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October 13, 1981 — Work
Meeting
The regular meeting of
the Edmonds City Council was called to order -at 8:00 p.m. by.Mayor Harve
Harrison in the Council
Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center. All present joined in the flag salute.
PRESENT
ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
Harve Harrison, Mayor
John Nordquist Jack Mitchell Public Works Director
Katherine Allen
Jim Adams, City Engineer
Mary Goetz
Irene Varney Moran, City Clerk .
Ray Gould
Mary Lou Block, Planning Director
Bill Kasper
Art Housler, Finance Director
Jo -Anne Jaech
Marlo Foster, Police Chief
Larry Naughten
Jack Weinz, Fire Chief
Jim Jessel, Parks & Recreation Director
Wayne Tanaka, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk
CONSENT AGENDA
COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOVED,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH,.TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION
CARRIED. The approved
items on the. Consent Agenda were as follows:
(A) Roll call.
(B) Approval of Minutes
of October 6, 1981.
(C) Adoption of Ordinance.2239
regarding Superintendent of Public Works Position.
(D) Setting date
of October. 20, 1981 for hearing on preliminary plat (Hofto/P-3-81).
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(E) Adoption of Ordinance
2240, establishing 7:30 p.m: meeting time for all City Council
meetings.
(F) Passage of Resolution
505 in support of senior discounts.
(G) Authorization
to purchase combination jet/vacuum unit.
(H) Authorization for Mayor.to sign revised Cemetery Agreement.
(I) Final Approval of PRD:of Forest Ridge, located at 17422 71st Ave. W., and adoption of
Ordinance 2241 changi'ng-.zoning from RS-8 to PRO. (PRD-3-.79)
MAYOR
Mayor Harrison read a memorandum from.Planning Director Mary Lou Block regarding the Meadowdale
sewer project as a potential substitute for other Edmonds 1982-84.block grant projects. Ms. Block
had indicated that.if Edmonds were to submit a preapplication for the'sewer system to the Block
Grant Coordinator, together with a cover letter seeking authorization to substitute this project,
the request would be forwarded:to.the Policy Board and Technical Committee members for action. The
cover letter would indicate that the substitution would'be made at the time of final'application,
and only if no -other funding were available for this purpose. This would give the City the oppor-
tunity to determine the status of the other funding sources and go with the sewer application, if
necessary, at a later date. Mayor Harrison advised the Council that if they wished to pursue this,
they should make a statement as to whether this application should have priority over the other four
applications.(the Wade James Theater handicap improvements,'Senior Center improvements, Museum
elevator, and Library elevator). This was discussed and..it'was noted that current applications
total approximately $500,000 and that would not be enough for the sewer project; if it were granted,
but the project could be scaled.down until other funds could be.found.. Following the discussion,
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COUNCILMEMBER'ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO ACCEPT THE SUGGESTION OF THE PLANNING
DIRECTOR AND PUT THE PREAPPLICATION FOR THE MEADOWDALE SEWER SYSTEM AT THE TOP OF THE CITY'S LIST
FOR BLOCK GRANTS AS A POSSIBLE SUBSTITUTION FOR ALL THE OTHERS. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilmember Allen noted that there will be a block grant seminar put on by Government Information
Services, and she suggested that the Planning Director attend. Mayor Harrison thought if anyone
went it should be someone from the County, and Councilmember Naughten suggested checking with other
cities to see if anyone was going, and whoever went could share the information.
Councilmember Gould asked how to go about being more specific in identifying alternatives in cover-
ing the balance of the -project, and Mayor Harrison responded that they should wait to see what kind
of grant can be obtained and then scale the project to fit the grant. When asked what they will do
if they cannot get the 1.1 million dollars needed., he asked in return what they would do if they do
not get anything. He thought they should try to get what they can.and use it in the best -way
possible. COUNCILMEMBER NAUGHTEN.MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GOULD, TO PLACE ON THE AGENDA OF
OCTOBER 27, 1981 A DISCUSSION REGARDING PURSUING ALTERNATIVES TO THE 1.1 MILLION DOLLAR FUNDING FOR
THE MEADOWDALE SEWER PROJECT. MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Harrison advised that the Hearing Examiner, Jim Driscoll, will be going on vacation and a pro
tem is needed for the meeting of November 5, 1981.. Mr. Driscoll had recommended Mary Ellen Ramey
_ who is the Hearing Examiner Pro tem for the City of Redmond. Therefore, Mayor Harrison asked for
confirmation of his appointment of Mary Ellen Ramey as Hearing Examiner Pro tem for the meeting of
November 5, 1981. COUNCILMEMBER ALLE V MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GOULD, TO CONFIRM THE MAYOR'S
APPOINTMENT OF MARY ELLEN RAMEY AS HEARING EXAMINER PRO TEM•FOR.THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 5; 1981.
