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Yost Memorial ParkDANIEL J. GOVERNun • DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL AND HEALTH SERVICES SIDNEY E. SMITH SECRETARY HEALTH SERVICES DIVISION SMITH TOWER, SEATTLE, WASHINGTON 98104 WALLACE LANE, M.D., M.P.H. ASSISTANT SECRETARY May 11, 1973 The Honorable Mayor and Members of the City Council City Hall Edmonds, Wa. 98020 CERTIFICATE OF POOL INSPECTION On May 10, 1973, the Yost Memorial 'Park,'Cominunity Swimming Pool, located at 9537 Bowdoin Way, Edmonds,, Washing- tmn, was inspected by a representative of the Health Services Division of the Department of Social and Health Services and was found to be constructed essentially as shown on the approved plans. It is provided with the proper incidental equipment and, in general, conforms with the requirements of the Rules and Regulations of the State Health Services Divi- sion. Therefore, permission is hereby granted to open the pool for operation, Very truly yours, --iroc, 11 GAIL D. LIVINGSTON, SR., P.E. Water Supply & Waste Unit Concurrence: Sanitarl , County Health Department Original to Pool Owner Copy to County Health Departmnet Cop�'to State Health Services Division Copy to Harry Whitcutt, Building Inspector 21423-92nd Ave. W. Edmonds, WA 98020 March 6, 1984 To the Edmonds City Council: The City of Edmonds has an excellent recreational department and some fine facilities for potential year round use. Specifically, I am referring to Yost Pool. As I understand it, the city must come to a decision about the seasonal use of the pool. As a resident of Edmonds and member of a family who uses this facility frequently, I feel that the city would be wise to put a cover on the pool so that it can be used for the entire year. In my opinion this would: --upgrade the image of the city itself --provide better year round health facilities --keep pool use revenues at home rather than diverting them to Lynnwood or Mountlake Terrace --create more recreational opportunities in Edmonds There are many more excellent reasons for the pool to be converted to a year round facility. In my neighborhood alone, I know of three families who chose to move to Edmonds in large part because your recreational department responds so well to the needs of the local citizenry. My family and I strongly support conversion of Yost Pool to a year round facility. We would be glad to volunteer time on a task force, or help in other ways, if so needed. We urge you to vote to increase recreational opportunities for the people of Edmonds, and to start with Yost Pool. Thank you. Sincerely, t Maureen Pierre COUNCILMEMBER DWYER THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. MOTION CARRIED. (Councilmember Nord- quist arrived at this time, 8:15 p.m.) HEARING ON COVERING YOSi PARK POOL Parks and Recreation Director Steve Simpson said he receives more requests to cover the pool than any other thing in his department. The cost of covering it would range from $450,000 for a "bare bones" cover to $1,200,000 for a cover designed specifically for Yost Pool. A new covered pool would cost between $1,200,000 and $1,800,000. Parking and access are adequate at Yost Park, but not ideal, for an intensely used pool. These facts had been discussed at Council meetings several times in recent months. The hearing was opened. Shirley Murdock, 716 9th Ave. S., represented a group of swimmers who have been swimming for 10-15 years in the area, and she said Edmonds has provided them with a facility for three months of the year and they feel badly that the facility is deterio- rating while other surrounding communities are providing excellent swimming facilities for their citizens. She said the pool is needed for recreation as well as for other things such as release from stress and physical therapy. She said it is used by young people as well as older people, and they want to do all they can to maintain the facility. Mr. Simpson noted that the Public Works Department is authorized this year to spend up to $140,000 for repairs and improvements to the pool, so it will be in good shape by the time it opens this summer. He hopes to expand the deck area and the fenced area. Win Kidd, 21628 96th Ave. W., near the pool, said it is essential that the pool stay open and in good repair as it is necessary for the young people in this town. She said the citizens had worked hard to get the pool and it should be kept in good condition. She felt there to be lots of ways to raise money for covering it. Jan Kavadas, 217 Alder, said she swims everyday and is in a master swimming program, now swimming at 5:30 a.m. She said one gets in the habit of swimming at one pool and she felt covering the pool would increase the patronage. Dorothy Baker, 1511 8th Pl. S., swims because she has arthritis and can use less medication by swimming. She said her son got his entire college education by swimming. She said a swimming pool is a very beneficial thing, for the health and welfare of individuals and for the future of the children and grandchildren, and it tells the world the City cares about its citizens, just as the way park facilities and schools are cared for reflects that. She also felt it to be an investment and a good selling point for property. Penny Lyons, 9232 Bowdoin, has three children and said she is tired of driving them to Mountlake Terrace. They have only been to the Yost Pool about five times during the summer. She noted that the argument has been raised that covering the pool would increase the traffic on her street, but she lives there and wants to negate that. She was surprised that more people were not present for this hearing, and she com- mented that there is a tremendous swimming program during the summer. She thought the City should do something to provide this source of recreation for the children. Will Smith, 732 Bell, formerly residing close to the pool, said the underlying issue is the cost to operate the pool over and above what it can bring in as revenue. He said the Council has the responsibility to operate the pool to the best of their ability and they also have the responsibility to maintain budgetary restraints. He said the parking is not adequate for an intensely used pool. Mr. Simpson said the parking has been adequate inasmuch as the pool has been operating for ten years with no complaints to his knowledge about parking, and the theory is that if covered it would not generate more use than on its peak days during the summer. Mr. Smith went on to say that Mr. Simpson had indicated that the pool cannot break even without the addition of new amenities, but he felt an expanded facility would not be compatible with the park aspect. He noted that in the past he had presented petitions signed by people who did not want to see the park developed further. However, should there be a proposal for a covered pool or the addition of other things, he said he would like to help. He is an architect and said he could develop some basic concepts and probably save the City the costs of some expensive consulting services. He said he did not want to fight the idea of developing Yost Park but he wants to help the Council see what will happen if they do develop it. EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 3 - March 6, 1984 Mayor Pro tem Jaech read a letter from Maureen Pierre, supporting conversion of Yost Pool to a year-round facility and offering time on a task force or other needed help. Peter Ruckert, 807 7th Ave. S., suggested that if the pool did not cover its own costs that it should be subsidized by other park facilities. He thought it a normal obligation of the Parks Department to make these things available, and he noted that when the pool is open in the summer there are other things people can do but in the winter there are not many things to do so it would be a benefit to have the pool. Bill Tyler, 8024 215th S.W., a member of the committee appointed by the Council to study the civic center playfield, said they have also looked into some things that can happen with Yost Pool and he suggested no action be taken until the report from the committee is heard. He said one of the things in their report has to do with whether a scheme can be incorporated that will include a new pool at the playfield, in an entirely new environment and making it more centrally located and causing less impact to Yost park. Dan Kidd, 21628 96th W., said he is very involved with the youth in this area and many of them are speaking out strongly asking what Edmonds is doing for them. They are asking if Edmonds is turning into a retirement community and what is Edmonds doing for the youth. He said they need something strong and big which the other towns seem to be providing. He felt that anytime something is given to the youth somebody has to complain about it. He observed that Yost Park is in an area with no traffic problems and that people will find a place to park and then walk to the pool if that is necessary. The hearing was closed. Mr. Simpson was asked if Mountlake Terrace has increased attendance at their pool during the winter, and he replied that typically a covered pool gets more use in off seasons because there is not much else to do. He said Yost Pool will have some summers of more use than others, but overall if the pool is covered there still will be more summer use, but they will not get the peaks they now get in exceptionally good weather. He observed that the summers here are cool and there are very few warm days. He could not project what the usage would be by those people now going to Mountlake Terrace or Lynnwood. Councilmember Dwyer found it difficult to picture any sort of cost effective use. He swims daily but now swims at the YMCA rather than going outside of Edmonds, and he recognized a number of the people testifying this evening. Mr. Simpson noted that the $450,000 cover would be a "bare bones" cover and to add a sauna and jacuzzi would not be expensive but would attract people. He noted that additional facilities to draw people reduce the difference in operating costs and revenue. Regarding the repairs to the pool, he said they have to wait for good weather before they can do some of the repairs. The pool is usually opened the first week of June and he does not expect a delay this year. No action was taken on this item, and the next discussion will be that of the Civic Center playfield which will include some discussion regarding the pool. MAYOR Mayor Pro tem Jaech asked Mr. Wallace to remind Mr. Eames that the Council will be reviewing the Planning Board recommendations regarding the Sign Code on March 27, and Mr. Eames is to provide a recommendation on what can be done regarding existing nonconforming signs. Mayor Pro tem Jaech noted that the Edmonds Chamber of Commerce and the Edmonds Business Association will not be prepared to present their report next week, so she suggested the Council may wish to cancel that meeting. She has scheduled the Chamber MOTION: and Business Association for April 24. COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY Failed COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST, TO CANCEL THE SPECIAL MEETING OF MARCH 12, 1984. A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN, WITH COUNCILMEMBERS KASPER, NORDQUIST, AND JAECH VOTING YES, AND WITH COUNCILMEMBERS HALL, WILSON, DWYER, AND OSTROM VOTING NO. MOTION FAILED. Mayor Pro tem Jaech noted that Mayor Naughten had scheduled the next Town Hall , 7,12"meeting for May 1 in the Ballinger area. Councilmember Ostrom said it was his understanding that the Town Hall meetings would be in addition to regular Council meetings but they are being substituted which detracts from the amount of time the Council has to act on regular City business. He thinks the Town Hall meeting concept is excellent, but that such meetings should not replace regular City Council meetings. EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 4 - March 6, 1984 March 1, 1984 MEMO TO: Larry S. Naughten Mayor FROM: Stephen 0. Simpson, Director Parks and Recreation Department SUBJECT: HEARING ON COVERING YOST PARK POOL Council requested a hearing to be held March 6 for citizens to comment on covering Yost Pool. This item has been discussed by Council and Staff a number of times in the last six months. Information from these discussions is summarized as follows: 1. Covering Yost Pool is part of the city's six -year Parks and Recreation Capital Improvements Program. 2. Public pools do not break even on their costs of operation unless they have other athletic and recreation facilities located adjacent to them. 3. It will cost from $100,000 to $120,000 more than revenue per year to operate Yost Pool as a year-round, stand alone facility. Yost Pool now costs about $30,000 (total expenditures over revenue). 4. The cost of an acceptable pool enclosure is between $450,000 for a "bare bones" cover, to as much as $1,200,000 for a cover designed specifically for Yost Pool. A new covered pool would cost between $1,200,000 and $1,800,000. 5. Parking and access is adequate but not ideal at Yost Park for an intensively used pool. 6. The pool, now ten years old, requires repair to the tank, decking, and locker room roof. Money has been budgeted and repairs are being scheduled by the Public Works Department. Some of the alternatives the city can choose from are: 1. Cover Yost Pool. This would require choosing the type of cover and the pre- ferred method of financing the project. 2. Decide to not cover Yost Pool, but instead make less expensive improvements that will enhance summer revenue. 3. Endorse the idea of providing a covered public pool in Edmonds, but at another location (Civic Center Park). E SOS/mw SOS/mw Councilmember Kasper recalled that 14-15 months ag❑ the Council went on record that they were interested in what the Port was doing and were interested in having as much open space as possible so they commented against covered moorage because that would take away from open space. He said that basically, from what he saw, they were looking for not blocking the waterfront from being walked along, and many of the things the Council asked for had been considered in this project. He did not recall discussion of a small boat launch, but he did not think they had asked for that. MOTION: COUNCILMEMBER HALL MOVED, SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST, TO APPROVE THE THREE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS, AS PRESENTED BY THE PORT AND THE STAFF AND AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING BOARD. Councilmember Nordquist asked if the motion included all of the areas described and Councilmember Hall said it did. Councilmember Kasper asked why the entire CW zone was brought into this, and Ms. Block replied that someone redeveloping Andy's Marina, for instance, or some other place may want to include some moorage, and there did not seem to be reasons to preclude an applicant from applying to include that kind of moorage. She said the original application included the entire area. Councilmember Jaech asked if this was only a Code change and not approval of what the Port is doing, and Ms. Block said that was correct. Mr. Eames stated that the Depart- ment of Ecology which acts as a supervisor in shoreline matters has indicated this is not a proper subject for a variance and it could only be done by a Code change. Mr. Carpenter added that they had asked for a Code change because the Department of Ecology indicated they would have to have it. Mr. Eames stated that if the Council were going to say this particular Code amendment would only apply to certain properties in the City they would have to have reason for distinguishing this property from the others in the CW zone because at some point the City made the determination that properties in the CW zone are similar and therefore should be treated similarly. So, to limit it further, he said they would have to make a differentiation in the CW zone between the Port area and the Laebugten area. Councilmember Kasper thought a valid limit may be to areas abutting CG or BC zones. A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN ON THE MOTION, WITH ALL COUNCILMEMBERS VOTING YES. Mr. Carpenter added that what the Council was doing was to make this Code more like other cities' shorelines codes. MAYOR Mayor Naughten announced that he had received a letter from Police Chief Marlo Foster stating his intent to retire on March 31, 1984. Councilmember Nordquist asked if it was the Mayor's intent, before publishing to fill the position, to consider a change in organization, thinking perhaps of a Public Safety Director. Mayor Naughten said that will be discussed at the February 25 Mayor/Council workshop. Mayor Naughten advised that on February 16 he will be attending the AWC Legislative Conference in Olympia, and he invited any of the Council to join him. Mayor Naughten announced a brief Executive Session following this meeting to discuss recent developments in the labor negotiations. Student Representative Brian Stewart asked when questions should be in for the upcoming questionnaire, what they should be about, and if the results will be back before the retreat. Mayor Naughten responded that they should all be in by the end of February and should be the kind of questions the members feel are important for them as planners in making decisions for the City, and possibly about some of the issues now before the Council. He expected that the results would be back by the time of the retreat. Councilmember Hall acknowledged receipt of a letter from Aleta Mueller, an independent contractor in the recreation field, who highly praised Risa Eckes who recently terminated her employment with the City. Ms. Mueller commented on the organization, cooperation, and supportive attitude of Ms. Eckes, but she also commented that the combined efforts and enthusiasm of everyone working in the Parks and Recreation Department make it the smoothest running recreation program she has seen. Councilmember Hall noted that there is another bill in the legislature providing for six months' disability leave equivalent to what the LEOFF I people receive, and a person could earn more than his regular salary because there would be no deductions. She suggested legislators might be written to let them know the Councilmembers' thoughts on it. Council President Jaech noted that next week's agenda has numerous hearings on it, and she suggested moving the hearing. -on -covering Yost Pool to March 6- COUNCILMEMBER MOTION: KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO MOVE THAT ITEM TO MARCH 6. MOTION a-tk CARRIED. EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 6 - January 31, 1984 THESE MINUTES SUBJECT TO JANUAI 7 APPROVAL EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES. January 10, 1984 (Work Meeting) The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Mayor Larry Naughten in the Plaza Meeting Room of the Edmonds Library. All present joined in the flag salute. PRESENT Larry Naughten, Mayor Jo -Anne Jaech Laura Hall John Nordquist Bill Kasper Jack Wilson Lloyd Ostrom Brian Stewart, Student Representative CDNSFNT AGENDA STAFF PRESENT Art Housler, Finance Director Irene Varney Moran, City Clerk Bobby Mills, Acting Public Works Pat LeMay, Personnel Director Jack Weinz, Fire Chief Marlo Foster, Police Chief Steve Simpson, Parks & Recreation Jim Jessel, Property Manager Mary Lou Block, Planning Director Mark Eames, City Attorney Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk Supt. Director MOTION: COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The approved items on the Consent Agenda included the following: (A) Roll call. (B) Approval of Minutes of January 3, 1984. (C) Set date of January 31, 1984 for hearing to establish one-way traffic on alley between 2nd and 3rd Aves. N. and Bell and Edmonds Sts. The next item on the agenda was a Personnel Committee meeting, but COUNCILMEMBER MOTION: NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO MOVE THAT ITEM TO THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE "MAYOR" AND "COUNCIL." MOTION CARRIED. REPORT ON COSTS FOR COVERING YOST POOL Parks and Recreation Director Steve Simpson presented an update on the costs of covering the pool, comparing costs of an air supported cover, a prefabricated cover, and a fixed support with other features (racquetball courts, sauna, jacuzzi, etc.). He also provided anticipated revenue figures from each type of facility and the projected net income/subsidy which could be expected from each. For the pool with an air support cover he anticipated the City would have to subsidize in the amount of $105,000, for the pool with a prefabricated cover he anticipated a subsidy in the amount of $84,400 would be necessary, and for the pool