2024-01-24 Planning Board MinutesCITY OF EDMONDS PLANNING BOARD
Minutes of Hybrid Meeting
January 24, 2024
Chair Mitchell called the hybrid meeting of the Edmonds Planning Board to order at 7:00 p.m. at Edmonds City
Hall and on Zoom.
LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLES
The Land Acknowledgement was read by Board Member Maxwell.
Board Members Present
Jeremy Mitchell, Chair
Lauren Golembiewski, Vice Chair (online)
Judi Gladstone
Susanna Martini
Nick Maxwell
Emily Nutsch (alternate) (online)
Lily Distelhorst (student rep) (online)
Board Members Absent
Richard Kuehn (excused)
READING/APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Staff Present
Susan McLaughlin, Development Services Director
Mike Clugston, Senior Planner
Jeff Taraday, City Attorney
Rose Haas, Planner
Jeff Levy (online)
Jeanie McConnell, Engineering Program Manager
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MARTINI, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER NUTSCH,
TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 10, 2024 AS AMENDED.
Board Member Gladstone offered a friendly amendment to amend the 2nd bullet on page 4 to read, "Vice Chair
Golembiewski expressed support for staff s recommendations." Board Member Martini accepted the
amendment.
MOTION PASSED.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF AGENDA
THERE WAS UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
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Roger Pence, former Planning Board Member/Chair made suggestions regarding Detached Accessory
Dwelling Units (DADUs). He is supportive of these but acknowledged that they have some issues of
controversy around them. He would like to see more public engagement on this issue to get public concerns
identified and dealt with. He recommended holding some sort of public forum to begin a discussion prior to a
formal public hearing.
Rick Schafer, Edmonds resident, stormwater professional, stated that there is a lot of coordination that needs to
go on between Public Works and the variety of different planning efforts (Comprehensive Plan, Stormwater
Management Plan Update, DADUs). He expressed concern about the increased density and impervious surfaces
in neighborhoods with DADUs. It is likely they would fall beneath the thresholds for stormwater controls being
required on site, but they will still have an impact. He noted they have been hearing about the degradation of
streams in the city for years. Increasing unmitigated impervious densities is going to be a problem.
ADNWOSTRATIVE REPORTS
None
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None
A. Tree Canopy Goal / Legal Aspects of Tree Regulation
City Attorney Jeff Taraday made a brief presentation regarding legal aspects of tree regulation including various
kinds of "takings". There was some discussion about competing policy priorities that can arise in developing
code like the tree code. There were also several questions raised following the discussion. Some questions
related to application of the takings law on the preliminary draft tree code that the Planning Board members are
working on. A few questions were asked about the nexus between the tree code and future plans for a piece of
property, such as downzoning or putting a DADU on a property.
Director McLaughlin made a presentation regarding the City of Edmonds Tree Canopy Goals. Edmonds current
tree canopy was 34.6% in 2021. Other jurisdictions in the region seem to be consistently using a 38% tree
canopy goal. She reviewed three options for Edmonds depending on how ambitious we want to be with an
estimated cost of $105,000 per acre of tree canopy over 30 years. Questions were asked related to what has
been seen with the tree canopy over time in Edmonds and the schedule for doing the work.
• 2.0% increase: 122 acres to reach 36.6% ($12.8m)
• 3.4% increase: 207 acres to reach 38% ($21.7m)
• 5.4% increase: 330 acres to reach 40% ($34.7m)
Jeff Levy explained that the cost per acre includes the total cost of planting an acre of trees including trees,
labor, and time. Director McLaughlin explained next steps include re-engaging the 2020 consultants to study
possible vegetation areas and run feasibility studies. This would be followed by developing policy to increase
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tree canopy coverage and promote responsible development, not hindering GMA goals with HB 1337 and HB
1110 developments.
B. Accessory Dwelling Unit Code Amendment to allow for Detached Accessory Dwelling Units -
"Expanding housing options by easing barriers to the construction and use of accessory dwelling units
in accordance with HB 1337."
