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2023-01-12 Historic Preservation Commission MinutesCITY OF EDMONDS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Summary Minutes of Regular Meeting January 12, 2023 CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, AND LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT Chair Vogel called the meeting of the Edmonds Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:35 p.m. and read the Land Acknowledgement. Commissioners Present Larry Vogel (Chair) Jeremy Mitchell (Vice Chair) (online) Chris Deiner-Karr Katie Kelly David Preston Tim Raetzloff Sam Spencer' Commissioners Absent None A/HNITTF.q: Staff Present Michele Szafran, Planner Mike Clugston, Senior Planner Others Present Dave Teitzel, Edmonds City Council Representative Approval of December 8, 2023 HPC Minutes The December 8, 2023 HPC minutes were approved as presented. AGENDA ADDITIONS/CHANGES • Chair Vogel added a discussion about accessing emails under New Business. REQUESTS FROM THE AUDIENCE There were no audience comments. NEW BUSINESS ' Commissioner Spencer arrived at 5:45 p.m. Historic Preservation Commission Meeting Minutes January 12, 2023 Pagel of 3 Discussion on support for an addition to the Register: o Commissioner Deiner-Karr gave an update on her weir research. She is at a standstill because she has been unable to locate the folder on documentation about the weir from the Commission's work ten years ago. She will try to get in touch with Diane Cunningham and Steve to see if they have any information. o Commissioner Raetzloff recalled that there was some reason Steve was opposed to putting it on the Register. o Councilmember Teitzel wondered if the weir could still be on the Register if part of it is destroyed. o Commissioner Raetzloff thought they should just worry about getting it on the Register first and get signage put up. o Commissioner Spencer suggested they put in a recommendation identifying the part they would like to save — the part with the hole that would have had the wooden pipe going through it. He noted he has pictures of the two sections as a reference of what it looks like now. o Vice Chair Mitchell noted that there is a section in ECDC 20.45.02 for processes of designating a property or structure. Part D indicates that HPC shall consider the merits of the nomination according to established rules at a public meeting. o Councilmember Teitzel noted that Shell Creek is a salmon -bearing stream, and they get up as far as Glen Street. The City is trying to get the man-made waterfall there resolved so fish can come up and make their way back to Yost Park. He summarized that there is an effort to get salmon up there and restore the stream to its natural streambed. o There was a recommendation to bring this to a public hearing along with a presentation at the next meeting or as soon as possible. Commissioner Deiner-Karr suggested that whoever is the project planner should try to be at the meeting. Councilmember Teitzel thought Director Feser would be the appropriate staff person to attend. Ms. Szafran noted they need to have time to do a staff report, public noticing, and make sure the application is complete. They need to find out what the UTM is. There was a suggestion to get in touch with Diane Cunningham about this. o Chair Vogel commented that there has been some vandalism in the Shell Creek drainage area. Someone has cut down a number of trees which has had an impact on erosion, silting into the stream, and salmon incubation boxes there. o Vice Chair Mitchell stated that all or a portion of a structure can be on the Register. He wondered about the timeline for repair and if they should do the work before putting it on the Register. Putting it on the Register first could hold up the getting the work done. Councilmember Teitzel wasn't sure about the timing because they haven't hired a consultant yet but the hope is to get it done this year. o Commissioner Spencer suggested that they make a recommendation to try to save part of it subject to the engineer's recommendation. He did not think the part they want to save is impeding the stream in any way. The critical aspect is to the get the work done and get the stream where it needs to be. Vice Chair Mitchell commented that even if they have to remove all of it, they can still save a part and put it somewhere else on the site. o There was consensus to have another discussion about this at the next meeting under Unfinished Business with the package that Commissioner Spencer has put together and to invite Director Feser and Joe Scordino. There was discussion about recognizing the site, not the structure. Then, it can still be recognized even if the City is unable to preserve a portion. Councilmember Teitzel commented that the City has every intention of preserving what is preservable. It was emphasized that the HPC was in support of the City's work on this stream. Historic Preservation Commission Meeting Minutes January 12, 2023 Page 2 of 3 2. