2024-07-23 Council Minutes
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July 23, 2024
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EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MEETING
DRAFT MINUTES
July 23, 2024
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Mike Rosen, Mayor
Vivian Olson, Council President
Chris Eck, Councilmember
Will Chen, Councilmember
Neil Tibbott, Councilmember
Michelle Dotsch, Councilmember
Susan Paine, Councilmember
Jenna Nand, Councilmember
STAFF PRESENT
Kim Dunscombe, Deputy Admin. Serv. Dir.
Todd Tatum, Comm., Culture & Econ. Dev. Dir.
Rob English, Acting Public Works Director
Bertrand Hauss, Transportation Engineer
Ryan Hague, Project Manager
Jeff Taraday, City Attorney
Scott Passey, City Clerk
Jerrie Bevington, Camera Operator
1. CALL TO ORDER/FLAG SALUTE
The Edmonds City Council meeting was called to order at 6:59 pm by Mayor Rosen in the Council
Chambers, 250 5th Avenue North, Edmonds, and virtually. The meeting was opened with the flag salute.
2. LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
Councilmember Tibbott read the City Council Land Acknowledge Statement: “We acknowledge the
original inhabitants of this place, the Sdohobsh (Snohomish) people and their successors the Tulalip Tribes,
who since time immemorial have hunted, fished, gathered, and taken care of these lands. We respect their
sovereignty, their right to self-determination, and we honor their sacred spiritual connection with the land
and water.”
3. ROLL CALL
City Clerk Scott Passey called the roll. All elected officials were present.
4. PRESENTATIONS
1. MAYOR’S UPDATE
Mayor Rosen explained the council requested he provide frequent updates on fiscal activities in the City.
The council received a robust report on July 2 so he won’t repeat that information. In addition to his
comments, the agenda includes four related items, the June 2024 Quarterly Financial Report, draft financial
policies, budget amendments and restructuring of the finance department. Staff is also rigorously updating
the revenue projections to forecast yearend. The statistically valid survey referenced in the packet has
received approximately 100 responses as of late last week. There has been some confusion by the public
because the survey did not immediately reveal it was from the City. A survey will also be offered to the
community at large once this data has been collected. The survey is being conducted in two additional
languages, Spanish and Vietnamese. Also of interest financially, the Blake decision in which some drugs
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were no longer criminalized, has some impacts; Edmonds has been allocated $180,000 for the court to
analyzing the volume of those cases and staffing needed to do that work.
Mayor Rosen continued, there are also conversations occurring with unions regarding potential savings.
Consideration is being given to other cost saving measures such as potentially discontinuing offering
passports due to the additional workload that school zone cameras have on the court. If passports are
discontinued, there will be an effort to identify another location in the community that would be revenue
neutral such as the library. Also in the category of “looking under every cushion for opportunities,” during
Covid working from home was required and since then the workforce has changed somewhat resulting
people having multiple devices such as a desk computer and a device they took home resulting in more
devices than employees. There is not a lot of money in surplusing those devices, but there are savings in
the license fee per device. For example he had a laptop and a desktop computer, he now has a docking
station.
Mayor Rosen continued, fleet is also looking for opportunities to surplus underutilized or outdated vehicles.
Consideration is being given to converting to permitting software that the planning department believes
would be better, more helpful and cheaper. Due to the overlap, that may not provide immediate savings,
but it would be helpful in the long run. The 11-member advisory panel he appointed related to budgeting
by priorities had their first meeting. That meeting including a briefing and review of the survey before it
went out. He reminded there are three additional union negotiations this year; Teamsters in public works
and parks, AFSCME professional team, and EPOA law support.
Mayor Rosen relayed a fun fact, the Library of Commerce, formed in 1800, currently has 173 million items,
equivalent to 15 terabytes of memory. The City of Edmonds has 4 devices with 30 terabytes each.
Consideration is being given to purging items that no longer needs to be stored, whether there are other
ways to store information, and creating policies to make the City more efficient and save storage space.
2. EDMONDS DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE WORKPLAN
Community, Culture & Economic Development Director Todd Tatum introduced Kimberly Koenig
President, Ed! and Brian Scott and Jacqueline Robinette, Uncommon Bridges. He explained this agenda
item is to discuss the Business Improvement District’s (BID) work plan as requested in Resolution 1543
which the council approved in March 2024. No action is required or requested tonight.
Kimberley Koenig, President, Ed!, explained she has been an Ed! volunteer for the past 10 years and has
seen firsthand how lucky Edmonds is to have more than one organization continually working to keep
Edmonds a premier daytrip destination. The organizations work well together and their efforts complement
each other’s events and executions. Often members of the community or even council are not aware of
programming created over the past 11 years. Running a volunteer-led BID, like all organizations, can have
its challenges. Hundreds of small businesses participate in the BID programming and benefit from the work
they do. The BID is conscious of members’ investments and she was incredibly proud of the quality of the
work they produce with a budget four times smaller than similarly sized BIDs.
Ms. Koenig displayed a video highlighting the popular iconic umbrella program; free parking; bike racks
and pedestrian safety; public mural (Lovin’ Edmonds Summer); support during a global pandemic - safety
pledge certified, shop local shop online (LoveEmonds.com), supporting amazing humans who make up our
small business community – together we made it through; marketing programs – regional transit ads, Love
Lists, Green Edmonds, Lovin’ Summer Edmonds, business spotlights, fall retail promotions, Edmonds
Holidays, holiday branding, holiday trolley, Emily the Elf, interactive photo ops, festive drink bingo,
caroling contest/free holiday movie, and social media/digital advertising.
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Mr. Tatum continued, explaining the community, culture & economic development department coordinate
and collaborate with the BID in many ways. Their branding, coordination of activities and front door to
downtown provide a coherent and enjoyable experience for visitors. It also allows Edmonds to be seen as
a destination for visitors and business owners alike.
Brian Scott, Managing Principal, Uncommon Bridges, explained he has been involved in BID and
downtown revitalization for more than 40 years. He had the opportunity to offer assistance to Ed! when it
was initially established and spent a little time working with group in the last few weeks to outline the
process going forward. He reviewed:
• Successful Districts Require
• Vitality Depends on
o Cleanliness
o Strong Management
o Hospitality and safety
o Retail and Business Strategies
o Planning & Design Improvements
o Marketing and Promotions
• What is a Business Improvement District
o Improvement Districts have many names……
BID/BIA/EID/ESD/PID/EED
o Funding mechanism for local placemaking
o Enacted by City Council
o Managed in the neighborhood
o Assessment on properties and/or businesses
o Assessment based on local preference
o (square footage, value, sales, etc.)
o Uses are local preferences,, often:
Cleaning
Safety
Marketing & promotions
Business development
Professional Management
• Motivations for Creating a BID
o Increase
Activity
Vitality
Rent
Cleanliness
Public Safety
o Improve district image
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o District advocacy
o Everyone pays their fair share
• Business Improvement District Examples
o Downtown Everett Association
Created: 1995 (Renewed 2020)
Budget: $883,400
Assessment: $485,870
Activities:
- Professional Management
- Downtown Flower Program
- Cleaning & Maintenance
o West Seattle Junction BIA
Created: 1987
Budget: $1,289,009
Assessment: $570,000
Activities:
- Professional Management
- Marketing & Events
- Business Support
- Repairs & Maintenance
- Cleaning & Safety
- Parking
o Columbia City BIA
Created: 2009
Budget: $74,000
Assessment: $69,000
Activities:
- Marketing
- Cleaning Services
- Public Realm Improvements
- Business & Economic Development
- Advocacy
o U District Partnership
Created: 2015, renewed 2020
Budget: $2.3M
Assessment: $1.8M
Activities:
- Professional Management
- Cleaning Services
- Safety Ambassadors
- Homeless Outreach
- Marketing & Events
- Public Realm & Planning
- Research & Reports
o Ballard BIA
Created: 2016, Renewed & Expanded: 2023
Budget: $1,165,000 (Up from $500,000)
Assessment: $990,000
Activities:
- Community Engagement
- Urban Design & Transportation
- Economic Development
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- Policy & Advocacy
- Marketing
- Professional Management
- Cleaning Services
• Best Practices: Services are a local preference
• Best Practices: Formation/Renewal
o Involve the major payers early
o Authentic community engagement
o Extensive ratepayer vetting
o Make modifications where necessary to accommodate unique needs
o Tie assessments to benefits
o Multi-family residential properties and services are often key
o Realistic & strategic boundaries
o One-on-one outreach
Jacqueline Robinette, Organizational Development Lead, Uncommon Bridges, reviewed:
• Steps to Formation
o Organizational Assessment & Development
o Core group
Service area & goals
Work plan & budget
Assessment mechanism
o Building support
City check-ins
Community members & major ratepayers
Messaging
One-on-one contacts
General meetings
o Draft ordinance
o Gather ratepayer support
o Formal City Council process
• Ed! BID Review & Update Process
o Key stakeholder engagement
o Review, update, vet, and refine:
Services
Boundary
Assessment
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Budget
Organization structure
o Ratepayer marketing, & outreach
o Council Process
Resolution of intention to establish
Public hearing process
Ordinance to establish
o Timeline
Mr. Tatum summarized the resolution requested a plan for completion by late summer 2025. That includes
outreach and engagement now through approximately October, and crafting recommendations with
Uncommon Bridges’ assistance toward the end of the year. He anticipated the next presentation to council
would be January/February where strong idea about the assessment system, boundaries, etc. could be
presented, getting petitions together March through July, and a public hearing and council vote at the end
of August.