with a fixed support cover and the other revenue producing features he anticipated that the pool would generate income in the amount of $19,600. His figures were based on information from other municipalities with covered pools. He noted that a new facility incorporating state-of-the-art attractions and cost -saving features would likely do better than pools in other cities have done. He also provided figures for making repairs and additions to the pool for continued uncovered operation. Repairs are anticipated to cost between $91,000 - $142,000 and improvements $32,000. He also provided material from two suppliers of pool cover structures, the air support type of structure and the prefabricated type of structure. He was asked how the Pac-West (Pacific West Sport & Racquet Club) development in Lynnwood would affect the use of Yost Pool and he had not taken that into consideration, having only just heard of plans for it. Councilmember Kasper had conversed with someone from Pac-West and had been told that Edmonds is an entirely different market from Lynnwood and he had the impression that if the City did not develop the pool then Pac-West may at some time in the future come into Edmonds if a suitable location could be found. Mr. Simpson noted that a sports club would target a different clientele than a municipal pool, and that was acknowledged. Wendy Wahl, former Student Representative to the City Council, and now speaking for the Youth Board, said her presentation had not taken Pac-West into consideration. She said the Youth Board had reviewed the issue and discussed it with many people -- peers as well as parents and other adults. They are aware that the cost of covering the pool will be the biggest drawback. They do not think getting help from the school district is the answer because it would limit the use of the pool. If it were covered, they thought the Sun/Fun (prefabricated structure) price range to be the most reasonable and saw no value in the air supported structures. They recognized that the cost of the fixed support structure with additional features was excessive. Ms. Wahl thought that if Pac-West did not develop in Edmonds the existing pool should either be covered or closed. In discussing this issue she said that she, herself, tried to talk to people of all ages. She received no feedback regarding paying for it, but she felt that anything would be less expensive than going to an athletic club. She did not believe a user fee would deter people, and she thought the facility would bring new life into the bowl. Councilmember Kasper clarified that there is no indication that Pac-West will be coming into Edmonds but that they did indicate Edmonds is a separate market from Lynnwood. Councilmember Nordquist observed that the revenue generation will be the problem. He was also concerned about access to the parking lot for the pool. He had visited both the Lynnwood pool and that in Mountlake Terrace and observed that there is no problem with ingress/egress at Lynnwood but at Mountlake Terrace where the parking lot is used jointly with the school district there is a problem. Mr. Simpson agreed that parking is a concern, and he had discussed it with some architects who indicated that the parking is adequate, based on the usage during the summer months now. Usage is at its peak during those months and parking has been adequate, and the reasoning is that usage for a covered pool will not be greater than it is in the peak summer months for an uncovered pool. Councilmember Hall said financing would have to be discussed and if it were decided that the pool should be covered she would not be opposed to Councilmanic bonds; however, she said public hearings would be necessary before making a decision. She noted that a segment of the public had been asking for this service but the Council would have to listen to more of the public. In the meantime, she noted that there are repairs to the pool to be considered. Mr. Simpson said they should consider whether to (1) leave the pool as it is, (2) cover it only, or (3) cover it and add MOTION: the amenities. COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO SCHEDULE >y �7L,, _A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 7, 1984. MOTION CARRIED. An outline will be prepared for the hearing. DISCUSSION ON REPORT FROM COMMITTEE REGARDING CIVIC CENTER FIELD Bruce Dees, consulting landscape architect, discussed the findings and the preliminary recommendations of the Civic Center Citizen Committee. A detailed report had been provided to the Council. Mr. Dees noted that the site is primarily used for programmed sports (adult softball, adult soccer, and Little League), and that the running track is not used for competitive events except occasionally by Holy Rosary Parochial School, but it is used by joggers of all ages. Also, the grandstand is old and in need of general repair, with the City currently repairing the roof. The grandstand is used sparingly by adult soccer spectators and youth soccer spectators, but its primary use is as a storage warehouse for the City. Two tennis courts and a multipurpose court are used by the entire community. The Boys' Club building is operated and maintained by the Boys' Club. In general, he said all field areas and facilities are in need of repair --for drainage, uneven field surfaces and overall aesthetics. The committee had followed a systematic approach to determine the needs/concerns of each interest group; determine design criteria regarding layout of the site, the program of activities, rules, and scheduling; explore alternative solutions; and formulate recommendations, considering long term vs. short term, permanent vs. temporary, and expensive vs. inexpensive. Their conclusions were described in two schemes. Scheme A, relocating the existing uses within the playfield was described, as was Scheme B, urban park/new athletic fields. Their recommendations by priority were: (1) Scheme B (but basic to the recommendation is the development of the fields at Woodway simul- taneously or before eliminating organized adult softball and soccer from the Civic Center Playfield); (2) Redevelop Civic Center Playfield (with minimum investment) as an interim response to needs while Scheme B is planned; and (3) Scheme A with major emphasis on providing quality playing fields. Mr. Dees acknowledged that there could be a potential problem with the neighbors of the Woodway property but he said the configuration allows access without going through the residential area. He noted that a use agreement would be necessary for the continued use of the field should the school close. The plan was well received by the Council. Councilmember Ostrom liked the direction of the planning --to lower the intensity of use at the Civic Center Field and eliminate the lights. Councilmember Jaech favored the plan, noting that it addresses the problems and gives expanded facilities. Councilmember Kasper said the only way to approach this is to move toward Woodway, but he thought the 38-year lease remaining on the playfield should be resolved as he did not feel the City should put EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 2 - January 10, 1984 January 5, 1984 MEMO TO: Larry S. Naughten Mayor FROM: Stephen 0. Simpson, Director Parks and Recreation Department SUBJECT: REPORT ON COSTS FOR COVERING YOST POOL Attached is additional information requested by City Council for the study of whether to cover Yost Park Pool. The figures for revenues and operation costs of covered pools are taken from other municipalities. A new facility incorporating state of the art attractions and cost -saving features will likely do better than pools in other cities. If the City decides to further consider covering the pool, the next step should be to get an accurate construction cost estimate for the chosen design or designs. I will be available to present rough designs and estimates from two suppliers of pool cover structures at the Tuesday meeting. r :1 SOS/mw Attachments PREPARATION NEEDED TO CONSTRUCT PERMANENT POOL STRUCTURE 1. Review: a. Types of pool structures available. b. Level of development wanted at Yost Pool. c. Financial considerations for new construction, and repairs and improvements necessary for continued operation. 2. Decide whether the City wants to cover Yost Pool. 3. If Yes a. Decide on the type of structure and level of development wanted. b. Choose architect to refine de- sign. Make an accurate cost estimate. c. Decide on method of financing. d. Obtain financing. e. Construct pool cover, additions, and make repairs. 4. Open pool to the public. T 1 .1_ a. Design revised entry and cover for upper deck. b. Repair tank and tile. c. Design additions and changes to deck and facilities. d. Construct additions and changes. SOS/mw REPAIRS AND ADDITIONS TO YOST POOL FOR CONTINUED UNCOVERED OPERATION 1. Leak repair. An accurate estimate will not be obtainable until the pool can be warmed, the blanket removed and divers able to get into it for tests. While repairs may cost under $10,000, it could range up to $35,000. 2. Cover upper deck and redesign entry (included in pool cover). 3. Replace pool decking (adding expansion joints). 4. Retile gutter or replace gutter material. 5. Improvements: Expand fenced area Expand deck Add spa Miscellaneous improvements, i.e. signs, landscaping SOS/mw TOTAL REPAIRS $ 3,000 8,000 18,000 3,000 $10,000 to $ 35,000 $50,000 to $ 70,000 $19 ,000 $12,000 $91,000 to $142,000 $32 ,000 1983 COSTS OF YOST POOL OPERATION Utilities Telephones Personnel Maintenance Equipment & Supplies Yost Pool 1983 Revenue TOTAL $ 12,850 670 19,500 13,200 nrn $ 47,070 $ 24,857 SOS/mw POOL COVER CONSTRUCTION ANNUAL DEBT PAYMENT FROM ALTERNATIVES (A) (B) (C) AIR SUPPORT PREFABRICATED FIXED SUPPORT STRUCTURE STRUCTURE STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION COST: $ 200,000 $ 600,000 $ 1,800,000 FINANCING: I. 3-YEAR BANK LOAN @ 84%, NO DOWN 77,700 - - II. COUNCILMANIC BONDS 5-YEAR @ 7 ,% 49,400 - - 10-YEAR @ 8% - 89,500 268,250 15-YEAR @ 9% - 74,500 223,200 POOL COVER OPERATING INCOME/EXPENSES FROM ALTERNATIVES (A) (B) (C) AIR SUPPORT PREFABRICATED FIXED SUPPORT COVER ONLY COVER ONLY WITH RACQUETBALL COURTS SAUNA, JACUZZI, ETC. INCOME: AQUATIC PROGRAMS $ 105,000 $ 126,600 $ 161,700 ATHLETIC PROGRAMS - - 53,900 TOTAL INCOME $ 105,000 $ 126,600 $ 215,600 EXPENSE: STAFFING $ 85,000 $ 96,000 $ 96,000 UTILITIES 105,000 95,000 80,000 SUPPLIES 10,000 10,000 10,000 MAINTENANCE 10,000 10,000 10,000 TOTAL EXPENSES $ 210,000 $ 211,000 $ 196,000 NET INCOME/<SUBSIDY> $ <1051000> $ < 84,400> $ 19,600 Imaginative use of swimming facilities can make money Use Your Pool To Generate Profits, Offset Program Losses Many Canadian facilities are learning that there is money to be made from "profit centers" like food and drink concessions, equipment rentals, arcade games and vending machines, as well as court charges. By Doug Paton Aquatic Facility Consultant Aquatic activity is the most popular form of participatory recreation in North America, according to many surveys and studies. Leisure dollars play a highly significant role in our economy. For some years now, communities and their elected officials have struggled with something called a "user - pay" approach to delivery of recreation be it in parks, at community centres, or special events activities. All too often this "user -pay" concept gets bogged down in emo- tion and philosophy that somehow ends up costing the taxpayers more in the long run than any short-term gains at the turnstiles or cash registers. Examination of some of our most successful corpora- tions might show that those who survive best, parcel out their operations into geographic and/or product line ter- ritories and the quality control group or management team accountable for the 'territory' must conduct their ac- tivity as a cell or center, If the center does not produce a profit after a given time and level of expertise, then heads roll and the unit is either closed out or given over to another manager or director of operations. Allow Your Directors Financial Autonomy A few enterprising Recreation and Parks departments are currently dabbling in this type of approach by giving a community centre director, say, complete financial au- tonomy over his facility and its progams excluding capital depreciation or major repairs. If he or she can't break even during a fiscal year, then a transfer is made or steps taken to ensure a zero -base type of operation. Tradition -bound recreationists and administrators balk in fear over this seeming cut-throat approach. Of course some of the unwary program staff can't seem to accept that if only twelve people register for the fitness class, it is cancelled as it is not financially successful. The really sad observations are outdoor pools on a cool day when five lifeguards are huddled at their stations while four people brave the cool air to splash about in the public pool that costs over 535 per hour to heat. More shocking is to see four or five youngsters per swimming instructor taking lessons for 10 hours at a course fee of $10 when you know that instructor is being paid $8.50 per hour! At least when 12 youngsters are playing a hockey game on a full sired indoor rink, maybe only one As communities struggle to cut costs, user/pay philosophies hang on, but many consider corporate approach staff person is on duty in the arena and it is 5:30 AM so ice time is only costing them $50 per hour... but still, is it cost effective? There is no question that even the most successful companies have segments of their operations that are ab- solutely essential yet these areas lose money per se. Research and development, personnel services, advertis- ing, accounting, staff training and many others never are intended to pay their own way. However, this burden or overhead is spread out across the entire operational base and the big ticket items where profits of the order of 100 to 200 percent are made, tend to offset the losses in the other sectors. 40 DECEMBER, 1983 CJ Don't Accept Cash Loss, As A "Fact Of Life" What is wrong with recreation, of course, is that profit is a bad word while user -pay or break-even, or even zero - base is more palpable. Government departments must not be seen to be greedy or profit -motivated. We tend to ac- cept huge cost over -runs and deficits as a political fact -of - life when it comes to government activity. Of course this may account for much of our poor economic fate of late! One Canadian community (which remains anony- mous) hired a new Recreation and Parks Commissioner whose first major change order came in the form of ob- taining liquor permits for the entrance foyers and special occasion liquor permits for each and every special event "Profit" still considered a bad word among many in recreation circles, but program losses can be overcome. at the arena, park or pool. He arranged the location of the bar and tables near washrooms (which was required by law in any event) and in such a manner that to enter the arena floor for the tournament or trade show, every pay- ing customer had to pass through or directly around the tables. Needless to say, profits were made and no drunk- en orgies resulted. This was in a very conservative, mid- sized Canadian community! The Montreal Forum is a popular gathering place for special events. Try getting to your seat without passing a Start Planning Now For... APF SPORTS FACILITIES MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE April 1 & 2, 1984 • Toronto stand-up bar or snack food counter with aromatic grilled hot dogs and popcorn odor hitting you full blast. It's im- possible! Ever been to a movie theatre where the popcorn stand is tucked away in a corner out of sight? Never hap- pens! With Some Imagination, The Possibilities Are Unlimited Go to a public pool with a food basket and wine flask in tow? At most Canadian and American public pools, you'll be told to leave. But there are notable exceptions and those same public pools do very well financially. In Saskatchewan, there are municipal pools with town -sup- plied barbeque equipment within the pool enclosure. In Niagara Falls some years ago, liquor was served on the pool tile deck to conference attendees in street clothing. No problems! There are major public pools now that allow smoking on the deck and even street shoes along marked out walk- ways. In Western Canada, a chain of 8 to 10 Courtyard Inns enjoys excellent occupancy rates over their less im- aginative rivals. These new Inns have indoor gardens, pools, waterfalls, bars, bridges, conversation pools, jog- ging lane pools, arcade games, piano bars, subdued light- ing effects and much more; all indoors, and all-around water play activity. What then are the profit -centers that can be identified at public pools complexes that will offset the losses of the more traditional (and essential) programming activity? Coin Lockers: Somewhat questionable, I believe, when costs of constant repairs are considered. Many class (Continued on next page) UNIVERSAL POOL COVERS SAVE ENERGY Inside or Outside Reduce heating costs 40 to 60% Reduce chemical use Lightweight — floats on surface of pool ■ Easy installation and removal ■ Portable, stainless steel storage reels For more information, call or write The Specialists in Pool Energy Conservation. We meet your needs and your budget. WILLIAM M. SMITH & ASSOCIATES, INC. Washington (206) 454-9139 Toll Free Call 1-800-426-9460 ATHLETIC PURCHASING & FACILITIES 41 Most facilities haw z many potential profit centers (Continued from page 41) groups and children won't use them as they have no valu- ables to lock up in any event. Food & Drink: Research has shown that people tend to eat and drink after a period of one to three hours at a facility. Never tender out such concessions. Use the ob- vious profits to offset losses in other areas. Coin Games: Video and arcade games may have a place in your financial plan but could be blocked by an in- dignant political decision. Vending Machines: Often a pain in the neck, but many facilities plan and design such equipment properly and the profits are there. Courts: Squash, paddle tennis, deck tennis, handball and racquetball are good profit -centered facilities. Again, have enough of them and ensure a premium charge for prime times and competitions. Sub -Outlets: Glass mobile counters and other areas can be set up for retail sales of sports equipment and clothing. Placed so that desk duty staff can man them, a Your facility can be rented out for private lessons and parties at premium rates during off hours certain profit -center. Stock selection and control takes time and experience to turn a good profit but it can be done. Sun Lamps: Over $2,500 profit per month per unit is possible using the new UV-B set up available now from Sweden and Europe. Private Lessons: Off hours, staff can rent back the facility and charge premium rates to give private instruc- tion. Everybody makes money on this scheme but it must be controlled or it could get out -of -hand. Private Parties: Why close a facility for 1/3 of the day or more when top dollar can be charged for big -spender private socials and the like? Try and do what the hotels do by providing the food and drink. Parking: Per car fee or per occupant fee can be charged in some cases, particularly for valet parking. Park- ing meters have been installed near some community centres. Equipment Rentals: Fitness testing equipment, hair dryers, racquets, rafts, (for wave action pools), video re- corders, cameras, and so forth will generate a profit. Souvenirs: Caps, Tee shirts, sweaters, track suits, cap badges, visors; buttons, bumper stickers and so forth can not only help advertise your facility but generate profits to help offset losses in other areas. Spectators: Many free form and wave action pools in the United Kingdom and Europe charge a fee to sit and watch the activities. If it is worth watching, it is worth paying admission. Perhaps the largest deficits are attributed to competi- tive sports. it is clear from every angle, that about 95% of all public swimming pools are designed for only 5% of the swimming population or target group. The competitive teams also, of course, demand the prime times for workouts at a minimum or subsidized rental rate. This Y Reaps Financial Success By Discouraging Competitive Elite Events The international award -winning Kaufman Family Y in Kitchener, Canada, was designed to specifically discour- age competitive events at the elite level. The jogging track was not banked, there are no full court basketball backboards in the field house, no starting blocks in the 4 lane 20.0 m pool, and no competitive diving tower. Yet there are six change rooms, a large unisex weight train- ing/fitness lab, day care, snack