REVIEWED BLD BLD2024-1157 Re Fire Wall CalculationsFrom: Jay Bennett <skywatchproperties@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2024 9:45 PM ...............................................
To: Nelson, Denise REVIEWED
Cc: Rutler, Marissa BY
Subject: Re: Fire Wall Calculations CITY OF EDMONDS
BUILDING DEPARTMENT!!
Denise, ............... ,................. I .............
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I have resubmitted both permits. Please let me know if you have any questions or if anything needs to
be changed. I am here to help.
I am hoping to hear back with good news soon.
Thank you for all your help, I really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Jay Bennett
On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 10:44 AM Nelson, Denise <Denise.Nelson @edmondswa.gov> wrote:
Please add this info to the plans you are going to submit.
"do I use a different permit than the ROW permit?" a ROW permit will work. If Engineering
needs additional or different permit they will let you know at first review.
We do not have an expedited program. At this time Engineering is running a month behind in their
reviews so nothing is quick. Q
Denise Nelson CPT I Senior Permit Coordinator she/her
City Hall 1 121 5th Ave N I Edmonds WA 98020
' S``' 425.771.0220 Ext 1336
Denise. NeIson(@edmondswa.eov
www.edmondswa.gov
The Development Services Permit Center is open M-F 8:00am to 4:30pm for Telephone and
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closed for lunch 12-1pm; appointments are encouraged. I work remotely 3-4 days a week, but on
Mondays I am always in office.
To apply for a permit, check status of a permit or schedule inspections please visit
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From: Jay Bennett <skywatchproperties@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 3:18 PM
To: Nelson, Denise <Denise.Nelson@edmondswa.gov>; Rutler, Marissa
<marissa.rutler@edmondswa.gov>
Subject: Fwd: Fire Wall Calculations
Denise,
I will be submitting this on Tuesday 9/3/24. 1 have attached my updated site plan here and
answered the questions you had below. I am available at any time to discuss. I am eager to get
this project started. Let me know as well if there is a expediting fee or speed up the process.
Thanks.
Answers to your questions:
• Some level of building code analysis of building including construction type Type V,
occupancy group (R2?) R2
• Construction details for how the wall is built and will be altered. Wall is currently wood
frame construction with exterior sheathing followed by a brick veneer. The alteration
will be removal of the brick veneer, wrap in a moisture barrier, add furring to level the
wall surface for installation of Cement Fiber Board Panels. No changes to the framing
or sheathing are planned, this will only change the siding material.
• Site plan with dimensions (width of ROW) Included in site plan
• Staging area Identified on site plan. Under carport and on subject parcel in front of two
leftmost parking stalls.
• Clarification of the designation/ownership of the parking area. Parcel #27032300415300
owned by the City of Edmonds. The building code wants to know if it is true ROW, or
meets the definition of public way. Parking appears to abut the end of Beach Place and
continue onto Olympic Beach Park. Perhaps this makes this a public way. If that is the
case, do I use a different permit than the ROW permit?
Thanks,
Jay Bennett
425.212.7590
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From: Nelson, Denise <denise.nelson @edmondswa.gov>
Date: Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: Fire Wall Calculations
To: Jay Bennett <iay.ben nett@kidder.com>, Scott Douglas<scott.douglas@linkdesigngroup.com>,
Rutler, Marissa <Marissa.Rutler@edmondswa.gov>
Cc: Jenny Li <Jenny.Li@linkdesigngroup.com>, skywatchproperties@gmail.com
<skywatchproperties@gmail.com>
Hello,
You do not have a permit application in, the one submitted prior was rejected, as was the ROW. Please
resubmit and include:
• Some level of building code analysis of building including construction type, occupancy group
(R2?)
• Construction details for how the wall is built and will be altered.
• Site plan with dimensions (width of ROW)
• Staging area
• Clarification of the designation/ownership of the parking area. The building code wants to know
if it is true ROW, or meets the definition of public way
Once this is submitted, we can put into review queues. And as we discussed before, it will take a few
weeks to review, especially since Engineering will be involved and they are extremely behind.
-Denise
From: Jay Bennett <lay.ben nett@kidder.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 12:41 PM
To: Scott Douglas<scott.douglas@linkdesigngroup.com>; Rutler, Marissa
<marissa.rutler@edmondswa.gov>
Cc: Nelson, Denise <denise.nelson@edmondswa.gov>; Jenny Li <Jenny.Li@linkdesigngroup.com>;
skywatchproperties@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Fire Wall Calculations
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Thank you, Scott, Jenny, Marissa, and Denise, for your work here.