MOTION CARRIED.
The next item on the agenda was a proposal regarding the remodel of property at 5th Ave. and Main
St., but the applicant was not present so the item was moved to the end of the agenda, just before
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RIGHT-OF=WAY ACQUISITION 1020 PUGET DR.
City Engineer Jim Adams stated that this was the only piece.of right-of-way not acquired for the SR
524 improvement. The Department of Transportation.had made an offer of $5,000 (appraisal value
$3,100 and cash settlement.$1,900),.which was unacceptable to Roger Hertrich, the property owner.
Mr. Hertrich has a 12' high laurel hedge which will have to be removed for construction of the
sidewalk, but that hedge screens his home from the neighborhood business development -across the
street and from the noise and traffic of the street, so he proposed that in exchange for the right -
.of -way the City pay for the construction.of a 10' brick fence (for which he had obtained an estimate)
which would provide similar screening for him. -He had submitted an estimate from a masonry con-
tractor in the amount of.$10,758. The State had not condemned the property because the cost of
condemnation was too high,:as compared to the value of the property, and also there had been the
matter of time. Mr. Adams.said this could be put off.until after the project is completed and then
a contract could be negotiated, and City Attorney Wayne Tanaka added that a condemnation action
could be started and that.way obtain immediate use and possession in order to include this piece in
the project. Councilman -Kasper thought it was premature to ask the Council to,pay for the brick
fence as Mr. Hertrich would have .to get a variance for a fence over 6' high before it could be'
constructed. COUNCILMEMBER..ALLEN MOVED,.SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO ALLOW. MR. HERTRICH TO
SPEAK. MOTION CARRIED. Mr:. Hertrich circulated photographs to illustrate the before and after
views from his .property and said they should demonstrate why he was so concerned. He said he had
lived.there 12 years and although the gas station was there he was not aware of it or of the other
commercial activities because of the laurel hedge. He said he had made an effort to settle with the
State, but he had asked for protection of a large cedar tree while they were constructing and they
said.they could not do that.and negotiations were dropped; and he was left not knowing what was
going,to happen next. Later he found that his property had been omitted from the project. He felt
he was asking for very little, but he said nobody from the City was willing to help get the two
parties together. When he saw.what was happening to his neighbor's home with his hedge removed he
decided he wanted immediate replacement on his property. In considering a replacement he saw that
plantings would not provide the screening he wanted so he decided on a solid fence, and since wood
would not last indefinitely he chose the brick. He -also had considered a berm but that would have
left too -little front yard. He was willing to accept the amount of the fence estimate he•submitted
($10.,758) although there were other costs which he would have in preparing the site for the fence.
Councilmember Naughten suggested that he submit additional estimates as the spread between the
$5,000 offered by the State and Mr. Hertrich's request for $10,758 was too much. After some dis-
cussion, COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN, TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE
OCTOBER 27, 1981 WORK MEETING AND THAT THEY,BE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS TO WHAT MR. HERTRICH
WILL ACCEPT FOR A SETTLEMENT OR OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, WITHOUT THE CITY'S GETTING
INVOLVED IN CONSTRUCTION, AND THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE THAT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. Councilmember
Gould advised Mr. Hertrich that the Council must treat him the same as the others Who were affected
in this project. He said what was proposed seemed out of line to him, but he was willing to look at
some alternatives. Mr. Hertrich responded that the estimate was only for the construction, not for
the.cost of any permits, and he had not added the cost of moving trees and pouring a slab for the
fence. He mentioned some of the other costs and said the people who build -the wall would deduct
$2,000 if the footings were put in, and he would be willing to deduct the cost of the land. THE
MOTION THEN CARRIED.