bars, glassed -in viewing area as well as on deck seating. The waiting lists for mem- bership tell the tale! A financial success even before the close of the first fiscal year end. In New Brunswick, the 1985 Canada Games Pools are connected directly with the very attractive and profitable Market Square complex which links a major hotel, con- vention centre, hundreds of stores and specialty shops, banks, City Hall, and the entire downtown waterfront area. The pools will have temporary seating for the games but the three level facility will hopefully be the centre for family recreation once the competitions are finished in August 1985. A multi -level series of free form pools with a jogging tank, conversation pool, bridges, water falls and tot's play pool all complement the 8 lane 51-metre com- petitive pool. This year, the tendered cost for the pools was under $900,000 due to an aggressive invited bidder tendering process. In fact only 2.38 percent separated the prices of the two bidders who pre -qualified. Raft Rides, Wave -Action Pools Are Profit Centers At Water Theme -Parks The profit centers at most major water theme parks in the USA are the flume or raft rides and of course, the wave action pool. Attractive sunning, walking, sliding and just splashing about areas are set apart by carpeted decks, flagstone walkways, benches, and shade areas with picnic tables. Water coasters that can accommodate up to 300 users per hour and wave action pools that will comfort - A $3.3 million aquatic facility might be paid off in 5-6 years, thanks to innovative policies ably hold 500 or 600 rafters can generate significant prof- its. In Hamilton, Canada, thanks to a sunny and warm summer, talk is that the capital costs of the $1.3 million pool and $2.0 million bath house and landscape facility might be fully paid back to the Regional Government (that merely 'loaned' them the money) within 5 or 6 years at no interest. Raft rentals, bathing suit sales, sun tan oil sales, and of course the food and beverage concession all generate sig- nificant profits. Special group and party rates help to fill off -hours and season passes likewise should produce a profit.. Any day that the weather produces a minimum bather load, the facility is shut down to avoid cost over- runs. Q.C.C. (quality control circles) is a currently popular management tool to maximize productivity and quality 42 DECEMBER, 1983 W services notably in Japanese inclL . Many North Ameri- can enterprises are trying to emulate this approach but it must be remembered that in Japan, a core of workers at a company forms the basic "family." unit and the workers are essentially hired for life, But, much of the other pro- duction and retooling work at these highly successful Japanese plants is carried out under contract to transient workers and other specialists. Discourage competitive sports — they demand prime pool times at low, subsidized rates. At swimming facilities, the hiring under contract of specialist personnel is not new but the success has been limited. With automatic chemical processors and under- water cleaning inlets, some municipalities engage service technical staff that travel from facility to facility perform- ing the same special tasks at each; checking fluid levels. temperature settings, chemical feed rates, and inspection of cleanliness. Water Coasters Can Handle 360 Riders Per Hour Further cost savings are obvious when volunteer coaches and instructors are used. Additional revenues YOUR IND PROBLEM SOLVER If you are looking for a product and can't find it. Call us for our free LOCATOR SERVICE AMUMM PUNc AMD FACL1"ES 1842 Hoffman St. Madison, Wisconsin 53704 6081249-0186 might be general_.. by the addition of single channel water flume rides using fourth generation epoxy or acrylic slide components that can be shaped and attached to support members along the roof and wail systems of the natatorium. Make up and balance tanks can be used to pump the flume water to the start of the slide ride near a roof corner. The shallow area splash down for such slides is surprisingly small, thus a roped off area at a corner of the shallow end can suffice. Pools longer than 25 metres with 10-metre towers might consider the installation of a Rampage water coaster which handles 360 paying riders per hour. Zero in on the profit center aspects of swimming pools and apply the profits to the more traditional deficit forming programs to arrive at a net break-even point at worst, profit at best. y n out the Author g Paton for over 27 years has been involved with the design, operation, and management of over 250 J,pubfic indoor and outdoor aquatic centres across I -Canada. As vice-president of the loaring Group, he also Virepresented' WaveTek in Canada and was project ex- rnecutive for the 1983 NSPI Gold Medal -winning public dndoorpool at Kitchener. To date, 4 new indoor aquatic r feisure centres in Canada are under design andlor con- tstnxtion using Doug's expertise and experience as a tconsultant and educator. A COMPLETE LINE OF SPORTS SCORE BOARDS BASKETBALL BASEBALL FOOTBALL SWIMMING EQUESTRIAN ELECTRONIC DISPLAY SYSTEMS,�. SOLID STATE ELECTRONICS HIGHEST RELIABILITY LONGEST LIFE RECOGNIZED WORLDWIDE FOR SCORE BOARDS IN THE USA, EUROPE. JAPAN. & ASSOCIATES G. Fink b Associates 650 Vaqueros Avenue, Suite G Sunnyvale, CA 94086 (408) 773-1717 ATHLETIC PURCHASING & FACILITIES Circle 42 on the Information Request Card 43 0 0 HEARING ON FEASIBILITY AND CONCEPT OF COVERING YOST POOL Parks and Recreation Director Steve Simpson noted that this issue began because of the needed repairs to the pool. He said there are three major questions to be answered regarding covering the pool: (1) Is there a need and community support? (2) How to pay for it if covered? (3) How will it look if covered? He noted that if it is covered that will only be the first expense as operating costs are one of the ongoing expenses and more money goes into those than into the capital improvements. He said a rule of thumb is 1/7 of the cost each year for operation, so he said design is critical. Mr. Simpson gave a slide presentation to demonstrate some of the pool covers on the market now. He also noted that the entire pool system needs to be tested to determine the extent of the needed repairs and such testing will cost approximately $800. He recommended spending the $800 to determine the repair costs which he said will have to be done unless the pool is closed. He said he could invite Bob Bignold to give a presentation on swimming pools. Mr. Bignold of O.R.B. had conducted a seminar on pool renovations recently which Mr. Simpson had attended. Councilmember Jaech had met a man who worked with the construction company that constructed the pool and he had told her that the cavity beneath the pool had been filled with cement so if cracks go all the way down it could be quite expensive to repair. Mr. Simpson had provided a listing of different methods of covering the pool which provided cost ranges, and he did not recommend anything less than the Solar Sun/Fun Structure on that listing as to quality. He had discussed the pool with Dr. Reasby and the school district property manager as to the possibility of trading the pool and although they are interested in the pool development, they probably are not interested to the degree as the City would be as they want something for training but not necessarily for recreation. They want to wait and see what the City decides to do, and if the City decides not to cover it then they will discuss the possible trade, but they do not want to put a lot of money into it. The hearing was opened. Bill Leraas, 21224 86th W., representing a group of adult swimmers who use the Mountlake Terrace pool, said they would like to use the Edmonds pool if it were operating. He referred to the O.R.B. report and discussed the various figures for each option. He favored covering the pool because he likes to swim, and he said even if the facilities are shut down they would probably still be paying on the bonds which were sold to build the pool originally, and the costs involved will be ongoing. He said it is only open three months per year for the costs involved. He favored covering the pool and said his group would support it if put on the ballot. Will Smith, 732 Bell, said this is the same proposal discussed a year ago when a private developer was sought to do it. He said this proposal upset him very much. He used to live near the pool and he said the people in the surrounding neighborhood are not interested in having the park developed into a health center and petitions had been submitted to that effect. He recognized that the emphasis in having all the activities in one place made sense in terms of the operation of the facility, but he said this is a residential area and this will be an intrusion on that neighborhood and the City has a responsibility to the character of the neighborhood. He thought this to be totally ridiculous and he said the pool has certain amenities in being open which will not be there if it is covered. Because of cost, he said the end product would probably be a basic type of construction, rather than one of the more glamorous designs shown, and parking and vandalism will have to be considered. He felt such facilities should not be in residential neighborhoods but instead should be in business areas. He suggested that if it cannot be maintained it should be filled up and things could be planted over it. Harry Bower, 9325 Bowdoin, 3/4 of a block from the pool, said he enjoys the pool very much and it is an added amenity to the community. He had experienced no disturbances from users of the pool. He said many of the community pools are in residential areas to serve that community, and he named some of them. He favored covering the pool and he said it would be nice to have removable roofs but it should be designed for the environmental situation. He favored an architecturally designed, quality facility. Roger Hertrich, 1020 Puget Dr., said he is from a swimming family and indorses swimming pools. He felt it unfortunate that the pool was built at that location as any addition of other facilities will increase parking requirements and trees would have to be cut to provide more parking. He thought it should be covered and said it will cost the City some money for operational costs, but he said it is not going to be a self- supporting facility, and he asked if they were prepared to pay more money per year to keep the pool running and if the citizens of Edmonds are prepared to pay more taxes to keep the pool open. He thought it would be interesting to go for the cheapest cover to see what the effect will be --to try it and see if it will be a good thing. He proposed covering the pool but said if it were to be done over again he would put it on north 76th where there is room for development. At Mountlake Terrace he had counted at least 200 parking spaces, and he asked if Edmonds was willing to provide that many. The hearing was closed. EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 5 - November 15, 1983 Councilmember Hall stated that if the school district owned it Edmonds would be hostage to their schedule and Edmonds' use of it would be limited. Mr. Simpson agreed but said he would try to get as much time as possible. Councilmember Hall thought that with some creativity they could get parking in there, and Mr. Simpson said nobody envisions clearcutting the park to provide parking. He did not believe many of the trees would have to go. Councilmember Hall said with regard to vandalism that she saw a large air bubble as a great target. She thought the cheapest cover may not necessarily end up being the cheapest. Mr. Simpson agreed that inflatable and fabric structures are an attractive target. He thought the opportunity for vandalism may be less for much of the park because it would be used more. Councilmember Gould asked if the Performing Arts Center is meant to include recreational facilities of a permanent nature, and Councilmember Hall responded that it is a possibility but she really could not conjecture on it. Councilmember Gould thought a complete facility that would sustain itself is needed, and to be self-sustaining there would have to be more than just swimming, but that may involve a $2,000,000 bond issue. He asked what size bond issue could be paid off with $10,000 per year. Finance Director Art Housler, after doing some calculating, said a 20-year bond issue at 8 112%, would have principle of $137,000 with a payment of $10,500. Councilmember Naughten said there would not have to be more parking if it were just covered, and he j did not think they should get into all the other things at that location. Councilmember i Gould's concern with a geodesic or inflatable cover was that it would create more maintenance. Councilmember Naughten thought the pool should be used the year around and that a study is needed regarding covering it in a first-class manner and then it MOTION: should be put to a vote of the public. COUNCILMEMBER NAUGHTEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GOULD, TO ASK THE STAFF TO PREPARE TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY, OR TELL WHAT IS NEEDED TO PREPARE A DESIGN FOR A PERMANENT STRUCTURE POOL COVER, INCLUDING 1d.L d,e REPAIR OF THE UPPER DECK AND REDESIGN OF THE ENTRY, AND TO GIVE SOME ESTIMATE OF THE l�L REVENUE, PLUS ANY OTHER AREAS FROM WHICH REVENUE COULD BE DERIVED SUCH AS THE SCHOOL 't- .DISTRICT, AND THAT THE FINANCE DIRECTOR INDICATE WHAT THE DEBT SERVICE WOULD BE, THE ` a-. 6� REPORT TO BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL ON JANUARY 10, 1984. Councilmember Gould also asked for a report on the state of the bonded indebtedness of the City. Mr. Housler I said he thought that to be approximately $7,000,000 on councilmanic bonds. THE MOTION: MOTION CARRIED. COUNCILMEMBER NAUGHTEN THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE EXPENDITURE OF UP TO $1,000 FOR A STUDY TO DETERMINE THE CONDITION OF THE POOL AND THE REPAIRS NEEDED ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, FUNDS TO COME FROM THE ENGINEERING AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FUND. MOTION CARRIED. REVIEW OF REQUEST BY YOUTH CLUB OF EDMONDS-LYNNWOOD FOR REDUCED RENT ON SPACE AT ANDERSON CENTER A request had been made for lease credit for the work that club members do to the City fields. Parks and Recreation Director Steve Simpson indicated in a memo to the Council that most groups that rent City athletic fields do some field maintenance to make the field suitable for their kind of play. Further, that fields are rented as is and the field use fees paid are for the reservation service, not for field main- tenance. He noted that service in lieu of payment requires accurate accounting of the hours spent in service, and a policy which grants credit to one group providing a service should apply equally to all groups providing or offering similar service. He said the Council has authorized, through the budget process, a level of maintenance for athletic fields, and a credit should presumably result in an equal offsetting of savings to the Public Works Department. Finally, he noted that the policy must be acceptable to the State auditor. Councilmember Naughten asked City Attorney Wayne Tanaka if defrayment of costs can be given if they provide in -kind service, and Mr. Tanaka said it can as long as the City gets equal value. The request was to reduce the rent from $4,800 to $2,400 in recognition for the service they provide, which includes dragging the fields, filling holes where they feel it is needed, and lining the fields. Councilmember Gould asked what would be necessary in the way of an auditing function so the State auditor would accept the action as there would have to be something to show in -kind service. Mr. Tanaka said it would be in the City's best interest to have some justification to show the auditor, should the question arise. Councilmember Nordquist suggested keeping $4,800 on the books but they would work off for credit $2,400 for service at an hourly rate. Mr. Simpson noted that the Boys' Club is the only other group given an opportunity to pay a debt by in -kind service, and that was for their utilities. He asked for direction as to whether this can be applied to other groups making a similar request..-Councilmember Hall observed that it could be applied even so far as to the revenue on the room in which the Council meets. Mr. Simpson stated that the Edmonds Softball Association does quite a bit of maintenance on their fields, and even hires someone to do it, so he expected he would get the same request from them. Councilmember Kasper asked about the responsibility to provide youth recreational programs, and Mr. Tanaka responded that if the City determined to set up a certain program and contracted to provide some of these programs instead of using City employees that is one thing, but just because an organization is beneficial to the community at large is not consideration for reduction in rent or, basically, spending of City monies. He said another•thing to be considered EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 6 - November 15, 1983 November 9, 1983 MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison Mayor FROM: Stephen 0. Simpson, Director Parks and Recreation Department SUBJECT: HEARING ON FEASIBILITY AND CONCEPT OF COVERING YOST POOL Council asked staff to report on various methods and costs of covering Yost Pool. Parks and Recreation staff has investigated a variety of approaches to covering the pool and will present slides and estimates at the November 15 Council Meeting. I attended a seminar on pool renovations at the Washington Recreation and Parks Conference in Pasco last week, where ideas for successful renovation and additions to pools were presented by Robert Bignold of O.R.B. Mr. Bignold agreed to make the same presentation to Council at a future work meeting. I believe you will find the information in his presentation valuable for an informed decision on renovation/covering the pool. I will schedule Mr. Bignold for a future meeting if you wish. Attached are reports on pools from the conference. SOS/mw Attachments SIGN FACTORS WHICH MAKE CCESSFUL SWIMMING POOLS PREPARED BY: ,. ROBERT W. BIGNOLD, PRESIDENT THE ORB ORGANIZATION 1rS ARCHITECTS -PLANNERS -ENGINEERS 5.10 EVERGREEN BUILDING RENTON, WASHINGTON 98055 II . A; �r r.� iS k+ 1 aGAiaWSr.,+'�� TELEPHONE: -(206) TOLL FREE:, (800) G 226-3522 562-0305 THE ORB ORGTrANIZAT=ON DESIGN FACTORS WHICH MAKE SUCCESSFUL INDOOR POOL-S- Traditionally, income from indoor swimming pools has amounted to only 30-60% of their operating cost, resulting in significant operating losses to most Park and Recreation Systems. In the recent past, losses of these magnitudes were subsidized by community taxes. Recent strains placed on city, county and park district budgets have made these large losses intolerable and, in many cases, community pools have been closed to balance the budget. These budget deficits can be reduced or eliminated by: Proper Location of Pool Low Operating Costs High Facility Income DESIGN FACTORS WHICH PROPERLY LOCATE POOLS FOR HIGH USE LOCATION OF A NEW POOL r: Location is perhaps the single most important factor to the financial success of a swimming pool. Traditionally, swimming pools have been located next to the community's high school or junior high school. Our experience has shown that such a location is a desirable objective only if other important locational criteria can be met. It should not, however, be the single deciding factor in the location of a community pool. A swimming pool is one of the few public facilities whose financial success r; depends upon its ability to attract its users. While many public services are a necessity required by health and safety considerations, recreation is not. Public pools derive their income from three general sources. Open recreational swims (leisure swimming) z' Public instruction programs through the park and recreation department r° School district programs Both open recreation swimming and public instructional swimming programs t; i require that the general public be constantly aware of the faci_i_ity, that they be able to easily find the facility, and that they find the facility and Its programs convenient and attractive. Good location is particularly important in large cities, although It is of lesser importance in small communities where everyone will be generally familiar with the location of the pool. F f (F 1 � r ; Y z ='Zo �'?