We are excited to get this project underway.
Marissa and Denise, please let me know if you need anything else for the building permit and the ROW
permits. We are eager to start in the next week or two here.
FYI: The email on file for the permits is skywatchproperties@gmail.com which is my email for our
apartments (CC'd). This is my work email.
Thanks,
Jay Bennett
Associate Vice President
KIDDER MATHEWS
500 108"' Avenue NE, Suite 2400, Bellevue, WA 98004
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From: Scott Douglas<scott.douglas@linkdesigngroup.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 3:26 PM
To: Marissa Rutler <marissa.rutler@edmondswa.gov>
Cc: Denise Nelson <denise.nelson@edmondswa.gov>; Jay Bennett <lay.bennett@kidder.com>; Jenny Li
<Jenny.Li@linkdesigngroup.com>
Subject: Re: Fire Wall Calculations
This Message Is From an External Sender
This message came from outside your organization.
Adding the building owner to this email.
Hello Marissa,
Thank you for your time today to discuss the details related to the wall repair at 250 Beach PI. The
conclusion ended up being a win -win from my perspective. The owner and contractor will coordinate
with the City of Edmonds on future permits including the possibility of a wall mural.
Sincerely,
Scott
On Aug 27, 2024 at 2:24 PM, <Marissa Rutler> wrote:
Scott,
Thanks for stopping by today to discuss the need for a fire rated assembly for the replacement of the
exterior brick veneer that is deteriorating at 256 Beach PI.
As discussed, your team is on the right track. Per 2021 Washington State Building Code, fire separation
distance is defined as:
The distance measured from the building face to one of the following:
1. LThe closest interior lot line.
2. 2.To the centerline of a street, an alley or public way.
3. 3.To an imaginary line between two buildings on the lot.
The distance shall be measured at right angles from the face of the wall.
The exterior wall in question is along a public ROW and public access which accommodates an existing
fire separation distance of over 20'-6". This in turn does not trigger the need for a fire rated assembly.
The proposed cementitious fiberboard panel rainscreen system will be acceptable from the building
department and will allow the exterior wall to be pulled within the property line, where the existing
brick veneer finish exceeds 1-3/8".
Please let us know if you have further questions.
Marissa Rutler I Plans Examiner
City of Edmonds
Planning and Development Dept
p. 425.771.0220 x1314
m. 425.550.78 76
e. Marissa.RutlerAedmondswa.gov
The Development Services Permit Center is open M-F 8:30am to noon and 1:00 to 2:00pm for in -
person service. Appointments are encouraged. Telephone and Digital/Remote access is
available M-F 8:00am to 4:30pm.
To apply for a permit, check status of a permit or schedule inspections please visit
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From: Nelson, Denise <Denise.Nelson@edmondswa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 1:44 PM
To: Rutler, Marissa <Marissa.Rutler@EdmondsWa.Gov>
Subject: FW: Fire Wall Calculations
From: Scott Douglas<scott.douglas@linkdesigngroup.com>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 3:04 PM
To: Nelson, Denise <Denise.Nelson@edmondswa.gov>
Subject: FW: Fire Wall Calculations
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Denise,
I'm sending this ahead of me stopping by tomorrow. I'll bring an 11 x 17 copy but might need to look
closer on your screen.
The issue: The existing brick wall is about 1-3/8" over the property line. When we construct the new
wall, can we maintain the over -build (0.1 feet) or must we tighten it up the detail to keep it within the
PL?
There are a couple other issues I'll explain tomorrow.
Thanks,
Scott
Scoff A. Douglas AIA, Principal
Office:425.298.0080 Cell:206.321.7641
439 Kirkland Way, Kirkland, WA, 98033
From: Jay Bennett <may.ben nett@kidder.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2024 4:31 PM
To: Scott Douglas<scott.douglas@linkdesigngroup.com>; Jenny Li <Jenny.Li@linkdesigngroup.com>
Cc: Mike Bartolome <Mike.Bartolome@linkdesigngroup.com>
Subject: Re: Fire Wall Calculations
Scott and Jenny,
Thanks for the call.
I found the file on my phone while sitting on the side of the field.
Please see attached. Hopefully this will answer your questions.
Jay Bennett
Associate Vice President
KIDDER MATHEWS
500 108th Avenue NE, Suite 2400, Bellevue, WA 98004
T 425.450.1187 1 c 425.212.7590 1 sic No 22011614
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