2012-01-24 Disability Board MinutesEDMONDS DISABILITY BOARD
Meeting minutes
January 24, 2012
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MEMBERS PRESENT:
Ken Jones, Chair
Gary McComas, Board Member
Joan Bloom, Council Member
Adrienne Fraley-Monillas, Council Member
Dr. Michael Deming, Citizen at Large
STAFF PRESENT:
Mary Ann Hardie, HR Analyst
CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Ken Jones called the Board meeting to order at 8:36 am. Citizen at Large Dr. Michael
Deming arrived at the meeting at 8:40 am. Council Member Joan Bloom [who was elected to a 4
year council term on 1/12/12] was welcomed to the Board. Chair Jones explained that the Board
administers the medical necessary reimbursements for the City's LEOFF 1 retirees and has the
authority and discretion to make rules and policies (which may be based on past Board practices)
regarding reimbursement requests by LEOFF 1 retirees for medically necessary services.
It was noted that there are no currently active LEOFF 1 members employed at the City and that
there are approximately 33 current LEOFF 1 retirees. Additionally, Chair Jones extended an offer
to Council Member Bloom to arrange a meeting time (outside of the one meeting per quarter) to
further discuss the Disability Board functions, etc.
REAPPOINTMENT OF CITIZEN AT LARGE (DR. MICHAEL DEMING) TO SERVE ANOTHER
TERM ON THE BOARD:
Dr. Michael Deming's term as Citizen At Large on the Board expired on 12/31/11 and Dr. Deming
had expressed an interest to serve another term on the Board. Chair Jones pointed out that Dr.
Deming had served for several terms on the Board and that his service was appreciated by the
Board. Chair Jones made a motion to reappoint Dr. Deming to another term on the Disability
Board (through 12/31/13). Council Member Adrienne Fraley-Monillas seconded the motion. The
motion carried.
Ms. Hardie distributed new copies of the Board member term appointment and expiration dates,
including Council Member Bloom's new term on the Board (through 12/31/13) and Dr. Deming's
new term on the Board (through 12/31/13).
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Council Member Fraley-Monillas made a motion to approve the meeting minutes of October 18,
2011. Chair Jones seconded the motion. The motion carried.
DISCUSS AND APPROVE CLAIMS SUMMARY REPORT:
HR Analyst Mary Ann Hardie reviewed the Claims Summary of October 1, 2011 up to and
including December 31, 2011 as follows:
SUMMARY OF CURRENT COSTS: (10/1/11 - 12/31/11)
SERVICE
TOTAL NUMBER OF
CLAIMS
COST
Prescription Co -Pas
16
$3,031.36
Visiting Angels Nurse Care
6
28,615.00
Purchase of Eye Glasses
-
-
Medicare Premium Reimbursement
1
1,158.00
Dental Reimbursement
4
398.00
Payment of Annual deductibles
-
-
Hearing Aids
-
-
Routine & Preventative Costs or costs
associated with Annual Physical Exams
-
-
-
-
Medical Equipment/Medically Necessary
Services
4
778.72
TOTALS:
31
$33,981.08
The total expense for the period 10/1/11 — 12/31/11 was $33,981.08 with 31 claims for the period.
Ms. Hardie explained that the total cost for this period is higher than the expense for the same
period in 2010 due to the increase in Visiting Angels Nurse Care costs (with two LEOFF 1
members using this service). Council Member Fraley-Monillas made a motion to approve the
expenditures for the period 10/1/11 — 12/31/11 and Chair Jones seconded the motion. The
motion carried.
REQUESTS FOR REIMBURSEMENT
Request for Reimbursement for services at Algodones Optical in the amount of $90.00 &
Request for Reimbursement for a spinal adjustment from Dr. Alvaro Aburto in the amount
of $35.00
A LEOFF 1 member submitted a request for reimbursement to the Board from Algodones Optical
($90.00) and from Dr. Alvaro Aburto ($35.00). Ms. Hardie explained that with the normal
reimbursement request process, the LEOFF 1 members submit (to the Board) a copy of required
documentation for the medical services provided (such as the Regence Explanation of Benefits-
EOB letter) in order to show that the services were first processed for payment coverage through
Medicare and Regence.
Chair Jones further explained that he had been in communication with the LEOFF 1 member of
discussion (who had been asked to contact the Disability Board directly for reimbursement
requests) about this reimbursement. The LEOFF 1 member had received medical services
outside of the country (in Mexico) and these items were not processed by the service provider
through either Medicare or Regence (as confirmed through Regence by Ms. Hardie). There was
some discussion that followed by the Board about the requirement and need to submit
appropriate documentation. Chair Jones suggested that he would contact the LEOFF 1 member
of discussion and request that he or his service provider submit these items for reimbursement to
Medicare and Regence for processing (before the Board would be able to further consider the
reimbursement requests). Dr. Deming made a motion to approve Chair Jones' suggestion as
noted. Chair Jones seconded the motion. The motion carried.
