2024-03-19 Council Special MinutesEDMONDS CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING
APPROVED MINUTES
March 19, 2024
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Mike Rosen, Mayor
Vivian Olson, Council President
Chris Eck, Councilmember
Will Chen, Councilmember
Neil Tibbott, Councilmember
Michelle Dotsch, Councilmember
Susan Paine, Councilmember
Jenna Nand, Councilmember
1. CALL TO ORDER/FLAG SALUTE
STAFF PRESENT
Frances Chapin, Arts & Culture Program Mgr.
Scott Passey, City Clerk
Jerrie Bevington, Camera Operator
The Edmonds City Council special meeting was called to order at 5:59 p.m. by Mayor Rosen in the Council
Chambers, 250 5th Avenue North, Edmonds, and virtually.
2. INTERVIEWS FOR APPOINTMENT TO A CITY BOARD OR COMMISSION
B&C CANDIDATE INTERVIEW — HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Councilmembers interviewed Doug Trost for appointment to the Historic Preservation Commission
(responses in italics).
Mayor Rosen invited Mr. Trost to share a little about his background. I'm a history teacher at Edmonds-
Woodway High School. I've lived in Edmonds for 20 years. I'm interested in seeing Edmonds' history
preserved and seeing everybody represented in all historical timeframes and ensuring everyone's voice is
heard. If we don't know where we came from, we don't know where we're going.
Councilmember Tibbott asked him to talk about the subject he teaches at Edmonds-Woodway High School
and how it might apply to the commission. I have been a teacher for 25 years. I teach IB History 11 which
is American History, World History Honors, and I have a degree in history and anthropology. My general
knowledge base will be important, being able to decern what is valuable and needs to be preserved as well
as the needs of modernity and progress and keeping things that cannot be replaced.
Councilmember Eck commented she was also a history major and has a child at Edmonds-Woodway High
School. She asked how he envisioned taking what he learned from the HPC to the classroom. I could apply
the commission's work in the classroom, share with the students how to preserve the local community.
Students often need volunteer hours; I've proposed to them in the past volunteering at the museum or local
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historical agencies. Students have suggested the idea of a walking tour using a smartphone to involve youth.
It will also model the idea of service to the community to students.
Councilmember Chen referred to his opening comments about having all voices represented and asked as
the demographics evolve and change in Edmonds, did he see a gap in representation in the current setting,
and if so, how did he plan to have voice heard and everybody represented. I believe there is a gap, but it
can be resolved. Given Edmonds' overwhelmingly homogeneous past, it's important to find linkages. For
example, former Senator Shin's involvement with the International District on Highway 99 to tell the story
ofpeoplefrom various backgrounds and ensure everyone is represented. It is important to ensure all voices
are heard and I will need to figure out how to go about it.
Councilmember Paine commented on the opportunity to explore historical aspects related to uses that may
not be preserved in architecture. For example, the genesis of auto dealerships on Highway 99 and Senator
Chinn's work on Highway 99, redlining and other historical aspects, not just the architecture, but the
cultural history. She was also interested in tribal uses of Lake Ballinger. Often as much can be learned by
what is no longer there versus what remains. Often it is related to having enough power to preserve and
other things get swept aside and no longer exist. Those are important discussions to have, identifying what
no longer exists and telling that story. It is the job of historians tell the story, analyze, interpret and come
to their own conclusions.
Councilmember Nand commented the City does a good job with historical and interpretive signs in the
downtown area and she wants to spread that to neighborhood business districts. That is primarily handled
by Frances Chapen in the economic development, but she welcomed his research or interest in that. She
asked if there were opportunities to identify historically significant trees and spaces relevant to indigenous
heritage. I am not very familiar with that, but it is a slim possibility those exist in Edmonds given so many
old growth forests no longer exist.
Council President Olson commented his background in history and anthropology will be enriching to the
HPC.
Councilmember Dotsch asked since he has lived in Edmonds a long time, did he have a particular historical
style he liked and/or a particular time in Edmonds' history that interested him. I don't have any particular
style, I tend to prefer things that are significant in the development, culture and background of Edmonds
andplaces that tell us where we've been so that is not lost. Ifind all times in history interesting, each has
a story and speaks to different people, from the rich history ofprohibition in Edmonds to Native American
heritage to the 1930-1960s and people who can help tell those stories.