�"''-- �`�'r THF. ORB ORGAN=ZAT=ON FACTORS TO CONSIDER As stated above, it can be beneficial to locate an outdoor pool adjacent to a school site. The main justification for such a location is Its easy access for students during the school instructional program. However, senior and junior high schools often have only one or two classes of intermediate or advanced swimming electives along with the possible mens' and womens' competitive swimming program. It has been ORB's experience that the backbone of most school districts' instructional programs is the elementary school students. Thus, the major use of the pool by the school district is for the instruction of elementary school children, all of whom will have to be bused to the pool site. If a pool is located at a site separate from a school in order to provide a'more convenient location for the general swimming public, there is little Inconvenience to the school district, as the major portion of their swim classes are bused to the pool in either case. It should also be pointed out that, in many communities, the school district Is not heavily involved in the use of the community swimming pool, thus it may be beneficial to locate a pool next to other recreational facilities such as a park, a playfield, tennis or racquetball facility, or a community center building. This allows the family to drop the younger children off at the pool while they enjoy other recreational facilities. A pool location near a shopping center allows Mom to drop off her children at the pool for several hours while she does the weekly shopping. ORB has developed the following location criteria to locate and evaluate the potential indoor swimming pool sites. This criteria is expressed below in primary and secondary factors. 0 �u7cTwT nN� *env,� J wpJ GL*1T /y/{ fAL14kT lG �Y %� PRI VARY FACTORS NEAR A MAJOR ARTERIAL Easy access by automobile from every location in the community. GOOD ACCESS TO PUBLIC Easy access from the surrounding residential areas by walking and bicycle. THE ORB ORGAN%T=ZAT =ON VISIBILITY OF FACILITY Good visibility to high numbers of residents provides self -advertisement for the facility. Such a location provides a constant reminder to use the pool. CENTRAL TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AREA A central location will provide equal travel distance to all areas of the community. Such a location will best serve future populations as the undeveloped areas of the community develop. CONSIDERS GROWTH POTENTIAL OF COMMUNITY A location which will serve the projected population increases over the next 10 to 20 years. ADEQUATE SITE SIZE Desirable Located on large park or school site Optimum 2.5 acres Miminum 1.5 acres Must accommodate: o Indoor/outdoor pool building o Related fitness activity areas o Off-street parking for a minimum of 40 cars r;r o Landscape and noise buffer ?i k: SECONDARY FACTORS EXISTING OR PLANNED RECREATION SITE A location on an existing or planned recreation site will allow Mom and Dad to drop off the children for swimming while they enjoy other park activities. The variety of recreational activities available tends to increase the use of a facility. Such a location also allows joint use of i parking and other support features. *+ SCHOOL SITE A pool at a school site allows the students at that school to utilize the pool without the expense of busing. It could also allow joint use of parking or other support features. ry F I AVA ILAB IL ITY OF UT IL IT IES The lack of sewer, water, and power at a site could cause additional development expense. DESIGN FACTORS -WHICH PRODUCE HIGH RESULTS CONVENTIONAL POOL SWIMMER MARKET Teenage Market Most all indoor swimming pools presently in use provide for competitive swimming, teenage instructional swimming, and teenage recreational swimming. We believe that with proper design, the swimmer market for an indoor pool in every community can be increased. DEVELOP ADULT MARKET BY INCLUDING: Good temperature and humidity control Pleasant and attractive facilities Interesting programming and convenient hours Amenities such as saunas, spas, exercise or weight rooms, racquetball courts, and separate public viewing room with comfortable lounging chairs. The above considerations will result in: Higher community support by adults Up to 50 - 70% adult use Sharply high revenues from higher paying adults r - T�I�3 ORS ORGANIZATION I DEVELOP PRE-SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL INSTRUCTIONAL MARKET BY INCLUDING: Shallow water training pool with four to five teaching stations Training pool water five to ten degrees warmer than main pool Overdcck radiant heat In training area Spas complement training program [mqther and child use after lesson) Separate public viewing room adjacent to training tank. The above considerations will result in: Children enjoying lessons Children learning to swim up to twice as fast � Doubling of the Instruction revenues DEVELOP SENIOR CITIZEN SWIMMING BY INCLUDING: ` , i Spas and hydro -therapy pools Warmer water training area Sun tan tables � Saunas � � Steps Into pool tank The above considerations will result in: Higher revenues '. High community support from an influential and respected group of people i� | ` \ � ' �r3E-3E3E3 4C3103EL3ER 4[:D3EC,4Gll-�4%^I%TX2CAqLWJVX41ZPz%T I DEVELOP SUMMER RECREATIONAL SWIMMING BY INCLUDING: Large windows and doors which offer easy access to outdoor decks. Decks located on the southern exposure for maximum sun. Shallow water outdoor pool located adjacent to indoor pool (optional). The above considerations will result in: Good indoor summer environment Ability to handle the larger summer recreational loads Places for people to sunbathe (increasing allowable attendance) Additional revenue from increased summer usage DEVELOP DUAL USE OF FACILITY FOR FITNESS AS WELL AS FOR SWIMMING: Weight or exercise room Racquetball courts Spa Saunas Sun tan tables The above considerations will result in: Considerably higher revenues Higher swimmer usage (in one existing facility, the addition of racquetball courts and spa resulted in 30 percent increase in swimming activity). Serial usage of facilities o Instruction - sauna or spa - shower o Adult - exercise room - sauna or spa - shower o Senior - spa - sauna - shower o Family - Father in spa or sauna -,.Pre-schooler in main training tank - Teenager in main pool - Mother in public viewing area 0 THE ORB ORGAN=ZAT=ON - DESIGN FACTORS WHICH PRODUCE LOW OPERATING COST The diagram below Identifies the general range of operating costs associated with most community pools. The diagram also notes that design of the pool can make no significant cost savings in the administrative cost of the pool, some savings in the personnel costs and maintenance costs, but major savings in the utility costs. Thus, it is in the reduction of energy costs where a designer can best increase the economic feasibility of a pool. 3- 4 % OF TOTAL C057 HO SIGNIFICAAIT SAVIN65) So-roo-1. or-lar4 C05T 50ME 9.LVING5 ) 1 r _ IC)- 2C)X OF 1DTAL CAST SOMe 51LING9 (PQ0PER 5ELECTION GP MOTFUTALS AND EQUIPMENT REDUCES casT) Major Operating Savings i]"i�`'I;.iTY 006T by Proper Design b1�J0i3 13i.VINGB� GOOD HUMIDITY CONTROL Increase pool usage, particularly by adult and senior citizens. •i F Reduce maintenance and repair necessitated by corrosion, oxidation and dry I rot i' WELL INSULATED WALLS i Lower energy cost (5-10%) Eliminate condensation on walls HEAT RECOVERY SYSTEM Save up to 60% of energy normally wasted Overall energy savings of 15% DEHUMIDIFICATION SYSTEM Recovers latent heat from humid exhaust air to heat pool water f' Overall energy savings of up to 25% i; PASSIVE SOLAR SYSTEM Utilizes winter sun to heat and light interior of pool structure Overall savings of 8% THE' ORB ORGANIZATION I INDOOR NORTHWEST SWIMMING POOLS WITH AND WITHOUT FITNESS FACILITIES �DATa IS vo2 198o-BI r-15cIw- Yge2 UNLESS NOTED OT4ERWISE) L�CENC]'. 5PQ oR. NYDRD TuE12AP\( PML - T= 514ALLOW 7utN 1 NC, PWL W -= WEI C T..=Rc om .._= r_•--------..12(4)= VACOUETBALL COURTS (No. of :5E4c0\1._I_N PARENT14r_sffs T�r1r-7 Y- 1r•v�% f c - ■i 1 1 --r 1 1 . f --f-. ,.--. .- Ilc (0i 9C ac 7C 6c 5C 1 c 3C zc 10 O OEM WA m mm-u�clmrj ml-.m.mmmmmmmi �9LmNE + k ====== m _ Emr mmmm_N- ., • r■ ® • -----mm- + - I M� ►d n L C tWT,& F- CF T� CD - --FOP-- POO L5 T FITNESS C I UTI r-5 100 I L� n i V (j !d7 f00 --qo- 8D a z v J� �¢ `� z z 9a _ O c WC N Z o I 30 % e =g F I l a f 40 nrz .•'....... .... ..... .... . ............ .............. _._._._._. �� ..... •.. . mmm -:��vxrwr,wKrrr mmmm Immm-mmm $• y ".*AM-- ■ ' i� - UA i �0 20{ 20: 20 19� I9 19E 185 ��VOL1L740 a�1�4�-' AFTER ADDITION OF FITNESS FACILITIES TOTAL SWIMMING UP 10% RECREATIONAL SWIMMING UP 29% MOUNTLAKE TERRACE RECREATION PAVILION. SWIMMING ATTENDANCE 1977-1982 0 COST RANGES OF DIFFERENT METHODS OF COVERING YOST POOL COST PER SQ. FT. COVER TYPE ADVANTAGES DISADVANTAGES $105 SUPER SWIM Unique design. $1,228,000 - $2,200,000 ARCHITECT CUSTOM DESIGNED Meets recreational interests of MULTI -PURPOSE FACILITY - all age groups with variety of Covered indoor/outdoor pool, activities. Gives ability to 1 weight room, racquetball crts., meet operating costs. spas, saunas, training pool, gym. $1,203,000 - $2,000,000 $50-$60 CRYSTAL OCTAGON* Attractive. Lets light in; can Not energy efficient. Possible $580,000 - $696,000 see outside. -~ r.� humidity problems. $35-$40 SOLAR STRUCTURE* Attractive. Very light inside. SUN/FUN Good humidity and temperature $406,000 - $464,000 control. Doesn't require major 80% of total contract. lighting. Moveable roof system of clear translucent fiberglass. Access to outdoor deck through many sliding doors. GEODESIC ALUMINUM DOME* Very quiet inside. Exterior Cost is for dome, support walls, $26-$32 $302,000 - $448,000 maintenance costs minimal. and insulation only. Air handl- ing equipment, lighting and other facilities extra. $15-$20 WEATHER PORT* f Inexpensive. Quick set-up time. Same as air -supported structure. Vinyl fabric stretched over j Designed to be a temporary tubular steel frame. I structure. $174,000 - $232,000 $10-$32 AIR SUPPORTED STRUCTURE* Least expensive way to cover Unattractive. Difficult to add Vinyl coated fabric with pool. Small amount of time to other facilities. Life span of polyester webbing; inflated ship and erect. 10 years. Very noisy inside. by electric blowers; revolving i Vandal -prone. door. $116,000 - $371,200 i $-00- EXISTING POOL Needs repair: Tank, leaks, upper deck, locker room. Inadequate stora e, office space, deck space. *None of these estimates include repair and redesign of entry and upper deck. October 6, 1983 MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison Mayor FROM: Stephen 0. Simpson, Director Parks and Recreation Department SUBJECT: REPORT ON FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS AND COVERING OF YOST POOL Attached is a report by city staff outlining the repairs and improve- ments needed at Yost Pool for the 1984 season. Also attached is the 1976 ORB Architects' report on various methods of enclosing Yost Park Pool. Included are current estimates for costs of construction and revenue from operation of the covered pool. Before the City commits itself to covering the pool and adding new facilities at Yost Park, I recommend the City do a marketing/economic analysis of the expanded facilities. This should tell us whether the 1976 proposed mix of facilities or another would work best to pay for the operation and improvements. The analysis could also suggest alter- native methods of financing such a facility. SOS/mw Attachments FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS FOR YOST POOL Swimming pools have a life expectancy of between twenty and fifty years. There is no reason Yost Pool could not serve the people of Edmonds for another thirty to forty years. Yost Pool is in sound mechanical condition, however, after its first decade of operation, it is ready for repairs and reconditioning. MINIMUM REPAIRS REQUIRED TO CONTINUE OPERATION Repair leak(s): Costs are still unknown since the leak has not yet been located. Repair estimates from: $ 1,000 to $20,000 Replastering or The existing plaster surface has deteri- fiberglassing the orated beyond the minor repair stage. pool tank: Ten years is typical life expectancy of a plaster surface pool wall. Estimate: $35,000 to $40,000 Replacing tile gutter Included in fiberglassing of the tank. and edging: Replacing 4,428 square feet of cracked deck around pool: $13,500 BADLY NEEDED IMPROVEMENT TO CONTINUE OPERATION AS AN OUTDOOR POOL Enclose upper deck and add pool office: $50,000 Expand deck and fenced area: $75,000 Other facilities (storage, spa, etc.): $25,000 SOS/mw 10/6/83 ESTIMATE OF REVENUE AND COSTS OF OPERATION OF YOST PARK POOL UNCOVERED POOL COVERED POOL AND RACQUETBALL NO IMPROVEMENTS COURTS AS PER ORB REPORT Expenses Expenses $ 20,000 salaries $ 95,000 salaries 5,000 25% Coord. time 24,000 full-time maint. person 8.000 utilities 100,000 maint. costs 14,000 maint./repair 2,000 supplies/equip. 800 chemicals $ 49,800 $219,000 Revenue Revenue $ 16,000 entrance fees $185,000 pool 1,000 locker (900) 40,000 racquetball courts 11,000 classes 5,000 concessions $ 28,000 $230,000 TOTAL EXPENDITURES $ 49,800 TOTAL EXPENDITURES $219,000 TOTAL REVENUE-28,000 TOTAL REVENUE 230,000 BOTTOM LINE -$ 21,800 BOTTOM LINE +$ 11,000 SOS/mw 10/6/83 for money to develop the jetty. The answer was that they are very excited by this and they have more money than good projects and they thought it would qualify if it were pursued. He asked if it had been pursued, and Mr. Simpson said they are making a slow but steady progress and should be able to report during the next work meeting. Councilmember Allen thought the way marine life is taken should be limited and that there should be an ordinance covering marine life and a license required to dig MOTION: clams. COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NAUGHTEN, TO INSTRUCT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE RESTRICTING THE COLLECTION OF MARINE LIFE ON THE CITY BEACHES, OTHER THAN BRACKETT'S LANDING, TO THAT WHICH IS ALLOWED BY PERMIT ONLY. MOTION CARRIED. Councilmember Allen also thought there should be a waterfront board established in the near future. As far as enforcement of the ordinance, she said that will be up to the administration at this point. She noted that there will have to be some training, some coordination with the Police, some structure, etc. Councilmember Gould commented that the ordinance to be drafted will allow the taking of clams by way of license, and maybe it would be simpler not to do that, but he had no way of knowing how much the people in the City want to do that, and it may be that there is no interest in that at all. This ordinance will be restrictive, but not so restrictive as the one governing Brackett's Landing, and Councilmember Allen commented that they have tried to keep Brackett's Landing unique and now they want to create something even more unique on the beaches. PRESENTATION FROM LYNNWOOD REGARDING THEIR FINAL COMPUTER SERVICE PROPOSAL Representatives present from the City of Lynnwood were M.A.A. Mike Caldwell, Finance Director Bob Noack, and Information Services Director Norm Nesting. Mr. Caldwell provided the Council with the written proposal and he reviewed it. He noted that the recommendation from the Edmonds staff had been negative in the previous meetings and that he would feel uncomfortable if the staff were not amenable to it. He referred to several statements in the report from the Edmonds staff which he said were untrue, and he discussed them. He went through the figures of the report and discussed the activity in both Phase I and Phase II of the service. He noted that the big bonus would be in shared technology and system development, and that they would like to have a Councilmember and a staff member on the steering committee. In response, Finance Director Art Housler commented that with the number of terminals indicated the response time would be slow, and that was a concern of his. Mr. Caldwell admitted that it would be slower than having an in-house system. Councilmember Gould observed that in order to have this kind of process work it would have to be accepted by the staff and the administration, and if it is mandated by the Council and not accepted by the staff and the administration, it would not work. He asked that the staff and administration analyze the report and tell the Council the advantages and disadvantages, including the capital costs, what it would do to manpower levels in the City, and what the cost benefit would be to do it. He said they should look at the past three years in this. It will be discussed at the next Finance Committee meeting. Mr. Housler commented that he thought Edmonds' staff to be very cooperative with Lynnwood and Mountlake Terrace, but in the previous report they had looked essentially at the costs, including ongoing costs, and it was a matter of fact that it would cost the City more to go with Lynnwood than to have its own system. He said he would be happy to work with them on this. City Engineer Jim Adams who recently bought a personal computer said it is amazing how much you need in programming once you get a computer, and the programs are very expensive. He thought if they could just share the programs there would be a savings in dollars. He suggested that if nothing else, the three cities should get the same type of equipment so the programs are compatible. A recess was announced. REPORT ON FEASIBILITY OF REPAIRS AND COVERING OF YOST POOL Council President Jaech stated at this time that it was suggested to her because of the late hour that this item be deferred to November 7, 1983, but she was advised by the Mayor that some people were present who wished to speak on it. She stated that if they were to speak it should be scheduled for an open meeting and announced as a public meeting. Another suggestion was to postpone the other items on this evening's MOTION: agenda to provide time for this discussion. COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED Failed BY COUNCILMEMBER NAUGHTEN, TO CONTINUE ITEMS 5, 6, 7 AND THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO OTHER DATES. Personnel Director Pat LeMay needed some input from the Council in Executive Session because of collective bargaining meetings he will have during the next week, so he preferred that the Executive Session not be cancelled. Council President Jaech had people call her but they did not come because this was not a posted hearing. Councilmember Allen suggested hearing the people present and not doing anything else on it, and that was agreeable. COUNCILMEMBER NAUGHTEN WITHDREW HIS SECOND TO THE MOTION, AND THE MOTION FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. Parks and Recreation Director Steve Simpson stated that most of the information in the 1976 report from ORB is current except for costs, and he had provided updated EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 2 - October 11, 1983 pages to replace those. He noted that since that report there are also new kinds of structures in addition to those shown. He stipulated that a cover must be attractive and he said the pool is sound and should give 20 - 50 more years of service. He noted that the kinds of repairs that were evident on the recent tour are not unusual for a pool of this age. Finance Director Art Housler added that in the 1984 budget there is $80,000 for Yost Pool improvements and maintenance but it also can be used for other purposes. It was noted that Dr. Reasby had suggested that the City and School District work on a way to cover the pool together. Shirley Murdock, 716 9th Ave. S., was invited by Mayor Harrison to speak. She said there are several in her group who swim everyday and they would do anything to help get the pool covered. She said it is a great facility for all ages, and she swims everyday with people of all ages. Another lady in her group, Charlotte Morehouse, 19020 88th W., said there is not much in Edmonds for the younger generation and that the pool is open only a few weeks of the year because it is not covered. COUNCILMEMBER MOTION: JAECH THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN, TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING e�,,,THE REPAIRS AND COVERING OF YOST POOL ON NOVEMBER 15, 1983. MOTION CARRIED. Council - member Gould asked for additional data, such as an update of the estimates of costs to do the job, including alternative types of covers (inflatable, solid structure, curtain, etc.). Mayor Harrison noted that it is difficult to get figures without a design, so he suggested just getting the figures for an inflatable cover and going from there. Councilmember Gould suggested that perhaps they could have a discussion of the concept rather than -dollars, having the people state what they would like to v, see, and use that concept to get the design, and then get the dollars. Mr. Simpson said ORB is willing to rework some of their report with new ideas that have developed. Councilmember Gould responded that at this point it is too early to get locked in with any supplier because there has to be a competitive bid. PERSONNEL COMMITTEE MEETING 1. Benefit Communications Program. Personnel Director Pat LeMay said the reason to develop this program is so employees realize the coverages they have. He provided a sample pamphlet put together with the assistance of Personnel Coordinator Georgia LaBelle which describes all employee benefit plans, and he asked for comments. Councilmember Gould thought the costs should be shown in the brochure as some of these things may be trade-offs in the bargaining units. Mr. LeMay noted that the costs and premiums change every year, but most of the Council agreed that they should be included. Mr. LeMay distributed samples from other cities of annual summaries of benefit costs which are shared with the employees at the end of the year. 2. Nonre resented Employees Wage and Salary Pro ram. Mr. LeMay had provided information about the program, noting that at the spring Council/Staff Retreat a priority was established to review the program and decide percent amounts to be budgeted toward the different elements of the program (across the board, pay progression, and merit). This information will be held for budget consideration. 