2024-04-09 Council Special MinutesEDMONDS CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES
APPROVED MINUTES
April 9, 2024
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Mike Rosen, Mayor
Vivian Olson, Council President
Will Chen, Councilmember
Susan Paine, Councilmember
Michelle Dotsch, Councilmember
Chris Eck, Councilmember
Jenna Nand, Councilmember
ELECTED OFFICIALS ABSENT
Neil Tibbott, Councilmember
1. CALL TO ORDER
STAFF PRESENT
Susan McLaughlin, Planning & Dev. Dir.
Jeff Levy, Senior Planner and Deputy Project Mgr.
Navyusha Pentakota, Planner
Jeff Taraday, City Attorney
Scott Passey, City Clerk
Jerrie Bevington, Camera Operator
The Edmonds City Council special meeting was called to order at 7:30 pm by Mayor Rosen in the Council
Chambers, 250 5th Avenue North, Edmonds, and virtually. The meeting was opened with the flag salute.
2. ROLL CALL
City Clerk Scott Passey called the roll. All elected officials were present with the exception of
Councilmember Tibbott.
Mayor Rosen announced there are technical problems with streaming via the City website. The public can
still participate via Zoom and the meeting video will be uploaded to the City's website tomorrow. Staff will
continue trying to resolve the problem throughout the meeting.
Mayor Rosen reviewed the time allotted to each agenda item: 30 minutes for agenda item 3.1 (presentation
and two rounds of council questions), and 10 minutes for agenda item 3.2 (presentation and council
questions, followed by agenda items 3.3 and 3.4.
3. COUNCIL BUSINESS
1. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN - GROWTH ALTERNATIVES
Planning & Development Director Susan McLaughlin introduced Senior Planner/Deputy Project Manager
Doug Levy, Planner Navyusha Pentakota, and the Project Manager at VIA Perkins Eastman. She reviewed:
• Planning in Washington State
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Under the GMA, OFM projects 20-year population
growth at the county level.
Vision 2050 distributes the growth to counties
through policies, and regional growth strategies.
Snohomish County distributes growth based
on Commerce and regional guidance.
They prepare the Buildable Lands Report and CPPs
(countywide planning policies)
Local jurisdictions plan for the county -adopted
2044 targets. Cities must comply with HB 1110,
1337 BE 1220, along with state, regional and county
Legislature.
What is a Comprehensive Plan?
o This is a policy document that outlines a long-term vision and provides direction for future
growth and development over the next 20 years
■ How and where will our city grow reflecting the needs of residents and businesses?
■ What kinds of housing and jobs?
■ How to invest in parks, transportation, public infrastructure, and social services?
■ How to meaningfully serve a diverse and growing community?
■ How to protect Edmonds' natural features?
■ How do we manage sustainable growth?
Comprehensive Plan Elements
o The comprehensive plan will
■ Provide goals, plans and
policies
■ Inform zoning and other
development regulations
■ Decide capital projects and
budget decision
• How did we find `Centers' and `Hubs'?
o Building Lands Report (BLR)
o Redevelopable Parcels
o Mixed -Use/ Multi -Family Land Use
o Along Transit Lines
o DT and Hwy 99 Activity Centers
o Overlay Critical Areas
o Isolate Remaining Clusters
Centers and Hubs
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• PSRC Displacement Risk Mapping
o Identifies what neighborhoods in the region are at higher risk of displacement
o Includes residents and businesses
o Majority of Edmonds in low risk
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• Edmonds Growth Targets
o 2044 — Meeting Growth Targets
Housing Units
Per the Growth Management Act: ;0000
Edmonds is projected to grow by 13,000 people over ,
the next twenty years 25000 / 14,000 f 9,000 ,
Edmonds currently has capacity for 2,500 jobs. oo ' 5,000 ±----,
Capacity for 500 jobs must be added
15000
Edmonds has 19,000 housing units and
5,000. It must increase unit capacity 112,000 or a ,.0000
total of 9,000
5000
0
Existing Unfts Current Required
Capacity Capacity
• House Bills Applied — Single family zones
• Increases middle housing in Requires allowing 2 accessory
single family residential areas dwelling units in all single-family
• At least two homes per lot zoning districts
• Four per lot if located within a
quarter -mile walking distance of
a major transit stop (Like SWIFT
BRT Stop or Amtrak station in
Edmonds)
• Four per lot if one of the homes
is affordable.
• Calculating Total Housing Need
• Requires cities to differentiate
between housing types, ties these
types to affordability levels
• Have sufficient capacity for each
housing type
(The capacity target by housing types is
provided by Snohomish County Housing
Requirements Report as per Dept. of
Commerce guidance)
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Current Census Population 42,853
Protected Growth by 2044' + 13,113
Initial Total Population Target 2044 = 55,966
Group Quarters Population 2044' - 297
Total Household Population 20"
= 55,669
Average House Size 2044*
+ 2.1096
Total Households 2044
= 26,388
Vacancy Rate 2044"
+ 6":
Total Housing Units Needed 2044
= 28,073
Housing Units (Excluding Seasonal Units) 2020""'
- 19,005
Net New Housing Units Needed 2020-2044
= 9,068
Existing Capacity""* *
4,946
Revised Remaining Units Required
= 4,122
Capacity Already Filled per 1337 and I110""
1,684
Revised Remaining Units Required
= 2,438
Buffer
+ —10%
TOTALS = —2,700
'2044 growth targets per countys a#ocation. W_i
Report Combined Appendices Table D-1 DraR
Initial Housing Growth Targets
"'Commerce guidance
—2020 Census data
"' Buildable Lands Report
• City Forum + Online Open House
o Citywide Forum General Feedback
■ Request to emphasize Citizen's Housing Commission recommendations
■ Need for clarification around where growth was proposed and how guaranteed it was to
occur
■ Confusion around 15 min city concept and specifically around land use designations within
that 15 min boundary.
■ Interest in curating neighborhood uses — grocery store, coffee shops, etc.
■ Encouraged walkable and bike friendly developments
■ Support of the Medical District expansion
■ Expressed concerns on proposed height above five stories
■ How will infrastructure, transportation & parking b e factored into decision making
■ Several environmental concerns including critical area and urban heat island effect
impacting denser areas
City Forum New Ideas
o Explore Hubs at
✓ 226th St. SW /15th & Edmonds Way intersection
✓ Church at 196th and 84th, east of North Bowl
✓ 76th & 205 intersection
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o Explore Hubs at
✓ 226th St. SW /15th & Edmonds Way intersection
✓ Church at 196th and 84th, east of North Bowl
Perrinville •
✓ 76th & 205 intersection
North Bowl
•
East Seaview
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o Make International District a "neighborhood hub"
Downtow` l
WaterfrontAct
with more focus on walkability and community
Center
benefits.
o Opportunity of creating the Medical District as a
"New Edmonds Uptown", making it a center for
community activities.
High—y 99
Subarea
o Focus growth centered around schools
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New Hub ideas
o Online Open House
■ Total Visitors: 1,561
■ Total pageviews: 5,207
■ Total survey respondents: 288
■ Alternatives and overall approach: 291 responses
■ Downtown Activity Center: 189 responses
■ Highway 99 Subarea: 243 response
■ Demographics: 243 responses
■ Community Comment Board: 190 responses
o Responses to online open house comments
■ Do you agree with the approach in Alternative A to put more density in Neighborhood
Centers while keeping changes minimal in Neighborhood Hubs?
- 25% yes
- 58% no
- 17% not sure
Do you agree with the approach in Alternative B to have density more evenly distributed
throughout the Neighborhood Centers and Hubs?
40% yes
45% no
15% not sure
Which alternative best aligns with comprehensive plan vision statement?
Alternative A: Focused Growth: 2 1 %
Alternative B: Distributed Growth: 37%
Not sure yet: 42%
Do growth alternatives meet the intent of the vision statement?