Councilmember Tibbott relayed he was impressed with the BID’s proposal, commenting it looked like the
BID planned to get a lot of feedback and build for the future. He asked if the BID anticipated expanding
the boundaries of the business district. Ms. Koenig answered that is being explored; there has been some
interest, particularly from the Salish Crossing area, about participating in the BID. The BID is also
considering adding an at-large option for businesses who want to participate but aren’t within the boundary.
Councilmember Tibbott referred to a reference to multifamily and asked if that would be an HOA
participating in the BID. Ms. Koenig said that will need be explored further with the board.
Councilmember Nand commented, as a former tenant in the BID area, she is a huge fan of the work they
do. She asked about the update process, whether there would be a majority vote of the participating business.
Mr. Scott answered it is the council’s authority that allows this to happen. Many communities ask ratepayers
to provide a petition showing some level of support. Most city governments pass it by resolution, the council
directing what they want to see. In his experience, he did not know of any that were a majority vote due to
the difficulty determining what that majority would look like because there are large and small property
owners, big and small businesses, tall and short buildings, etc. He said most often in a petition process,
there are petitions that are weighted by how much people will pay.
Councilmember Nand asked how the vote of tenants who are business owners versus property owners are
quantified. She liked the formula he offered. Mr. Scott answered this can be done many ways; the BID
currently assesses tenants in the district which makes sense because they are the people doing business
every day. The problem with that is there is no list of the all the businesses inside a certain boundary.
Businesses are supposed to have a business license, but in his experience not all do and their business
license address may not be the same as the location of the business. It is simpler to assess property owners
and let the property owner determine how to pass the cost onto their tenants. The group plans to look at
how assessments have been done, how collection is working, whether that method should continue or if
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there is a way to do it more effectively and efficiently by changing the assessment methodology. There is
no proposal at the moment, everyone is just thinking it through.
Councilmember Nand recalled when she participated in the BID, she was surprised that she was assessed
by the size of her little office because it did not correlate to the amount of revenue she was generating by
being in the BID. She suggested a tiered system based on income although recognized that may be
administratively difficult. Mr. Scott answered it is easy to come up with schemes that make sense the day
they are created, but the more complicated it is, the harder they are to sustain over time. He recognized
different businesses, although they may have the same size office space, have different revenue models.
Some people with an upstairs office have different opinions about the value of promotions for downtown
Edmonds. That is one of the things that will be worked on, what makes the most sense for this district at
this time. Councilmember Nand thanked Uncommon Bridges for bringing their expertise to Edmonds and
Ms. Koenig and Mr. Tatum for their hard work.
Council President Olson commented the Edmonds City Council was at the Shoreline City Council last night
and they asked the secret to Edmonds’ desirable and vitalized downtown. The first thing that came to mind
in the conversation was the BID and the work they have done. She suggested to Mr. Scott that Shoreline,
may be a potential customer. With regard to things other BIDs do that were highlighted in the presentation,
she noted a lot of those are achieved through private/public partnership; for example, the flower baskets are
donated, parks staff work on the flower baskets with help from the garden clubs which allows the City to
use the budget for other offerings. She offered a shout out to those private entities as well as the numerous
events the Chamber of Commerce does which means the BID does not have to do as many events and it
still benefit from the gatherings that happens downtown. Due to the City’s current tight budget, the
assessments targeting that area may be more valuable to business owners than they were in the past because
the City may not be able to do much in the short term. She assured Mr. Tatum that the extended agenda is
only a planning tool, the timeframes for coming to council will be noted, but it can be flexible.
Councilmember Paine said it’s always interesting to hear what is going on with BID. She asked if City
funds were being used for the BID evaluation or was it entirely funded by dues from BID members. Mr.
Tatum answered it is split between the City and the BID, 2/3 and 1/3; it is a relatively small contract for
this type of work. Councilmember Paine commented it was interesting to see that there were petitions,
relaying information from the Municipal Research Service Center (MRSC) that indicated there were two
ways BIDS are formed, via petition with either a 60% or 50% threshold. Mr. Scott answered the Washington
RCW that references BIA describes a process that has a petition with a threshold of 60% of the assessment.
Every city attorney he has consulted has been of the same mind, that the city’s own charter gives them the
power to form a BID and the city does not need to rely on the state law and most cities do not. If the BID
is formed by petition and the petition becomes legally part of the adoption process, someone could challenge
whether the petition process was done properly which the city would have to defend even though they were
not responsible for the petition process. Most cities adopt BIDs by resolution, but some cities want to do
the petition anyway to show support which is what Seattle does.
Councilmember Dotsch relayed she has heard one of the challenges in Edmonds is there are both open door
and by appointment businesses and there are challenges for business without a presence on the street front.
She believed a vibrant downtown includes all services, but they may not be equal. Ms. Koenig answered
assessments are different for by appointment versus open door businesses. With regard to BID expanding,
Councilmember Dotsch questioned how it could expand beyond the downtown core. Edmonds has certain
traffic patterns where businesses tend to proliferate and expanding further out is always a challenge, but
she was excited about opportunities to expand the BID beyond the existing core.
Councilmember Chen commented the BID has done a lot of good for the City. He referred to potential
future opportunities with hubs and centers in the comprehensive plan and zoning code update. He saw an
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opportunity to form BIDs in other areas, using the downtown BID as a model, such as Highway 99 and
other centers and hubs.
Council President Olson referred to the comment about the charter giving the council authority, pointing
out Edmonds is a code city not charter city. She asked City Attorney Jeff Taraday to weigh in on the
applicability of what was said. Mr. Taraday said as a non-charter code city, the City has home rule authority
which is basically it can do anything that is not prohibited by the general laws of the State of Washington.
3. HIGHWAY 99 OFFICE INFORMATION BRIEF
Community, Culture & Economic Development Director Todd Tatum said he was here at Council President
Olson’s request as the council has not had a comprehensive update on the Neighborhood City Hall (NCH)
since it opened. Although happy to take questions, he was not in a position to say exactly how the space
would exist in the next six months or five years. Not because he was withholding information, but like most
programs and services in the City, the right mix of services, locations and organization structure to address
residents’ needs are being considered and there is more conversation to come on this space. He reviewed:
• Background
o Signed lease in December 2021
o Took possession on January 7, 2021
o Lease term started 90 days after
o When opened, housed community court, Edmonds Police community engagement officer and
front desk staff
o Lease term is 36 months (April 2025) with option to extend
• NCH Financials – 2024 Budget*
o Expect to spend approximately $146,000 in 2024
• Activities that occur in the space
o DSHS Mobile Unit
o WorkSource
o Phone clinics
o 211 tabling to connect to services
o Human services and social worker hold meetings with individuals
o Community Health Plan of Washington
o Community Court
Monday afternoons 1-4:30
o DVMRT Classes
One weekday evening/week
o 140 unique walk-in visitors in the first six months of 2024, 83% seeking assistance (does not
include individuals participating in the above activities)
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Staff allocated hours: 9-4 Tues – Thurs
• Physical space over time
Sign installation Information on door
211 tabling Designated space for police
Community court space
Door separating police workspace
• Leadership and Organizational Structure
o Community Services established the office
o Discussion in 2022 and 2023 on where to ultimately house it organizationally
o 2024/2025 need to make decisions on lease renewal
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Councilmember Nand thanked the administration for allowing a community group she is part of to have
access to the space. It was her first time in the space and she saw incredible potential for a city hall/municipal
government outpost on Highway 99. One of the attendees of the community meeting commented it was
great to be able to walk to the office on Highway 99 as residents of southeast Edmonds typically have to
come to downtown Edmonds to access community services. When thinking about ways to utilize the space
in the future, she wondered if it would be possible to have OPMA-noticed board or commission meetings
in the space such as planning board or the mayor’s climate protection committee and if there was Zoom
capability or if that could be added. Mr. Tatum advised the Economic Development Commission recently
held a publicly noticed, hybrid meeting in the community court space. Councilmember Nand asked if
holding meetings in that space could assist in recruiting people for boards, committees and commission
who are outside of the traditional networks. Mr. Tatum said he did not have a strong opinion on that.