Mayor Rosen advised the commission appointments are on tonight's Consent Agenda.
2. B&C CANDIDATE INTERVIEW — HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Councilmembers interviewed Karen Engelhart Brown for appointment to the Historic Preservation
Commission (responses in italics):
Mayor Rosen invited Ms. Brown to share a little about her background. I have a very mixed background
both educationally and culturally, mostly because I've lived many differentplaces. Edmonds is where Iplan
to stay. I have taught in the field of anthropology overseas where I learned the students' culture. I've been
fortunate to have the opportunity to learn about other cultures and the process gain a feeling of humility
for what we have here. Coming to Edmonds after living in northern California was a positive change,
although I miss being a curator of a museum based on the history of a small, rural county in northern
California whose history consists of the indigenous population which was wiped out by Asians and
European Americans, an attitude that filtered into the community. My goal was to change that; the first
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thing I did was change the exhibits and tone of the museum. It taught me that change can be good, very
difficult and very necessary, while not losing the continuity and connections of the history. The most difficult
part of balancing that was getting people interested in the past and to see how it affects their present and
use that knowledge to change the future. Most of the buildings in the community had been destroyed by fire
on multiple occasions, but enough were left to get people interested in how history affected them financially
and culturally. I was involved in gathering that information which was used to write a book. The HPC is
an advisory committee, not a policy making which is key. Continuity is important but is not possible without
being educated about the community. I view the role of the HPC as educational, gathering as much data
and information as possible. I do not have a lot of knowledge about Edmonds' history, but have the
advantage of my daughter having a business in a historic building in Edmonds.
Councilmember Paine was glad to see both candidates for the HPC have a cultural background. She
appreciated the work she has done in the past putting a museum back together again so it represents the
entire community. There may be an opportunity to partner with Write on the Sound to capture the history
of Edmonds. Edmonds also has a museum. I have not been involved with the local historical society yet.
Historical societies usually want to affect policy.
Councilmember Nand referred to the HPC ordinance and Section G Powers and Duties that includes
participate in, promote and conduct public information, educational interpretive programs pertaining to
historic resources. That sounded similar to the community outreach she did in northern California. She
asked if she had any ideas for the HPC related to community outreach. I don't know how active the
indigenous population is in Edmonds. One of my interests is the division between the history of the
downtown/bowl versus Highway 99. I'm interested in being involved in information gathering.
Councilmember Eck said she was impressed with her background and appreciated her willingness to bring
her talents and experience to the HPC. She liked what she said about keeping the indigenous history in
mind and sharing, educating, and providing information.
Mayor Rosen advised the commission appointments are on tonight's Consent Agenda.
3. B&C CANDIDATE INTERVIEW — ARTS COMMISSION
Councilmembers interviewed Ute Christian Freund for appointment to the Arts Commission (responses in
italics):
Mayor Rosen invited Ms. Freund share a little about her background. I've lived in Edmonds since 2004. In
2009 I was offered position at the Berlin University in Germany and returned to Edmonds in 2019. I was
considering retiring and doing a little private teaching but Covid impacted my ability to sing and to teach
singing. I'm just starting to teach again in Edmonds and building a studio with 6-8 students. My education
was originally in music and opera performing and music instruction. I became an opera soloist and met an
American and moved to San Francisco. After working in Switzerland, we returned to Washington. I enjoyed
my career on stage and like the combination of drama and music, but also enjoyed teaching in San
Francisco. I enjoyed the ten years I spent teaching music and drama to college students at the Berlin
University. When I lived in Edmonds between 2004 and 2009, I organized Christmas with the Classics
concerts and music for the Thursday night art walks. Since then, the arts have blossomed in Edmonds. I am
excited to offer my experience to the Arts Commission.
Recognizing her rich background, Councilmember Eck asked the main thing she hoped to gain from serving
on the Arts Commission. On an organizational education level, I would love to involve young artists in
projects. I come from the classical music field. I can imagine organizing concerts with young artists and
support existing artists.
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Councilmember Tibbott commented the council has discussed the need for more performing arts venues in
the City. He asked about venues in the City for smaller performances. The Graphite Arts Center is very
interested in having events, and there are spaces at the Edmonds Waterfront Center. Small groups such as
spring quartets often don't have many opportunities to perform.
