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01712 (2)T• f thought they could come up from Meadowdale Beach Rd. and go up a private } road that goes past Mr. Bilder's house. He asked that the City study the environmental impact very carefully and handle the situation of the children. He said they go up 174th and then down the valley. Mr. Forsander said he had not mentioned drainage because it had not yet s been designed. He said they would not handle drainage by digging up the I site and putting in concrete pipes, but they would have some sort of 7, detention system and minimize the increase in runoff from impervious surfaces. Also, they intend to do a•traffic study as a part of an expanded w- environmental checklist. He said they would like to work with the people to see about improving the streets. had in therein 1963 and Mike Chambers, 17129 172nd S.W., said he moved since that time 20-25 houses have been built, and he would just as soon have no more homes built there. He said every morning when he goes to work there are children walking to school and he always has to slow down or stop to let them get out of the way and the traffic on those roads with the: children going to school is serious, and the road is narrow and there is no R. room for a sidewalk, and any development, that adds more traffic should be s; very carefully studied as to what happens to the pedestrians.. . Earl Morris, 17306 73rd, one block to the south of the site, said he had lived there 52 years and owns three 1/2 acre sites, and the reason for the r zoning was because of the slope of the land. He said they had to have 1/2 acre.sites to the west because of the slope, and they were reduced to 12,000 sq. ft. where the land leveled. He congratulated the applicant and his associates on their design, being an architect himself. He said thisR is the. first organized planning effort in this area and he thought the Planning Commission should encourage Mr. Bilder to proceed as he has started.. Regarding drainage, Mr. Saterlie said the City has a strict drainage ordinance and would require that no storm water leave the site at any rate greater ` than under natural circumstances, and a drainage design will have to be submitted for approval. He said the City has an expert on the staff who keeps good tabs on drainage in Edmonds, and the project will not go through if the drainage cannot be -taken care of properly. William Johnson said at , 17201 and 17205, going down 72nd, they take all the drainage through their yard, and Mr. Saterlie encouraged him to see Bob Franklin in the Engineering Division to discuss his problem. He noted that the drainage ordinance covers new development and pre-existing problem situations are difficult to solve. k=` Mr. Whipple, 7321 172nd S.W., said his property bounds this development more than any other, and he commended the applicant for a nice development reiterated the and drainage and said he but he the problems of streets hoped they would get the opportunity to hear the further developments. A petition with 17 signatures was submitted asking denial of access from 72nd or 172nd to the PRD. The public portion of the hearing was then closed. Mr. Bowman commented that a decision usually is made on the environmental? study when they look at the design review, and this is an environmentallyy -;a sensitive site, but specific development plans were not submitted•at this y time, and the environmental assessment will be made when the specifics are # submitted. Commissioner Hall was concerned about the grade of the road R going into the site, and Mr. Forsander said it cannot be more than 14%. He said it is relatively flat on the ridge, and the road will be far less than 10%. He noted that the topographic map displayed was inaccurate as it was done from an aerial photograph, but they were in the process then of surveying ;r t} the site. He also said, in answer to a question, that there will be a homeowners' association responsible for all of the common areas. Commissioner Hall gave Emerald Hills as an example of steep private roads that were ! difficult to maintain, and she noted that they eventually were turned over EDMONDS PLANNING COMMISSION Page 5 - November 12, 1980 k. ti j: .l