Councilmember Nand said one of the community members who met to discuss issues related to Highway
99 inquired whether that space could be utilized as a mailstop for unhoused people. She asked if that could
be added to the community services that are provided. Mr. Tatum answered that is an interesting idea, but
he was not sure about the legality or the process for that; it will depend on how the space transforms and is
managed. Councilmember Nand commented there are a lot of exciting possibilities for that space.
Councilmember Eck asked how many days and hours per week the office was open. Mr. Tatum answered
Tuesday – Thursday, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Councilmember Eck commented 140 unique walk-ins in the first 6
months is pretty significant as it does not include people who come back repeatedly. She asked if Mr. Tatum
felt the space was optimal for these types of service. Mr. Tatum answered the location in the community is
pretty good. When the space opened, there was not a lot of certainty about the types of visitors or activities.
The space has a number of challenges; the intent has been to make it compatible for police, the courts and
human services, but it does not work well for any type of groupings occurring at the same time. The actual
configuration, layout and limitations of the space are a challenge.
Councilmember Chen commented based on the list of activities, it is a very valuable space, but considering
it is only used three days out of five, there is some excess capacity. In his personal observation, cramming
so many services such as police, community court and other functions into the limited space creates
challenges. When the idea for this space first came up, his thought was to use it for a police substation due
to the needs in that area. If the City decides to use its limited resources in this way, they need to be spent
on the biggest need in that area which is public safety. If the City decided to extend the lease, he strongly
suggested returning to the public safety aspect and utilizing it more fully.
Councilmember Paine asked if the space is used three days/week for human services and an additional day
for community court. Mr. Tatum agreed it was used for community court on Mondays. Councilmember
Paine commented it is an interesting space with some benefits and limitations. She asked if the space could
be utilized as a hub for the business community along Highway 99 where the City could offer economic
touchpoints in ways that are meaningful for those businesses, while still retaining community court, human
services and the walk in services. She recognized it may not be the perfect space for that, but she would
like to have space to interact with the business community. Mr. Tatum said one of the things the City is
trying to do is rebuild connections with the Washington Small Business Development Council and the
Small Business Administration who provide a lot of clinics and have done those in Edmonds at the library
or city hall. If that space is maintained, there would be an opportunity to bring those clinics and technical
support that those organizations offer to that area.
Councilmember Paine asked if would be an opportunity to create a space for conferences with business
owners. She recalled when visiting Federal Way, their staff knocked on doors to create business
relationships and learn about the community’s needs. She asked if that would possible in that space. Mr.
Tatum answered that is a good idea and needs to be included in the conversation about where to go next.
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Councilmember Nand asked given the proximity to Highway 99, what is the potential for the space to be
utilized during extreme weather events such as extreme heat and could it be adapted for overnight shelter
during extreme cold when human life is endangered. Mr. Tatum answered that has not been considered in
depth; it is something that could be considered if the City retains that space. One of the challenges is staffing
such a use; when that has been considered in the past, questions include which job classifications would do
that, which department has the hours, etc. He summarized there is a staff cost and potential challenges with
that type of work, but it is worth considering when options for the future are considered. Councilmember
Nand commented there are community organizations and foundations that the City could potentially partner
with.
Councilmember Nand asked how access could be provided if councilmembers wanted to hold office hours
in the neighborhood city hall and minimize impact on staffing such as key access. Mr. Tatum suggested if
that is something councilmembers are interested in doing, to reach out to him and he will help determine
whether it is within the range of possibility., Councilmember Nand asked if there was time the space was
not being utilized by staff whether it could rented by the community similar to what the library does. Mr.
Tatum answered that may be a possibility, but that would require staff and a program to manage it which
is a challenge with the current 21 hours of staff time.
Council President Olson commented the presentation was very comprehensive and provided good insight
into the evolution and services that have been found to be of value to the community. Regardless of what
decisions are made regarding the space, the community has learned what services are of value and to ensure
those are addressed in one way or another.
Councilmember Dotsch asked about the safety of the office for those who work there or are in the space.
She recalled hearing there were challenges when it first opened. Mr. Tatum answered he could not recall a
time when the police have been called to the space for an incident. The door is open; staff can be in a
vulnerable position depending on who comes in. The type of clientele requires someone who is used to
dealing with people who are struggling or in crisis. Councilmember Dotsch asked if the person staffing the
office has training in that, if it was a requirement in their job description, or did the City just get lucky and
the staff member had that experience. Mr. Tatum said the person has been through de-escalation training,
has worked with this population in the past, and the City did luck out finding an incredibly talented and
dedicated staff member. If there was a need to fill that position again, the job description would need to be
rewritten to specify the requirements.
Councilmember Dotsch asked how often police officers utilize the space. Mr. Tatum said he was unable to
provide an actual number of hours, they do a little paperwork in the space and/or use the restroom, but it
has not been a place where they spend a tremendous amount of time. Councilmember Dotsch asked if the
police have a need for that space. Mr. Tatum answered it is used less than originally envisioned.
5. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT, TO
APPROVE THE AGENDA IN CONTENT AND ORDER. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Gordon Black, Edmonds, board member, North Sound Bicycle Advocates, commended the City for
passing a Complete Streets ordinance. In the effort to reduce carbon emissions, cars are the largest source
of carbon emissions in Edmonds. It is important to see bike lanes as part of a network, yet it is currently a
highly fragmented network where bike lanes end suddenly or do not exist. Eastbound bike lanes belong on
Main Street for the same reason that I-5 does not become a gravel track when one reaches Northgate. Bike
lanes on Main Street are a necessary part of the network the City is designing to make cycling safer and
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more appealing for a larger group of cyclists. In surveys examining why more Americans do not use bikes
for trips of 1-3 miles, around 40% of the respondents say it is because they perceive roads and streets as
unwelcoming and unsafe. Putting bike lanes on the uphill side of Main Street from 6th to 9th challenges that
perception because those bike lanes will make cycling safer for a large group of people. With the recent
installation of bike lanes on 9th/100th from Walnut to Firdale, despite the dire predictions of issues, drivers
have adjusted to the changes and as a bike rider, he assured that road is now much safer and he sees many
more cyclists using it. Change can be hard, but he was confident Edmonds residents will adjust to an uphill
bike lane on Main Street for those three blocks. It is an incremental step in the grand scheme to create an
actual network of safer, more welcoming bike routes in Edmonds that will help reduce reliance on cars for
short trips. He summarized it should be considered an investment for the future.
Bill Derry, Edmonds, spoke regarding lot coverage, recalling discussion at the planning board about
changing the ordinance related to residential lot coverage to accommodate additional accessory dwelling
units (ADU). He supports additional ADUs but was concerned about increasing lot coverage. He suggested
in further discussions on the topic, having a companion requirement for equal amounts of vegetated
pervious surface in order to have green spaces as well as areas where stormwater can be infiltrated.
Robert Burnhoff, Edmonds, referred to a problem that occurred where Perrinville Creek enters Puget
Sound in front of the home at 8229 Talbot Road. He has been informed by a stormwater engineer that there
is a perforation in the rusted out metal that goes under the railroad tracks and enters Puget Sound. Its shape
is also altered and the way it protrudes up shows the weight of the extra ballast from the railroad rock has
changed it tremendously. The stormwater engineer indicated it was not if there would be a failure, but when.
He relayed Council President Olson has spoken with the stormwater engineer on this issue and he
questioned why something hadn’t been done, fearing an event like what occurred in East Palestine, Ohio,
could occur at any moment.
