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2024-02-02 Council Retreat MinutesEDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MEETING
SPECIAL MEETING — COUNCIL/STAFF RETREAT
APPROVED MINUTES
February 2, 2024
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Mike Rosen, Mayor
Vivian Olson, Council President
Chris Eck, Councilmember
Will Chen, Councilmember
Neil Tibbott, Council President
Michelle Dotsch, Councilmember
Susan Paine, Councilmember
Jenna Nand, Councilmember
1. ARRIVE GET COFFEE, GET SETTLED
1. CALL TO ORDER
STAFF PRESENT
Michelle Bennett, Police Chief
Kim Dunscombe, Deputy Admin. Serv. Director
Oscar Antillon, Public Works Director
Angie Feser, Parks, Rec., & Human Serv. Dir.
Jessica Neill Hoyson, HR Director
Susan McLaughlin, Planning & Dev. Dir.
Todd Tatum, Comm., Culture & Econ. Dev. Dir.
Jeff Taraday, City Attorney
Scott Passey, City Clerk
Carolyn LaFave, Executive Assistant to the Mayor
Beckie Peterson, Council Executive Assistant
Jeannie Dines, Recorder
The Edmonds City Council retreat was called to order at 9:50 p.m. by Mayor Rosen in the Library Plaza
Room, 650 Main Street, Edmonds, and virtually.
3. LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
Deputy Administrative Services Director Kim Dunscombe read the City Council Land Acknowledge
Statement: "We acknowledge the original inhabitants of this place, the Sdohobsh (Snohomish) people and
their successors the Tulalip Tribes, who since time immemorial have hunted, fished, gathered, and taken
care of these lands. We respect their sovereignty, their right to self-determination, and we honor their sacred
spiritual connection with the land and water."
4. ROLL CALL
City Clerk Scott Passey called the roll. All elected officials were present.
5. COUNCIL BUSINESS
A. WARM UP EXERCISE
Mayor Rosen provided opening remarks.
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Attendees participated in a warm up exercise where each said two truths and a lie and the group guessed
which one was the lie.
B. WHO'S LANE IS IT ANYWAY?
Council President Olson explained this agenda item is to help us understand our roles and responsibilities
and where can find ourselves crossing paths and getting into territory that is not legitimately ours and how
that causes conflict. She introduced Steve DiJulio, Senior Principal, Foster Garvey, and described his
background.
Mr. DiJulio explained he hoped to be a catalyst for the discussion and encouraged attendees to participate.
• Outline
o The Basics — The Legal Lanes
o Legal issues around public comments in meetings and the importance of community
engagement
o Legal exposures in government, including conflicts of interest and ethics
o How your role can prevent divisiveness that undermines citizen trust in city government — Best
Practice Lanes
• An Approach: Basic Civics
o Virtual Citizens Academy
■ The City of Snoqualmie proudly presents the Virtual Citizens Academy designed to engage
and educate the public about the many facets of operating a municipality.
hLtps://www.snoqualmiewa.gov/308/Citizens-Academy
o Also see:
www.eu eng a-or.gov/DocumentCenterNiew/28908/So-You-Want-to-Run-For-Local-Office-
League-of-Oregon-Cities?
• City of Edmonds: Code City, under Title 35A RCW
o Mayor -Council form of governance
0 1 st Class and Code City Authority
■ The "home rule" principle seeks to increase government accountability by limiting state -
level interference in local affairs...
■ In this context, it is appropriate for Washington courts to "liberally construe[]" legislative
grants of power to cities, particularly first class cities.
Watson v. City of Seattle (August 10, 2017)
■ 35.22.570 also grants first class cities all powers Title 35 RCW gives to other cities...
With respect to municipal business taxes, Seattle has the authority to "collect a license tax
for the purposes of revenue and regulation," a power granted to second class cities. RCW
35.23.440(8).
Watson v. City of Seattle (August 10, 2017)
[see RCW 35A.11.020 for code cities]
Mr. DiJulio responded to questions regarding whether there is any legislation in the pipeline to allow cities
to have DUI checkpoints, and whether Washington is considering parental liability for the conduct of minor
children related to gun violence. Mr. DiJulio continued:
Basics — City Government
o 1889 Washington Statehood
Who Does What?
o Council (Legislative Authority)
o Executive
■ Mayor
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- Administrator/Supervisor
■ Manager
o City Attorney & Special Counsel
Actions of Legislative Authority
o Motion
o Resolution
o Ordinance
o Veto
o When is policy the law?