DISCUSSION REGARDING PORTABLE SIGNS AND PROPOSED ORDINANCES REGARDING SIGN CODE
ENFORCEMENT AND MAINTENANCE:OF MULTI -FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL PLANTER AREAS
Mayor Harrison read a memorandum from Planning Director Mary Lou Block which stated that•the Code
currently allows as temporary signs trailer signs, paper signs, and sandwich board,signs, with some
conditions. .At the next PAB meeting the Board was to consider a recommendation that trailer signs
be eliminated from the list of allowable temporary signs,_and Ms. Block indicated that.the Council
may wish to make some furiher.recommendations in view their recent discussions. She noted that the
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advertising device which.generates the most discussion is the sandwich board sign, many of the
merchants indicating the..importance of these signs to their businesses. Complaints have been
received about these signs, however, because of their clutter and nuisance when located.in the
middle.of the sidewalk. She suggested that it maybe.desirable to allow such signs.but to regulate
them so they do not become a nuisance for the community. Mayor Harrison concurred with that sug-
"gestion, saying they could:be allowed with a permit.. Ms. Block had indicated a sign permit could
specify location, duration, and release of the City from liability. Councilmember Jaech commented
that the Gas and Go station.about.which she had complained had taken down their signs and now looks
much better. She was. amenable to Ms. Block's suggestions, but she felt only one sandwich board sign
.per business should be allowed. Ms. Block said the.:PAB could be asked to discuss some criteria for
such signs at their meeting the next evening. Councilmember Gould stated that he really did not see
any problem with small sandwich.board signs. Councilmember Jaech.stated further that she thought if
a notice is sent to someone that they are in violation of the Code that there should a set time
.be
frame -in which they must come.into.compliance. City Attorney Wayne Tanaka recommended that a minimum
time be.set and that the
staff be given discretion to extend it if the situation so warrants.
Councilwoman Jaech further suggested.that the notices be sent by certified mail.so the
parties would
have to respond,'but she was told'it is more difficult to.get a response to certified mail as it may
be refused it
or may not -be delivered if the addressee is.not there at the time of delivery.
COUNCILMEMBER JAECH THEN.MOVED.TO ADOPT ORDINANCE.2242., SPECIFYING THE MANNER OF
ENFORCEMENT OF THE
SIGN. -CODE, BUT DELETING THE PROVISION STARTING ON THE SEVENTH.LINE OF SECTION 1..C.. REGARDING THE
SENDING OF SECOND NOTICES,TO VIOLATORS (AND CONSISTING OF TWO SENTENCES); AND FURTHER, -IN THE NI•NE-
TEENTH LINE OF THE SAME PARAGRAPH DELETING "IN
THE WORDS THE SECOND NOTICE"; AND FINALLY, IN THE
NEXT LINE CHANGING THE WORD."MAY" TO "SHALL" ("THE PLANNING DIRECTION SHALL REFER THE MATTER.
MOTION CARRIED. . .).
Another proposed ordinance had been provided, in draft only, regarding the maintenance of planter
areas. COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GOETZ, TO PLACE ON NEXT WEEK'S CONSENT
AGENDA THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE REGARDING MAINTENANCE_.OF PLANTER AREAS: MOTION CARRIED.'
COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER:KASPER, THAT THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD BE
ASKED TO CONSIDER SANDWIC� BOARD SIGNS WHEN THEY CONSIDER THE TRAILER SIGNS. MOTION CARRIED. A
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PENDING WATER/SEWER BOND ISSUE
Finance Director Art Housler had explored alternatives to provide.$1,700,000 for needed water/sewer
projects because of the deterioration in.the.bond market. He.had reviewed in a memorandum the
alternatives of a two-year bank note, five-year callable bonds,. and':a "pay as'you go" basis, recom-
mending the "pay as you go" alternative which would require that water/sewer rates be increased
enough to generate $246,000 annually for a six -year period. Rate increases for this bond issue were
incorporated into the rates provided.by Price Waterhouse, and this amount equates to the annual
interest payment that is*required,.on $1,700,000 at 14.50%, so the effect on the water/sewer rates
would be the same. He had provided a project schedule for the next.six years. This had been
discussed earlier this evening at the Finance Committee meeting. Councilmember Gould observed that
doing it this way the people would get something for their..money now. There was some discussion,.
and Mayor Harrison recommended approval of the recommendation of the Finance Director. COUNCIL -
MEMBER ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FINANCE'
DIRECTOR. MOTION CARRIED. The projects for 1981 will be paid from cash already on hand.