Roger Pence, Edmonds, said he has been trying to follow the City’s budget crisis and the response of the
Blue Ribbon Panel and has been unable to find any of the Blue Ribbon Panel’s work other than the press
release regarding creation of the panel. He suggested the panel’s report be posted on the City’s website.
The 32 page report can be found in the July 9, 2024 city council agenda packet, however, most citizens do
not know that. He urged the City to be stop playing “hide the ball” with that information.
Riaz Kahn commented crime in Edmonds is increasing, the housing crisis is escalating and red light
cameras are being installed. He expressed support for the Asian Service Center and invited the public to the
Dragon Boat Festival on August 1. The Asian Service Cener helps seniors with healthcare issues. The center
also helps youth, the foundation and future leaders of the community, by offering leadership classes.
Robert Manciu, Edmonds, expressed his strong support for the proposed ban on backyard breeding in
Edmonds. Backyard breeding, the practice of breeding animals on a small scale, often by individuals
without proper oversight or expertise, has significant negative consequences for the City. These impact
include:
Minimal welfare concerns - backyard breeding often results in poor living conditions for the
animals. Without property veterinary care, nutrition and socialization animal suffer. Many are kept
in cramped and unsanitary conditions leading to health issues and suffering.
Overpopulation - unregulated breeding contributes to the overpopulation of pets which in turn
overwhelms local shelters and rescue organizations. Many of the animals end up being euthanized
or living in shelters for extended periods.
Public health and safety - poor breeding practices can lead to the spread of diseases among animals
and potentially to humans. Additionally, animals bred without proper socialization and care may
exhibit behavioral problems posing safety risks to the community.
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Community resources - dealing with the consequences of backyard breeding constrains city
resources. Animal control, shelters, and rescue organizations spend significant time and money
addressing issues that arise from irresponsible breeding.
By enacting a ban on backyard breeding, Edmonds can demonstrate its commitment to animal welfare and
public health. It would ensure that all breeding operations adhere to strict standards promoting the humane
treatment of animal and reducing the burden on local resources. He urged the council to consider the long
term benefits of such a ban; the community will be healthier, safer, and more compassionate as a result.
Daniel Pejovic, Edmonds, relayed his family has lived on 203rd Place SW off 84th Ave W for nearly 30
years, a street that has never been paved, is bumpy, unkept, and full of expensive to fix potholes. During
the cold season, it remains icy and snowy long after nearly all other roads in Edmonds are defrosted and
void of snow and ice. He begged the City for a plan to pave 203rd Place SW; it is the right thing to do as
everyone on the street are hardworking Edmonds taxpayers who have lived there for decades because they
love Edmonds.
7. RECEIVED FOR FILING
1. CLAIM FOR DAMAGES
2. WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS
3. JUNE 2024 QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT
4. DRAFT FINANCIAL POLICIES
5. OUTSIDE BOARDS AND COMMITTEE REPORTS
8. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT, TO
APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. The agenda items
approved are as follows:
1. APPROVAL OF SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 2, 2024
2. APPROVAL OF SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 9, 2024
3. APPROVAL OF REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 9, 2024
4. APPROVAL OF CLAIM CHECKS AND WIRE PAYMENTS
5. MATHAY BALLINGER PARK IMPROVEMENTS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT
6. CAR SHOW & OKTOBERFEST EVENT AGREEMENTS
7. AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN PARTICIPATION FORM RE KROGER OPIOID
SETTLEMENT
8. SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH NEW CINGULAR WIRELESS PCS, LLC
9. LEGAL ASSESSMENT COMMITTEE – ASSESSMENT QUESTIONS FOR CITY
ATTORNEY/PROSECUTOR
10. APPROVAL OF HAUL ROUTE AGREEMENT FOR MEADOWDALE BEACH PARK
ESTUARY RESTORATION PROJECT
11. APPROVAL OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE EDMONDS
MARSH ESTUARY PLANNING STUDY
12. ORDINANCE AMENDING AUTHORIZED EMPLOYEE POSITIONS
13. APPROVAL OF FINANCE DIRECTOR JOB DESCRIPTION AND REORGANIZATION
OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
14. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING MAYOR TO APPROVE SHARED LEAVE BEYOND
PERSONNEL POLICIES
15. APPROVAL OF COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE SECTIONS 4 & 5 CONSENT
AGENDA AND COUNCIL MEETINGS
16. APPROVAL OF DISPOSAL OF SURPLUS EQUIPMENT/CITY ASSETS
17. APPROVAL OF JOB DESCRIPTION FOR PERMITTING PROGRAM MANAGER
9. COUNCIL BUSINESS
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1. 2024 JULY BUDGET AMENDMENT ORDINANCE
Councilmember Eck expressed concern with proposed $200,000 Edmonds Homelessness Fund Transfer
and asked why this was proposed as part of the budget amendment rather than with all the things that could
be on the table for the budget. Mayor Rosen suggested staff provide their presentation so there is context
for the conversation.
Due to technical difficulties, Mayor Rosen declared a brief recess.
Deputy Administrative Services Director Kim Dunscombe reviewed the proposed 2024 July Budget
Amendments (packet page 342):
Building Plan Review and Inspection Professional Services
Technical structural inspections require use of a consultant. An ordinance was passed earlier this year
allowing the City to bill 100% of the pass through invoice. This amendment amends the appropriation
authority for the planning & development department and is budget neutral.
COUNCILMEMBER CHEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON, TO
APPROVE THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT.
Councilmember Paine inquired about the process, expressing her preference to individually consider and
approve the amendments. She observed most permit-related items have a revenue aspect and asked if that
was being considered. Ms. Dunscombe answered the permit applicant pays a deposit; as the City receives
invoices from the third party vendor, they are reconciled and when funds provided by the deposit are no
longer sufficient, an additional deposit is requested from the permit applicant.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Library Repairs Interfund Transfer
Transfer funds from the Building Maintenance Fund to the General Fund to pay for the library repairs
caused by water damage and some improvements. The City’s share of the project is $408,000.
Councilmember Paine asked whether this was included in the 2024 budget. Ms. Dunscombe answered it
was not included in the budget; the request is to use the bond maintenance fund (Fund 016) to pay for this
expense.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT, TO
APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR LIBRARY REPAIRS.
Council President Olson explained there was an extensive conversation at council committee regarding the
original expectation that this would be covered by insurance and whether this should be shared with Sno-
Isle, neither of which were possible. She summarized the use of bond maintenance funds was an appropriate
remedy to cover these expenses.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Edmonds Homelessness Fund Transfer
Proposed transfer of the balance of the Edmonds Homelessness Fund (Fund 018) into the General Fund.
COUNCILMEMBER NAND MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER PAINE, TO RETAIN
THE $200,000 PRESENTLY IN THE 018 AND DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATION TO SPEND
THESE FUNDS TOWARDS EXTREME WEATHER EVENT EMERGENCY NEEDS FOR OUR
HOMELESS POPULATION IN EDMONDS DURING EXTREME HEAT AND EXTREME COLD.
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Councilmember Nand said she has asked multiple administrations in multiple budget cycles to spend the
money in Fund 018 to help people experiencing the crisis of homelessness. There are many ways staff could
choose to utilize these fund if the council approves using the funds for the homelessness crisis instead of
putting them back into the General Fund. For example, block grants could be provided to organizations
such as the Jean Kim Foundation or other organizations such as Volunteers of America who provide
extreme weather response in neighboring cities such as Lynnwood. There is space on Highway 99;
potentially the City could host a cooling tent during extreme heat on the America’s Best Hotel site if
Snohomish County provided access to the parking lot. There is a lot that could be done to prevent the loss
of human life due to extreme weather fluctuations in the region due to climate change which results in
extreme heat, extreme cold and very dangerous storms. One of the core functions of government is to
preserve human life. Assisting vulnerable people would be a worthy use of these funds.
Councilmember Chen said he understood the City’s budget situation, but there is a need in the community
and as stated by Councilmember Nand, there are many ways to deploy these funds. His preference was to
retain the $200,000 and look for ways to spend it meaningfully. Extreme weather shelters may be a good
use, but there are other ways and he preferred to rely on human services professionals to identify those
opportunities and not confine it to such as narrow use. This $200,000 will not solve the problem of
homelessness and it will not replenish the $12 million reserve fund.