■ When adopted by ordinance
Mr. DiJulio responded to questions regarding the mayor's discretion to enforce violation of law,
enforcement of state requirements, mayor's authority to prioritize enforcement, council's delegation of
authority to the mayor, and mayor's role in legislative authority. Mr. DiJulio continued:
o Council acts as one
■ Individual councilmembers without authority
Note: City of Renton v. Playtime Theaters, 475 U.S.41(1986)
■ Following the assumption that the city's government is business to its logical conclusion,
the autocratic mayor is the natural consequence. In the modern business world the captain
of industry has come be the chief figure. With the perfection of organization, concentration
of power, and fixing responsibility there has developed a one-man rule in big business.
These examples have had an influence on development of municipal structure, organization
and methods, and as a result the autocratic mayor has been evolved. It is often conceded
that efficiency of the public service is of more importance than the haphazard working of
democracy in the old way. The voters are free to choose the mayor in the first instance
whose term is limited...
2 A.E. McQuillin, The Law of Municipal Corporations, 213 (3d Ed. 1996).
■ RCW 35A.12.110 (part)
- Meetings of the council shall be presided over by the mayor, if present, or otherwise
by the mayor pro tempore, or deputy mayor if one has been appointed, or by a member
of the council selected by a majority of the councilmembers at such meeting.
The Blurred Line Between Policy and Administration
o Of course, things do not always run smoothly between the council and the city administration,
and the line between policy and administration in some situations is not clear....
o The mayor or city manager may direct that all communications with city staff go through his
or her office. The council, in response, may feel that the mayor is unlawfully restricting its
access to city personnel for information purposes.
Mayor & Councilmember's Handbook, Page 33
Council - staff relations
o 35A.13.120 City manager -Interference by council members.
■ Neither the council, nor any of its committees or members, shall direct the appointment of
any person to, or his removal from, office by the city manager or any of his subordinates
except for the purpose of inquiry, the council and its members shall deal with the
administrative service solely through the manager and neither the council nor any
committee or member thereof shall give orders to any subordinate of the city manager,
either publicly or privately. The provisions of this section do not prohibit the council, while
in open session, from fully and freely discussing with the city manager anything pertaining
to appointments and removals of city officers and employees and city affairs.
Personnel Management?
o RCW 35A.12.090 addresses appointment and removal of officers:
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■ Mayor with power of appointment and removal
■ Qualifications may be set by ordinance [highly unusual]
■ Council confirmation of appointments when provided by ordinance
Separate City Council Staff?
o MRSC INQUIRY NO. 98-2101 (April 20, 1998):
■ "It does not appear possible for the council in a non -charter code city to provide for
legislative staff positions that are subject to appointment and removal by the council
members rather than the mayor."
See also MRSC Inquiry No. 06-4229 (August 9, 2006)
Communications! Council - Staff Issues
Mr. DiJulio responded to questions regarding the mayor's role during deliberation of policy at council
meetings, ability for a council majority to override the mayor's ruling as the presiding officer during a
meeting, the mayor's delegation authority for city council staff, the public's communication with the
council and mayor, and social media policies. Mr. DiJulio continued:
Civility and the conduct of the people's business
o PASCO - The Pasco City Council voted Monday to replace its representative on the Benton -
Franklin Council of Governments after a councilman misrepresented the city at a meeting last
week...
Tri-City Herald October 22, 2009
o Potential Areas of Conflict
■ Budgets
■ Setting agendas
■ Contract administration
Questions and discussion followed regarding council liaison to boards and commissions speaking for
council, best practices related to staff responding during council meetings, authority for agenda setting
delegated to council president (in consultation with the major) in Edmonds, and other cities that hold
informal work sessions with staff and council. Mr. DiJulio continued:
• Budgets
o Individual Councilmember Agendas?
■ Is it in Capital Facility Plan?
■ Is it in Annual Work Plan or Program?
■ Is there an approved budget?
■ Do City resources otherwise support (what other priority deferred)?
o Budget Schedule - Ch. 35A.33 RCW
[https://mrsc.org/explore-topics/finance/budgets/city-budget-calendar ]
o Procurement and Contracts
■ What Level of Authorization to Delegate to Administration?
- Examples:
El Bellevue - $35,000 (BMC 4.28.170)
Auburn - Directors $10,000; Mayor $100,000, when budgeted (ACC 3.10.010)
Lynnwood -Mayor $100,000, when consistent with budget (LMC2.92.020)
Questions and discussion followed regarding how delegation of contracting authority works "when
consistent with budget," whether Edmonds' purchasing policy references "when consistent with budget,"
at what level change orders have to come to council, and council adoption of purchasing policies. Mr.
DiJulio continued:
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Municipal Finance
o State and each local government must have balanced budget
Management of Legal Services
o State law authorizes the obtaining of legal services "for the city". RCW 35A.12.020. Neither
the council alone nor the mayor alone constitutes "the city". Rather, RCW 35A.12.010 vests
the government of a non -charter code city, adopting the mayor -council plan of government, in
an "elected mayor and an elected council".
o In this respect and in others, chapter 35A.12 RCW contemplates that the mayor and the city
council will act together on behalf of the city.