Planner Rose Haas reviewed a summary table of the existing code and the proposed code updates as required
by HB 1337. She recapped discussion items from January 10 and the Planning Division's responses. Regarding
concerns about the cost of water meters, sewer connections, and utility undergrounding, Planning Division
recommends reducing costs for homeowners as much as possible and collaborating with the Public Works
Department, Utility Billing, South County Fire, and OVWSD to ensure all requirements are met.
Engineering Division Recommendations:
• New and extended utilities must be undergrounded. (already in the code)
• All units must have unrestricted access to utility control systems.
• Only one water service and meter allowed per parcel.
• Only one sewer lateral is allowed per parcel.
• Upsizing or replacement of existing service lines/laterals may be required.
Chair Mitchell asked if there would be a separate power meter. Ms. Haas was not sure about that. She offered
to check with Engineering.
Ms. Haas explained that OVWSD ADU policies require that ADUs and DADUs must be served by a separate
water service line and meter. Shared sewer lateral is not required. Sewer pipe upsizes may be required based on
site conditions. Ms. Haas explained that there can be different regulations for the water and sewer districts or
the City can synchronize policies with OVWSD.
Jeanie McConnell, Engineering Program Manager, referred to Chair Mitchell's earlier question about power
and stated that Edmonds doesn't specifically regulate how power is provided to each one of the properties and
whether one meter is required or multiple meters are allowed. Snohomish County PUD is the regulatory body
on that. She is not sure what their position would be. Edmonds' code would specify that whoever is residing in
each of the residences has access to the controls for power systems and any shared utilities. She stated they just
recently learned that OVWSD has a policy in place already for ADUs and DADUs. Staff realizes they need to
have additional conversations with OVWSD. Ideally it would be convenient to have the same policies but it
may not end up that way. Currently, staff s opinion is that they should require shared utility systems for each
residential property. This may result in the need to upsize the current water meter, but that is less expensive than
adding an additional water meter.
Chair Mitchell asked about situations where the existing residence's sewer laterals are clay or concrete pipe.
Ms. McConnell explained that currently when there is an addition to a single-family residence like an ADU or
a DADU, they do not require that the sewer lateral be reviewed unless there is a known issue. The utility system
on site may need to be upgraded depending on what will be joining to that system and how they decide to route
the utilities through the site. However, if there are existing clay lines it may be to the owner's benefit to replace
them anyway so they don't have a sewer issue with a future resident of one of those units.
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Board Member Martini asked how condominiumization would impact this. Ms. Haas replied that they would
have one shared meter for the property. Board Member Maxwell explained that part of what the condominium
association deals with is how to allocate the costs.
Vice Chair Golembiewski asked if properties within the OVWSD have the same facility charges for new meters.
Ms. McConnell replied that they have their own set of facility charges.
Board Member Gladstone thought there was a potential policy conflict because the State Department of Health
has been working to get people to meter for the sake of water conservation. She wondered how or if that factors
in. Board Member Maxwell thought it wasn't something to worry about because these would be really small
condos. Board Member Gladstone also wondered about the loss of control with just one line for DADUs unless
there is a shutoff valve for the second unit so they can shut off their water. Also, she had concerns about what
would happen if one property owner doesn't pay the bill. Ms. McConnell replied that currently it would be
primary resident's responsibility to make those payments. If somebody failed to make a payment it would be
through a shared system and could result in a water shutoff that may affect more than one unit.
Ms. Haas continued to review responses to January 10 discussion topics. Regarding critical areas, Planning
Division recommends allowing ADUs on lots that contain critical areas or their associated buffers so long as
they can meet protection standards in ECDC Title 23 (Natural Resources). Regarding restrictive covenants,
Planning Division would like to remove owner -occupancy requirements and associated covenants and allow
nullification of all owner occupancy covenants on the date of code adoption ECDC 16.20.050(L). This is
currently under review with the city attorney and is subject to change. Regarding setback reduction incentives
if height of unit is limited to preserve views and protect privacy, Planning Division's recommendations are as
follows:
• Do not limit density to protect private view corridors.
• It is inequitable to allow a reduction in setbacks for height limited units. Only units in largest parcels
could take full advantage of this incentive. Small parcel owners may not be able to build an ADU
without reduced rear setbacks.
• Support housing that can accommodate families. Setback reduction incentive linked to height will limit
the size of unit allowed on most parcels.