Councilmember Eck concurred with Councilmembers Chen and Nand, commenting it seemed early to go
after this fund when there are other things that could be look at as a whole. These funds haven’t been used
in the past and the City has human services staff who could get it out to the community such as keeping
low to no income seniors in their homes, getting families out of their cars and into temporary shelter, rental
assistance, etc., things that would have tangible benefits to the community. Transferring these funds rather
than looking at everything in total felt premature, and came at a significant expense to the community. She
encouraged the council to table this amendment for now and look at other potential funding rather than
hurting the community.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT, TO
AMEND TO REMOVE THE CAVEAT ON HOW IT WOULD BE SPENT.
Council President Olson said the amendment would strike the portion of the motion to direct the
administration to spend the money in any particular way. The human services director has been asked on
more than one occasion whether the cold weather scenario was being addressed in the community and has
stated on more than one occasion that it was. Specifying that use is too prescriptive, staff knows what is
needed in the community. If the council chooses to spend these funds, it should be done in consultation
with staff and not council directing a specific use.
Councilmember Paine said she was unsure how this budget amendment originated, this is not a time for the
council to remove funding for a much needed program that serves many people. There is a need for housing
for the unhoused and to respond quickly to the needs in the community. She recognize these funds were not
programmed in the past because in prior years, there were ARPA funds to support human services
programming. Now, these funds will be the last remaining backstop to address human services in Edmonds.
She was hopeful funds could be identified for additional thoughtful programming in the next couple years
and wanted to ensure there was funding available for residents in need this year and next year. She wanted
an opportunity to discuss use of these funds at a specific meeting or during the budget process.
Council President Olson raised a point of order, stating Councilmember Paine was not speaking to the
amendment. Councilmember Paine said she was getting to that, she did not think this was a viable budget
amendment, did not understand why it was proposed, and wanted more council discussion.
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Councilmember Nand said she would be willing to support the amendment to her motion, but planned to
offer an amendment to direct staff to bring forward proposals to spend the money within 24 months. It has
been very frustrating to see people experiencing the crisis of homelessness in the community, knowing
there is $200,000 sitting untouched in the City’s coffers when it could be used to help people in desperate
need.
AMENDMENT CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILMEMBER NAND MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER PAINE, TO AMEND
TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING FORWARD DECISION PACKAGES TO EXPEND THE FUNDS
WITHIN 24 MONTHS.
Councilmember Tibbott did not support the amendment.
Councilmember Nand said she did not want to direct the work of the human services department or who
they chose to partner with; she was trying to encourage spending of the funds within a certain timeframe
rather than having it remain untouched year after year.
AMENDMENT FAILED (3-4) COUNCILMEMBERS ECK, PAINE AND NAND VOTING YES.
Council President Olson recalled the fund originally came from the General Fund and asked what year the
funds were allocated. Ms. Dunscome answered early 2022. Council President Olson observed the money
has sat untouched due to the availability of ARPA funds during that time. There hasn’t been an urgent need
for the funds and they have remained untouched for several fiscal years. As the funds came from the General
Fund and the City is having a General Fund crisis, it would be appropriate to return the funds to the General
Fund for the short term crisis. She encouraged the council to be receptive when staff makes a proposal to
fund an urgent need.
Councilmember Dotsch observed if the council denies the amendment, the funds would remain in in the
Homelessness Fund.
Councilmember Nand disputed the characterization that there hasn’t been an urgent need in the community
to use the funds. A homelessness crisis exists in Edmonds and there are numerous people every day who
could benefit from these funds, not just people who are camping near Lake Ballinger, but people who are
car camping, couch surfing, housing unstable, close to being unstable, etc. Spending these funds in the
community could do a lot of good; her personal preference would be an extreme weather event response in
Edmonds along Highway 99 instead of telling people who are homeless or living in unheated/uncooled
spaces to go to other jurisdictions such as Lynnwood to seek shelter from extreme weather. There are
numerous ways these funds can be used; it is impossible to place a dollar value on human life. Due to the
crisis of homelessness and extreme weather events, there is the potential for people to die of exposure or
heat stroke. She strongly encourage councilmembers to retain the $200,000 in the Homelessness Response
Fund and actually use it for the urgent need of homelessness response.
As she has some knowledge in this field, Councilmember Eck found it difficult to believe there hasn’t been
a need and wondered about the criteria used to distribute the funds. In addition to homelessness and families
living in cars, these funds can be used to prevent people from becoming homeless. For example there is a
significant senior population who could use more utility assistance than the City offers or more mortgage
assistance. There are extremely worthwhile things the City is not doing that could be funded with this
money.
Councilmember Paine reiterated these funds need to remain in the Edmonds Homeless Response Fund and
not transferred into the General Fund. If there is an effort to sweep funds into the General Fund, that needs
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to be looked at comprehensively and not looking at just one fund. She expressed support for the motion to
retain the funds in Homelessness Response Fund.
Councilmember Dotsch said she was okay with retaining the money in the Edmonds Homeless Response
Fund. She asked for information regarding how the ARPA funds were distributed to those in need, how
beneficial it was, and how much went to those in need versus other costs. There are a lot of ideas, but
$200,000 is not a lot of money and would be spent fairly quickly.
MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED CARRIED (6-1), COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON VOTING NO.
Parking Enforcement Officer Transfer
Transfer $80,000 from the Employee Parking Permit Fund to the General Fund to cover a portion of
enforcement officer’s salary and benefits in 2024.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CHEN, TO
APPROVE THIS DECISION PACKAGE.
Council President Olson referred to an email from a resident requesting the council ensure the City still has
the administrative ability to run that program. Ms. Dunscombe explained the $80,000 comes from fund
balance. Planned expenditures in 2024 which include $1000 for supplies and $25,000 for the clerk’s time
will be spent as planned.
Councilmember Paine asked if this was a request from the police department due to inadequately funding
the parking enforcement officer during the budget. Ms. Dunscombe said she brought this amendment to the
police department as a way of solving their current budget problem. Councilmember Paine asked if that
position was not adequately funded in the 2024 budget. Ms. Dunscombe answered that specific position
was funded, by the time the budget process was completed, the police contract had already been settled and
the adjustments for that position were know. The police department as a whole is having difficulty in 2024
and staff was asked to identify ways to get through 2024. Funds has been accumulating in the Employee
Parking Fund balance for the past few years. Public works did not have any plans to do any traffic studies
in the near future which is another option for using that fund balance so she proposed this amendment as a
way to help the police department’s budget in 2024.
Councilmember Paine said she would rather use the funds for traffic studies. At least a dozen neighborhoods
have complained about speeding and violations; traffic studies can be conducted to illustrate conditions in
those neighborhoods. She will not support this amendment although she appreciated Ms. Dunscombe’s
diligence in identifying the potential amendment. The parking enforcement officer was adequately funded
in the budget, but some of the neighborhood traffic studies were not.
Councilmember Dotsch asked if the parking enforcement officer would not funded without this transfer.
Ms. Dunscombe responded all departments are trying to figure out how to get through 2024 and ending the
year with a $2.2 million fund balance. As Mayor Rosen has said, staff is looking under every cushion and
this was one of those. This money is restricted by code, all moneys in this fund shall be used solely and
exclusively for the administration of the employee parking permit program created by this chapter for costs
associated with parking enforcement. The parking enforcement officer is one of the few eligible uses.
Restricted funds need to be spent as soon as possible and this was an opportunity to transfer the $80,000
fund balance.
Councilmember Dotsch asked what fund that would be transferred from. Ms. Dunscombe answered Fund
121. Currently when someone purchases an employee parking permit, that money is receipted into a special,
restricted fund, Fund 121. Only $1,000 for supplies and $25,000 to support the clerk’s time has been
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programmed to be spent from that fund. Over time, extra money has accumulated in the fund balance and
is now up to $80,000.
With regard to traffic studies, Council President Olson recalled neighborhoods submit petitions which are
ranked to determine which projects go forward. She recalled there were projects that would be going
forward this year. City Engineer Rob English assumed Council President Olson was referring to the traffic
calming program; the request for projects has gone out and staff is in the process of reviewing applications.
That program is related to speed, not parking, and he was unsure it would qualify for this funding source.
Council President Olson expressed support for the amendment.
MOTION CARRIED (6-1), COUNCILMEMBER PAINE VOTING NO.
ARPA Funds for Fire Contract
Allocate remaining ARPA funds to pay for the fire district contract. This amendment would use $300,000
dedicated to the community relief funds and apply $619,000 ($300,000 + $250,000 in ARPA funds left
unallocated at the conclusion of the budget process + interest in that fund) to the fire contract. All ARPA
funds must be spent by the end of 2024; this amendment would appropriate all the ARPA funds in Fund
142 to the fire contract.