Total responses: 291
Positive
Neutral,
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Negative*
Improve access to the natural beauty of our Community:
70%
10'0
20%
Preserve Parks and Open Space.
Safe Streets: Design and manage roadways to prioritize the
59%
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27°�
safety of all users.
Promote Healthy Lifestyles: Emphasize mixed -use development
54%
12%
34%
within neighborhoods where residents can live, work and play.
Promote Climate Resiliency: Prioritize pedestrian -friendly
52%
15%
33%
streets and improve transit connectivity.
Support Thriving Arts Scene: Create opportunities for live -work
53%
23%
24%
in Arts District and Downtown.
Vibrant Diverse Neighborhoods: Equitable distribution of 43% 13% 44%
housing affordability levels.
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• Existing Policy Framework
o PSRC's Multi County Planning Policies
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Development Patterns Goal: The region creates healthy, walkable, compact, and equitable transit -
oriented communities that maintain unique character and local culture...
MPP-DP-1
Develop high -quality,
compact urban communities
throughout the region's
urban growth area that
impart a sense of place,
preserve local character,
provide for mixed uses and
choices in housing types, and
encourage walking, bicycling,
and transit use
MPP-DP-3
Enhance
existing neighborhoods
to provide a high degree
of connectivity in the
street network
to accommodate walking,
bicycling, and transit use, and
sufficient public spaces.
MPP-DP-22
Plan for densities that
maximize benefits of transit
investments in high -capacity
transit station areas that are
expected to attract
significant new population
or employment growth.
o Snohomish County Planning Policies
Goal: The cities, towns, and Snohomish County will provide livable communities for all residents by directing growth into
designated urban areas to create urban places that are equitable, walkable, compact, and transit oriented, preserve and
create open space, and protect rural and resource lands.
DP-16
Jurisdictions should encourage
the use of innovative
development standards, design
guidelines, regulatory
incentives, and applicable low
impact development measures
to provide compact, high -
quality communities.
DP-36
Jurisdictions should develop
high quality, compact urban
communities that impart a
sense of place, preserve local
character, provide for mixed
uses and choices in housing
types, and encourage walking,
bicycling, and transit use.
o Existing Comprehensive plan policy direction
Land Use Element: Commercial Land Use Goals & Policies
A.3
B.3
B.4
The proliferation of
Create mixed -use,
Improve
strip commercial
walkable, compact,
connectedness for
areas along Edmonds
economically viable,
pedestrian and
streets and highways
attractive, and
bicycle users in a
and the development
community -friendly.
transit -friendly
of commercial uses
environment.
poorly related to
surrounding land
uses should be
strongly discouraged.
o Climate Action plan
303. 962 MT CO,
l2 Mt CO:e per capita
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e Defining Centers & Hubs
DP-10
...... promote well -designed and
transit -oriented developments
that enhance economic
development opportunities for
all residents, address
environmental goals, and reduce
vehicle miles traveled and
greenhouse gas emissions from
transportation.
The most effective steps the City can take are:
C.3
Permit uses in
neighborhood
commercial areas
that are intended to
serve the local
neighborhood.
Mixed -use
development should
be encouraged within
neighborhood
commercial areas.
(#3) to support mixed use and transit -oriented
development in neighborhood commercial centers"
- A Call to Action: Edmonds Climate Action Plan
2024
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o Centers
1.
Redevelopment to meet community
goals + enhance public realm
2.
Has retail and other commercial
businesses
3.
Moderate scale multifamily
residential land uses
4.
Increase maximum heights to 4 floors
by right, and possible 2 floors with
incentives in some select areas (5
floors max)
5.
Good multimodal access with existing
transit service
o Hubs
1.
Redevelopment to meet community
goals + enhance public realm.
2.
Smaller scale. Includes some mixed
land uses, e.g. retail or commercial
businesses
3.
Low rise apartments or missing
middle housing.
4.
Increase maximum heights to 3 floors
by right, and possible incentives in
some select parcels (4 floors max)
5.
Good multimodal access with existing
transit service.
• Draft Conceptual Alternatives
Downtown/
Watertront
Activity
center Five Corners
Me ica District
Westgate Highway 99
Subarea
Firdale Village(
Perrinville
North Bowl East Seaview
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Watertront
Activity
Center
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Firdale North,
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Neighborhood Residential
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Middle housing: Duplexes. Triplexes. ADUs townhomes,
quadplexes (only with one affordable unit), stacked flats,
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• How do the alternatives differ
Areas of Change Alt A: Focused Growth Alt g: Distributed Growth
No of Units No of Units
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Medical Center Expansion 1000-1200 1850-2000
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Planning Board Chair Jeremy Mitchell introduced Vice Chair Lauren Golembiewski. He emphasized all
planning board members are Edmonds residents and represent a diverse set of opinions with an overall goal
of representing residents and the City. The existing conditions analysis illustrates the City's population is
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slightly under 43,000 which represents 43,000 different opinions. Two of those 43,000 are his 4 year old
and 6 year old; tonight his daughter asked him to put her bed on the roof so she could sleep under the stars.
He listened and thought that would be great, but probably not a good idea or sustainable for her own health.
In considering the opinions of 43,000 residents, key themes need to be identified and those need to be
sustainable, concrete ideas that get the City to a point of sustainability for 20-50 years.
Chair Mitchell explained the planning board first reviewed the draft growth alternatives on February 14;
the background and evolution of that decision is in the planning board's memorandum in the council packet.
The commission's deep dive into the themes regarding how comprehensive plan goals were established
occurred at the joint meeting with the economic development commission (EDC) on November 8, 2023
where the public engagement such as Porchfest, popsicles in the park, etc. was described which identified
themes. Those themes were then extrapolated into goals which were used to create criteria to drive
alternatives. Following the neighborhood public engagement in December 2023, the planning board was
provided the first draft alternatives on February 14, 2024.
Chair Mitchell explained, for the most part, the planning board understood why centers and hubs were
selected and the initial feedback at that meeting and the March 6 meeting was commissioners would have
liked to have seen more variability between the two growth alternatives such as expanding into corridors,
should the bookends be larger to provide more flexibility. After the open house and gaining some public
feedback, he felt a lot of people were against the alternatives, some were for the alternatives and a lot of
people were indifferent. Again, there are 43,000 opinions in identifying a good path forward for the City.
Given the time constraints, the planning board supported Alternative A, focused growth, as the high
intensity bookend and the revised Alternative B as the low intensity alternative. That follows good City
planning, provides a degree of flexibility related to building heights, and from a long range planning
perspective, gives the City the opportunity to build on those hubs in the future and to place -make. The
planning board's vote was 4-2 in favor of Alternative A and 5-1 on Alternative B.
Ms. McLaughlin recommended reviewing the planning board minutes to learn about their robust discussion.
The EDC has been working on economic development goals in partnership with the planning board and
staff and leveraging the hubs and centers strategy and seeing value in centering growth in that way.
Ms. McLaughlin continued:
• FEIS and Final Plan
o EIS is not a decision document
o Final EIS includes all public comments
o EIS discloses potential environmental impacts that help city council making an informed
decision
o The Final EIS may or may not contain the preferred alternative
o The City's comprehensive plan can be adopted after the Final EIS is issued
o The final plan will only increase zoning to accommodate the required number of units, but we
the EIS studies more so when environmental impacts are too great in one area, we have others
to fall back on
• Finalizing the Alternatives for the Draft EIS
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o The EIS team needs bookends of
alternatives to analyze
o April 13 "Pens down"
■ The EIS team will begin the analysis of
environmental impacts
■ Any changes may result in additional
analysis, delays in schedule and budget
increases
o August 22 DEIS issued by the City with a
discussion of potential impacts for the No
Action Alternative and Two Action
Alternatives
o The Preferred Alternative results from the
comments of DEIS
"Pens Down"
For Growth Alts"
April 13-20 Transportation Final Alternatives
�WMTJI� Env. analysis
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I May - mid June
Alternatives assessed for DEIS
I by Herrera
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I Mid June -July
City to review Env. analysis
DIFIRRIRMDEIS Issued
I Aug 22 - Sept 20
DEIS Comment period
•� DEIS Public Hearing
Notice issued 10 days prior
Final EIS in Nov with the final plan.