■ 1997 AGO No. 7, at 3.
o In Washington, there are two scenarios in which the town council of a municipal corporation
has the implied authority to hire outside counsel.
■ One, if the council hires outside counsel to represent it, and it prevails on the substantive
issue to the benefit of the town, a court may direct the town to pay the reasonable fees and
costs of outside counsel.
- See Tukwila v. Todd, 17 Wn. App. 401, 563 P.2d 223 (1977).
■ Two, if extraordinary circumstances exist, such that the mayor and/or town council is
incapacitated, or the town attorney refuses to act or is incapable of acting, a court may
determine that a contract with outside counsel is both appropriate and necessary.
- State v. Volkmer, 73 Wn. App. 89, 95, 867, P.2d 678 (1994)
- See Knowing the Territory, at 32-33.
Questions and discussion continued regarding the administration's access to the city attorney, differences
between an in-house city attorney versus a contract city attorney, and perceived conflict of interest with
boards/commissions. Mr. DiJulio continued:
• Incompatible Offices
o A person may not hold simultaneous, incompatible public offices. Offices are incompatible
when the functions of the office are inconsistent or the public interest would suffer.
■ See Knowing the Territory
• Recall
o A recall petition must meet two tests: factual sufficiency and legal sufficiency. Facts in a recall
petition, verified under oath must show misfeasance, malfeasance, or violation of the oath of
office. Exercise of judgment or discretion cannot be grounds for recall.
■ See In re the Recall of Pepper, 189 Wn.2d 546 (2017); and
■ In re Recall oflnslee, Supreme Court No. 99948-1 (April 28, 2022)
• Municipal Finance
o Local taxation must be authorized by a legislative delegation of taxing power. See WASH.
CONST. art. I § 1.
o Municipal corporations have no inherent power to tax.
■ Arborwood Idaho, LLC v. City of Kennewick, 151 Wn.2d 359 (2004)
• Public Meetings and Public Comment
o Meetings
■ The people insist on remaining informed so that they retain control over the instruments
they have created.
• OPMA - RCW 42.30.205 (enacted 2014)
o Every member of a governing body (including members of boards and commissions) of a
public agency must complete open meetings training within 90 days after taking the oath of
office or otherwise assuming official duties. Training must be completed every four years, and
may be completed remotely.
• Legislative Declaration
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o The legislature finds and declares that all public commissions, boards, councils, committees,
subcommittees, departments, divisions, offices, and all other public agencies of this state and
subdivisions thereof exist to aid in the conduct of the people's business. It is the intent of this
chapter that their actions be taken openly and that their deliberations be conducted openly.
■ RCW 42.30.010
"Meeting" means meetings at which action is taken.
o "Action" is broadly defined as "the transaction of the official business of a public agency by a
governing body including but not limited to":
■ Receipt of public testimony
■ Deliberations
■ Discussions
■ Considerations
■ Reviews
■ Evaluations
■ Final actions
o "Meeting" does not require members to be present in the same location or even interact
simultaneous.
■ Conference call with a majority
■ Email exchange that includes substantive input from a majority
■ "Serial" meetings such as a phone tree or repeated discussions
■ BUT simply receiving information without comment is not a meeting
Questions and discussion followed regarding a mayor's advisory committee may not be subject to OPMA,
when subcommittees/panels/taskforce/work groups are subject to OPMA, liberal interpretation of the
OPMA, serial meetings, when a member of the public serves as a conduit for a serial meeting, the mayor
having 1:2 or 1:3 meetings with council, and the ability for councilmembers to talk to each other one on
one as long as not providing input from other councilmembers. Mr. DiJulio continued:
• Committees & Task Forces
o See Clark v. City of Lakewood, 259 F.3d 996 (9th Cir. 2001)
o Lakewood Adult Entertainment Task Force met in violation of OPMA
• Parliamentary Procedures
o Parliamentary procedures are local rules or customs regulating the conduct of legislative
proceedings. However, a majority of the quorum will control the meeting procedures.
o You can disagree without being disagreeable. Bernard Meltzer/Ronald Regan
• WAIT — Why Am I Talking?
• WANT — Why Aren't I Talking?
• Executive Sessions
o Common grounds:
1. National security or (new in 2017) infrastructure/computer security
2. Acquisition of real estate
3. Sale/lease of real estate (final decision in open meeting)
[Must be focused on price, not factors affecting value.