COUNCILMEMBER CHEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ECK, TO APPROVE
THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT TO TRANSFER THE REMAINING ARPA FUNDS INCLUDING
INTEREST TO COVER FIRE SERVICES.
Councilmember Chen commented, as Ms. Dunscombe pointed out, ARPA funds need to be spent by the
end of 2024 and the City is facing a budget crisis. The City already spent $6.5 million in ARPA funds for
fire services; this is an opportunity to look under the cushions for money for this purpose. It is the right
thing to do at the right moment.
Councilmember Paine referred to page 25 in the 2024 budget book which indicates the balance was just
under $65,000. She asked where the other $300,000 came from. Ms. Dunscombe answered the $300,000
was already appropriated for a specific purpose so it is possible it is not included on the page
Councilmember Paine referenced. From a accounting perspective, it is confusing to show fund balance in
that fund because the revenue cannot be recognized until it is spent. It may be sitting on the balance sheet
and is unspent.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mee Property Parkland Acquisition
Capital budget amendment to allow acquisition of the one acre Mee property. In February 2024, the council
approved this property acquisition. It was not in the 2024 budget so this is to catch the budget up with a
previous council decision.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER PAINE, TO
APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT REGARDING THE MEE PROPERTY. MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2024 Pavement Preservation Program
Request an additional $100,000 for the 2024 Overlay Construction Contract, $50,000 from REET 1 and
$50,000 from REET 2.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT, TO
APPROVE THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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Edmonds Marsh Estuary Planning Study
City council approved a grant agreement with the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation to complete a
planning study for Edmonds Marsh. This budget amendment will program the anticipated expenditures and
grant revenue in 2024.
COUNCILMEMBER PAINE MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NAND, TO
APPROVE THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Perrinville Sediment Maintenance Permit Assistance and Mitigation Planning
Program stormwater utility funding for permit assistance related to SEPA and securing a permit from the
Department of Fish and Wildlife to perform maintenance of the existing diversion structure in lower
Perrinville Creek.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CHEN, TO
APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Council President Olson asked the best way to revise the budget ordinance to reflect removal of the one
amendment. City Attorney Jeff Taraday answered one option would be to have Ms. Dunscombe revise the
ordinance, otherwise the council could authorize staff to conform the budget ordinance to the motions that
were made and approve the ordinance accordingly. The council is accustomed to seeing the precise text of
what they are approving, but he was unsure if Ms. Dunscombe could amend the ordinance tonight. Council
President Olson said she was comfortable with directing staff to conform the ordinance as it was a fairly
simple change to remove one proposed amendment. Ms. Dunscombe offered to amend the ordinance for
consideration later on the agenda.
2. MAIN STREET OVERLAY PROJECT SCOPE OF WORK
Acting Public Works Director Rob English introduced Project Manager Ryan Hague and Transportation
Engineer Bertrand Hauss, explaining during discussion of bid results at last week’s PPW Committee
meeting, the committee requested a presentation to full council regarding the project, specifically the
eastbound uphill bike lane and potentially replacing it with a bike sharrow. He described the process of
adding that feature to the project:
• Area Map
o Two projects planned on Main Street between 6th and 9th.
The portion between 6th and 8th has a federal grant
- Bids for that project were rejected earlier on the agenda and the project will be rebid.
The portion between 8th and 9th is part of the locally funded overlay project.
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- Council awarded the overlay program Granite Construction earlier this year. Their
schedule is to do the work, grind, overlay and striping, the week of August 26.
• Complete Streets
o City Ordinance #3842 (ECDC 18.80.015) Complete Streets Ordinance - states that:
City of Edmonds will plan for, design, and construct all new transportation projects to
provide appropriate accommodation for pedestrians, bicyclists, transit users, and persons
of all abilities.
Purpose of Complete Streets is to evaluate transportation projects for the design to
accommodate all users, ages and abilities
Benefits of Complete Streets include reduce emissions via increased alternate modes of
transportation, potentially calming traffic via reduced travel lane widths
In 2022 the State enacted guidance for WSDOT for state routes on a city street for projects
costing over $500,000, consideration has to be given to implementing Complete Streets
principles. That is why the council took action last year to approve Complete Street
concepts on Highway 99 last year.
Complete Streets is an important part of the design effort for transportation projects
Program Manager Ryan Hague reviewed:
• Existing Section
• Proposed Section
o Narrowing lane width makes roadway safer by lower road speeds
Confirmed via numerous studies
- In November 2023, Johns Hopkins University released a study, “Narrow Lanes Save
Lives” that confirmed narrow lanes reduce speeds and crashes. Johns Hopkins
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recommends 9’ lane widths. The author of the study Assistant Professor of
Environmental Health and Engineering at Johns Hopkins Shima Hamidi, PhD, says
drivers are less concerned about the speed limit and more concerned about the context
of the street when determining their driving speed. In other words, on streets with trees,
pedestrians, bike lane and bikes, drivers feel less safe driving fast and will driver slower
regardless of the speed limit.
• Benefits of sharrows and conventional bike lanes
Mr. English reviewed:
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o Provides future connection to bike lane network on 9th
o Frances Anderson Center, a significant community gathering place, is located in this stretch of
roadway which this Complete Street facility will help support
• What happens to grant funding if the uphill bike lane is removed from the project and replaced with
a bike sharrow?
o No change in grant funds
o Providing no bike facility affects State TIB funding of $2,500
• How does the lane configuration align at 6th & 9th?
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o 6th & Main Stripe Transition
• 9th & Main Stripe Transition
o Similar condition at 76th & 220th where there was insufficient right-of-way width to
accommodate bike lanes through the intersection. When future improvements are made, the
bike lane will continue through the intersections.
COUNCILMEMBER NAND MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER PAINE, TO
PROCEED WITH THE MAIN STREET OVERLAY PROJECT SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDING
AN EASTBOUND UPHILL BIKE LANE.
Councilmember Nand described her experience where a unicycle rushed between her car and the parked
cars and she was terrified he would fall in front of her car. As a motorist, she sees the need for a bike lane
and enthusiastically supports staff’s recommendation to add it.
Council President Olson thanked staff, recognizing council has asked for a lot of explanation, reexplanation
and pictures, and they delivered. She had been concerned about the alignment of the middle lanes and
thanked staff for the pictures that show it will not be an issue. She hoped the overlay contract would include
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a clause about returning the surface to smooth in case there are striping changes. She requested when the
comprehensive plan is presented to the public, instead of an online or in person open house, providing a
tour where the public can be on site and see the proposed transportation changes. Mr. English said he will
make note of the suggestion for a tour with the transportation plan update. One of the differences between
this and the previous project is this project includes an overlay so the pavement surface will be new.
Councilmember Paine expressed support for the recommendation for bike lanes from 6th to 9th on Main
Street. The council talks about safety on a regular basis and that includes people who are not in vehicles
such as pedestrians, people using wheelchairs, bicyclists, etc. She agreed with Mr. Hauge that a busy
streetscape with trees, bike lanes, etc. make drivers pay attention. She reiterated her support for the bike
lanes which also support climate protection by possibly reducing vehicle miles traveled.
Councilmember Tibbott said he was still having trouble with a bike lane on 2½ blocks of Main where
sharrows current exist on the remainder of the street and there are no bike lanes east of 9th. If bike lanes are
added to the east on Main in the future, 4 streets between 9th and 220th will have bike lanes all the way up
the hill. He referred to the midline graphic at 6th, commenting there is no illustration of the midline west of
6th. Mr. Hague assured they line up perfectly.
COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DOTSCH, TO
AMEND TO ABANDON THE BIKE LANE DESIGN AND ADD A 2-FOOT BUFFER AT THE EDGE
OF THE PARKING INSTEAD AND ADD SHARROWS ON THAT SECTION OF MAIN STREET.
Councilmember Tibbott explained his rationale for the amendment was it matches what is happening on
Main Street already. This is going out to bid, yet the City does not have a comprehensive bike lane plan
and there is no evidence this will result in a bike lane eastbound on Main Street past 9th. He wanted to see
a comprehensive bike lane plan before committing to a bike lane on 2½ blocks.