3. Accident Statistics and Accident Prevention Program. Councilmember Gould noted from the information provided comparisons with other cities) that Edmonds' record is very poor in that the accident frequency rate is three times as high as that of industry and much higher than any of the other cities compared. Mr. LeMay noted that there has been a noticeable improvement in 1983. Most of the accidents are in the Public Works Department, followed by the Fire and Police Departments. Acting Public Works Superintendent Bobby Mills noted that in 1982 he had two people in Public Works who had several days off which increased the rates, and he had a number of people with minor accidents who had several days off at a time, including one who was on and off the job for six months after moving some furniture. Council - member Gould observed that the 1979 incident rate was only 5.6, and the City should be able to do that again. He suggested that the OSHA incident rate be broken down by department and each be evaluated by itself. Then the people there should be accountable for improving that. He also noted that new employees could be required to take a strength test to meet certain strength standards. Mr. LeMay noted that the City has a good training and education effort which is very important. He felt that making the supervisors more accountable would cause the employees, in turn, to be made more accountable. He stated it is an ongoing problem which will be addressed. MAYOR Mayor Harrison announced the names of people comprising the Civic Center Playfield Committee: Bruce Dees, Consultant; Don Stay, resident; Dave Earling, citizen at large; Tim Davis, softball league; John Wright, soccer league; Bill Tyler, Youth Club; Steve Simpson, City of Edmonds. Bruce Dees had recommended that he be the chairman, and the goals were outlined. The estimate of costs for the consultant is $4,340. Councilmember Hall stated that there is not one youth on the committee, and EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 3 - October 11, 1983 WE9 THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS9 REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITz COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. 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NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS �,r f- J • -71 &7W WEB THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENSIP REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS t (o J ,r j `? �� on (g6� �- WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS, REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS Ju w ? v,4'; �.• ti r J! 111 _ 1 1 ' 51 L! ' •� `� � 1. � ��� � 1I 1 � N ` /ff 7 z�to I!_ WEB THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS? REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. 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REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL, TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS 1` �2rT.S?.� file Lulor J. 1 1�pjr �i� � -- � J P� �•.. � t r�.., .41 ���•'r����T � �1 � �.�_ a J ;"� :'S it •' � �-�f - �•1 J ( i L ry WEB THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS, REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR-ARUUNU USE. NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS r orl -22C CUce_r t . F CL • - 7 ail�� r %�] } {``lam fS. 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NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS act 1\ C 0 �21 vX11 L "I . . .......... .. .... . ve 17 WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS, REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR —OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR—AROUNU U6t;._ NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS wo lA:'AJ 9 2, c!6 ll t(-' tl 3l ( f_. �t:e WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS, REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS u i _ ti WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS, REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS 6AA f f, r 'j 4 �r A& . SQL\ A , r � - ��i?y ±�� � L7+ . � 1 � !'+. � �. 1 • r �i .� f:: WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS, REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS to t ro ILI I r;"�; 17 r� 7? (­00. WEB THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS9 REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS 1 S 44 Ila � J `'r �' �. elt b i. , r, ,'` ' ' ��I 7 - i� .7r {.f . � rj♦• r'"-� f;.r •► � r�'1 r ��' l�.Jr~I] 1 WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CONCERNED CITIZENS, REQUEST THE EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE NECESSARY REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO YOST SWIMMING POOL AND TO ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO PROVIDE AN INDOOR -OUTDOOR COVER OVER THE POOL FOR YEAR -AROUND USE. NAME ADDRESS NAME ADDRESS "810 u- v oo Y� Jr:wELL very impressive to the students. She thought it would be beneficial to have some of them speak to the freshmen. That suggestion will be coordinated. Chief Foster had suggested that the quarterly reports be discontinued, but Councilmember Hall requested o eli..L that they still be provided, but on a semi-annual basis. REVISED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR ATHLETIC FIELD USE Information/Arts Coordinator Linda McCrystal, acting for the Parks and Recreation Director, provided the revised policies and procedures as requested by the City Council. The revisions included: Minimum of 25% use by adults; no scheduled play before 9:00 a.m, on any day; use of east softball field at Civic Center Playfield for scheduled time only; and increased fees for nonresident use. Ms. McCrystal said most of the use in the fall goes to youth soccer, and then adult soccer starts in February and the youth then are playing basketball and other indoor sports. In the spring there are youth and adult softball associations. So the use varies from season to season. Councilmember Jaech suggested moving the softball field to the west side to move the congestion and noise away from the residential area, but Ms. McCrystal said it was moved to the east side to avoid the hazard of the sun shining in the eyes of the players. Acting Public Works Superintendent Bobby Mills added that when it was located in the northwest corner the balls continually went into the soccer fields and also hit people on the track and it was dangerous for the people watching, whereas now most of the balls never enter the track area. The Council did not want to make any decision this evening, feeling there should be more audience input. THEREFORE, MOTION: COUNCILMEMBER NAUGHTEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH TO PLACE THIS ITEM ON r,r &„F, THE OCTOBER 4, 1983 AGENDA FOR HEARING. MOTION CARRIED. J Because the October 4, 1983 agenda appeared to be getting too full, COUNCILMEMBER MOTION: HALL MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TQ_MOVE T.0 .00IOSE�Ii_,.� 983.�WG_ITEMS,_ c..r� aL,4 . THE REPMT_0_H_LEA$.1.BTLLTY QLREPAIRS AND. -COVERING OF YOST POOL AND THE DISCUSSION AND DEC SIGNS REGARDING BRACKETT'S LANDING BEACH. MOTION CARRIED; Mayor Harrison added that some of the neighbors of the playfield would like the Council to consider lowering the lights and using less wattage, so he asked that they include that in their deliberations. Councilmember Jaech recalled that the Council had been advised by General Electric that the field lights could be increased two times and she wanted to know if that information is correct and also if there would be a safety problem. There was a question again as to whether this would be an administrative decision or a Council decision. City Attorney Wayne Tanaka said if there is an expenditure of funds Council approval would be necessary. A recess was announced. DISCUSSION OF SURPLUS MEADOWDALE PROPERTIES Property,Manager Jim Jessel explained that Ralph Kefgens, 16205 North Meadowdale Rd., had requested information regarding the Meadowdale Rd. property adjacent to his property which is approximately 18,000 sq. ft. and does not have adequate depth to become a buildable lot by itself. There are other strips of City property off the right-of-way in the Meadowdale area, but this is the only one which has adequate value to warrant an investigation. Mr. Jessel said the others can be dealt with over the years as the adjacent properties are developed. He said assessed property values in the immediate area of this specific property range from $.50 per sq. ft. for undeveloped property to $1.34 per sq. ft. for developed property. He felt the unbuildable nature of the property suggests a value of approximately $.50 per sq. ft., so he recommended that the property be declared surplus and that authorization be granted for a negotiated sale at a minimum of $.50 per sq. ft. City Attorney Wayne Tanaka noted that this is a street property received by dedication and it would have to go through the street vacation process. Mr. Jessel added that he thought the City had maintained its open space goals in that area and this property is not needed for a future street and it could be a liability if somebody were injured on it. He thought it to be in the best interests of the City to dispose of such properties. Councilmember Jaech asked if a situation would occur that would create value, by Mr. Kefgens adding this to his existing property. Mr. Tanaka stated that Mr. Kefgens could build now, but with this additional property he could increase the number of lots in his acreage. Councilmember Kasper did not think any surplus property in that area should be disposed of until the sewer project is completed and the area is surveyed. Because there are survey problems in that area now, and many errors in the legal descriptions, he felt the City should eventually survey the entire area. Councilmember Allen thought they should at least wait until the vacation process is MOTION: accomplished. COUNCILMEMBER HALL MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NAUGHTEN, TO START Failed THE VACATION PROCESS ON NORTH MEADOWDALE RD. IN VIEW OF THE RALPH KEFGENS REQUEST. Councilmember Kasper reiterated what he had said and added that a vacation process EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 4 - September 13, 1983 CONSENT AGENDA MOTION: Item (E) was removed from the Consent Agenda. COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The approved items on the Consent Agenda included the following: (A) Roll call. (B) Approval of Minutes of August 23, 1983. (C) Acknowledgment of receipt of Claim for Damages from Mrs. Ronald E. Larsen in the amount of $56.39. (D) Authorization for Mayor to sign hold harmless agreements with King County Police. (F) Authorization for Mayor and Council President to sign letter of support for Washington State Downtown Association Development Assistance Team application. (G) Acceptance of Quit Claim Deed for right-of-way from Michael and Joan Mastro. (H) Ap2roval to close Yost Park Pool followin Labor Day, APPROVAL OF TOW TRUCK OPERATOR'S LICENSE - INTER -COUNTY TOWING ji•tem _(E) on Consent A enda Councilmember Hall removed this item from the Consent Agenda at the request of the Police Chief because he had heard from this company's insurance carrier that the insurance was cancelled because the fees were not paid. Police Chief Marlo Foster asked that if it were approved the approval be contingent upon the insurance being in force. He said it is common that he gets cancellation notices immediately followed MOTION: by renewal notices, and he did not anticipate a problem. COUNCILMEMBER HALL MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN, TO APPROVE THE TOW TRUCK OPERATOR'S LICENCE FOR INTER -COUNTY TOWING, CONTINGENT UPON RECEIPT OF PROOF OF APPROPRIATE INSURANCE COVERAGE WITHIN TEN DAYS. MOTION CARRIED. RECOGNITION OF 25 YEARS' SERVICE AS VOLUNTEER FIREMEN: CLINT GREY AND DICK SLYE Fire Chief Jack Weinz stated that these men have given much of their time in service to the citizens of Edmonds as volunteer firefighters, and Dick Slye also had served as a City Councilman. Chief Weinz related a little of the backgrounds of both men and personally thanked them for their time in the volunteer ranks, following which Mayor Harrison presented them plaques in recognition of their service. HEARING ON STRIPING OF 7TH AVE. City Engineer Jim Adams stated that he had received citizen complaints because of the traffic hazard on 7th Ave., from Walnut to Pine, due to limited sight distance, and also that vehicles have difficulty passing when cars are parked on both sides of 7th Ave. at that location. In response to this, Ordinance 2369 was passed on May 31, 1983, restricting parking on the west side of 7th Ave. and a plan was proposed for a painted centerline. Due to a misunderstanding, the centerline was improperly painted, following which a group of the residents met with Acting Public Works Superintendent Bobby Mills and some of them indicated they preferred having the parking restriction on the east side. One citizen asked for a public hearing before repainting the striping. The Engineering Department re-evaluated the original recommendation and still believed that there should be no parking on the west side as that would allow for more parking spaces than if the no parking were on the east side. Also, parking only on the west side would create either an offset centerline or a reduction in the lane width going up -hill, south from Walnut St., and this is the point of major hazard. Mr. Adams said there is room for one parking lane and two travel lanes. The hearing was opened. Anna Marie Berger, 612 7th Ave. S., said she lives at the apex of the hill. She said her neighbor to the south does not approve of the east side parking, having a family of boys with cars. Ms. Berger, herself, was not personally affected. Winifred McEnroe, 806 7th Ave. S., favored the proposal. Sondra Percy, 622 7th Ave. S., preferred the parking on the opposite side. Jerry Percy, same address, agreed that there is a problem. He lives at the top of the hill and said he is part of the problem because he has boys and several vehicles. He said one of the problems with parking on the east side only is that on the west EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 2 - August 30, 1983 August 26, 1983 MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison Mayor FROM: Stephen 0. Simpson, Director Parks and Recreation Department SUBJECT: 1983 POOL CLOSURE We plan on operating Yost Pool through September 5 this year. The closing date, September 6, is earlier by a week than in the past for the following reasons: I. The Parks and Recreation Department budget is extremely tight this year. Closing early will save $175.00 per day in salaries alone. 2. Pool use drops off dramatically after Labor Day. During an average year the pool only earns $150 to $300 in revenue for all of September. 3. Buildings and Grounds Division plans on draining the pool to investigate the leak. Early closure will allow crews extra time to investigate and make repairs. I request concurrence for this decision. SOS/mw rl cre �y7j �M 6 7, &� '7 FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING (A) DISCUSSION OF FUNDING MEADOWDALE SEWER PROJECT IN LIEU OF HUD GRANT City Engineer Jim Adams distributed the most current best cost estimate schedule for the project. The best estimate is that the total project will be approximately $3,000,000. Of that, $200,000 already has been spent and $2,778,000 additional is needed. Three alternatives were submitted for that funding. Alternative 1 was that the LID pay 50% of the sanitary sewers, 100% of the interceptor, and nothing of the storm sewers, which would result in the Water/Sewer Fund having to pay $768,462. Alternative 2 was that the LID pay 50% of the sanitary sewers, 100% of the interceptor, and everything above $255,000 of the storm sewers, resulting in the Water/Sewer Fund having to pay $521,433. Alternative 3 was that the Water/Sewer Fund pay everything above the preliminary LID assessment, which would be $890,935. Available Water/Sewer funds for the Meadowdale project are $928,501. Mr. Adams said that under Alternative 1 the people would pay 9% more than the preliminary assessment, and under Alternative 2 they would pay 29% more. Under Alternative 3 the City would pay everything above the preliminary LID assessment. Finance Director Art Housler stated that in the project schedule for the next two years $288,000 will be transferred from the unanticipated sales tax revenues, and a reduction in that transfer could be made, reducing the funds for some "wish list" items. Based on the information now available, Council - member Naughten preferred Alternative 3, and he said if the project ran higher they would have to go back and put additional assessments on the people. Mr. Adams said that when the bids are opened there will be a unit price bid, not a fixed price, and that could vary as much as 5%. He thought they could go to bid in three weeks and open bids three weeks after that. They anticipated that those bids will be $2,800,000, and he said to the best of their knowledge at this time there is enough money to go ahead, but one cannot really make the decision until the bids are obtained. He said there is sufficient money for the other projects which were authorized, but they have a lot of other projects that have been listed since 1978 which they have not yet done. Councilmember Allen noted that they did not want to lose sight of the other projects which also are very important. Councilmember Gould also supported Alternative 3, holding the costs so the pre -LID estimate for the people would remain constant. MOTION: He said they had a lot of options for doing that. COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO DISCUSS THIS AGAIN AT THE SEPTEMBER 27, 1983 FINANCE COM- MITTEE MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. (B) DISCUSSION REGARDING 1984 COUNCIL BUDGET A print-out of projected 1984 costs had been provided by the Finance Director, as developed by him and Council President Jaech. It appeared to be a hold -the -line budget with the addition of the Council Resource Person. Since it appeared to be MOTION: satisfactory to the Council, COUNCIL PRESIDENT JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED 1984 COUNCIL BUDGET. MOTION CARRIED. COUNCIL Councilmember Hall reported that she had attended the American Legion Convention this date and Dr. Harry Kretzler's name was mentioned in one of the ceremonies. Councilmember Hall had toured the Yo�t_Park sing aopl and said it is in sad need of repair, and she suggested all of the Council should see it. She noted also that a log cabin has been offered to be moved to the park which might make a good caretaker's residence. Regarding the swimming pool, Mayor Harrison said he thought only the building with the locker room was designed to be covered and he did not think the pool itself was designed for a cover. He thought they should try to determine what actually had transpired. Councilmember Nordquist said it was if the Council bought the pool the citizens would buy the cover, which they never did. COUNCILMEMBER HALL MOTION: MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEET AT THE SWIMMING Oo,ck,d Rw POOL TO EXAMINE IT ON SEPTEMBER 6, 1983 AT 6:30 P.M. MOTION CARRIED. Alew . Councilmember uncilmember Hall reported that the City employees' picnic had been a great success