SPACE NEEDS STUDY
Planning Director Mary Lou Block stated that the major question at this time was how to set up the
large meeting area over the new library: Councilmember Gould said he did not want it designated as
Council Chambers, but that it should be a general purpose community -used conference room --the Council
can use it, commissions and boards of the City can use it, and nonprofit organizations in the City
could use it. He -said one part should have an ordinary public address system to handle meetings and
when the room is not scheduled it can be rented. Councilmember Allen suggested microphones which
hang from the ceiling for better utility. She thought the library group was concerned that if the
Council uses this area they will not have enough space.for the library activities. Mayor Harrison
asked if the City can afford 17,000 sq. ft. of new library space at this time: The suggested
configurations were briefly discussed.. COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GOULD,
TO SELECT THE CONFIGURATION OF 18 SEPARATE, MOVABLE DESKS, WITH THE MICROPHONES HUNG FROM THE
CEILING. MOTION CARRIED.
QUESTIONS REGARDING OCTOBER 20 AGENDA ITEMS
Councilmember Naughten asked what the basis was of the 7th and Elm discussion, and he was told there
are some people who are concerned that it is on the proposed'sale list. Councilmember Gould requested
that the Staff provide in the packet for that meeting a copy of'the surplus property list and the
value of each piece of.property on it..
Regarding the recommendation from the Sunset Ave. Parking Committee, scheduled to be heard at the
October 20 meeting; Planning Director Mary Lou Block advised that the Committee wants to reconsider
their recommendation, so that item will be removed from the agenda and scheduled at a later date.
PROPOSAL FROMJACQUE MAYO REGARDING.REMODEL OF PROPERTY AT 5TH AVE. AND MAIN ST.
Planning Director Mary Lou Block reviewed a recent parking proposal for the triangle at 5th and Bell
which would add 28 additional parking slots. Dr. Mayo then discussed his proposed remodel again, in
the hope that if this parking plan were adopted the Council would reconsider their decision that he
provide 14 parking stalls and only be allowed to pay into the In -Lieu Parking Fund for 15 stalls,
and allow him to pay into the fund for all 29 stalls. He`said he had investigated property avail-
able and the costs of purchasing and developing it, and..he found that if he had to buy the land for
even 10 stalls it would be too costly, from $280,000 - $350,000. He noted that he only had until
December 23 to get his building plans in, so a lot would have to be done in the interim if he were
to go forward -with the remodel, including another hearing. City'.Attorney Wayne Tanaka explained
that a public hearing would have'to be held to notify the.public that there was a change in what he
would be allowed to do with his.property.. Councilmember Kasper asked Dr. Mayo.- why he had not done
anything about parking previously, since he had owned the property since 1967, and Dr. Mayo replied
that there had been no requirement-to_add parking. He said most of the project would be done with
equity financing. Councilmember Kasper'stated=that there is'.very little financing available for'
projects without parking, but!that equity financing is another thing. Councilmember Naughten
thought this project would be a benefit to the business community and that it would be a shame for
it not to proceed because of a problem in the parking. 'He.thought the proposed parking at-5th and
Bell would be a benefit to the.people and•that-Dr. Mayo's project would be a visual benefit to the
City. COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOVED; SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GOETZ, TO PLACE THIS PROPOSAL ON THE
OCTOBER 20, 1981 AGENDA AS A HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF.RECONSIDERING.THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR
THE REMODEL'OF THE'FOURTNER BUILDING. Councilmember_ Gould noted that the people who live around the
proposed -parking area should have.the opportunity"to address this. It was noted that a discussion
was scheduled on October 27 with the Downtown Parking Committee and the Planning Advisory Board and
that a hearing on the 5th and'Bell'parking proposal would fit it weld at that time, as well as a
hearing on Dr. Mayo's project...COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN WITHDREW HER PREVIOUS MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER,
ALLEN-THEN MOVED SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GOULD, THAT BECAUSE OF THE EMERGENCY NATURE OF THE
SITUATION, THERE BE'ADDED TO THE PARKING COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ON OCTOBER 27, 1981 A HEARING ON THE
BELL ST. PARK-ING PROPOSAL, TO BE FOLLOWED BY A HEARING ON THE JACQUE MAYO PROPOSAL. MOTION CARRIED.
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Police Chief Marl.o.Foster.had eecommended'that the fees for fingerprinting be increased from
$2.00 to $5.00, effective January 1, 1982, in order to break even on this service. Mayor Harrison
had recommended approval. COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO APPROVE
THIS REQUEST, DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE TO EFFECT THIS CHANGE. MOTION
CARRIED.
COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH,'THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH A RECOMMENDATION
OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, BUDGET WORK MEETINGS BE SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 10, NOVEMBER 17,.AND
NOVEMBER 24, 1981. MOTION CARRIED.
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MEETING BE RESCHEDULED BACK TO THE REGULAR NOVEMBER 3, 1981 MEETING DATE AS HE DID NOT BELIEVE THE
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ELECTION WOULD HAVE THAT MUCH IMPACT ON THE MEETING. (He also said he would not be able to be
present on November 2.) MOTION CARRIED.
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Councilmember Gould asked'about.the Edmonds and Mountlake :Terrace sewer contract., and City Attorney
Wayne Tanaka responded that.he had received correspondence from the Mountlake Terrace attorney, to
which he is preparing a response.' Councilmember Gould requested that Mr. Tanaka give the Council a
briefing on it at the next meeting.
Councilmember Kasper commended Art Housler, Dia Bock., and Councilmember Allen for the summary of the
recent Council/Staff retreat.
Councilmember.Kasper noted.that.Technical Studies.Engineer Bob Franklin will be leaving the City,
and he thought Mr. Franklin should be given a commendation for the outstanding.job.he has done for
the City, especially in connection.with the Meadowdale.sewer-project. COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER COULD, THAT A RESOLUTION OF COMMENDATION BE PREPARED IN.RECOGNITION OF MR.
FRANKLIN'S SERVICE TO THE CITY: MOTION CARRIED.
Councilmember Kasper observed that during last week's heavy.rainfall Shell Creek did not flood down
Daley St. He was told that it had been very dry prior to -that storm and Goodhope Pond had held the
stormwater.
City Engineer Jim Adams noted that.a*minor change was needed in the Pine Ridge Estates plat to
relocate the sidewalk and walkway for the benefit of children -walking to Chase Lake Elementary
School. He had provided a map to.illustrate the recommended change, but now said .they would like to
leave the sidewalk on the east side instead of the west side and go down one more lot. The reason
for this change was .to save some trees. The walkway would go down the east side and exit the plat
between Lots 8 and 9. Mr. Adams.said the principal of�the school and the other,people involved are
happy with this solution. COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER-GOETZ, THAT THE
REQUESTED CHANGE IN THE PINE RIDGE ESTATES PLAT BE APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
There was no further business to come before the Council, and.the meeting adjourned at 11:15 p.m.
'IRENE VARNEY MORAN, Ci&yF Clerk
October 20, 1981
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HARV" H. A R SON; Mayor
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Mayor Harve Harrison
in the Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center. All present joined in the flag salute.
PRESENT STAFF PRESENT
Harve Harrison,,Mayor Jack Mitchell,.Public Works Superintendent
Katherine Allen Jim Adams, City Engineer
Mary Goetz Irene Varney Moran, City Clerk
Bill Kasper Jim Jessel, Parks & Recreation Director
Ray Gould Bob Franklin, Technical Studies Engineer
Larry Naughten Art Housler, Finance Director
John Nordquist Mary Lou Block, Planning Director
Jo -Anne Jaech. Jack Weinz, Fire Chief
Mark Gluth, Student Rep. Wayne Tanaka, City Attorney
Mark Eames, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett,.Deputy City Clerk
Council President Allen introduced Mark Gluth, the new Student Representative from Edmonds High
School.
CONSENT AGENDA
Item (C) was removed from the Consent Agenda. COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN.MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER
NORDQUIST, TO APPROVE THE.BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The approved items on the
Consent Agenda included the following:
(A) Roll call..
(B) Approval of Minutes. of October 13, 1981.. (Councilmember Goetz cited.an_omission in the
Minutes, but in later discussion with the.Clerk it.was determined that the item had been
in the previous week's minutes.)
PROPOSED ORDINANCE RE MAINTENANCE..OF PLANTER AREAS [Item (C) on Consent Agenda]
Councilmember Naughten did not believe an ordinance.was.needed to control the upkeep of planter
areas�,.but that a simple letter from the City should suffice.: Councilmember Jaech-questioned the
authority of the City in this regard, and City Attorney Wayne Tanaka responded.that unkempt planter
areas are not.aesthetical.l.y pleasing and contribute to the decline of property values, and that it
is within the City's authority to require upkeep of those areas. He noted that this.ordinance would