Councilmember Dotsch commented she was still unclear with the 2-foot shift, shifting cars over on 2½
blocks is quite abrupt. That stretch of roadway from Main 6th to 8th is Frances Anderson Center central;
people are parking and opening car doors constantly. The need for pedestrian safety in that area is very
high, and there needs to be a buffer for car doors. She drove that stretch today envisioning shifting the lane
2 feet north closer to parked cars and encountered three people opening their car doors as she was driving
by. This is a unique spot, and accommodating all users in the most perfect way possible detracts from the
safety of pedestrians and how people use that corridor. She envisioned shifting over 2 feet when people are
used to driving straight will create problems. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of accidents in that area with
the existing 4-foot flex space on either side for doors, bike, kids running around the car, etc. A safer way
for cars, bikes, and pedestrian and continuing with Complete Streets is a sharrow like what exists all the
way down the hill to the ferry. She expressed support for the amendment.
Councilmember Paine did not support the amendment as she preferred the design created by the engineers.
Councilmember Nand was unable to support the amendment, especially because she had a hard time
visualizing the impact the amendment would have on the proposed design. On packet page 364 (existing
section) it appears the inclusion of a bike lane would create a buffer between traffic and parked cars opening
their doors on the south side. In her terrifying experience today with the unicyclist, there was very little
space between her car and parked vehicles on Main Street. The redesign creates more space for everyone
to utilize this very popular street and she encouraged councilmembers to support staff’s recommendation.
If council was interested in a redesign, she suggested directing staff to render it so everyone can understand
exactly what is being proposed.
Councilmember Eck recognized a lot of research has been done, and studies show including infrastructure
and narrowing lanes makes it safer. She has seen for herself that narrower lanes slow traffic. She appreciated
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the expertise staff brings and the time they have spent on this design. Change is hard, but in trying to make
room for all modes of transportation, she could not support the amendment.
Councilmember Chen observed this project is to install bike lanes from 6th to 9th and asked if bike lanes
would be installed in the future from 9th to Five Corners and on to 76th to connect the rest of the City. Mr.
English answered in the 2009 and 2015 transportation plans, that bike route continued east to Five Corners.
In the transportation plan update, the draft bike network continues to show bike lanes to Five Corners. In
that stretch, the existing road is wide enough to accommodate bike lanes and can easily continue to Five
Corners. There are obviously grade issues, but there are also more e-bikes using bike facilities.
Councilmember Chen observed the potential to connect to 76th and the Interurban in the future. He liked
the proposed plan and appreciated the study, research and work that went into it.
Council President Olson said she has had some of the same concerns about the frequency of doors opening
on Main Street. She envisioned there was sufficient width to accommodate all these different functions.
Cars get impatient driving behind bikes that go slower when riding uphill so to the extent the width can
accommodate it, it is something that should be included on Main. Some studies recommend 9-foot lanes;
these will be 11 feet and 13 feet with a bike lane. She expressed support for the original proposal and did
not support the amendment.
Councilmember Dotsch reiterated there would be 2 feet less on the north side so there is more risk from
cars opening doors into traffic or bikes coming down the hill. With regard to 9th, unfortunately since the
bike lane was added, speeds have increased, and motorized vehicles are using the bike lane including
motorcycles. She recommended following up after these bike lanes are installed to study how they are being
use and whether speeds actually decreased. That needs to be studied in Edmonds and not from the
perspective of a study done somewhere else.
AMENDMENT FAILED (2-5), COUNCILMEMBERS TIBBOTT AND DOTSCH VOTING YES.
MAIN MOTION CARRIED (6-1), COUNCILMEMBER DOTSCH VOTING NO.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NAND, TO
EXTEND TO 10:30. MOTION CARRIED (6-1) COUNCILMEMBER TIBBOTT VOTING NO.
1. 2024 JULY BUDGET AMENDMENT ORDINANCE
Deputy Administrative Services Director Kim Dunscombe displayed the revised ordinance and described
where changes were made on Exhibit A to reduce General Fund revenue by $200,000 and remove the
$200,000 expenditure from the Edmonds Homeless Response Fund, on Exhibit B, in the Proposed
Amendment Ordinance # column, the revenue for the General Fund is reduced from $445,700 to $245,700;
on Exhibit C, the expenditure from Fund 018 is changed to 0; and on Exhibit D which reflects the $245,700
for Fund 001 revenue and 0 expenditure from Fund 018.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT OLSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NAND, TO
APPROVE ORDINANCE NO. 4363 AS REVISED BY DEPUTY DIRECTOR DUNSCOMBE.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. ORDINANCE AMENDING ECC 5.05 TO BAN THE DELIBERATE BREEDING AND
SALE OF COMPANION ANIMALS
Councilmember Nand explained when her bunny Arjun, whom she rescued from a meat breeder, died
unexpectedly in 2022, she decided to turn her grief into action. As a new councilmember at the time, she
was disheartened that not only does the City’s code not deter commercial animal breeding operations, ECC
5.05.020.B.4 states dogs whose owners maintain them for the sole purpose of commercial breeding are not
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required to be licensed. Under the City’s currently animal control chapter, ECC 5.05, the City signals to
potential breeders that not only is breeding permitted, but there is no need to license those animals as would
be required for domestic pets and only asks that they be kept kenneled and not running at large. She reached
out to the City’s Senior Animal Control Officer Jessica Gilginas who directed her to another Snohomish
County city, Bothell, that has taken affirmative steps to limit the amount of backyard breeding that occurs
in their jurisdiction. Everett has also banned the sale of cats and dogs within its city limits and directs that
only animals from a publicly controlled animal control agency or nonprofit animal welfare organization
shall be available for adoption from any retail pet store in its jurisdiction. The penalty for violating the
ordinance is $250/day.
Feeling inspired that other cities in Snohomish County find the bare minimum of animal welfare
requirements set forth in state law, RCW 16.52.310, that up to 50 dogs may be kept on any property as long
as they have enough space to turn around and at least one hour of exercise per day in use for commercial
breeding operations, Councilmember Nand explained she reached out to local animal welfare organizations
and animal rescue community to get their feedback. Overwhelmingly everyone she talked to that is involved
in animal rescue encouraged her to seek a ban on backyard breeding entirely. Everyone had horror stories
of finding neglected and abused animals in horrific circumstances on properties being bred by individuals
without the proper knowledge to treat these animals humanely. Like herself, many of them have rescued
animals bred for profit from small cages without food, water or adequate space. Animals living in these
circumstances which the law considers to be animal cruelty are rarely saved until the scale of suffering on
a particular property becomes so great that neighbors make nuisance complaints about all the suffering and
dying animals on the property.
As a councilmember, Councilmember Nand explained she began to look at the budgetary impact and strain
that uncontrolled backyard breeding inflicts on local animal welfare organizations like Progressive Animal
Welfare Society of Snohomish County (PAWS) which operates a companion animal shelter in Lynnwood.
These organizations are often tasked with rescuing these abused and medically fragile animals after dozens
or even hundreds have been bred due to uncontrolled backyard breeding. That is why she proposed that
Edmonds take action. Animals are paying the price for the cruelty that so often accompanies uncontrolled
backyard breeding and taxpayers and society are paying a heavy burden to impound, spay and neuter,
provide veterinary care, and try to adopt out millions of unwanted companion animals in shelters. Too often
perfectly healthy animals are euthanized due to lack of space. The three species of companion animals most
commonly surrendered to shelters in the United States are dogs, cats and rabbits.
Councilmember Nand proposed updating the City code to reflect current attitudes toward animal welfare
in the 21st century and ban the deliberate breeding of dogs, cats and rabbits for commercial purposes and
also ban the sale of these companion animals. To address a few misconceptions about her proposal that she
has heard, this would not ban people from choosing to breed their dogs, cats or rabbits and gifting or
rehoming these animals to their friends, families, etc. with a rehoming fee. Her proposal contains specific
carveouts for accidental litters and rehoming fees. This proposal is only targeting the commercial aspect of
deliberately breeding animals for sale.
COUNCILMEMBER NAND MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ECK, TO APPROVE
THE ORDINANCE ATTACHED AMENDING CHAPTER 5.05, ANIMAL CONTROL, TO BAN
THE DELIBERATE BREEDING, ADVERTISEMENT AND SALE OF COMPANION ANIMALS
FOR PROFIT IN EDMONDS, OPTION 1.
Councilmember Eck expressed support for the motion, commenting this is definitely the right way for
Edmonds to take a stance on this issue.