Preferred Alternative based on comments.
Mayor Rosen advised council questions would be in a round robin format where each councilmember asks
a question.
Councilmember Eck thanked the planning board for their leadership, recognizing the amount of work that
went into this effort and the community engagement over the past few months. She relayed she has heard
there is a perception that people aren't being listened to. She asked staff to recap their comments about the
critical area at Firdale north and Perrinville and how the buffer in the numbers provides flexibility to protect
critical areas. Ms. McLaughlin explained Firdale north is in the CARA; it is only a few parcels, but it met
the criteria when considering centers and hubs (existing development, impervious surface, previous used
as a gas station) and Perrinville in its existing location and development and allowing the height increase.
The planning board discussed whether to pull those areas now, but determined allowing that level of
environmental analysis will be helpful to understand whether development will be a negative factor;
redevelopment in Firdale north with the potential for cleanup may be a positive. Yielding information like
that via an EIS may help elected officials make a decision; studying it is not a foregone conclusion and the
buffer allows those areas to be eliminated and not impact compliance with meeting the numbers.
Councilmember Chen thanked staff and the planning board for the countless hours they have spent and their
hard work, especially the volunteers. He referred to the calculation of housing units, the growth target of
9,000 units, observing that considers the 5,000 banked capacity. He asked why the 5,000 units was not
6,000 units. Ms. McLaughlin responded the 5,000 units are allowed today; if the City did absolutely nothing
and added up what is allowed by the zoning, the result is 5,000 units. For example, the Highway 99 subarea
has about 4,100 units. Councilmember Chen observed that included the 2017 Highway 99 subarea upzone.
Ms. McLaughlin agreed it did. Councilmember Chen asked if it included the Landmark project. Ms.
McLaughlin answered it does because it is zone capacity. Landmark is a project, but that is different from
the zoning that allows it to happen.
Council President Olson commented there seemed to be preference in the community for the more
distributed option. She asked if there two distributed models could be used as bookends. Ms. McLaughlin
recommended reviewing the planning board's conversation. Even though it is a distributed model, there is
still height gain in neighborhood centers. In Alt B, growth is distributed, but it may be more broadly
distributed in the same hub or center. Mr. Levy explained the hubs in Alt B potentially encompass more
parcels in an expanded area, versus Alt A in which the hubs are smaller and more localized.
Council President Olson asked if there would be value in considering the environmental impact of Alt B
and another more distributed option to allow selection of a more preferable distributed approach which
seemed to be what the community preferred. Ms. McLaughlin said 288 is not a great response to a survey
and she cautioned against generalizing what the community prefers based on that response. At the City
forum, a lot of people were nervous about five stories and in looking at that option and due to the buffers
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and other considerations, staff believes it may ultimately be possible to lower the heights across both
alternatives. Just because it is being studied in the EIS, it actually affords the most flexibility at the end of
the day to minimize growth in the neighborhood centers. That won't be known without studying the most
impactful versus the least impactful.
Council President Olson asked if staff hasn't seen or no one else had done an EIS with two different
approaches to a distributed approach. Ms. McLaughlin answered in keeping with the layers that she
reviewed at the beginning, meeting the criteria of being in existing areas of impervious surface, minimizing
tree canopy loss, avoiding critical areas, located on transit lines, there is a good planning approach that
should be considered in following all the regional, county and local policies. Staff believes neighborhood
centers is a good approach from a planning perspective and at the end of the day, it may be possible to
reduce five stories to four stories to address residents' concern.
Councilmember Dotsch relayed her understanding that the goal was to have realistic and distinct bookends;
however, a lot of the parcels are similar in Alt A and B. If the areas of Firdale north which is in the CARA,
north bowl which is below steep slopes, and Perrinville where there are issues with the creek and damage
to the watershed are taken away, there is limited diversity. She recognized the growth is in the business
districts and asked if consideration was given to areas beyond the business districts. Ms. McLaughlin
answered due to the criteria and following good planning policies, the approach was to look at centers and
hubs and create two options. The team believes they are distinct and different which the pie charts illustrate.
If council decides tonight to take Perrinville out, that can be done due to the buffer. Staff is here for council
feedback and can make adjustments to the alternatives in real time and still meet the April 13 deadline.
Perrinville could also be removed once the environmental analysis is complete.
Councilmember Paine thanked staff and the planning board for the hours spent on this. She asked about the
components of the EIS and analysis that will help with decision making for selecting alternatives and how
that will provide information for the ultimate decision making. She wanted to keep it as broad as possible
relaying she heard over the past year that having a good, citywide EIS would inform decision making for
years. Ms. McLaughlin displayed and reviewed:
• What is in an EIS?
o The DEIS is an analysis that contains:
■ Information about the alternatives
■ Potential impacts
■ Mitigation
o This information helps decision makers choose how to do the project
o The FEIS may contain the preferred alternative and will contain responses to all comments on
the Draft EIS
o The City's comprehensive plan can be adopted after the Final EIS is issued
o The EIS provides data and research to the decision markers. It is not the final decision for the
comprehensive plan, which is adopted by city council
Councilmember Paine asked if the EIS considers displacement. Ms. McLaughlin answered displacement is
policy based and not an EIS consideration.
Councilmember Nand complimented the professionalism and work done by staff and the planning board.
With regard to the draft existing conditions memo, specifically the discussion about housing displacement
risk in Figure 9, it seems the highest displacement risk is around the Highway 99 corridor. There is also a
very sensitive population that is lower economic scale, more young families and more ethnic diversity. She
acknowledged this was not addressed in the EIS but was curious about the planning department and
planning board's decision under HB 1110 about where to allocate the 25% reserve in the 75/25 split related
to which parcels are protected from upzoning. The experience in Seattle has been brutal in neighborhoods
like the Highway 99 International business district in that entire ethnic communities were wiped off the
map due to Seattle's blanket upzoning. She asked staff to comment on that and how incorporating the 75/25
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split can be incorporated, possibly undoing some of the CG upzoning and seeking to protect lower property
value parcels where displacement is more likely. Ms. McLaughlin asked for clarification regarding
Councilmember Nand's reference to the 75/25 split.
Councilmember Nand explained she was referencing the 75/25 split in HB 1110. Ms. McLaughlin answered
the team was very cognizant about how they treated the Highway 99 subarea in considering the housing
targets, wanting to be authentic in addressing the community's concern with Highway 99 where the vast
majority of the City's density is located. The growth alternatives do not add any additional units to Highway
99 and in fact the buffer anticipates to some degree adjusting the transition zone. The reason that doesn't
have to be studied in the EIS is because it lessens an impact that was already anticipated through existing
zone capacity. The most bang for the buck with regard to displacement strategies will come when
developing housing policy such as tenant protections, business protections, etc. She looked forward to the
discussions about housing policy; this effort protects units in the Highway 99 for the purpose of more
equitable distribution elsewhere and displacement risk will be considered later in the plan.
Mayor Rosen observed there is 90 minutes of content on the agenda for 3 more items and 60 minutes
remaining in the meeting. Including people in council chambers and online, there are 100 people who may
want to provide comment. He asked if councilmembers wanted to do another round of questions or move
to the next agenda item. It was the consensus of council to move to the next agenda item.