and she appreciated having been invited. Councilmember Hall compared the Edmonds City Council work meeting agenda published in the Herald with that of the Everett City Council, and she said she resented the statement on the Edmonds' agenda of "NO AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION," as compared to the Everett agenda which invited the public. She also did not like the statement at the bottom of the agenda that questions on the Consent Agenda items should be referred to the department heads. She felt it would suffice for the Mayor to announce at the beginning of a work meeting that it was a work meeting without audience participation. Others disagreed, saying the citizens should know ahead of time that if they were EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 3 - August 23, 1983 Glenna Record, 17425 69th P1. W., agreed with Mrs. Tacher's remarks. Jerry Skipton, 17506 69th Pl. W., Lot 1 of the plat, said he has had gas caps taken from his car but he has been unable to catch the vandals and the police cannot catch them as they cannot follow them on the path with their cars and cannot run as fast as the young people. He recommended blocking the walkway off for two years and then considering reopening it. He said it has been a benefit to them but he thought it should be closed because of the problems. Scott Klaloch, Lot 6, said he has three children and the vandals had gone so far as to take his four -year -old on a ride on one of their motorbikes. His oldest daughter who is a young teenager knows some of these youngsters and says they look on the whole thing as being an escape route. Although the walkway is used by the neighborhood, he said the minor inconvenience of walking the extra blocks would be worth it to be rid of these problems. He said those young people come from a long distance to use this area. No one else wished to speak, and the hearing was closed. Mayor Harrison thought the walkway should be closed for about five years to give this bunch of youngsters a chance to grow up, and he thought the wood fence on the Robinson property would be the logical one to remove, leaving a chain link fence btween the two properties. Councilmember Naughten agreed that it should be closed, and he noted that the abuse is similar to what has occurred on Sunset. He thought it should be closed for one year and then be reviewed for consideration of extending the closure. Councilmember Kasper asked to hear from the Police Chief. Chief Marlo Foster said vandalism is about as frustrating a job as there is, as there usually are not eyewitnesses and the officers do not have the time to wait. He thought they should take a good look at 176th, as the hill is very steep and there should be an adequate walkway. He thought it was a shame to close the walkway but said policing it is time consuming and he does not have the police officers to be there. He recommended that it be closed temporarily, and he said his people will try to work with the neighborhood MOTION: regardless of the decision. COUNCILMEMBER GOULD MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO CLOSE THE WALKWAY AT CITY EXPENSE FOR ONE YEAR, AND TO REVIEW THIS ACTION c: 5 &I" AT THE FIRST MEETING OF SEPTEMBER, 1984. Councilmember Jaech was reminded by these incidents of a TV program several years ago that depicted an area of citizens who were continually harrassed by teenagers who could not be caught in the act. It was a true story, and it caused her to be concerned that the increased harrassment in this situation could result in grave injury, and as happened in the story, the citizens may end up taking action. She knew no one wanted that to happen, and she said she would vote in favor of closing the walkway and possibly some progress can be made. Councilmember Gould observed that the original purpose of the walkway was really subordinate to the things the citizens had reported, and he said these were responsive citizens and they had been very tolerant, so the least the Council could do was to close the walkway and re-examine the situation in one year. Councilmember Hall thought this was proof that the citizens need more protection and that the City is lacking in police in that area. She observed that the City is still short five police officers and she thought this should be kept in mind at budget time. Councilmember Gould thought there probably would be some reaction to these citizens' actions, so he asked the Police Department to be especially helpful to that neighbor- hood to see that things go smoothly there. He thought there may be repercussions from the problem element. Mr. Robinson was very willing to take his fence down, and Mr. McLaughlin had no objection to using the chain link fence as the barrier. Councilmember Allen did not think they should wait a year for a status report, and she suggested that a report be made at the first of December, and then the matter could be reviewed next September. Also, she said 176th must be looked at for con- struction of a walkway as it is very narrow and very steep. THE MOTION CARRIED. MOTION: COUNCILMEMBER ALLEN THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER GOULD, THAT THE STAFF Q;gFt&�_f PROVIDE A REPORT ON THE EFFECT OF THIS ACTION AT THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER, AND -,,ALSO THAT THE STAFF PROVIDE AN IMMEDIATE REPORT REGARDING A WALKWAY ON 176TH. MOTION a� CARRIED. DISCUSSION REGARDING CITY -OWNED PROPERTY ADJACENT_ TQ-10 §_PARK Parks and Recreation Director Steve Simpson reviewed the recent discussions regarding the subject properties. The discussions had been precipitated by a complaint from Will Smith, a neighbor of the park, when the City sold a lot by the park to another EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 3 - August 16, 1983 neighbor to help him with a problem on his property. The Council was shown an inventory and map of City -owned land adjacent to the park on February 6, 1983, and the Council then referred the matter to the Planning Board and it was considered at the March 9, 1983 Planning Board meeting, and the Planning Board recommended that all of those City -owned properties adjacent to Yost Park be designated park land and be included in Yost Park. That recommendation had been presented to the Council but it was tabled for future consideration. The Parks and Recreation staff had not thought Lots 1 and 2 were strongly related to the park, but the Planning Board thought differently, believing they would be good buffer and transition areas. Councilmember Kasper questioned whether part of this property could be owned by the Water/Sewer Fund as it is former watershed. Councilmember Jaech said she had put this on the agenda because it was in limbo and Will Smith had asked her about it. He was invited to speak. Will Smith, 1053 Alder, said he had let it drop because he will be moving from the neighborhood, but he provided a copy of a petition he originally circulated which asked that Parcels 1 and 2 be included with Parcels 3, 4, and 6 recommended for incorporation into the park. He has lived in that neighborhood all his life and said it is a natural area and Edmonds does not have many areas like that now. He thought the properties should be held, rather than sold for private development. Mayor Harrison thought they should incorporate all of the parcels into the park system, but Councilmember Jaech thought they should determine whether any of this property is a part of the Water/Sewer Fund before anything is done. City Attorney Wayne Tanaka noted that there is no park zone in the City, so the designation as park MOTION: property has nothing to do with zoning. COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TIiAT-UNT-IL THE—ORCGIN9LACQU1SIT1ON_OF THE__P.ROP_EgTY IS aET_E.RMINED IT BE RED YED_F-RONLTHE-ROMRTY-1-ULAKOIOT BE 50LD. Councilmember Kasper said this was a statement that there is no justification to sell it at this time, and he thought they should say they do not think it should be sold at this time, even a piece of it, and that it should be left as the "not for sale" area. THE MOTION CARRIED. A recess was announced. RECONSIDERATION OF RECLASSIFICATION OF EXECUTIVE SECRETARY POSITION Personnel Director Pat LeMay reviewed the information previously provided regarding this proposal. He was asked by Councilmember Nordquist for external data to justify the proposal, and he said he did obtain external data but it was hard to match this position with others in comparable jurisdictions as this one goes beyond the dimensions of Executive Secretary. Mayor Harrison said this was particularly so in meeting the public. Councilmember Nordquist said he had found that in Lynnwood the same position is held by a person who works for a full-time Mayor and also the Mayor's Assistant, and she earns a salary of $22,006 per year which is comparable to what this person earns, and she has ten years' experience. He added that Mountlake Terrace has no secretary for the City Administrator or the Mayor, the secretarial pool being utilized for them. When he equated those two job functions with that of this one, he was prompted to ask Mr. LeMay about external data. Mayor Harrison said there was a lot of administrative work on the Rosalyn Sumners project and also on the Taste of Edmonds, and it takes a certain demeanor and knowledge for such things and the dictation aspect of the job is quite incidental. Councilmember Nordquist asked if there would be a request for another increase in January, or would what is done now be satisfactory -- and he suggested that possibly this should be a budget item for September. Councilmember Kasper stated that the Council is in the process of establishing the Council Resourse Person position, there soon will be a full-time Mayor, and the move is being made toward word processing, so he still thought this was not the time to be increasing classifications of jobs and it should not be done until it is seen what the alignment will be. He said the Rosalyn Sumners project was done by the Mayor's Office, but it could be done by someone else and it was a one-time activity, and the Resource Person will be involved with the retreat, relieving the Executive Secretary from some of that involvement. He did not think the Council Resource Person should be doing the work this secretary has done for the Council, but he said it appeared that is what the Council is hiring, so this job should not be reclassified until it is determined what it will include. Councilmember Allen suggested that the salary of this person be increased, rather than change the classification of the position, as there appeared to be a certain reluctance to consider it outside of the budgetary considerations. She said the Mayor can do what he is authorized to do as Mayor as far as increasing the salary for increased workload. Councilmember Nordquist thought the action should be considered at budget time, and he noted that the incumbent's evaluation is due September 1, so that would provide the opportunity for salary increase. EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 4 - August 16, 1983 August 11, 1983 MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison Mayor FROM: Stephen 0. Simpson, Director Parks and Recreation Department SUBJECT: DISCUSSION REGARDING CITY -OWNED PROPERTY ADJACENT TO YOST PARK At your July 12 meeting, you requested copies of reports pertaining to city -owned properties adjacent to Yost Park. The following memos and attachments will bring you up to date on the subject. A February 3, 1983 Parks Department Staff inventory and map of city -owned land adjacent to the park. The inventory and slides were presented to the Council on February 8. The Council referred the matter to the Planning Board, which considered it at its March 9 meeting. o An April 8 memo to the City Council from Bob Boye, listing the Planning Board's recommendation regarding the properties. The subject of land adjacent to Yost Park first came up at the January 18, 1983 Council Meeting, when a citizen complained about the sale of a city lot to another neighbor. LJS/mw Attachments or A -A ;7W� W N't 9NE April 8, 1983 MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison Mayor FROM: Stephen 0. Simpson, Director Parks and Recreation Department SUBJECT: PLANNING BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION REGARDING CITY -OWNED PROPERTIES ADJACENT YOST PARK Council requested the Planning Board's review of the Parks and Recreation Staff's recommendations regarding city properties adjacent to Yost Park. Attached is the Planning Board's recommendations and report. The Planning Board recommended that all city properties adja- cent Yost Park be designated park land and included in Yost Park. SOS/nnq Attachments March 21, 1983 MEMO TO: The Edmonds City Council FROM: Bob Boye, Sequestered Report Writer from The Edmonds Planning/Park Board SUBJECT: RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING CITY -OWNED PROPERTIES ADJACENT YOST PARK It is the recommendation of the Edmonds Planning/Park Board that: Lots 17-20, Block 37 (item 1) Lots 24-29, Block 38 (item 2) Lots 12-14, Block 38 (item 3) of the enclosed map Lots 5-20, Block 39 (item 4) Lots 6-20, Block 68 (item 5) Lots 21-34, Block 68 (item 6) be transferred to the jurisdiction of the Edmonds Parks and Recreation Department, and that those city streets that are shown on the city street map that adjoin these parcels of land and Yost Park (an accurate map and land description is being pre- pared by the Edmonds Park Department), be placed under the jurisdiction of the Edmonds Parks and Recreation Department in a manner whereby the usage of those street -shown properties become part of the Yost Park complex. It was the opinion of the Planning/Park Board that the above listed properties owned by the City of Edmonds represent a benefit to the citizens of Edmonds best served by placing them under the jurisdiction of the Parks and Recreation Department to be used as park land. The Board gave these reasons for its decision: I.- The rather limited monetary gain that could be immediately realized by the City of Edmonds through the sale of any of the above listed properties would be very insignificant compared to the opportunity of adding natural park land with its accompanying environmontal amenities for the enjoyment of generations of citizens to come. 2. The steep terrain of the properties in review are such as to make any building questionable and potentially susceptible to harmful erosion caused by increased weight on the slopes and water run-off saturation of soils. 3. Increased noise pollution into the natural lands of the park would take place with additional building. 4. There would be an element of adverse visual impact from additonal build- ings to those enjoying the naturalness of the park. RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING CITY -OWNED PROPERTIES ADJACENT YOST PARK March 15, 1983 - Page 2 The Board recommends that the City Council agree to all the above listed properties being transferred to the Parks and Recreation Department, but if there is to be an exception that it be the west sixty feet of the property identifed as Item 2 on the map. The purposes of the Board requesting transfer, in some manner, of the street land described above is to make sure that future vehicular traffic within Yost Park be under the control of the Parks and Recreation Department so that any conflict of inter -departmental usage of park land be settled in favor of the overall objectives of the Parks and Recreation Department. Other feelings expressed and generally agreed to by members of the Board regarding the future of these additions to Yost Park and Yost Park in general were: 1. Future development of Yost Park be secondary to the basic "leave it natural" concept. 2. Development of pedestrian trails to and from Yost Park be encouraged. 3. Consideration be given to looking into the possibility of establishing a salmon enhancement program (perhaps in conjunction with the Edmonds School District) in a way that would not detract from the "leave it natural" con- cept of the park. BB/mw February 3, 1983 MEMO TO: Flarve H. Harrison Mayor VIA: Stephen 0. Simpson, Director �\ Parks and Recreation Department FROM: Linda J. Sullivan, Landscape Designer Parks and Recreation Department SUBJECT: REPORT ON CITY PROPERTIES ADJACENT YOST PARK As requested by the City Council, the Parks and Recreation Department has inventoried those parcels of land adjacent Yost Park which are under city ownership. The following is a description of those parcels, their current use, and the potential impact of their sale. All of the parcels are wooded, with vegetation typical of Puget Sound lowland forest (cedar, hemlock, Douglas -fir, maple and alder trees, with Oregon grape, salal, ferns, and blueberries as the shrub -layer vegetation). MAP KEY 1 Lots 17-20, Block 37. This relatively flat piece of land acts as a buffer between Yost Par; and Maple Street residences. Sale of the property would not have a serious impact on Yost Park, though it might be viewed negatively by Maple Street residents. 2 Lots 24-29, Block 38. This parcel consists of a flat area above an adja- cent steep slope. The flat area, which has been cleared of trees and is used as a car turn -around by Maple Street residents, could be declared surplus and sold without adverse impact to Yost Park. 3 Lots 12-14, Block 38. This parcel consists of a steep slope which is a small part of the southern wall of the Shell Creek ravine. The topography of the site would make it extremely difficult to build upon, and any con- struction would be highly likely to have an adverse impact on Yost Park and on Shell Creek. 4 Lots 5-20 Block 39. Part of this parcel is the planned site of a hold- ing pond which would be built as part of the Shell Creek Drainage Basin Storm Water Management Program. Two types of pond are under consideration: One which would conform to the existing topography and which would hold 1.15 acre feet of water (50,000 cf); and another which would be an excavated, more geometric pond with a capacity of 21Z times greater than the first alternative. Construction of the pond is now in the "talking stage" for 1985. In addition to the important role it is likely to play in the city's over- all drainage program, the parcel acts as a greenbelt and a visual corridor pleasing to both the pedestrians who use the many foot trails in the area, and motorists driving along Main Street. REPORT ON CITY PROPERTIES ADJACENT YOST PARK February 3, 1983 - Page 2 Because of the parcel's hydrological, aesthetic, and recreational importance, sale should not be considered. 5 Lots 6-20, Flock 68. This parcel is a continuation of the greenbelt area which borders Main Street and is the site of the Wade James Theatre (formerly the Driftwood Theater). Because of the visual appeal it gives to Main Street, and the likelihood that the area will one day be needed for expansion of the theater's parking and rehearsal facilities, sale of the parcel is not recommended. 