Columbia Riverkeepers v. Port of Vancouver USA, 188 Wn.2d 421 (June 8, 2017)]
4. Evaluate charges against a public officer or employee
5. To evaluate the qualifications of an applicant/performance review
6. To evaluate the qualifications of a candidate for appointment to elective office.
Interviews and selection in public
7. To discuss with legal counsel enforcement action or potential litigation
RCW 70.44.062
o Confidentiality of Executive Session
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■ Attorney General Opinion 2017 No. 5:
■ Legal obligation to not disclose information discussed in properly convened executive
session.
■ Disclosure would violate Code of Ethics of Municipal Officers.
■ Could also constitute:
- Misdemeanor offense under RCW 42.20.100, or
- Official misconduct under RCW 9A.80.010.
• SCOTUS: Censure did not violate official's First Amendment rights
o In a unanimous 13-page ruling, Justice Neil Gorsuch noted that "elected bodies in this country
have long exercised the power to censure their members," and there is no reason to believe that
the First Amendment was intended to change that practice. "If anything," Gorsuch observed,
censures for an elected representative's speech "have proven more common yet at the state and
local level."
Houston Community College System v. Wilson (March 24, 2022)
• Public Hearings and the Hearing Process
o All meetings of governmental bodies are public meetings, but not all meetings are public
hearings. Public hearings are the proceedings in which public comment is invited.
• Three Categories of Government Property
o Traditional public forum, the designated public forum, and the non-public forum.
Ark. Educ. Television Comm'n v. Forbes, 523 U.S. 666, 677-78, 118 S.Ct. 1633, 140 L.Ed.2d
875 (1998) ...
• Mayor's removal of disruptive citizen from commission meeting does not violate first amendment
Jones v. Heyman, 888 F.2d 1328 (1Ith Cir. 1989)
• Public Comment - Disruptive?
o Video of speaker at Dallas City Council meeting wearing protective clothing and mask and
wiping podium with disinfectant
o ...The motion passed by the Spokane City Council was not legislation generally applicable to
the entire community but rather an act directed specifically at Mission. It was administrative or
executive in nature, not legislative, and therefore legislative immunity is not available here.
Mission Springs v. City ofSpokane,134 Wn.2d 947 (1998).
o Therefore, we have rather a straightforward situation where clear legal rights of the citizen were
violated by city council members acting in excess of their lawful authority and by a City
Manager acting in excess of his own lawful authority but at the urging of the City Council.
Mission Springs v. City of Spokane, 134 Wn.2d at 961.
o Burien - $10.5 million verdict - developer alleged project was delayed
o Thurston County - $12 million -+ fees
■ Maytown Sand & Gravel, LLC v. Thurston County, 191 Wn.2d 392 (2018)
■ $ 8 million to the Port of Tacoma, and
■ $ 4 million to Maytown
o SeaTac News (July 14, 2016)
■ City of SeaTac slapped with $18.3 million judgment inland use case; Judge calls for formal
sanctions
■ The trial judge also concluded the former SeaTac mayor wanted condos built on the site,
believing they would price out Somalis who had moved into "his neighborhood."
(Seattle Times 7126116)
Questions and discussion followed regarding whether speakers who disregard the three minute limit are
considered disruptive, cities that have a police presence at council meetings, and the difference between
public speech that is a threat by law and freedom of speech. Mr. DiJulio continued:
• City's involvement in International, National land Other Local Issues?
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42.23.070 Prohibited Acts
o (3) No municipal officer may accept employment or engage in business or professional activity
that the officer might reasonably expect would require or induce him or her by reason of his or
her official position to disclose confidential information acquired by reason of his or her official
position.
o (4) No municipal officer may disclose confidential information gained by reason of the
officer's position, nor may the officer otherwise use such information for his or her personal
gain or benefit.
See Attorney General Opinion 2017 No. 5
"The most important political office is that of the private citizen."
Louis D. Brandeis (1856 1941)
Sound Cities Association - Guiding Principles
o Assume that others are acting with good intent
o No surprises!
o Have each other's backs
o Think about who is not at the table
o Be candid, but kind
o Once a decision is made, work together to make it work
o Show up to meetings prepared...
o Be fully present and engaged during meetings
o Extend grace to others — cut them some slack
o Remain open-minded
o Respect differing views
Knowing the Territory (MRSC Report 47, Revised October 2023)
https://mrsc.org/getmedia/l e641718-94a0-408b-b9d9-42b2e 1 d8180d/Knowing The-
Territorypd£aspx?ext=.pdf
Mayor Rosen recessed the retreat for lunch at 12:26 pm.
LUNCH — BRING YOUR OWN
6. CONTINUED COUNCIL BUSINESS
A. MEETING EFFICIENCY
The retreat was reconvened at 1:17 pm. Mayor Rosen reviewed the afternoon's agenda.