Councilmember Paine referred to the last sentence in Section 5.05.134.B, “Violation of this subsection by
any person or corporation shall be a civil violation, punishable by a fine of not more than two hundred fifty
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dollars ($250) per animal per day, and suggested deleting “not more than” so that the fine was $250 per
animal per day.
COUNCILMEMBER PAINE MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NAND, TO AMEND
TO STRIKE “NOT MORE THAN” SO THE FINE IS $250.
Councilmember Nand explained this provision was adapted from the City of Everett’s code. She had no
problem with the amendment, envisioning it would provide future flexibility in developing tiered fines. She
clarified this would not be a criminal charge, but a civilian fine imposed at the discretion of the animal
control officer, a tool in the animal control officer’s toolkit when they encounter problematic behavior
before it becomes a large scale animal hoarding situation.
Councilmember Paine recognized there is similar language in Section 5.05.134.A, but supported retain the
language “not more than $1000.”
AMENDMENT CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Council President Olson thanked Councilmember Nand for this very well thought out, constructed and
researched agenda item. The discussion between she and Councilmember Nand and members of the
community on this subject have been helpful in raising awareness regarding the number of animals available
for adoption and perhaps will encourage people to think twice before having a litter. However, she did not
personally think this was the right approach. Pet owners get a break in the fee when licensing a
spayed/neutered pet, and she suggested increasing the fee for a pet that is not spayed/neutered. Taking away
the option of having pets for sale is a little heavy handed and Chapter 5.05 does limit the number of domestic
pets to 5 and limits unweaned litters to 1. There are already limitations that prevent backyard breeding. Like
any code, there needs to be an awareness that a problem is occurring. She appreciated the time to think
about this subject and agreed there may be more than can be done, but did not personally feel this was the
appropriate course of action and will continue to ruminate on the proper course of action and possibly share
that in the future with Councilmember Nand if this ordinance does not pass.
Councilmember Chen thanked Councilmember Nand for her research and developing this proposal. He
asked how many backyard breeders had been identified within the City’s boundaries. Councilmember Nand
answered because this activity is not regulated in Edmonds, no one is taking a count. She has seen breeders
advertising dogs for sale with handmade on signs in the right-of-way as well as on Craigslist. She has
documented that information but did not include it in the packet to avoid unintentionally exposing someone
to harassment.
In reference to Council President Olson’s comment, she pointed out proposed Section 5.05.134.A states if
an animal is bred deliberately for the purpose of sale and the animal control officer choses to impose a fine,
if the individual chooses to have their animal spayed or neutered, the fine could be cured. This entire
legislation is pointed toward encouraging people to spay and neuter and not create excess animals to impose
an additional burden on already strained animal welfare and rescue organizations.
Councilmember Dotsch expressed appreciation for the information Councilmember Nand developed. She
asked how time this would add to the animal control officer’s job and whether the officer has time to enforce
it. She was concerned with adding to the animal control officers workload in view of the City’s budget
issues. Councilmember Nand said when she reached out to Senior Animal Control Officer Gilginas, she
originally suggested looking at Bothell’s code which limits production. There are different options; if a
property is attracting the attention of the animal control officer, it’s not due to an oops litter that the owner
is trying to rehome, but because the property is engaging in larger scale commercial breeding and attracting
the attention of the animal control officer due to complaints from neighbors. She included an email from
Officer Gilginas which included her recommendation regarding research and also mentioned that with the
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potential for increased density, the present code may be inadequate if a commercial breeding operation
were set up. There was a large scale breeding operation on 196th in the past that was shut down.
Councilmember Nand continued, although there is a perception that this behavior does not occur very often,
people are always coming up with ways to exploit animals for profit. For example, a jurisdiction recently
had to ban the commercial breeding of octopi. Having a law that says this activity is not permitted in
Edmonds gives the animal control officer a tool in their toolkit when doing outreach and education. This is
similar to the fireworks ban which was difficult to enforce until there was a fine. In looking at the budgetary
aspect, once an operation is set up, typically when a backyard breeder gets over their head, dozens or
hundreds of animals have been breed and it is the animal control officer’s duty to impound and transport
animals to the City designated shelter, house, provide medical care, euthanize, etc. which has a much bigger
budget impact to the City. There are few kill shelters in this area so animals could be at the shelter for a
long time. This behavior places a great financial burden on society when it goes unchecked.
Council President Olson referred to Section 5.05.128.B, animal cruelty, which states “an owner of an animal
is guilty of animal cruelty if the owners knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence, 1) fails to
provide the animal with necessary food…. abandons the animal…”, She suggested adding B.3 under animal
cruelty related to unethical serial breeding for profit that does not consider the health of the breeding animal.
Instead of penalizing the breeder, this would get to the core of animal cruelty and not regulate whether
people are breeding animals.
Councilmember Nand responded given the City has a staff of two animal control officers for a city of
43,000, the amount of investigation inherent in determining whether a breeder has engaged in cruel or serial
behavior might be too burdensome. It would be easier for the animal control officer to have a brightline
rule allowing them to contact someone because breeding is not permitted in the City, giving them the power
to impose a fine, and allowing the fine to be cured if the animal is spayed or neutered. She preferred to
handle it that way versus attempting to create a new provision in animal cruelty laws which would bring
people into the criminal justice system.
Council President Olson expressed concern that the timeline to cure the fine also applied to the litter but
spaying and neutering cannot occur until the animals are a certain age. She envisioned that timeline would
be difficult to follow and implement. Councilmember Nand advised dogs typically cannot be
spayed/neutered until they are six months old. The purpose of this provision is to deter the use of offspring
for further breeding so she did not think a six month gap to have the animals spayed/neutered would be not
too burdensome. The intent is to give the animal control officer a stick to stop commercial breeding before
it spirals out of control which it frequently does for backyard breeders.
MOTION CARRIED (4-3), COUNCILMEMBERS TIBBOTT AND DOTSCH AND COUNCIL
PRESIDENT OLSON VOTING NO.
10. COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilmember Nand said she was honestly shocked and thanked the council for giving serious thought to
her proposal. There were many great ideas and suggestions and if further amendments were necessary in
the future, she was definitely open to collaboration. This is a gigantic step forward in terms of animal
welfare and other jurisdictions, including Snohomish County, have expressed interest in this legislation.
She thanked her fellow councilmembers, the administration, Officer Gilginas, PAWS and the local rescue
community for their feedback and making a difference for vulnerable animals that cannot speak for
themselves.
Councilmember Paine commented tonight was an interesting, long meeting, the council started at 5:30. She
commented on the dinner meeting with the Shoreline City Council that included an opportunity to talk
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about things that are shared by the communities. She thanked staff for make that meeting happen and was
hopeful Edmonds could host next time.
Council President Olson congratulated Councilmember Tibbott for earning the Association of Washington
Cities’ Certificate of Municipal Leadership. The time investment in training is a benefit to the City and
helps him be more knowledgeable and capable in his role as a councilmember. Councilmember Tibbott
works a full-time job in addition to being a councilmember and found the time to earn this prestigious
certificate.
Councilmember Tibbott thanked Council President Olson for the recognition. He encouraged
councilmembers to take advantage of the certificates from Municipal Leadership through AWC. There are
hundreds of ways to build one’s knowledge base and is a worthwhile pursuit. He reported on this weekend’s
amazing Sketcher Fest at the Edmonds Waterfront Center that drew artists from all over the world and
included booths from Europe and South America. He had an opportunity to staff a booth promoting the
Creative Arts District; one in five who stopped by were from Edmonds, the rest were from other cities and
countries. Sketcher Fest was an opportunity to showcase the Edmonds Waterfront Center on beautiful 75
degree day. He plans to participate in Sketcher Fest next year.
Councilmember Chen commented Edmonds residents are blessed to live in a community where art and
activities take place in the summer months. He reminded of the Dragon Boat Festival at the Waterfront
Center on August 1st from 4-7 pm. The event will include dragon boats, line dancing and other cultural
activities for families to enjoy.
Councilmember Eck, liaison to the Economic Development Commission (EDC), reported the EDC held
their meeting at the Neighborhood City Hall last week and she hoped they would do that again. The EDC
also held a joint meeting with the planning board recently and she hoped they would do that again as boards
and commissions have many issues in common and there is room for cross pollination and idea sharing.
11. MAYOR'S COMMENTS
Mayor Rosen reminded there is no council meeting next week.
ADJOURNMENT
With no further business, the council meeting was adjourned at 10:24 pm.