6 Lots 21-34, Block 68. This parcel is part of the Main Street visual corridor as are Parcels 4 and 5, and provides a buffer between the Wade James Theatre and uphill neighborhoods. The site is very steep and would be difficult to build upon. Sale of the property is not recommended. Recoiaiiendati ons Aside from their visual importance as a Main Street greenbelt, Parcels, 3, 4, and 6 increase Yost Park's value as a place near the heart of the town where people can walk in a peaceful area and enjoy nature's assets. All three parcels have topography which would impose severe constraints on development. For these reasons, we recommend that Parcels 3, 4, and 6 be incorporated into Yost Park, to be managed as a greenbelt area which is part of the park system. We further recommend that Parcel 4's high recreational and aesthetic value be included as a vital consideration in the planning and implementation of the Shell Creek Basin Storm Water Management Program. LJS/mw Attachments scheduling which were about the same as what now exists. Councilmember Allen noted that there also were letters from some of the people who like the lights, so not everyone dislikes them. She also was concerned that Edmonds is rapidly turning away the youth of the area, having done very little in the last few years to encourage young people. Councilmember Naughten said there has never been a lighted baseball field in Edmonds and he thought that should be pursued at the Woodway site. Student Representative Tony Foss said that is probably one of the worst fields in the area. MOTION: COUNCILMEMBER NAUGHTEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO HAVE A REPORT ON THE JOINT USE OF MEADOWDALE PLAYFIELD ON AUGUST 23, 1983. MOTION CARRIED. Councilmember P_,'ct"4-e-Kasper felt that if the lights are to be removed from the Civic Center playfield that enough should remain to be adequate for at least limited sports such as jogging. He E4�4atsaid this is a major asset to the whole bowl of Edmonds and it should be used, and he also thought there should be at least one hearing when it comes to making the decision of what they will do. Councilmember Gould thought that if it should be decided to develop the Meadowdale playfield that Edmonds will have a large financial commitment to make in addition to the lights. A recess was announced, during which Councilmember Jaech left. DISCUSSION ON YOST PARK POOL RENOVATIONS AND POOL COVER Parks and Recreation Director Steve Simpson had provided a report regarding the necessary renovations as well as a discussion regarding the possibility of covering the pool. He said the City is faced with a fairly substantial maintenance problem regarding the pool for next year and the decision cannot be delayed much longer as to whether to cover it or not, and if it is decided not to do so then the repairs will be made in such a way that it will make a good outdoor pool. He said he gets more requests to cover the pool than any other thing and he hears very little against covering it, and it does not make sense to build a large facility without making it pay for itself. He was not sure if it was possible on that site to make it pay for operating costs and debt service. He said discussions regarding covering it have always been about a cover that would open up to take advantage of the unique site, and now there are new ideas for ways to do that. He said a pool by itself probably would not break even, and it would need associated activities. He noted that Mountlake Terrace has a very well run pool but they have more than one activity at that facility and any pool has to have other attractions to make it pay. He noted that the pool is in a residential area and he did not know if they could get enough people in and out to make it pay. Councilmember Naughten read aloud a letter from Dave Larson, a member of the Planning Board, and a person who has always taken an active part in discussions regarding the pool. His letter discussed reasons for not covering the pool, and he recommended that any consideration of a covered pool be studied on its merits as a separate question. Councilmember Kasper felt a lot of money would have to be spent on it and he noted that it is 15 years old and a lot of work has to be done. He said they will either have to cover it or forget it as they do not have any budgets for heavy maintentance on it and it will be expensive. Mr. Simpson displayed a series of artist's conceptions of pool covers which had been done when this was discussed before, and he also circulated some pamphlets on pool covers. He said covering the pool could cost from $100,000 to $1,000,000, repairs will cost from $50,000 to $120,000, and improvements will range from $50,000 to $600,000, depending upon the type and amount of space needed for them. This would require borrowing money, and of the options available he recommended revenue bonds. He said with this approach as much of the cost of the project as is possible can be passed on to the users of the facility. He will obtain cost figures for inflatable and retractable covers. Councilmemer Allen discussed the possibility of a covered pool at another site, saying it should be near a high school and Woodway is difficult to get to and there is another pool near Edmonds High. She thought Meadowdale would love to have it. Mr. Simpson said it would have to be a multi -level recreational facility and would be aimed at athletics as opposed to what is at the Anderson Center. Council - member Naughten said he would be more in favor of General Obligation bonds as anything of that magnitude in cost should go to a vote of the people. He asked for a report of the best estimate of the total cost of a permanent cover, a balloon cover, and a retractable cover, and Councilmember Allen also suggested figures for a pool cover with additional operations. The administration will pursue the issue. DISCUSSION ON SOUTH SNOHOMISH COUNTY CHAMBER LETTER REGARDING RESCUE BOAT The Chamber had written a letter urging the Edmonds City Council to submit the search and rescue boat proposal to a vote of the citizens. Parks and Recreation Director Steve Simpson had prepared a suggested response to their position. He stated that the fire/rescue boat is a piece of equipment like the Medic 7 van and other emergency vehicles, and equipment purchases and expanded emergency services are not taken to a vote of the people. Further, citizen safety is an assumed responsibility of the municipality. He said the police and fire personnel need a boat since they are dispatched to help off -shore emergencies. He noted that the Chamber suggested that user fees be charged for use of this service, and he suggested that where EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES Page 4 - July 26, 1983 July 21, 1983 MEMO TO: Harve H. Harrison Mayor FROM: Stephen 0. Simpson, Director Parks and Recreation Department SUBJECT: DISCUSSION ON YOST PARK POOL RENOVATIONS AND POOL COVER The question of whether to cover Yost Park Pool has been discussed for ten years. Until recently, there appeared to be no pressure to make the decision. Reports from Public Works' Buildings and Grounds Division indicate the pool needs substantial repair. Though it is mechanically sound, due to a good preventive maintenance program, the exposed components have deteriorated and need attention. The manner of repair depends upon whether Yost Pool is to be an indoor or an outdoor pool. The benefits of a covered pool are underscored by our cool 1983 summer. Lynnwood Parks officials say they regret removing their canvas pool cover this year. Here in Edmonds, people have withdrawn from swim classes because of cool temperatures. Many older people cannot or do not swim in Edmonds' pool because of the chilly air. Yost Pool now earns about $30,000 revenue per year. If left uncovered, a more attractive deck, a place for sunning, more special events, and a sauna and spa could boost the pool's revenue to $40,000 to $60,000 a year and make it come close to breaking even on operating costs. If the pool were covered, revenue would increase. With the proper mix of facilities, the pool should be more able to pay its costs and its debt service. The City of Mountlake Terrace, for example, shows a small profit from its pool operation. Competent management and a market -oriented facility may make revenue bonds a realistic way to finance improvements at the pool. Attached is information on pool financing and management, and new ideas for pool covers. I request that a decision be made on whether the pool should be covered. If it is to be covered, I suggest that staff investigate further methods of financing, with emphasis on a strategy that would make revenue bonds a way to fund the improvements. SOS/mw Attachments YOST PARK POOL RECOMMENDED REPAIRS BEFORE 1984 SEASON 1. Repair Leak There is a major leak, most likely in the main drain piping. Repairs will probably require removing a section of the pool tank. 2. Reline Pool and Repair Gutter Tile The pool tank has developed cracks and the gutter tile has lifted due to winter freezing. The tile can no longer be repaired. 3. Replace Deck The deck is cracked and expansion joints have opened, exposing metal reinforcing. Several injuries have occured on this. 4. Replace Fence Additional deck space is needed to expand the pool's capacity for paying customers. Existing fence is not an efficient deterrent to after-hours visitors. 5. Cover Upper Deck and Add Storage and Office Space The upper deck continues to leak into the office and locker area. Office space is cramped and storage non-existent. The boiler room is used for storage now, but the pool is under notice it cannot con- tinue to store items there. 6. Tax, ContingencyContingenSy and Miscellaneous Cost: $10,000 - $ 15,000 Cost: $ 35,000 Cost: $ 22,500 Cost: $ 3,000 Cost: $ 30,000 Cost: $ 15,000 TOTAL $120,500 YOST PARK POOL SWIMMING POOL COVER City Council approved bonds for Yost Pool at their May 4, 1971 meeting. At the same meeting the Council asked for recommendations from the Swimming Pool Committee for covering the yet -to -be -built pool. Three years later a Yost Park Swimming Pool Enclosure Study Committee made a report that included the following conclusions: The community does want a year-round pool in Edmonds. The best course of action is to enclose the Yost Park Pool. Ten years after the pool's completion, the City still discusses the possibility of covering Yost Pool. Covering the pool is the highest priority item in the Parks and Recreation Comprehensive Plan. Yost Pool, run since it construction without problems, now needs major maintenance. The Buildings and Grounds Division reports that the pool will not be able to be opened in 1984 unless repairs are made in the spring. The City should make a decision about the future of the pool before the budget is completed for 1984. Both major maintenance and minor improvements are affected by the decision to cover the pool or leave it outdoors. WHY COVER THE POOL? 1. Yost Pool was never designed to be an outdoor pool. The pool isn't weathering well because it was not designed to stand freezing temperatures. Both the tile and deck need replacing because of cracking and heaving. 2. The cost per day of operation of the pool is very high. Leaving the pool closed for most of the year does not conserve the mechanical equipment. It deteriorates whether or not we use it. 3. The pool represents a $800,000 investment (replacement value). Using it for ten weeks out of the year makes poor use of the money invested in it. The original expenditure was made assuming the pool would be used year-round. It is likely the pool never would have been built if it were intended to remain a summer only pool. 4. The pool needs renovation and construction of storage and office space. It makes sense to do these projects concurrently rather than piecemeal. WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? 1. Repair the pool tank and plumbing to eliminate leaks. This may include replacing the gutter and overflow tile, removing and replacing portions of the tank to get to the drain lines, and fiberglassing the tank. 2. Add storage for pool operation supplies and either additional office space or a pool staff room. 3. Add features that would make the pool financially self-supporting such as: An exercise area, racquetball courts, snack bar, children's pool, sauna, spa, tanning room, etc. 4. Include in the construction opening walls or roof that takes advantage of the beauty of the site. HOW MUCH WILL IT COST? The cost will depend upon the type of covering and kinds of other improvements that are added to the pool. Covering the pool can cost from $100,000 to $1,000,000. Repairs will cost between $50,000 and $120,000. Improvements will range from $50,000 to $600,000, depending upon the type and amount of space needed for them. The following estimate is for preliminary planning only. Pool Repairs $ 80,000 Pool Cover 850,000 Other Improvements 600,000 TOTAL $1 ,530 ,000 An accurate estimate could vary as much as $500,000 on either side of this one. A market demand study could give the City an idea of what mix of facilities would have the best chance of being self-supporting. This would give us the outline for a master plan and an accurate cost estimate. HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT? The amount of money needed forces the City to borrow money for the project. The City has the following options for borrowing: 1. Revenue Bonds. Revenue from the pool and other recreational facilities constructed with the funds would be pledged to retire the bond. 2. Councilmanic Bonds. General revenue would be pledged to pay the obligation. The City has the option of passing the 1/4% real estate tax for capital improvement projects. This tax option was given to cities to take the place of parks (and other) in lieu assessments. The City's park in lieu fund has been dead since the City passed the 112% sales tax option. The 1/4% real estate tax could be earmarked for paying this capital improve- ment project. 3. General Obligation Bonds. The issue would be presented to the voters and would include an additional tax to property owners in Edmonds. I recommend the City look carefully at revenue bonds to fund pool improvements. With this approach, as much of the cost of the project as is possible can be passed to the users of the facility. Careful attention to the project will be needed to be sure the pool opera- tion will be economically successful. ntroduction Conventional public swimpools typically raise enough revenue to offset only a portion of their total operating costs. In an age of reduced public services con- stant annual deficits are jeopard- izing the existence of community pools throughout the nation. While community support for public pools is usually strong, local officials must identify stra- tegies that can help community pools become self -efficient. Community pools don't have to operate in the red. The objective should be a commitment to a management/marketing strategy that fits the needs of your com- munity and leads to community pool self-sufficiency. Local of- ficials and government bodies can take steps to initiate pool facility up-date/revisions, pro- grams and activities that improve the net revenue of community pool operations and provide bet- ter service to the public. Conventional public swimpools are losing revenues because the public pool experience hasn't changed in 25 years. Today public pools must compete against a broad array of interesting and exciting activities for people's recreational time and visiting most of them has become uninter- esting, dull to the point of bore- dom. Only on the very hottest days of summer are people willing to settFe for dipping in a tan type pool in numbers suf icfent ❑ make it oav for community to opegates_ - In the absence of innovation, public pools have no way to just- ify needed increased admission fees. Fees just can't be raised successfully without an increase in satisfaction for the patron. The public really doesn't care about increased operating costs. They are willing to pay increased fees only if more and better activities are offered to them --to make the experience of the public pool visit more exciting and enjoyable. A dozen or so years ago private investors realized swimming had the highest public participation of any sport, yet a pool alone wasn't enough to generate crowds and sustain a profitable business. They determined that exciting water related attractions and activities plus a festive environ- ment are necessary to attract large numbers of people and sus- tain repeat business. Thus began the aquatic park concept of water recreation. It has been eminently successful. Successful in gener- ating new interest in different kinds of water activities and successful in sustaining repeat business by developing str attraction value. The solution to the conventional public pool problem is quite clear. It is this. Innovate or die. Local officials must look seriously at the aquatic park concept. Deter- mine how, and how much it can be applied in their community pro- gram. And take action. Of course, all of the innovations developed by the private water parks may not be practical in every community, yet many of them can be done at very reason- able cost, and some can be done virtually without expense... by using innovative thinking. The following pages will suggest some options to be considered and some ways and means of obtain- ing them. T_ , o be successful The time has come for city and county government leadership to re -think priorities with regard to public swimpools. Today, they need to generate a "profit" for the taxpayers. A "profit" to help off- set operating expenses and reduce the tax burden on the citizens of the community. As things stand now, it would be difficult to justify higher admis- sion fees than in the past. How- ever, if a new type of facility is made available offering new rec- reational opportunities not before available in a conventional pool, then increased fees can be charg- ed to produce a profit for the tax- payers without causing negative reaction from patrons. This new type of water park facil- ity has to offer full family recrea- tion considering all age groups. It must serve more people in more different ways -- in the morning, afternoon, evening, possibly even after midnight. It must address it- self to specialized group activities and group sales. Special attention should be given to aesthetics, use of color, super - graphics, flowers, flags, carpeted deck area, benches, large and at- tractive eating areas, even spec- tator space. deas to consider for your plan. The first thing to do is increase the amount of useable space inside theenceamun U theexist�ptial. l�la lave a cTipin-lin k f-nee-right Ys n ex t io the na rrnw conere desk -- w t e e poo sits onji in.e, big — and mostly under-�ed.__pareI of Iand. Move the fence line out. More land inside the fence means more ca- pacity, more freedom for water re- lated activities for a more enjoy- able experience. The cost is simply the cost of fencing. Most pool fac- ilities can accommodate moving the fence out right now at very little if any cost to their com- munities. When more land around the pool is encompassed by the fence it becomes easy and inexpensive to integrate other recreational acti- vities such as tetherball, wiffle- ball, schuffleboard, ping-pong, water polo or volleyball into the pool facility itself. It is relatively inexpensive to set up for these activities -- for instance, a sand surface court for volleyball -- yet it pays big dividends in enthusiastic support and repeated use. As you plan, remember small children need shallow water. There are now inexpensive shallow water/playground pools with varying depths of water, sliding boards, water cannons and foun- tains spraying water with play- ground/theme equipment right in and around the water. They are exciting, adventurous places for children to play. They come bac. again and again. And they bring their parents. Disabled persons appreciate a ramp or lift for entrance to the pool. In fact, we've found children as well as senior citizens prefer a ramp or steps over a ladder en- trance to a pool at the shallow end. Additionally, parents, grandpar- ents and other adults prefer a large lounge or sunning area away from the hustle and bustle of the pool. Consider a deck or carpeted area exclusively for adults without children. Swimmers get hungry and thirsty and become anxious to buy food and drink. Adequate food service should be provided inside the fence, but in a restricted area as a service facility and a revenue producer. There are food service organizations that offer technical assistance and tailored programs designed to minimize waste and emphasize a high profit menu for public facilities. Research tells us 50 percent of Wavetek pool Boer's time is spent in the water, yet only 10 per cent of a conventional pool goer's time is spent in the water. The rest of the time is spent sunbathing, people watching, etc. It is impor- tant then that the out -of -water at- mosphere is pleasant and attrac- tive. The generous use of super - graphics throughout the facility, painting the bathhouse, locker rooms, pump house, etcetera in bright appealing colors is a must. Add tables with brightly colored umbrellas, shade structures, car- pet and multi -colored flags to create a welcome and festive "feel" to the appearance of the pool area. Put in picnic tables where people can view the pool, but are clearly away from the pool with food... a picnic area. Installing apparatus such as phystca con iti�ing-equipment and playground equipment on the grounds draws people other than hardcore swimmers. Installing hot tubs, sauna or steambaths n the facility are attractions that justify increased fees. The more of this type of installation you have the wider the appeal to different age groups ... the more the facility relates to the entire "family" of the community. Look into installing a Rampage Water Coaster --or a water slide which could feed into an end of the existing pool, or a low cost catch pool nearby. Either would add excitement, increase daily attendance and give you a perfect opportunity to raise fees to cover operations, maintenance and something extra for future de- velopments --a profit for the tax- payers. If you carry out all or most of the suggestions outlined here you can turn a tired old pool program into an exciting, self-sufficient winner for your community. As you make changes