Attendees brainstormed what could be done to increase the efficiency of meetings which was followed by
a dot exercise where each attendee was given three dots to identify their top choices:
Votes
Ideas to Improve Meeting Efficiency
6
Ask questions in advance of meeting
Email amendments in advance
2
Draft recommendation as a motion
2
Limit comments time for individuals
Stop thanking each other
Just ask question
Make sure motion clearly worded
Rather than offering a new motion, vote against motion and then offer another motion
Motions should be restated before vote
7
Consider a reader board where motion remains visible during discussion
1
Don't argue with staff, just vote against motion
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1
Model respectful behavior
Council discussion is theirs to have
Streamline process and touchpoints revisit
2
What can we do in work sessions?
2
Pre -identify e of deliberation/discussion such as round robin
3
Make motion before deliberation
Allow council to take the time they need
1
Create clarity around purpose of the meeting — to come to a decision or speak to public, be clear
whether questions are about interest or making a decision
4
More detailed memo with alternatives andpro/con and budget implication
2
Include presentations in packet
1
If presentation made at committee, presentation at council meeting can be summary
1
Be clear about the amount time on the agenda for staff presentation and time for council
questions/discussion (maybe be specific)
1
Can we have fewer topics and fewer meetings
2
Increase committee use to go to consent so they don't go to full council
3
More study sessions
Two and threepre-meeting briefs
1
Be clear on how we got here and what is next
4
Create a legislative calendar with priorities and the path required
1
Have the chair be more proactive on pulling the plug
Group similar agenda topics
Standardize presentations
4
Ensure council has access to background materials shared network
1
Committee members help inform presentation to council
More advance notice if something can't happen at council
Don't real all words on PowerPoint
During the above brainstorming, discussion included council practice of not taking action at the same
meeting as public hearing; the purpose of council meetings to get council to decision point, not to talking
to their constituents; public criticism of councilmembers meeting with staff in groups of 2-3; all items on
the list worth pursuing.
The top priorities, determined via the dot exercise were:
#1: Consider a reader board where motion remains visible during discussion
#2 Ask questions in advance of meeting
Tie # 3 Ensure council has access to background materials (shared network)
Tie # 3 Create a legislative calendar with priorities and the path required
Tie # 3 More detailed memo with alternatives and pro/con and budget implication
B. IDENTIFYING THE CRITICAL FEW
Councilmember Olson explained this is a preliminary conversation related to budgeting by priorities. If the
City has to get back to basics or if public wants the City to get back to basics, what are the basics, the critical
things that regardless of what is going on, the council will always fund and prioritize. She suggested
identifying the critical few via a round robin method:
• Police
• Fire
• Sewer (non-GF)
• Water (non-GF)
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• Stormwater (non-GF)
• Roads/transportation
• Public safety in context of maintenance
• Financial management/stewardship/debt service/budget for reserves
• Legal compliance - reporting, ADA, employee value proposition/labor requirements
• Climate response/resilience
• Human services
• Planning
• Revenue generating activities (lobbying and grant writing)
• Emergency management
• Preservation of natural resources
• Codes
During the above, questions and discussion included the lens for identifying the critical few and whether it
essential services, quality of life or surviving a recession; the City's financial situation forcing the council
to consider getting back to basics and considering the core purpose of government; what services cities are
required to provide under the RCW or WAC versus discretionary funding; level of preparedness or level of
service the council is willing to pay for; the function of government; developing relationships with other
government agencies to increase efficiencies; the City's core responsibilities now versus in the past;
Edmonds' quality of life; having staff enumerate all the programs they administer and citing the law that
requires it; cost recovery of recreation programs; determining key services the City must provide;
considering the total cost to provide a service not just by department; whether the public is willing to pay
more taxes for new services; telling the story to the public; sewer, stormwater, and water are required but
are not General Fund funded; services that are offset by fees; considering the effects of cost cuts made today
on future generations; doing the best for the most people in the long run; looking at City facilities to
determine whether space is being utilized appropriately and/or whether all spaces are needed; conducting a
resource needs assessment; space and workforce planning for core services; and the relationship between
workspace and employee turnover.
C. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BRIEFING
Police Chief Michelle Bennett explained the former mayor moved emergency management from HR to the
police department. She described her background in emergency management in other cities. An emergency
management consultant was hired to assist the City; when conducting an assessment, they identified several
concerning issues. She relayed on Monday, February 12, there will be a tsunami walk and talk regarding
the City's tsunami evacuation route followed by a community meeting on February 29. She will advise
council of the location and times.
Chief Bennett provided councilmembers the City's current Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan
(CEMP) and presented, "Everything You Didn't Known that You Wanted to Know about Emergency
Management in Edmonds."
• Overview
o Edmonds is the largest city in Sno county still contracting this function out. All suburban cities
the size of Edmonds in King County do their own EM function so as to ensure they know how
to respond and recover from an emergency and disasters.