• Policy does not align with Climate Action Plan and Tree Canopy Goal.
Vice Chair Golembiewski thought that they would actually be increasing the density if they are allowing
reduced setbacks for single stories in places where they don't have enough room to meet their setback
requirements that are already in the code. She clarified that her ideas on this weren't about protecting views at
all. It was an idea to incentivize the type of ADUs that she thinks Edmonds wants to see. Chair Mitchell didn't
think this was any different than the CG step back incentivized options. Board Member Maxwell thought this
didn't need to relate to views at all and noted it isn't a requirement. It just gives people an option to build into
their setback as long as they keep it to a single story. Board Member Gladstone agreed that the incentive was
not intended to preserve views but to respond to hearing people's reluctance about two-story buildings that may
not fit in. She commented that the RCWs allow for incentivizing whatever you want.
Ms. Haas referred to the transit stop buffers and parking requirements and reviewed that the Board had asked
to see areas where parking will not be required per 1337 in addition to other areas that we could limit parking.
No parking is required within a half -mile of a major transit stop, as defined in RCW 36.70A.696(8). She
reviewed maps showing one half -mile buffer from major transit stops, one-half mile from transit stops in single -
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family zones, and buffers from all transit stops. Staff is not recommending extending requirements beyond what
1337 is requiring. Board Member Nutsch commented that the intent of 1337 is to have more affordable housing,
and she wanted to make sure they are not moving away from all the major bus stops and going to all bus stops
because a lot of entry level jobs don't operate on standard commute schedule and require that people have cars
to get to work. Chair Mitchell asked if they had an inventory of the number of street parking spaces in the city.
Director McLaughlin explained they didn't have that level of detail. She added that on street parking should not
be considered as an option to accommodate private property needs because when they are doing multimodal
improvements such as transit or bike infrastructure or even pedestrian improvements, they may need to remove
that parking. Chair Mitchell said he would be interested in seeing the amount of available parking spaces as
they look at the DADU code and minimum parking requirement. Director McLaughlin commented that there
is an abundance of parking, and there is a good reason to not require parking as part of ADUs, namely the cost
it would add to the homeowner and the rental fees. Chair Mitchell recommended putting staff s recommendation
for parking in the packet as part of the public hearing in order to get feedback on it.
Ms. Haas reviewed the tentative schedule and public outreach efforts. She stated she would be providing the
public comments to the Board prior to the public hearing. Board Member Gladstone recommended that staff
promote the online public comment opportunity now so people have the ability to be able to provide comments
on the draft code language before or in addition to the public hearing. There was consensus to continue the
discussion on the draft code to the date of the public hearing.
C. Draft CARA Memo
Chair Mitchell read the draft CARA memo. The Board expressed general support for the memo.
Board Member Maxwell noted an amendment in the background section, 4th paragraph, second from the last
line. The word "code" needs to be added after CARA.
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MAXWELL, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER
MARTINI, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MEMO AS AMENDED. MOTION PASSED
UNANIMOUSLY.
PLANNING BOARD EXTENDED AGENDA
Chair Mitchell spoke to the heavy workload this year and options available to the Board in order to cover
everything. There was some interest in having a longer meeting but starting earlier. Mr. Clugston indicated that
was an option but it would require it being a special meeting. Board Member Gladstone was supportive of
utilizing subgroups again or holding a separate special meeting rather than extending a regular meeting even
longer.
Mr. Clugston reviewed the extended agenda and explained that unfortunately he didn't have more detail about
the Comprehensive Plan updates. Public hearings for DADUs and Green Building Incentives are both being
planned for February 28. Mr. Clugston acknowledged it was not ideal and would be a challenge. He stated if
there is additional work to do, they can continue it to another meeting. The Board was opposed to having two
public hearings on one night. Mr. Clugston indicated he could try to change one of them. The Board was
supportive of pushing out the Green Building Incentives public hearing. There was consensus to hold the retreat
as a separate special meeting.
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PLANNING BOARD CHAIR COMMENTS
None
PLANNING BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
Board Member Nutsch expressed appreciation for the discussion tonight and everyone's willingness to be
creative with some of the things that don't have simple solutions.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:36 p.m.
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