REVIEW OF A LETTER SENT TO A LEOFF 1 MEMBER NOTIFYING THE MEMBER TO
CONTACT THE DISABILITY BOARD DIRECTLY FOR REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS
Ms. Hardie explained that she had contacted Chair Jones after a meeting held with the Mayor,
her supervisor, and the City Attorneys due to the continued inappropriate nature and demeanor in
verbal communication directed toward the City HR staff by the same LEOFF 1 member
(regarding the reimbursement requests from Algodones Optical & spinal adjustment from Dr.
Alvaro Aburto). Ms. Hardie further explained she had requested that Chair Jones communicate
to the LEOFF 1 member of discussion that all reimbursement requests should be directed only to
the Disability Board. Council Member Fraley-Monillas recommended that a follow up letter from
the Board be sent to the LEOFF 1 member of discussion affirming this request by Ms. Hardie. Dr.
Deming made a motion to approve the drafting of a letter to the LEOFF 1 member of discussion
directing him to communicate only and directly with the Disability Board for reimbursement
requests. Chair Jones seconded the motion. The motion carried. Ms. Hardie stated that she
would bring back a draft letter for the Board's review and approval as requested at the next Board
meeting.
REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A LEOFF 1 MEMBER'S ADDITIONAL SERVICE HOURS
REQUEST THROUGH VISITING ANGELS NURSE CARE SERVICES
A LEOFF 1 member using Visiting Angels Nurse Care Services submitted a request for approval
of reimbursement to the Board for additional service hours (8 hours on Saturdays). There was
some discussion that followed by the Board about the ongoing use of Visiting Angels Nurse Care
Services (in home assisted living care services) by two LEOFF 1 members that were unable to
use nursing care facilities.
Council Member Fraley-Monillas expressed concern for the expenses of these services and their
impact on the City's financial condition and likely grim financial condition in 2013 (without a levy
passing this year) as well as the need to look at ways to reduce expenses (in all areas of the
budget) when possible. Board Member Gary McComas stated that the Board has always been
conscious of this concern and that the Board has been [careful and responsible] in managing
reimbursement requests during the City's lean and better financial periods.
Chair Jones stated that there was a LEOFF 1 actuarial study (of the total estimated LEOFF 1
financial cost) performed by a third party for the City and that a study had been done some time
ago. Council Member Fraley-Monillas asked when another such study may be performed. Ms.
Hardie responded that the last actuarial study had been done about 2 years ago and that every 2-
3 years Milliman has done an actuarial study coordinated through finance. Ms. Hardie stated that
she would check with the Finance Director, Shawn Hunstock, to see when the next study would
be conducted and that she would have him come to a future Board meeting to discuss/explain the
results of the study.
There was additional discussion by the Board about possibly using long term care (LTC)
insurance options for LEOFF 1 retirees (if available). Board Member McComas made a motion to
approve having Ms. Hardie contact AWC to explore LTC information for LEOFF 1 retirees and to
bring that information back to the Board for review at the next meeting. Chair Jones seconded
the motion. The motion carried. Ms. Hardie stated that she would contact AWC and request
information about the availability of LTC to bring back to the Board at the next meeting.
REVIEW OF THE APPROVED IN HOME CARE ASSISTED LIVING POLICY AND
PROCEDURE (008.11)
Ms. Hardie explained that at the last meeting in October 2011, the Board had approved an In
Home Assisted Living Policy, a copy of which was distributed to the Board.
The Board reviewed the policy and procedure. Council Member Bloom expressed concerns about
the language in the policy (being specific and inclusive enough). Ms. Hardie explained that a copy
of the policy would be disseminated to all LEOFF 1 retirees and that the policy had been
approved but could be reviewed at any time by the Board for necessary changes.
The Board additionally requested that Ms. Hardie contact one of the LEOFF 1 members using
Visiting Angels Nurse Care Services (who has been using Visiting Angels Nurse Care Services
for several years now) to inquire as to how the LEOFF 1 member was doing on the Board's
behalf. Ms. Hardie stated she would contact the LEOFF 1 member per the Board's request and
let the Board know the status of the LEOFF 1 member at the next Board meeting.
REVIEW OF MEDICARE PART C
Ms. Hardie provided information from Medicare regarding Medicare Part C. Ms. Hardie explained
that at the last Board meeting, Chair Jones had been told by his medical clinic (the Everett Clinic)
that as of 1/1/12 all Medicare Part A and Part B members must select a Medicare Advantage plan
(Medicare Part C) unless they were a retiree on a government or private insurance plan. Ms.
Hardie further explained that she had contacted other city and county disability boards in the state
to find out if their LEOFF 1 members had any similar experiences.
Per the information from Medicare and the other city and county boards, Medicare Part C is not
required for LEOFF 1 members. Any LEOFF 1 member who is informed that they must join the
Medicare Part C from their service provider or clinic should have their clinic contact Regence
directly (888) 849-3658.
Chair Jones thanked Ms. Hardie for providing this information to the Board.
NEW BUSINESS
None.
The Disability Board meeting adjourned at 9: 47 am.