• NIMS and RCW Requirements
o Requirements
■ Mandate for training, training exercises, public education, mitigation, recovery.
■ The City is responsible to ensure these functions are met.
■ The City can provide the resources to fulfill these mandates or contract them out — as the
city has done for years.
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■ We have been assessing whether contracting this function out has been in the best interest
of the city and its community.
o Consultants have set up interviews with State DEM, Snohomish County EM, South Sno County
Fire and Rescue, Marysville.
o Next to interview City Staff and Port of Edmonds
Snohomish County Interlocal Agreement
o Snohomish County Department of Emergency Management provides regional emergency
services for all cities in Snohomish County except Marysville and Everett. The City of
Edmonds is the largest city in this current group of contracted cities.
o Need to notify Snohomish County by March 31 st if you will sign with them for 2025.
o The County collects from the State Homeland Security Emergency Management Program
Grant funding for each city about $25,000 this year, for Edmonds.
o The City was also paying $124,950 for a "Safety and Disaster Coordinator".
o The City needs to decide if they are going all in on building out the Emergency Management
Function and hire a FTE dedicated to build the program.
■ This would focus on getting the city readiness capabilities for staff and citizens to be able
to prepare for, respond to, and recover from Emergencies.
- Or will the city remain in the partnership with the County.
o City has a contract through the end of 2024. The fee for 2025 will be $59,000.
■ It includes one Public Education Outreach and one agency specific exercise for each city.
Also includes training that Edmonds can send staff to.
■ They coordinate Regionally on information and planning.
■ They do not staff the Edmonds EOC or write all the plans that are specific to Edmonds.
o Having our own Emergency Manager and dropping out of the Snohomish County contract will
give us the $84k back for our own emergency management.
■ A $41,000 cost in total versus the $124,950
o The city can do a hybrid agreement to partner with them on ensuring you have a valid Hazard
Mitigation Plan and Emergency Notification until we can afford to provide our own.
Comprehensive Emergency management Plan (CEMP)
o Required by the Federal Government FEMA and State Law Updated every five years
o The CEMP outlines how the City will prevent, mitigate, respond, and recover from
emergencies. It describes each department's roles and responsibilities. It describes what
authorities are given for the City to respond to and manage emergencies in their legal
jurisdiction.
o Our current CEMP reads like a template from the ESCA (Emergency Care Systems
Assessment) days and refers to this now defunct entity.
o Our current CEMP refers to the wrong highways (1-5 and 405) and refers to procedures we
don't have.
o It also doesn't cite plans/policies we do have.
o Relevant SOPS, SOGs, Appendices and Annex are not included or referred to in the current
CEMP.
o Ordinances are referenced that aren't all valid.
o To date we cannot confirm if the City Council ever approved this plan.
CEMP Issues
o The letter of Promulgation that is in the front of the Emergency Plan is one from 2017.
o The date was empty - just the year 2017 and the signatures were the Mayor in 2017 and the
Snohomish County Director in 2017.
o The City Clerk's Office said it was on the Council Schedule for Jan. 3, 2023, but there are no
council notes for that date. No signed Promulgation.
o A blank Promulgation for 2023 was located in the files of the former Disaster Coordinator.
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■ It has Mayor Nelson's name on it and the Acting Director of Snohomish County Emergency
Management Dara Salmon.
- Ms. Salmon said she never saw the document and didn't sign it.
- Ms. Salmon said typically she would have been at the Council Meeting to explain their
role.
o The authorities' section of the CEMP asks that you list all City, State and Federal Authorities
used for this version of the plan.
■ Edmonds listed:
- Ordinance 2224 - This was a 1981 Ordinance that added a new section to EMC 6.60
Disaster Preparation and Coordination. Since 6.60 has been updated a couple times
since 1981 this no longer is need to support this plan.
- Ordinance 4185 - This is a 2020 Ordinance that was updating some language from
EMC 6.60. However, it refers to the City's former Emergency Management agreement
with an agency called ESCA. ESCA closed their agency in 2015. This Ordinance
should not be in this section.
- EMC 6.60 was updated in 2022.
- None of the authorities referenced in this section referred to the 2005 Homeland
Security mandate that all governments adopt the National Incident Management
System (NIMS) as their incident management plan.
o In a request for all the ordinances and laws concerning the Edmonds EM function, a couple
others were referred to us, but NIMS wasn't one of them.
■ NIMS language is typically found in the agency's main emergency management code, like
EMC 6.60.
o The consultants found Resolution 1084 from 2005 where the City did adopt NIMS, in a random
training file from Public Works. It needs to be added to page 3 or rolled into 6.60.
o Introduction of CEMP page 3. This refers to the three sections of the CEMP. Basic Plan,
Emergency Support Functions (ESF's) and the Incident Specific Annexes: Evacuation and
Movement, Damage Assessment, Debris Management, Animal Disaster Protection and
Pandemic Response.