and im- provements in your facilities the front gate admission fee should be raised. Experience shows a single adequately large admis- sion fee at the gate is most eco- nomical to collect and most suc- cessful at generating revenues in excess of operating costs. Other than food and rental items such as rafts, people resent additional charges for the use of equipment and activities once they are inside the facility. If you put in a shallow water playground or a water coaster, charge 500 higher fee at the gate and have 50,000 atten- dance, you generate $25,000 new additional revenue per year. So, for one admission charge you can offer a whole array of water related recreation activities and draw more people to your aquatic recreation center than you ever thought possible until now. The increased fees can reduce the tax burden on all the residents of the community and increase the share paid by the residents wh benefit most --the users. Finally, the entire facility must be managed as a business --for profit. Once you've provided ex- citing facilities, activities and amenities for your patrons to en- joy, you have to manage growth in attendance --create special events and activities that draw more citizens to your water recrea- tion facilities. You have to control costs, and watch every aspect of the operation from the stand- point of generating community pool self-sufficiency and a profi+ for the taxpayers. reative financing for communities If we understand that up -grading existing public pools to commun- ity aquatic recreation centers will generate additional income sufficient to pay their way, then the best reason for moving for- ward may be the one holding you back. Funding. Where will the money come from to fund initial capital improvements? Fortunately a variety of creative financing methods are available to communities to maintain or up- grade services. And when a new approach can save tax dollars, or show a "profit" for taxpayers it is important to find an affordable way to finance the start-up costs. nvestment Criteria It only makes sense that a study of ways to finance community improvements begin with an out- line of investment guidelines such as--- * Will the project really pay out in the long run? * Will the earnings justify the initial start-up costs and inter- est charges? * What specific improvements can be expected in terms of--- ---Earningson operations. ---Citizen satisfaction. —Positive impact on the community. The best way to get the answers to these questions is to contact com- munities that have already made the change. Wavetek Inter- national, Inc. has a list they'll send to you on your request. When you've determined that up- grading public pool facilities offers you real earnings poten- tial, explore the variety of ways available to finance the project. ways to find to money [I] Tax Strategies DESCRIPTION: Provided proper authorization is established, com- munities may earmark part of their revenues from tax increases to fund the start-up cost of munic' pal improvements such as an aquatic recreation center. HOW IT WORKS: The economy of the past decade has forced many communities to raise taxes to cover increasing operating costs. Higher taxes are, of course, far more accept4ble to citizens if they know the revenues will help develop earnings and perhaps avoid a larger tax increase later. For example, the earnings gen- erated by developing an aquatic recreation center could permit local officials to reallocate funds to other service areas and perhap, even reduce taxes. Many local governments reliance on property tax has diminished as sales tax gross receipts have increased and income taxes have been adopted. Some communities have the option of selecting from a variety of taxes making them better able to deal with the nega- tive reaction associated with increased taxes. Of course, a short term increase that leads to a demonstrable long term decrease would generate a more positive public attitude toward any municipal tax de- cision. 2 Pay -As -You -Go DESCRIPTION: Pay-as-you-go is a system of meeting costs as they occur out of current earnings. HOW IT WORKS: Communities can finance capital projects with- out going into debt through the pay-as-you-go method. The fund available to use is the difference between the total current income and the amount needed for oper- ating expenses and reserves. It is sometimes called an enterprise fund. Pay-as-you-go requires careful planning. If a project will take several years to complete, care must be taken to insure the com- munities projected financial cap- ability for that period of time is adequate. The major advantage is elimina- tion of interest costs. It also pro- tects borrowing capacity for emergencies and avoids the in- convenience and cost of market- ing a bond issue. The key element for success is the assurance of adequate future revenues available for the project. Changing economic conditions may interfere with meeting the desired goals. Pay-as-you-go can fall victim to fluctuating expense demands over time. j Short Term Notes DESCRIPTION: A short term note is a credit instrument involv- ing a written promise to pay a specified sum of money at a speci- fic time, usually about a year. HOW IT WORKS: Communities approach local or state banks to issue notes for needed facilities and/or equipment. Financial officers then establish a line of credit that will allow automatic borrowing up to a limited amount of money. Notes are often a pre- ferable form of financing because a lump sum can be borrowed at the time of need, then repaid in installments over the following ,year, or several ,years. A disadvantage to using short term notes is the relatively high interest cost involved in tempor- ary borrowing. Historically, com- munities have used short term notes only to solve emergency cash flow problems, or in antici- pation of tax revenues. Yet, this method of financing is easier than organizing a bond issue for public sale. Notes are gaining favor as a funding option when eventual revenue gains can be reliably predicted. Of course, local officials should check legal restrictions related to their particular community char- ters or state laws. 4 j Joint Financing DESCRIPTION: This is a methoe of obtaining funds for a project through the mutual cooperation of city and county governments. HOW IT WORKS: With the con- stant increase in the cost of capi- tal projects, cities have turned to county governments to partici- pate in programs that will benefit both jurisdictions. Examples include the building of city/county office buildings or development of joint sanitary landfill sites. In this case, a municipality would negotiate some specific county funding to partially cover the costs of an aquatic recreation center in exchange for accepting patrons from outside the city limits. City officials have discovered that many county officials are quite receptive to new ideas in- volving the sharing of facilities, service responsibilities and costs. Local officials should recognize they need to set aside traditional thinking concerning jurisdictions in order to build acceptance for joint financing. Very clear agree- ments and commitments are es- sential for success. However, the additional funding obtained from the county can make the differ- ence in whether an important project goes forward or not. So, this approach to funding is worth serious consideration. [ -I Bond Issues DESCRIPTION: A bond is an ob- ligation of a municipality eviden- ced by a written certificate for a stated amount of money for a stated term. HOW IT WORKS: Municipals issue bonds to pay for capital projects that would be unafford- able on a pay-as-you-go basis. There are two general types of bonds. They are: GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS --State law enables city govern- ments to issue this type of bond. They are guaranteed by the faith and credit of the municipality. As a result, a relatively lower interest rate is usually obtained. A general obligation bond issue is usually subject to public referendum. REVENUE BONDS --These bonds are backed by specific revenues generated by a capital project. Financially self-sufficient programs such as aquatic recrea- tion centers meet the require- ments. The bonds, are exempt from state imposed debt limits and are usually issued without a public vote. However, since they don't enjoy guaranteed status, they require relatively higher interest rates. Though sometimes necessary, issuing municipal bonds can be complicated and expensive. As mentioned earlier, general obli- gation bonds usually require voter approval. So, there are political considerations to be dealt with, plus costs of advisers, legal counsel and special printing. Bond advisers are needed to as- sist with the preparation of the issue, but may not necessarily participate in buying or selling the bonds in the market. We sug- gest you study your options care- fully when considering a bond issue. Reserve Funds DESCRIPTION: Cash is accumu- lated in advance to fund capital improvement projects. HOW IT WORKS: A variation of the pay-as-you-go method, reserve fund financing requires city finance officials accumulate money in advance of a payment schedule. This can be done through a surplus, or earmaked opera- tional revenues set aside, from depreciating accounts, or from the sale of capital assets. Gathering reserve funds requires fiscal self-discipline. Thorough planning is needed to be certain that revenue will be sufficient to provide the dollars necessary to fund the project. One way to as- sure this is to invest the reserve wisely so the fund can generate interest income. While reserve funds eliminate interest costs and the incon- venience of borrowing, changes in the economy could make it difficult to meet the intended goals. 7 Municipal Lease/Purchase DESCRIPTION: A form of con- tract transfering the use of equip- ment or facilities in consideration for scheduled payments to a municipal leasing company. At the end of the lease term, the equipment or facility becomes the property of the community. HOW IT WORKS: Municipal lease/purchase agreements offer communities a way to fulfill equipment or facility need with- out paying out large sums of money up front. This gives of- ficials a way to cover purchases without issuing bonds or asking voters for a tax increase. Lease payments are made over several years, freeing available cash to be used for salaries and other operating costs. The leasees (communities) choose the equipment they need; negoti- ate for the best deal possible; and arrange for delivery at a specific time. The leasing companies often tailor the leasing agreement to the special needs of a community; such as mixing a special equip- ment package, or arranging the payment schedule to conform to the revenue pattern of the par- ticular town. Depending on the form of city government a lease would not necessarily need voter approval. Therefore, communities at or near their debt level, could still have the option to lease needed equip- ment. An important considera- tion when searching for funding to begin a turn -around program. Private Investor Lease/Purchase DESCRIPTION: Similar to municipal lease/purchase except it involves local investor/business people who set up a company to operate as either a profit center or a tax shelter, providing certain financial services to the local government. HOW IT WORKS: Recently leas- ing has become a popular method of financing capital improvement projects such as large facility or equipment purchases. While lease/purchase contracts do not provide immediate ownership, they require relatively small cash outlays allowing existing reven- ues to cover operating expenses. Lease/purchase agreements elim- inate a need for a down payment and permit longer payment schedules than usually available with most conventional loans. Leasing facilities and/or equip- ment for a community aquatic recreation center can represent a business opportunity for local entrepreneurs and keeps local dollars working in the community. Increasingly, local officials are turning to dealing with local business/investors due to grow- ing confidence in their ability to guide a project to profitability and therefore success for the community. Because of the earnings a com- munity aquatic recreation center can generate, a city can provide worthwhile financial benefits to its taxpayers and a profitable enterprise for local investors through private investor leasing. 9 Private Developer Leasing DESCRIPTION: A form of con- tract transfering the use of mu- nicipal facilities or land to a pri- vate developer in consideration for regularly scheduled payments to a city government. At the end of the lease term, the contract can be renegotiated or the use of the facility and/or land revert to the city government. HOW IT WORKS: The city leases an existing facility, such as a public pool, to a private developer who by contract must follow strict guidelines in the additional de- velopment of the facility into an aquatic recreation center and the manner in which it is operated. The city would receive a fixed scheduled payment or a percent of the revenue generated by the operation --or both. This approach requires the de- veloper provide the capital to build the facility that's needed. Lease payments are made over many years, developing cash to be used for municipal salaries and other operating costs. Depending on the form of city government, leasing city property to developers would not neces- sarily need voter approval. There is no risk of loss to the city in this type of arrangement. Whereas currently they are losing money on every conventional pool. Citizen Donation DESCRIPTION: A gift of money or land for use in developing specific facilities or services. HOW IT WORKS: The donor writes a check or signs over the land to the city --and gets a federal tax write-off for their generosity. It's a gift that keeps giving. The community continues to generate revenue from the gift year after year. If your community has a wealthy individual or group who might benefit from such a dona- tion, contact them. This approach to funding a water recreation center is worth serious considera- tion by community leaders and community -spirited individuals alike. word from the sponsor. Rampage is a water coaster that gives 360 riders an hour the breathtaking experience of plung- ing down a 63 foot slide on special surf-boggans and the joy of hydroplaning up to 100 feet to a smooth, safe stop. Rampage is a sensational attrac- tion that has proven successful with existing swimpools, and at beaches, ponds or lakeside. It adds excitement, increases at- tendance, lengthens visits and generates more income wherever it's placed. When installed with existing swimpools, and the front gate admission fee is raised, it is extremely successful at increas- ing revenues. Initial cost is a fraction of more expensive water slides, delivered to your site ready for quick and easy installation for under fifty thousand dollars. Rampage is economical to operate and maintain. No pumps to buy or fix. It operates with a pneu- matic actuator at the launch gate. Rampage has high visibility. It even looks exciting and signals a great season of thrills for your patrons. Look into Rampage for your community pool program. RECREATION PAVILION POOL "TIPS, TECHN`UES AND TRENDS AQUATIC PROGRAMS" 1. How many people use your swimming pool facility per year? 1981 - Public swim attendance 97,160 Sauna/spa attendance 2,424 Instruction attendance 99,286 Rentals - public schools 51500 Rentals - private swim team and synchronized 6,OOO Rentals - public 3,600 213,970 2. What were your total aquatic revenues? 1981 - Public open swims @ 504t & $1.00 $ 71,775 Instruction @ $1.35/lesson 135,852 Rentals @ $25.00/hour 11,336 $218,9fi 7 Additional Misc. Revenue: Lockers $ 4,000 Goggles 1,350 Swim Caps, nose clips, badges, towel rental 400 $ 5,750 TOTAL REVENUE: $224,713 3. What were your total aquatic maintenance and operational costs? 1981 - Aquatic part-time salaries $ 64,500 Aquatic Supervisor & benefits 26,000 Asst. Aquatic Super. & benefits 19,500 Uniforms 10000 Operational supplies 1,400 Office supplies 1,500 Advertising 1,000 Printing - brochures 1,200 Maintenance and utilities 50,000 Clerical 37,500 Insurance 8,000 $211,600 TOTAL REVENUE: TOTAL EXPENSES: $225,000 212,000 $ 13,000 NOTE: These figures were broken away from multiple complex annual report and retained as needed to maintain pool if it were alone - ie: one maintenance person instead of custodial and two maintenance. We do realize, however, that our pool operation thrives to some extent because it is a multiple complex. 3. Identify and prioritize the seven most important qualitites of your program. 1. Friendly, approachable, concerned staff. 2. Quality of instruction program. 3. Emphasis on cleanliness, safety and health standards for facility. 4. Comfort zone - water temperature 860. S. Flexability and variety of programing. 6. Program to meet needs of community. 7. Reasonable fees. 4. Specify or illustrate all methods of publicizing and promotion. Which are are most effective, least effective? 1. Printed materials: Newspaper releases, ads, special features. Brochures - permanent and seasonal Telephone books High school annuals Newsletter to residents Flyers - special attractions - events Surveys Skill progression cards Pre-school patches Red Cross cards 2. Audio: Radio Parent -Tot, pre-school, safety program speakers (staff) 3. Visual: T. V. special events, people, programs Slide presentations Multiple complex (seen by all Recreation Department users) Bulletin boards, pictures Achievement boards Pre-school patches Red Cross pins Water Shows Competition (swim meets) 4. Free swim passes - to special groups Resident packets Discount swim passes/convenience cards Host special events - swim teams, water carnivals, water shows, public rentals Private schools - lessons, swims Most effective Least effective (They all have some measure of effectiveness) Satisfied customers School annual Word of mouth Newsletter Multiple complex (seen by all) Free passes Speakers - personal contact Newspaper Discount cards Now summer is a year-round affair. And enjoying a refreshing and health -invigorating swim is an everyday delight. If you've ever wanted a pool but declined because of a short summer, Super Swim gives you 365 reasons to reconsider. Super Swim is an entirely unique concept in pool enclosures, allowing pool owners everywhere to enjoy year-round swimming fun. The canopy can be easily pulled aside in a matter of minutes to let swimmers enjoy all the delights of a fine summer's day without the annoying pillars and walls that typify other pool enclosure systems. If the weather turns inclement, the canopy can be quickly closed and Super Swim provides its own ideal swimming environment. And comparisons have proved that Super Swim is super efficient in saving on both energy and maintenance costs. When the weather's beautiful, open up the canopy and enjoy all the delights of nature's favorite season in your outdoor pool. When nature's moods turn a mite nasty, just close up the canopy you've still got a window on the outside world but you're safe and warm. Photo : Toyonaka City Municipal Pool, Osaka A city pool which utilizes waste heat from a sludge decomposition process plant. A bright twofold structure. Recreation Pavilion Pool -3- 5. If you could make any changes you wanted, to make your aquatics program more successful and cost effective, what would they be? Present facility - cost effectiveness: a. Use of photozone (water chemistry) b. Pool blanket c. Extend hours of operation to 20 hours per day d. Install a game room Present facility - more successful: a. Ramp for disabled b. Improve locker room facility - add 2 enclosed showers, plumbing, floor covering Additional construction: a. Hore pool space - 50 meter pool, wave teck, another spa, sauna, indoor plants, solarium, restaurant b. Leisure facility for whole family - adults, seniors, children - and program for such. What do you see as some present challenges and/or future trends in marketing aquatics? 1. Swimming is #1 leisure activity in U. S. and Europe 2. Provide for total population (babies, pre-school, elementary, teens, families, adults, seniors, special or disabled). Specialized and mainly leisure 3. Incorporate cost effectiveness in facility to remain open and in-service. 4. Market our product! a. Attractive packaging: facility - clean, pleasant, sharp staff - clean, pleasant, sharp, well trained, receptive, people oriented - "you gotta wanta" .b. Quality product: Programs - recreational swims, instruction, special events "make it great" c. Answer a need! Program to all people d. Affordable supply and demand test your market d4 "ell 'IP 7r 42 Az,