2. OTHER POSSIBLE GROWTH ALTERNATIVES FOR COUNCIL DELIBERATION
Mayor Rosen advised this item is presentation of a white paper by Councilmember Dotsch followed by
council questions.
Councilmember Dotsch acknowledged the good work done by Ms. McLaughlin, her team, the consultant
group and the planning board. She also thanked and was extremely grateful for the public participation and
feedback so far. The decision on the bookends for the DEIS evaluation is critical to this 20-year planning
opportunity to create options for council to consider later this summer. She was well aware of the state -
mandated changes that must be included; the white paper includes all the housing bills and population
growth numbers. The reason she included the white paper for consideration as bookends at this point in the
process is, 1) expanding the bookends to allow for a thorough DEIS analysis inclusive of all the public
input received over the past two years along with the Edmonds housing commission recommendations, 2)
provide a wider range of alternative bookends to allow a mix and match after the DEIS analysis of merits
and impacts, and 3) ensure the impacts on the environment and infrastructure costs are fully revealed for
final council decision making. This includes placing growth where there are current resources.
Councilmember Dotsch continued, the proposed focused and distributed alternative bookends are inclusive
of most of the consultant and planning board narrower bookend alternatives. This proposal is by no means
discounting or inconsiderate of their good work. It is meant to broaden the bookends further so the council
can be provided as much financial wiggle room, especially if the current narrower bookends leave the City
with high unfunded infrastructure costs and/or high environment mitigation impacts and costs. Land use
decisions in Edmonds are critical to get right and she was very excited about the opportunities to be
inclusive of wider bookend alternatives with an exciting new Medical Town Center option to stretch out
the two current options to bring about a full tool belt of options and give council full information on the
potential environmental and infrastructure costs. She supported placing growth where current resources
exist to reduce future costs while Edmonds recovers from the financial crisis it finds itself in now.
Councilmember Dotsch explained her proposal is two wider bookends alternatives. The distributed
alternative will distribute growth along three state highway and major arterials including business districts
and churches where the following resources currently exist: sidewalks, schools, parks, commercial
businesses and services that create a sense of place, upzone large church parcels from single family to
multifamily, and make modest increases in density or extent in four business districts. Firdale neighbors
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were interested in something exciting and new there. One of the opportunity could be up to five stories to
allow for a mix of uses with services. Five Corner residents do not want more than five stories which this
alternative accommodates. Westgate district land uses and heights are unchanged, but the extent could be
increased for a few parcels. Church parcels are an opportunity; the housing commission identified
opportunities for cottage housing on larger parcels. Heights on corridors with transit such as SR-104,
Highway 524/196tt', 212', 244t'', 84' north of Esperance to Five Corners and 76t' would increase from two-
story multifamily to three story multifamily.
Councilmember Dotsch explained the second alternative, a focused growth alternative, would focus growth
in business centers and new Uptown Town Center based on the council's strategic decision in 2017 to site
planned growth along Highway 99. There is an overlay around the Medical District of 90 feet which would
allow for 2,000 units. It is adjacent to a huge job center, has a park and ride, four nearby schools and the
new Orange Swift line is blocks away. There are several transportation options such as bike lanes and the
ability to walk to work, a grocery store, etc. The borders are extended slightly to allow downzoning going
out from the center back to 35 feet. This includes 228t' south, 208t' north near College Place, east -west
Highway 99 and up to 84' which will link into Five Corners. The allowance for height, transit and density
would allow a reduction in heights in some areas on Highway 99 where a height reduction from 75 feet to
55 feet such as the International District. Five Corners would remain at three stories. Growth in the business
centers would be the same as the first alternative. She was passionate about neighborhood centers in
Edmonds. When her office was in Shoreline, all the density was near commercial and Shoreline ended up
losing commercial, businesses and jobs in those areas. The little hubs in Edmonds are what make Edmonds
special; if they end up being housing first, a lot of the businesses will have less opportunity.
Councilmember Eck asked Councilmember Dotsch to explain her remark about housing first, advising she
was familiar with that term from the non-profit human services world and wondered if that was what
Councilmember Dotsch was referring to. Councilmember Dotsch answered that was not her intent, it was
more about the massing of housing versus businesses and services.
Councilmember Chen expressed appreciation for Councilmember Dotsch proposing these alternative
options. In looking at the area she described for growth, it is 228t'' east of Highway 99, the Medical District
where there would be another 2,000 units. Highway 99 already has the capacity for 5,000 units.
Councilmember Dotsch's proposal would concentrate 7,000 units in one area which seemed like
concentrated growth rather than distributed growth. Councilmember Dotsch responded the growth would
be concentrated in a much smaller area. The idea is higher heights in the hospital overlay would allow
downsizing on Highway 99 so there is not the canyon effect of 75-foot building like in Shoreline. One of
the goals was to reduce density along Highway 99 and have higher heights where services and transit
already exist in a more concentrated manner instead of 75-foot building all along Highway 99. The proposal
is also to preserve groceries and services on Highway 99 so people have options. Councilmember Chen
observed the proposal would be to reduce Highway 99 from 75 feet to 55 feet and slide the growth into the
Medical District. The Medical District will get the density with ambulances going up and down and schools,
etc. He did not see that as distributed growth and instead saw it as centralized growth.
Council President Olson observed churches were included in Councilmember Dotsch's proposal, but they
were not included in staff's alternative. She read in the packet that the BLR suggested not doing that and
the guidance from Department of Commerce was not to do that. There is case study/history in Edmonds
where churches have subdivided and sold off portions of their land which provides the basis, knowledge
and expectation that churches may be an opportunity for growth so she was pleased to see it in the
alternatives Councilmember Dotsch provided. Mr. Levy relayed staff s understanding in working with the
consultant that tax exempt parcels cannot be counted toward the growth alternatives. If churches voluntarily
were to become not tax exempt, they could be included, but in their current condition, only taxable parcels
were considered toward the growth. Council President Olson asked if that was in the guidelines or was it
law. Mr. Levy believed it was in the guidelines. Council President Olson recommended pushing back on
that if there is an expectation that it might happen.
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Councilmember Paine said she had never heard of adding or people being comfortable with heights greater
than five stories. She asked where Councilmember Dotsch got that information as well as the information
that it would be challenging for businesses to thrive in neighborhood commercial districts. Councilmember
Dotsch answered Firdale was asking for potentially up to five stories which could be an opportunity; the
proposal is not up to five stories in all business centers like in staff s proposal. Councilmember Paine asked
about the Medical District. Councilmember Dotsch explained the Medical District overlay currently allows
90 feet and there is already multifamily in that area. She corrected Councilmember Chen that the proposal
with the Uptown Town Center was focused distribution. Housing policies that focus on business districts
and incentivize housing require businesses to fit underneath mixed use or there are fewer options available
for services. The variety of heights, options and open space on Highway 99 can be built in.
Councilmember Nand said although she did not agree with a lot of the options Councilmember Dotsch
proposed, she appreciated her work. Like Councilmember Chen, she had concerns about putting additional
housing units on Highway 99 when there is already unused zone capacity for 4,100 units. She is a huge fan
of mixed use but wanted density distributed away from the overburdened Highway 99 subarea. She would
be in favor of putting multifamily that does not have any green space adjacent or close to park areas.
Mayor Rosen requested Councilmember Nand ask a question. Councilmember Nand said she found the
format restrictive. She requested she be allowed time equivalent to other councilmembers to provide
feedback. Mayor Rosen advised the format was for councilmembers to ask questions. Following audience
comment, the remainder of the meeting is entirely dedicated to council discussion. Councilmember Nand
said she felt singled out when everyone else was able to make their comments and questions and she was
being shut off so she will turn off her mike. Mayor Rosen said he stopped other councilmembers who
deterred from questions.
3. AUDIENCE COMMENTS ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN - GROWTH ALTERNATIVES
Mayor Rosen reminded comments are limited to the growth alternatives.