■ The Incident Specific Annexes are not in the CEMP. They aren't listed in the Table of
Contents either.
■ Our consultants located these in draft form on the SharePoint site that the former Disaster
Coordinator was using. They need to be completed.
o One example is located in ESF 10 - Hazardous Materials. Under the title "Situation" - it refers
to two highways not in Edmonds and leaves out significant highways like HWY 99, 104 and
96.
■ "Hazardous material incidents may occur anywhere and at any time within the city. The
city is impacted by major transportation routes which are used to transport hazardous
materials. These include Interstate Highways 5 and 405.Other primary routes include State
Routes 527 and 96, as well as Burlington Northern Railway lines. "
o A theory is someone in the city cut and pasted a different plan but failed to update to city of
Edmonds specific information.
o Snohomish County has an approved CEMP plan, and the City has paid through 2024, so this
helps.
o However, Snohomish County advised that Edmonds should do an annex to their Sno Co plan
and asked all the cities to use their template to be an annex to their plan. The Cities of Edmonds
and Lynnwood opted out and wanted to do their own plans.
o The Edmonds Plan was never submitted to Snohomish County for review.
Hazard Mitigation Plan (HMP) and Prevention Strategies
o Mandated by the Federal and State Government and updated every five years.
o Review of 2019 Process for 2020 Plan and what went wrong:
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The 2020 HMP Plan — Staff (Planning, Public Works, and Disaster Coordinator) at the City
worked from late 2019 with staff at the Snohomish County Department of Emergency
Management and completed their annex in October 2020.
This work wasn't taken to the City Council for approval in 2020 or 2021. The City had one
year to get it approved by the City Council by the end of 2021 and it was not done.
In 2023, the County worked to get the City "grandfathered" into the Snohomish County
plan if the City could get the plan approved
- However, as there was no movement on this by April 2023, FEMA refused to give any
more extensions.
- FEMA also made some key requirements about what needs to be in all plans going
forward. FEMA recommended that Edmonds concentrate on getting the 2025 plan
done in 2024.
HMP: Consequences
o If a disaster occurs before a new plan is authorized, the City can apply for 70% Federal
reimbursement on some of their losses and expenses, but not to the level they could if they had
an approved plan. The city at this point will only be reimbursed to the standard it was prior to
the loss, instead of to the newer building or restoration codes.
■ Loss of City Hall as an example.
- Can't rebuild it if it falls to today's building standards.
o Review Process for 2024/2025
■ The County will begin this process soon.
- Snohomish County will provide the Mayor and Council with a copy of the Mitigation
Strategies chart, Edmonds Hazard Mitigation Annex (the one that does not appear to
have been approved by Council).
13 These can be carried over into the 2025 plan, they just need to be updated.
13 The Grid should be turned into a work plan.
Other Emergency Management Issues
o Whole Community Engagement
■ This is a Federally recommended concept and also a Washington State mandate to be grant
eligible.
■ This is a process that regularly engages the "whole of community" that the organization is
in and seeks to obtain continued and coordinated stakeholder involvement.
■ The City has established a Community Committee such as this which is made up of a
diverse cross section of the city.
- The Mayor and Chief are scheduled to meet with them at the end of February to give
them an update of the EM
o Grant writing capabilities
■ If the city had a grant writer, there are millions of dollars available for hazard mitigation
and emergency management, including looking for a grant for a new EOC that meets
standards, or pay for an Emergency Manager.
o Emergency Operations Center (EOC) / Facilities
■ The current primary EOC is in the PD training room,
■ The secondary EOC is in the Public Works conference room
■ Per building codes, an EOC location must be designed to withstand the impacts of the
likely hazards such as an earthquake, etc. (same with hospitals and schools).
- We have been trying to verify with Planning and Development what standards the
Police Department and City Hall were built to.
■ There is a possibility of a future creation of virtual EOC using Microsoft Teams
o EOC staffing, training, exercises
■ A & B teams (first operational period, and then relief for a second operation period) for
staffing the EOC is being constructed now.
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■ NIMS/ICS training compliance for city staff is now being assessed
- Survey will soon be sent by the Mayor
- Should be forwarded to HR for personnel files, versus separate training files
o Emergency worker programs
■ South County Fire & Rescue is conducting CERT training; however, volunteers need to be
registered and managed through EM/EOC activations
■ We have HAM Radio volunteers
■ When we have our own program, we would register these folks into our own program
(records check, etc.)
