2024-04-10 Planning Board MinutesCITY OF EDMONDS PLANNING BOARD
Minutes of Hybrid Meeting
April 10, 2024
Chair Mitchell called the hybrid meeting of the Edmonds Planning Board to order at 7:00 p.m. at Edmonds City
Hall and on Zoom.
LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLES
The Land Acknowledgement was read by Board Member Martini.
Board Members Present
Jeremy Mitchell, Chair
Lauren Golembiewski, Vice Chair (online)
Susanna Martini
Nick Maxwell
Board Members Absent
Judi Gladstone (excused)
Richard Kuehn (excused)
READING/APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Staff Present
Mike Clugston, Acting Planning Manager
Rose Haas, Planner
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MARTINI, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR
GOLEMBIEWSKI, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MARCH 27, 2024 AS PRESENTED.
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF AGENDA
THERE WAS UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Roger Pence, former Planning Board member/chair, commented on the issue of the stated growth targets of
13,000 people and 9,000 units. After doing his own research he found that there is no justification for the
expectation that the City of Edmonds is going to grow by 13,000 people in the next 20 years which is 4'/2 times
the growth rate of the previous 20 years. He also referred to the RM zoning and urged the City to enable smaller
units (1300 to 900 sf units) which could result a 50% increase in unit count out of future development in that
zone.
NEW BUSINESS
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A. Accessory Dwelling Unit Code Update (AMD2023-0008)
The Board agreed to discuss this topic but wait to make a final recommendation at a future meeting when more
members are present. Planner Rose Haas presented the proposed code update and summarized staff
recommendations on areas where staff is seeking a recommendation from the Planning Board — reduction in
rear setbacks, total gross floor area restrictions, parking requirements, and whether to have impact fees. The
City Council public hearing is scheduled tentatively for May 7. Via Perkins Eastman, the consultant, is
projecting 2,010 ADUs to be built by 2044, or 105 per year. There some discussion about the illustrations and
a request for a 3-D model showing potential ADU development for better visualization. Staff responded to
clarification questions about the City's ability to require parking, whether ADUs can be built in front of a
primary residence, and the relationship between planning for development and building the infrastructure.
The group debated proposed size restrictions, possible setbacks, and heights. The sizes seemed appropriate to
some members. The height of the units appears to be the biggest concern for people in proximity to their existing
houses for privacy, light/views, and aesthetics. There was a suggestion to expand incentives (such as reduced
setbacks) for single story to other parcel sizes instead of just the smaller parcels. Several members expressed
agreement. There was a recommendation to not automatically offer the 10-foot setback on RS-6 or RS-8 in
order to encourage single -story through incentives on the small lots. There was significant discussion about
hypothetical and actual scenarios with varying heights and setbacks. A question was asked if stepbacks could
be required for the second story in certain situations. Staff clarified that they can't restrict it more than they
would for a single-family structure. There was support for having the setbacks for two-story DADUs be the
same as the primary house.
There was some discussion about the fact that unconditioned space for single-family homes is not currently
restricted, so it cannot be restricted for ADUs as long as it meets lot coverage restrictions. It was noted that they
could potentially end up with a 1200 sf ADU built over 1200 sf of unconditioned space in some circumstances.
This might not be a bad thing as it is an efficient building style and could help with parking concerns. Planning
Manager Clugston stressed that this would be a very uncommon situation.
The group debated whether or not to require parking spaces for ADUs. Based on public concerns about not
requiring parking, a suggestion was offered to allow no parking for ADUs under a certain size threshold. Those
smaller units could potentially also be exempt from impact fees due to their small scale. Various options for
parking requirements were discussed. The City of Kirkland's regulations were reviewed which do not require
parking for one ADU but require an extra space if there are two. It was noted that this would be a way of meeting
the community halfway to address concerns about parking. The idea of having residential permit parking was
briefly mentioned. There was some discussion about whether it would be possible to do a public survey just on
the parking topic to get a better feel of the public opinion. Planning Manager Clugston suggested that the
Planning Board could provide City Council with more than one creative idea for them to debate; they don't
have to provide just one solution. Ms. Haas commented on the discrepancy between the comments that staff
receives on day-to-day planning and the public feedback they have gotten on this topic with regard to setbacks,
parking, size, etc. It was noted that people who actually want to build want flexibility with parking. Incentives
can be useful with a certain size threshold.
The group was supportive of requiring impact fees to sustain growth. There was a suggestion that smaller units
could be exempt (500-600 sf) due to their reduced scale. There was another suggestion to require an application
if someone wants to waive impact fees. Staff raised a concern about incentivizing smaller units because of the
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lack of diverse housing this could produce. It was noted that the type of structure built would still be market -
driven. There was discussion about costs to build ADUs, whether converted she -sheds would be allowed, ADA
accessibility, and whether impact fees would be a barrier for builders. There seemed to be agreement that the
proposed impact fees were appropriate.
L rr , a member of the public raised a concern about ADUs being permitted by the City in PRDs (Planned
Residential Developments) even though there might be existing HOA or CCRs precluding them. Ms. Haas
affirmed this could happen, but if the PRD had an existing ban prior to a certain date, the PRD could ban it as
part of that private agreement. In that instance it would be a civil issue between the homeowner and the HOA
or the PRD. However, the City would not be involved in regulating it. Larry expressed concern that the only
remedy available after the City approved the permit would be for someone to sue to stop the development. He
recommended that they look into this further. There was some support by board members to follow up with the
City Attorney and defer to the City Council. Staff added that they do not currently look at HOA documents
when reviewing building permits, so this would not be different than the existing situation.
PLANNING BOARD EXTENDED AGENDA
April 24 — Green Building incentives; Detached Accessory Dwelling Units - Vice Chair Golembiewski and
Board Member Maxwell will work on a draft recommendation on ADUs based on tonight's discussion for
consideration on April 24.
May 22 - Staff will confirm the joint meeting with the EDC. There may also be an update on the Tree Canopy
study at this meeting. If so, staff will consider whether to move the public hearing for the Green Building
incentives. It is not known if or when the Board will get back to the Tree Code this year.
PLANNING BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
Board Member Maxwell reported on a recent Council discussion regarding growth alternatives for the
Comprehensive Plan. He expressed concern about the lack of time to preparation a presentation for the City
Council that would have facilitated better discussion and understanding. He recommended that the Planning
Board not do anything that they don't have to do this year (tree plan, Climate Element) so they can better focus
on what needs to be done with the rest of the Comprehensive Plan and do it well.
PLANNING BOARD CHAIR COMMENTS
None
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 8:58 p.m.
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