Patti Whitmarsh, Edmonds, expressed support for Councilmember Dotsch's work and asked the council
to adopt it for the DEIS. Councilmember Dotsch's framework is far superior to the two DEIS alternatives
by Director McLaughlin and the consultants despite the very impressive presentation, number of staff and
the PowerPoint quality. As a resident of Edmonds for the past 32 years, she has seen Edmonds become
more infiltrated with the type of lifestyle and growth that exists in Seattle. Recently a friend said let's not
Ballard-ize Edmonds. Staffs proposal appears to adopt the plan seen in Ballard and Seattle. She did not
support the high density proposals or any other growth in Edmonds as it will result in losing the charm and
beauty of Edmonds that everyone loves. She requested the council reread Councilmember Dotsch's white
paper and consider it.
Robin Wright, Edmonds, was happy another alternative was finally presented because throughout this
entire process, the city has only presented two. She compared it to giving a small child two choices, neither
of which the child wants, but the adult wants both. She was in favor of concentrating new growth in one
area, on Highway 99 because there needs to be critical mass in terms of population and space to justify the
expense of amenities and infrastructure improvements. Highway 99 has the space to accommodate housing
and amenities. If density is distributed across the city in small pockets, it is not only cost prohibitive to add
amenities for a relative small number of residents, there isn't the space to do it so existing amenities and
infrastructure are overwhelmed, degrading the lifestyle for current and new residents, and promoting
equality but not in a good way. Highway 99 is next to light rail, a huge asset that should be leveraged. It is
irrational to intentionally place people who will use light rail further away from it than necessary; a few
miles adds up to many wasted minutes during rush hour and releases unnecessary carbon into the
atmosphere. Highway 99 is close to the Interurban Trail which provides safe biking, something the city has
been trying to retrofit on the streets without success. Highway 99 resident have said they feel overlooked
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by the city and that they don't get their fair share of city resources. This is an opportunity to build up the
area and make it somewhere people will be proud to live; it doesn't have to look like Shoreline or
Lynnwood. For example, Totem Lake has some of the elements she liked, it is next to Evergreen Hospital,
located in a former mini -mall, and in addition to housing has a Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, auto parts store,
Ross, pet store, bank, pizza, and Nordstrom Rack. Councilmember Dotsch's proposal is the better choice
in her view. She would like exclude Five Corners from the bookends and in order to preserve the beloved,
authentic neighborhood center, she did not want it overdeveloped.
Joe Scordino, Edmonds, a 44 year resident of Edmonds, said as a walker, he has walked much of Edmonds
and in many people's backyards, looking at their streams. He lived on Highway 99 for 3 months in a motel
with four kids when he first moved to Edmonds because the house he purchased was delayed which gave
him a good feel of what it's like to live on Highway 99 as well as living in the rest of Edmonds. He wants
to preserve Edmonds as he knows it. The council's discussions of the alternatives are missing one aspect,
the SEPA guidance says DEIS is supposed to look at the merits and impacts. With regard to the comments
about the merits of an alternative, rather than council saying they do not want more density on Highway
99, let the document describe and analyze the merits and impacts and after the DEIS, pick and choose how
to structure the growth alternative. Trying to narrow it now to just the hubs and centers is the wrong
approach, it needs to be broader. Relative to Council President Olson's comment about churches, those
properties should be included and when the homework is done, the DEIS can say Department of Commerce
does not allow them to be counted. He urged against using buffers and to stick with a number so all the
alternatives are judged based on the number that has to be achieved and do the mix and matching after the
process. It is bad governance to cut this off now; he preferred to set the bookends wide so council has all
the information in front of them.
Joan Longstaff, Edmonds, said she started in real estate in 1971 in Seattle so she is very familiar with
what happened in Shoreline. She opened her residential real estate brokerage in Edmonds and purchased
the historic house at 524 Main. She has been very involved with the Chamber of Commerce and all the
issues with the business community. This is a fantastic study; she served on the 2020 commission that met
for over a year. Churches are selling off their land and they understand the need for housing, for example
the Lutheran church just off Highway 99. She thanked the council for what they are doing and for the
community input.
Kim Riddell, Edmonds, a resident and homeowner in 5 Corners for 32 years, said she canvassed her
neighborhood and got 80 signatures to provide input into this plan. She echoed comments made by
Councilmember Dotsch to look beyond Alternatives A and B. She proposed eliminating the density
footprint centered around 5 Corners for the following reasons: there is no room in the roundabout which is
a confluence of five major arterials in one small area, it mixes cars and pedestrians which is not a safe
situation, most residents already live within 15 minutes of transit, and she preferred a model where density
is dispersed away from 5 Corners which will be safer for kids to walk to/from school. The residents of 5
Corners are very concerned about the businesses at 5 Corners being displaced and recommend development
take place around 5 Corners but not in it. There is precedence in other communities who have developed
using this model, Redmond in particular. She recommended considering the large church lot on 86t' Place
and 220' which is on a transit route along with the three alternatives.
Jerry Whitmarsh, Edmonds, a resident of the area for almost 35 years, said it seems like the city is being
thrown into a crazy race and rules are being made up at it goes. With the city's budget shortfall,
infrastructure needs, crazy mandates and the influx of people forced on the city, he advocated for
Councilmember Dotsch's white paper, at least the fluidity and more comprehensive nature of her proposals.
The EIS is a huge driver and approving things before the EIS is complete is insanity.
Charlie Chapin, the hospital administrator, representing Dr. Tripp who owns the property at 8401 Main
Street, BARC (Bridge Animal Referral Center), expressed appreciation for Ms. Riddell dropping off
information at their property regarding the process and Councilmember Dotsch's approach. They agree
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with all the comments that have been made about taking 5 Corners off and looking at Councilmember
Dotsch's proposal.
Mario Rossi, Edmonds, a resident of Edmonds for more than 20 years, said he would like to keep Edmonds
as it is because that is what attracted him and others to Edmonds. He has worked primarily in engineering
and marketing where there is a saying, garbage in garbage out. The 13,000 came from some bureaucrat
somewhere and apparently no one questioned it. He questioned the origin of that number as it represents
much higher growth than historic growth in Edmonds. He recommended the council investigate that
number, fearing if the barn door is open to developers, Edmonds will become another Seattle which no one
wants.
Mackey Guenther, Edmonds, a 23 year Edmonds resident, said as a young man, he may not know
anything but knows three things for sure, his parents raised him in Edmonds, he is building a life in
Edmonds, and if things go as planned he will probably be around for more of Edmonds' future than most
of the people in the room. He was intrigued by the alternatives and the alternative options circulated to
council and the community as well as by the claim the city can find a financial resilient way to accommodate
growth. Mayor Rosen already did a great job outlining the basis for the city's financial woes; just in the last
five years there is a street maintenance deficit of about $5 million. He displayed a map entitled Sidewalks,
commenting the best place to build homes is where there are already sidewalks and drew a circle around
the area with the most sidewalks. He displayed a second map of public facilities owned by the city and
community buildings that serve community organizational needs and support the social vibrancy of the city.
He drew a circle around the area with those facilities, commenting that is where new homes should be built
to allow people to access community services. He displayed a third map that illustrated the land market
value per square foot in Edmonds, explaining it started with land market value of $16/square foot and
getting closer to the center of Edmonds, it is $624/square foot which illustrates where people want to live
in Edmonds. In America, markets are used to distribute scarce resources so everyone can get their needs
met to the extent possible. He drew a circle on the third map about where new homes should go. He
summarized the circled areas are the same on all three maps.
Derrick Willis, Edmonds, a 16 year resident of Edmonds, said Edmonds is the greatest neighborhood he
has seen in Washington and did not want to see it changed. Alternatives A and B would destroy what makes
Edmonds special, three story homes in the bowl would result in mansions instead of affordable housing. If
the intent is affordable infrastructure, it should be put where infrastructure, light rail bus lines, etc. already
exists. He urged the council not to destroy what makes Edmonds special as that would be self-defeating.