- They are kind of in a stasis.
o Alerts and Warnings
■ Currently using the County's license to do Alert and Warning reacting to incidents. This
system is called RAVE
■ City license for RAVE - manage community notifications - will expand the capabilities to
send proactive and reactive messages. (Approx $17,000 for a license).
- Other messages could include car prowls, burglaries, etc. that Sno Co currently does
not send out.
■ If we get our own RAVE, we could pay the license versus the Sno County DEM contract
paying for it.
Questions and discussion followed regarding code requirements to rebuild damaged structures to current
standards, availability of emergency management grants, building permits issued for seismic improvements
to city buildings, function of the EOC, facilities the City has agreements with where the EOC could be
located, the consultant's recommendation that staff who receive training provide certificates to HR, having
CERT-trained individuals who speak various languages, the City's former emergency management
coordinator's efforts, considering the location of employees' residences when providing training, (ability
to respond to EOC in a disaster), public education regarding emergency management, personnel in other
fire districts who live out of state, proximity of police department personnel's residences to Edmonds, and
emergency routes.
7. CLOSING COMMENTS
Mayor Rosen reviewed next steps including distribution of Steve DiJulio's PowerPoint, distribution of the
new draft agenda memo to council and director for feedback, updating the CEMP, and distribution of the
list of meeting efficiencies and taking action on the priority items as possible.
Mayor Rosen invited attendees to comment on a takeaway from today's retreat or a goal for 2024:
• A big takeaway was discovering the CEMP not approved.
• Pleased to have an opportunity to come together on February 2. Already started on some meeting
efficiencies. The more efficient and informed the council is, the better
• Hope for 2024 is increased collaboration and communication amongst ourselves and the public and
regionally. Address problem upstream rather being reactionary. Collaboration and communication
and upstream thinking provide a strong base for fundraising
• Takeaway is reference to budgeting for reserves, a cultural shift from the prior practice of spending
down the reserve to provide more services. Look forward to identifying and implementing
sustainable revenue streams to fund city operations sustainably.
• Encouraged with the fact that staff and council are talking more and things are already happening
behind scenes. The council needs information that shows impacts now and in future. The council
can't do everything and needs to tell the public what the City can/cannot deliver and make decisions
based on sustainable effort/services. The CEMP is on the City's website; the map shows arterials
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and routes. The public works maintenance crew knows all the emergency routes and are good at
coordinate with the police when something happens.
• Hope for 2024 is to continue to build trust in each other to inspire the community's trust in
government
• Takeaway was process related to meeting efficiency and learning staff s interests and frustrations
are similar to council's.
• Hope for 2024 is for more robust financial reporting
• A lot of discussion today was around big rocks. Look forward to collaborating and focus on moving
the big rocks forward this year. It helps that some of the curtains have been pulled open such as
regarding the CEMP and financials; see the situation and deal with it.
• Takeaway is it's nice to see everyone talking in friendly and collaborative ways. Appreciate
councilmembers working with staff to make the City the best it can be. All the directors are
committed to collaboration and coordination and doing the best job for the City and citizens. The
City has a bright future moving forward, things can be fixed and it will be okay.
• CERT training is available through South County Fire beginning March 24.
• Appreciated today's discussions and the opportunity to hear from directors who are subject matter
experts. This year will be transformative due to the biannual budget, hope can focus on revenue.
There are aspects the council needs to consider and this a great start. Very hopeful for the coming
year
• Takeaway is a reminder that everyone is here for the Edmonds community. Looking forward to
better, healthier working relationships and more respect. Directors are here to support council in
making decisions; council should trust directors to know what they are doing.
• We are all here with an important purpose, to get a lot done. Hope for 2024 is not rush, but work
with a sense of urgency and get a lot of things done. Today's discussion illustrates everyone's
expertise is valued. Hopeful today's open dialogue will continue. If stay grounded around our
common purpose, we can get a lot done.
• If the vibes of today carry through for the remainder of the year, we will get a lot done.
• Excited about the prospect of more efficient meetings.
• We can all work together as illustrated today. Nice to see everyone in the same room, having a
conversation
• Excited about having a legislative calendar.
• Loved Steve DiJulio's presentation, learned some things and also reinforced some things. If we
follow that structure and honor civility and professional respect, we can get a lot done. With the
CEMP in mind, the financial situation is not an actual crisis. Important to work with urgency, take
advantage of opportunities and remember quality of life.
• Filled with hope due to the energy, collaboration and respect that took place today. Have
experienced it with councilmembers and directors. Have been meeting one-on-one with staff and
groups of staff, the universal truth is they love the City and many have worked for the City a long
time. In my experience, when things get hard, people either become survivalists or they come
together and fix it.. Edmonds has a very engaged residency that pays attention and the vast majority
are filled with hope and want to help.
ADJOURNMENT
With no further business, the council retreat was adjourned at 3:57 p.m.
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