Councilmember Chen thanked her for applying and contributing her talent, noting her background is
fascinating and the community is lucky to have her volunteer.
Councilmember Nand thanked her what she has done for the community in organizing art walks and local
education. She loved the idea of expanding music into private spaces as there are some areas of City that
do not have public venues spaces. She invited her to ask the council for assistance.
Councilmember Paine anticipated Ms. Freund would be excited about the other members of the Arts
Commission which include talented musicians, writers, artists, etc. She was excited to see art practitioners
like her volunteer on the Arts Commission. Often in places like Edmonds there are a lot of visual artists
and musicians, but sometimes they do not know each other. I would like to create a roster of musicians who
could accompany singers.
Councilmember Dotsch recognized her rich background and liked her background in education and
bringing different mediums together as well as her organizational skills.
Mayor Rosen advised the commission appointments are on tonight's Consent Agenda.
4. B&C CANDIDATE INTERVIEW — ARTS COMMISSION
Councilmembers interviewed Katie Leute for appointment to the Arts Commission (responses in italics):
Mayor Rosen invited Ms. Leute to share a little about her background. My background is in graphic design,
I have a Bachelor of Fine Arts in visual communications and design. I am a military veteran, I joined the
Marines Corp right out of high school, served four years and then went to college. I have a long, varied
background as most visual artists do. I started my career as a graphic designer working in an ad agency,
then started my own business and built the brand from the ground up and then sold the business. I currently
work as a creative director and marketing manager for a credit union based in Seattle. A lot of my career
has been threaded through with art and storytelling. I've done a lot of work with brand building, both with
other organizations and my own business. I saw an opportunity when my family moved to Edmonds four
years ago, the idea of what is Edmonds becoming, its identity as a city, being the first city in the state to
have a Creative District, and the excitement around arts and culture. I'm excited about being part of that,
contributing my background and experience and also learning and growing by interacting and
collaborating with others.
Councilmember Eck commented committing to volunteering on the Arts Commission can be enriching as
well as giving back to the community. Being able to effectively tell a story in a visual way is unique and
will be an asset to the Arts Commission.
Council President Olson expressed appreciation for her application which showed a lot about her abilities,
style and work.
Councilmember Paine asked what excited her most about the potential to work with the Arts Commission.
I'm excited to learn more about Edmonds. There are opportunities to find avenues where art can become
more a part of daily life in Edmonds. There is already a foundation of art in Edmonds including gorgeous
galleries and performance and event spaces. I'm interested in more avenues for art where people live their
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daily lives. That energy and momentum has already begun, and I want to be in a in position to shape and
nurture that toward fulfillment.
Councilmember Nand said she was excited about her background as a small business owner and the
business aspect of art because those are the type of businesses in the Creative District. Having someone
who understands that could enhance the recognition and regional pull of the Creative District. The
ordinance forming the Arts Commission states one of the powers of the Arts Commission is to engage in
long term cultural planning and implementation as well as review city plans for the purpose of integration
of arts elements into city planning including education, public finance, community services, etc. Do you
have any ideas you would like to share about that? My family moved to Edmonds in 2020 during the
pandemic, so we are just beginning to learning what Edmonds is about. I hear a lot about the bowl and
downtown Edmonds and am beginning to hear more about other neighborhoods and what community
identity means to them. It would be interesting to explore the idea of community identity and neighborhoods
whether that is events, showings, public art, or something that hasn't been thought of yet, to recognize what
makes the community unique and what identity means.
Councilmember Chen said he felt a sense of her artistic background from her application. He was especially
excited about her background in marketing. The Arts Commission and the arts industry has done a
tremendous job attracting tourists and promoting positive economic impact. How do you see you can
enhance that with your skills? I've talked informally about how arts and culture are interwoven with
economy and commerce, especially in a city like Edmonds where a lot ofpeople come from outside the area
to experience what the city has to offer. The foundation of good marketing is good storytelling, helping
people understand if Edmonds were a person, who they would be, and telling that story so it becomes
person/place%xperience that people want to get to know and come back to.
Mayor Rosen advised the commission appointments are on tonight's Consent Agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
With no further business, the Council meeting was adjourned at 6:51 p.m.
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