He supported Councilmember Dotsch's white paper over Alternatives A and B.
Janelle Cass, Edmonds, a long-time Edmonds residents, engineer and NEPA practitioner for many years
for large federal projects, dittoed what Joe Scordino said in terms of making sure the DEIS includes a wide
range of alternatives so the impacts can be considered. She recommended including Councilmember
Dotsch's proposal because if not, it won't be analyzed in the DEIS. She recommended the DEIS be done
based on strong foundational statistics and numbers and to question with boldness the foundation of the
assumptions like they were fighting for Edmonds and the people they represent. For example, the
assumption related to adding 13,000 more people which equates to 9,000 units puts the city at 1.44 humans
per housing unit when the existing 43,000 people and 19,000 homes are at 2.25 humans per unit. She
questioned making a change in the number of people per unit in the future. She recalled hearing as people
age, they will live by themselves because their partner/spouse has passed. She argued that often as people
age, they move in with their family. In her case, her mother lives with her as well as her college age student,
5 people per housing unit. She urged the council to question the numbers provided to them as decision
makers and use it as an opportunity to have an accurate analysis of how much growth needs to occur.
Sam Bryan, Edmonds, said while he understood the reasoning for the planning board's recommendation,
he questioned why their bookends include ranges no one seems to wants, 4-story apartments. Most people
think 4 stories is already too high, especially in 5 Corners as he learned when walking in the neighborhood
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with Kim Riddell and talking with over 100 people. What underpinned their conversations was anything
above 3 stories would not be compatible with the neighborhood and would undermine what people value
most about 5 Corners. There was no interest in creating an urban center anchored by these large apartments.
A lot of people felt increasing density through 3-story building would be okay. Five Corners already has 3-
story buildings and they blend and contribute to shaping the charm of the neighborhood. He requested the
council to be mindful and preserve this aspect of 5 Corners so current and future neighborhood can
experience it. He also recommended narrowing the A and B bookends to eliminate these unpopular opinions
and start molding a preferred alternative especially in terms of building heights. At the last planning board
meeting someone said it is possible to keep neighborhoods quaint with 5-story buildings and 5 Corners was
used as an example of why 5 stories should be kept in the proposal which is completely orthogonal to what
5 Corners residents have expressed. Given the city has overestimated its growth targets by about 150%,
unless there is a very strong belief that something will wipe out a large chunk of the buffer, on behalf of 5
Corners he asked the council to narrow the A and B bookends now if they intend to move them forward or
consider more parcel diversity in the environmental analysis such as Councilmember Dotsch recommended.
Both those things will build into a preferred alternative that not only meets the state's mandates but also
addresses the community's concerns with building heights.
Erica Miner, Edmonds, a resident of the 5 Corners neighborhood for 8 years, and visitor to 5 Corners for
the past 18 years, respectfully maintained that this unique neighborhood is not the proper location for high
density development. Edmonds is mandated by the state to increase its density and to quote Mayor Rosen,
make choices about where the density goes. However, fulfilling the legislation on Washington housing laws
does not mean high density housing should be built in areas with no infrastructure to support it. The
following questions address her deep concerns with regard to the 5 Corners neighborhood, 1) can the city
maintain the character and unique atmosphere of Edmonds, preserve and enhance Edmonds' uniqueness
while tearing apart the cozy 5 Corners neighborhood and its thriving small businesses? 2) is building a
multi -story structure higher than those in downtown Edmonds the definition of "growing mindfully?" 3)
can the city guarantee the safety of school children walking and bicycling to and from Chase Lake
Elementary and Edmonds-Woodway High School during the inevitable heavy construction at 5 Corners?
4) traffic problems in densely populated areas are already tremendous; can small 2-lane streets such as 84'
Avenue and 212 Street accommodate the kind of traffic these high density building would create? 5) has
the issue of 5 Corners rainwater runoff funneling into Yost Park and the resultant potential for any new
high density construction adversely affecting the ecology of the park been properly addressed? In her mind
the above questions form a compelling argument against development in 5 Corners.
Jim Ogonowski, Edmonds, said in the end, what everyone is looking for is expanding the options to be
considered in the DEIS. The two alternatives proposed by staff are in essence one in the same; both are
centers and hubs centric. To adequately bound the problem, there needs to be something outside this
paradigm, otherwise it leads to a predetermined outcome. Including concept that is not centers and hubs
centric will open the solution space from which to choose once the environmental impacts are known. Not
doing so will limit options at the end of the year. He supported including an option that was not centers and
hubs focused, something similar to what Councilmember Dotsch has proposed rather than just one concept
that is centers and hubs focused.
Deborah Arthur, Edmonds, a 31-year homeowner in the 5 Corners area of Edmonds, said she liked
Councilmember Dotsch's plan and loved Mackey Guenther's presentation and predicted he will be mayor
of Edmonds someday. Distributing housing throughout Edmonds reduces the impact on every area and
everyone. Edmonds has grown since the last census; she sees a lot of new housing. She appreciated the
example of lower percentages in every area which is fair; no one wants additional growth and it's not fair
for some areas not to take their share. Three stories or higher if a community requests such as Firdale was
acceptable. There is a lot of multifamily in 5 Corners and the side streets are very narrow. She feared with
a lot of additional growth, there would not be anywhere for cars to park other than on the street which would
render the streets impassable. On her street, if there is a car parked on one side, one car has to yield to let
the other car pass. Additional driveways and cars parked on both side of the street will be crazy, especially
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since there are no sidewalks on most of the side streets. The Medical District is three blocks from her house
which is close to 80', essential the Medical District and 5 Corners are the same and combining the two
percentages results in the bulk of the building in one place. She supported spreading density throughout the
city and liked the idea of including church properties. She supports diversity and said 5 Corners is probably
one of the most diverse areas in Edmonds other than Highway 99.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DOTSCH, TO
EXTEND TO 10 PM. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. RESOLUTION PROVIDING DIRECTION FOR COMP PLAN DRAFT GROWTH
ALTERNATIVES
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DOTSCH, TO
CHOOSE AS BOOKENDS THE CITY PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE B, DISTRIBUTED GROWTH,
AND THE COUNCILMEMBER DOTSCH PAPER ALTERNATE A, DISTRIBUTED APPROACH,
WITH BOTH HAVING HOSPITAL DISTRICT BUFFERS.
Council President Olson commented it would be necessary to hear from staff and councilmembers on this.
It seems most people appreciate the idea of spreading the growth out and environmental impacts of one
versus the other are unknown. As long as the buffer is included when the city learns the environmental
impacts are unacceptable, but the council could also chose parts of one distributed option and add it to the
other distributed option after the SEPA review. That may be a way to ultimately get to a preferred alternative
that would serve the community's desire to stay feeling a little smaller.
Councilmember Paine said she did not understand how this broadens anything and may actually narrow
things. She asked Council President Olson to explain how the two would work together. Council President
Olson responded as an example, if the DEIS was working off city Alt B and things were found that were
unacceptable and something was taken off, perhaps something on SR-104 in the other alternative could be
added to make up for what was taken off. Once the two approved environmental impacts are done and the
council mostly liked one plan and is choosing most of one plan but there were things that were unacceptable
in that plan that the council wanted to take off, they could be replaced with things from the other plan that
wasn't on the original Alt B to make up those units. Ms. McLaughlin explained in general the way it works
is the EIS is meant to be an informational document that shows whether or not there are significant impacts
anywhere throughout the plan in all the alternatives. Then basically it is an a la carte menu where the council
can pick and choose what ultimately would be in the preferred plan. There is no need to have wildly different
bookends; there is enough difference between the location, extent and height of the parcels to have those
bookends. Council President Olson commented there are things people like and could be excited about in
the two different alternatives so it would be nice to have the option to pick things from those alternatives.
