup the approx. 66-foot wide largely blank wall along the north facade"
I'd like to propose a mural, on the entire blank wall, commemorating and including the
historic cottage, that is being torn down, with many trees and shrubs showing in the
background.
The Comprehensive Plan "encourages the use of alley entrances and courtyards to beautify
the back alleys in the commercial and mixed -use areas in the downtown areas. Since there is
no "space", please beautify the wall.
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Packet Pg. 29 Comments from the Architect:
"Even though the property is well below the threshold requiring outdoor open space, a
plaza is provided as a gathering space along the east side of the building accessed directly from
the sidewalk and providing access to the apartment entrance."
In an 18-unit building, is space for one bench considered a gathering space? Please address
this.
Packet Pg. 72 Fire Comments:
"South Elevation measures over 33' height"
"Requires fire lape hat is 26' wide and will need to be'between 15' and 30' away from the
building ogin Street"
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Packet Pg. 74 Architect Corrections:
. unless he means the No elevation.
ils and where it will be
1. "The north elevation now has a base of masonry veneer. "
Again, I propose/suggest a mural, on the entire blank wall, honoring the historic cottage that
is being torn down, including both shrubs and trees above the veneer. This provides visual
interest and is in keeping with the murals that are on many buildings in downtown Edmonds,
even in the alleys.
2. "No HVAC equipment is going to be installed on the roof."
Does this mean that the building will not have air conditioning? Is there enough air flow in
the building. There is also climate change and temperatures are rising.
There are no measurements given. Can the height of the lofts be reduced to allow HVAC on
the roof?
If equipment is installed, other than on the roof, I respectfully ask that it not be installed
where it will cause noise pollution in the alley as well as on the adjacent properties.
The alley will already have visual pollution, please don't add noise pollution.
Packet Pg. 82 Architect Response
"The transformer is now on the NW corner"
Question: What is the noise level of the transformer as it is now in the alley?
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Packet pg. 101 Applying the Design Guidelines & Considering the Site
My request of the Architectural Design Board is to please consider the impact the building is
having on the North side/alley. For some reason we are not considered adjacent nor is the
impact considered for anyone else that lives on this alley.
Please consider:
1. Visual Pollution on the alley:
My view of this building, from 13 of my 27 windows, will be of a 4-story flat wall. It will
eliminate direct sunlight and openness to my environment. We're all going to feel hemmed
in.
Again, my request/suggestion is a mural honoring the historic cottage, that is being torn
down with many shrubs and trees. This will provide a reprieve from looking at a "4-story flat
wall" and will add visual interest and relief. It is in keeping with the murals that are on many
buildings in downtown Edmonds, even in the alleys.
2. Possible Noise Pollution on the alley:
Please don't allow any noise producing equipment around the perimeter of the building. We
need to sleep.
3. Vehicle Safety on the alley:
Our 3 garages are at a lower level than the alley and our garbage enclosure is also raised up
to alley level making it hard to see and be seen when exiting. Please make sure that the
sight lines from the 611 Main garage are addressed. Convex mirrors are not approved.
Both entrances/exits to the alley on 6th & 7th are narrow and sight lines are obscured by
parking on 6th and 71h too close to the alley openings. It would be good to have the yellow
lines extended on both sides on 61h and 7th to prevent accidents. Please make sure we are
safe.
4. Pedestrian/Personal Safety on the alley:
There is, at times, a lot of pedestrian use of this alley.
School children walk to and then back from the school bus every school day.
Families with small children and visitors to Edmonds frequently walk up and down the alley,
particularly in good weather and when there are special events.
This narrow alley fluctuates in size, at the most 15 ft and often as narrow as 12 feet. Please
make sure we are safe.
Thank you for your consideration and help with this difficult situation.