Councilmember Paine said it sounds like this is too narrow and she would not be able to support the two
distributed options in the motion.
Councilmember Nand asked who drafted the resolution, commenting she was having trouble following it.
Council President Olson answered it was drafted by the city attorney. Councilmember Nand asked why
there were no defined terms for Alt A and B hubs versus neighborhood centers. She was confused about
Alt A, focused growth and Alt B distributed growth and five sections with different options and minor
changes. It seems like it would have been more prudent for the council to have made a policy decision and
then direct the city attorney to prepare a simpler resolution for council consideration. She preferred that
approach to attempting to wade through this omnibus set of pre -drafted options. Mr. Taraday agreed that is
normally how things are done when there is plenty of time. Due to the time pressure, staff wanted to draft
something that preserved council's ability to act tonight if it chose to while not prescribing council's
choices. He agreed there were a lot of options in the way the resolution is drafted. If it was confusing, he
could walk the council through it. In short, the way it was drafted it was intended the council would select
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only one of the five options and customize that option accordingly. Option 1 represents the planning board
recommendation. The pending motion is essentially Option 3, keeping one of planning board's alternatives
and replacing the other planning board alternative with one of Councilmember Dotsch's alternatives.
Councilmember Nand asked if the council adopted any of the alternatives from Councilmember Dotsch's
white paper, did that change the scope and a budgetary of the EIS. She was very concerned about that
without fully understanding the financial impact. Mr. Taraday answered there were at least schedule
ramifications. Ms. McLaughlin answered there would certainly be scope, schedule and budget implications
with entirely scrapping one of the alternatives that has gone through a very intentional and public process.
It would need to be analyzed against all the factors and for consistency with state, county, regional and
local policies and criteria, and then go back through the planning board and public processes to ensure it
was vetted as the other alternative has been. Staff has not reviewed or analyzed the alternatives in the white
paper. Staff will take direction from council consensus.
Councilmember Nand commented if the council went with anything other than Option 1, the city could
potentially be paying more than $650,000 to the consultant for the comprehensive plan update. Ms.
McLaughlin answered she was unable to provide that number because she had not done the math or the
analysis. Councilmember Nand commented in this budget year with the budget crisis the city is in, she did
not find it prudent to expand the scope and pay additional money to a consultant. Ms. McLaughlin pointed
out there is an aggressive deadline to complete the comprehensive plan by the end of the year. She was
confident that could be met with the current project plan and with an authentic and transparent public
process. Going back to the drawing board would likely exceed the deadline for the comprehensive plan
which also has state funding implications.
Councilmember Chen said he did not support the proposal to combine Option B in the white paper with
staff s Alternative B without knowing the percentage of each. If everything is unwound and restudied, a
determination will need to be made regarding that combination. In addition, the white paper is not definite,
it is just a high level concept. He concluded it was too vague and he could not support it.
Councilmember Eck did not support the motion. She respects the time and effort put into the white paper,
but agreed a white paper was a conceptual document. Public input is critical and so much work has been
done by the public on the plans that have been presented by the planning department and planning board.
The planning board members are volunteers and represent the public. There have been numerous outlets
and listening points over the past few months in various formats and forms to ensure public input is heard.
One person cannot say they speak for the community; all residents are Edmonds whether they live in
Westgate like she does, downtown, or 5 Corners. Fairness and equitability is very important to her and all
areas needs to participate in the evenly distributed, equitable growth that is coming. It is more than just the
state mandates, it is about what is right, about the housing needed now and in the future in Edmonds and
getting ahead of it. The thought, labor, intellect, and public outreach that has been put into the alternatives
to get to this point represents a level of due diligence. She did not believe it was prudent at this point to
start over. She relayed her understanding that the council could end up through the environmental analysis
with a hybrid and it may not be necessary to zone to the heights proposed. In addition, not all this growth
will happen overnight; regardless of what plan the council adopts, there will not be bulldozers knocking
everything down in Edmonds. This is methodical and something that will happen over a long period of time
and the council will continue to listen to the community.
Councilmember Dotsch commented with the two options based on 15-minute neighborhoods, all the areas
were chosen for that and now that is gone because no one understood it and many of the neighborhoods are
not 15 minutes from things. The concept led to the dots on the map versus spreading out the growth. No
decisions have been made, this is just information gathering in order to make good decisions and provide
more tools versus just the hubs and centers that staff proposed. She was in favor of using highways, arterials
and church properties to expand that scope which will provide information to make a better decision. She
was concerned with unfunded infrastructure when growth is focused in certain small areas. She grew up in
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Edmonds and knows the area; more goes into it than placing a dot on a map. She preferred to study an
option that spread growth out, noting that does not have to be the final decision, the council can mix and
match when it comes back. She observed in the information provided by staff, the Medical District was up
to 2,000 units and she asked how that was determined. Ms. McLaughlin referred to the AUD discussion
regarding methodology assumptions based on HB 1337 which requires two ADUs per lot. Whether one or
two ADUs per lot is selected significantly impacts the numbers. In the distributed alternative, the Medical
District has a broader footprint and includes four stories. The decision regarding ADUs will be critical, but
does not need to be made right now.
Councilmember Dotsch referred to Alt B which goes up to 2,000 units as an option. If two ADUs per lot
are included and the extra units in the Medical District, clearly that area has capacity for more housing
according to the numbers in staff s Alt B. Ms. McLaughlin answered there are 2,000 in the Medical District
in Alternative B proposal to account for the chance there would be only one ADU allowed per lot. That is
done by a broader distribution of the parcels but not increasing the height. That is also proximate to 220th
and the BRT Swift. It is still in keeping with the scale of the rest of the hubs and centers in terms of height.
She emphasized both Alternatives A and B in staff s proposal distribute growth in all hubs and centers; it
is still a distributed model, Alt B provides more density allowance in the Medical District.
Councilmember Dotsch referred to the number of units in staff s Alt B, if the Medical District expansion
of 2,000 is added and the number of ADUs is two, 3,600 — 4,000 total units were estimated. Going back to
two per lot plus expansion would provide a lot of capacity options within the Medical Center in Alt B in
the even Perrinville or Firdale north have to be removed. Ms. McLaughlin said the 10% buffer that was
added was to accommodate the policy decision related to ADUs, ensure there is enough flex to make
decisions based on the DEIS once it comes out. This is a good time for council to reach a consensus on any
deal breakers so they can be taken out and proceed with the DEIS without them.
Councilmember Dotsch said she would be interested in seeing that explored as part of the DEIS. Ms.
McLaughlin asked for clarification regarding what she wanted explored. Councilmember Dotsch answered
adding the Medical Center explanation to Alternative B. Ms. McLaughlin answered the area details for the
Medical District expansion are in the slides and in the council packet. Councilmember Dotsch asked if that
would be included even though the capacity staff estimated included one ADU but could be changed to two
ADUs in Alt B. Ms. McLaughlin advised Alt A has two ADU unit assumption and Alt B has the one ADU
unit assumption. At the end of the day, those are bookending the number of units and they can be swapped
out at the end.
Councilmember Dotsch expressed support for Alt B distributed growth with the Medical Center and
distributed from her white paper.
Council President Olson agreed the call for calm by another councilmember is appropriate. These options
will not ruin Edmonds. It is about ensuring the best option are chosen and she continued to think looking
at these distributed options would be the best way to proceed. She recalled another councilmember
mentioned the decision about changing the combinations would hold things up, but that is what council is
doing right now, establishing the bookends. The combination of the two distributed options provides the
best options to choose from. She appreciated the concern with the unknown cost impacts. She asked staff
about the cost impact of delaying. Ms. McLaughlin answered staff would need to analyze the white paper
to understand the implications the consultant would need to factor in to understand the additional scope,
budget and schedule. That has not been done at this time. Council President Olson expressed support for
the motion as it is the best option.
Councilmember Chen observed there were five options in the draft resolution: 1) staff recommendation, 2)
staff recommendation with minor changes, 3) major changes to staff recommendations, 4) major additions
to staff recommendation, and 5), major changes and additions to staff recommendation. He asked which
option the council was approving with adoption of the resolution. Mr. Taraday answered the pending motion
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would be most consistent with Option 3 because it keeps one of planning board's recommendations and
substitutes the planning board's other recommendation with one of Councilmember Dotsch's white paper
options. If the motion passes, staff will work to bring the resolution back on consent next week or make
additional edits to Option 3 for Council to finalize tonight.
MOTION FAILED (2-4), COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON AND COUNCILMEMBER DOTSCH
VOTING YES.
COUNCILMEMBER CHEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER PAINE, TO ADOPT
GROWTH ALTERNATIVE B WITH TWO ADU ASSUMPTION.
Councilmember Nand asked if he was choosing an option with the intent to select a second option.
Councilmember Chen answered only Alternative B. Councilmember Nand relayed her preference for
Alternative B but her understanding of the framework was to set a parameter with two options for the EIS.
Mr. Taraday answered SEPA encourages the study of alternatives. Staff s recommendation was the EIS
analyze two alternatives in addition to a no growth alternative which would also be his recommendation. If
Councilmember Chen's motion is to only study one alternative plus the no growth alternative, he did not
recommend that for SEPA compliance reasons.
Councilmember Chen said he was not just proposing Alternative B, he was proposing Alternative B with
the assumption that two ADUs would be allowed. Ms. McLaughlin relayed her understanding of
Councilmember Chen's motion was Alternative B because it the planning board's recommendation with a
minor modification to assume the two ADUs instead of one. Councilmember Chen commented that would
be Option 2 in the resolution, staff recommendation with some minor changes.
Councilmember Chen restated the motion:
ADOPT OPTION 2 - STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH MINOR CHANGES. THE CHANGE
IS TWO ADU ASSUMPTION.
Mr. Taraday restated the motion:
OPTION 2 AS FOLLOWS: ALTERNATIVE A AS PROPOSED AND ALTERNATIVE B
MODIFIED TO INCLUDE AN ASSUMPTION OF TWO ADUS PER PARCEL INSTEAD OF ONE.
Councilmember Nand clarified it would be Section 1, Option 2 and in paragraph 2, two ADUs per parcel.
Councilmember Dotsch raised a point of order, the DEIS is analyzing the merits and impacts of at least two
alternatives to compare to a do nothing alternative. It is not appropriate to study one alternative and a do
nothing alternative.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ECK, TO
EXTEND TO 10:15 PM. MOTION CARRIED (5-1), COUNCILMEMBER NAND VOTING NO.
Mr. Taraday explained there are two alternatives proposed in the motion in addition to the no action
alternative, planning board Alternative A without modification and planning board Alternative B with the
modification that Councilmember Chen identified.
Ms. McLaughlin commented the one versus two ADU applies to the methodology which applies to both
alternatives. She asked if Councilmember Chen intended to apply that only to Alt B or to both alternatives.
It could be studied differently in each alternative; assume in Alt A there is one ADU and two in Alt B.
Councilmember Chen answered the intent is bookends, he was proposing allow two ADUs as the bookend,
which opens the option to lower the density as two ADUs would dilute the concentration of building height
and ease building height tension. Many residents are opposed to increased building heights in 5 Corners
and elsewhere.
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Councilmember Nand expressed concern she and other councilmembers will end up voting on something
they do not quite understand in terms of its budgetary impacts. She wondered if it would be more prudent
to table this item and instruct the city attorney to bring something back for consideration on the consent
agenda next week.
Councilmember Paine described why she supported the motion; it takes in all the fixed elements from the
GMA including high capacity transit, consideration of critical area, rulemaking and considerations provided
by PSRC and Snohomish County. It also helps support human scale and economic equity all across
Edmonds so it is a shared benefit and burden. It would allow access to nearby amenities and the potential
over the next 20 years. It studies the environmental impact on already burdened areas, studies citywide
resiliency and support for small neighborhood commercial areas.
To the concern about the council voting on the right thing, Council President Olson said the motion is a
decision regarding the alternatives first and the council can deal with the resolution second. Mr. Taraday
said he could not amend the resolution without further council direction. The council first needs to give him
direction on what the resolution should looks like and then whether that will be done tonight or on consent
next week. Council President Olson pointed out that was a separate decision from the motion. She suggested
councilmembers quickly weigh in on the motion and take a five minute recess while the city attorney
finalizes the resolution. That way councilmembers would be perfectly clear what they are voting on in terms
of the resolution.
Council President Olson said she was not satisfied with these bookends so she will vote no on the motion.
She was satisfied with one of the two bookends and although she did not feel this was the end of the world,
she was not able to support it.
Councilmember Dotsch clarified Alt A already includes two ADUs per single family lot. The public has
indicated they are not interested in greater than three stories in most neighborhood hubs which is Alt A that
creates density and height in centers such as 5 Corners and Westgate. She did not support the motion.
Councilmember Nand said she honored and respected the public's energy, passion and enthusiasm. The
city is legally obligated to adopt a comprehensive plan update every five years, but the zoning laws are not
set in stone and adjustments can be made between the five year periods. She did not want the public to feel
intimidated if the council chooses an option they did not support; there will still be a public process and
elected representatives will still take public input because that is their job. The city has legal obligations
related to adopting the comprehensive plan update and if not fulfilled, the state can withhold funding for
vital services in the community. She has always strongly supported local control and wanted community
input and community driven development and did not want Olympia telling the city what to do. However,
the city must meet its legal obligations to update the comprehensive plan. Continuing to drag out this
conversation is costing a lot of taxpayer money so she will vote in favor of Councilmember Chen's motion
to provide direction to the city attorney, be pens down by April 13, undergo this process, and hopefully get
the comprehensive plan adopted before December 31, 2024 and not jeopardize state funding.
Councilmember Eck expressed support for the motion which applies principles similar to downtown to the
neighborhood nodes to give them attributes of the beloved downtown. These benefits are centered
community, economic prosperity, managed growth, and the inherent need for placemaking. These plans
bring value. The city is obligated to plan for growth and spreading it out equitably is the right thing to do.
Mr. Taraday restated the resolution version of the motion:
RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET WITH OPTION 2 SELECTED, "THE TWO GROWTH
ALTERNATIVES FORMULATED BY THE ADMINISTRATION ("ALTERNATIVE A -
FOCUSED GROWTH" AND "ALTERNATIVE B - DISTRIBUTED GROWTH") ARE BROAD
AND INCLUSIVE ENOUGH THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL LIKELY BE ABLE TO ADOPT
A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONTAINING POLICIES THAT ARE REASONABLY
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CONSISTENT WITH THE RANGE OF POLICIES TO BE ANALYZED IN THE FORTHCOMING
EIS PROVIDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD SPECIFICALLY LIKE TO MADE THE
FOLLOWING CHANGES FOR THE PURPOSES OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW:
ALTERNATIVE B SHOULD BE MODIFIED TO ASSUME TWO ADUS PER LOT."
MOTION CARRIED (4-2), COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON AND COUNCILMEMBER DOTSCH
VOTING NO.
COUNCILMEMBER ECK MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER PAINE, TO ADOPT
THE RESOLUTION AS PROPOSED. MOTION CARRIED (4-2), COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON
AND COUNCILMEMBER DOTSCH VOTING NO.
ADJOURNMENT
With no further business, the special council meeting was adjourned at 10:10 pm.
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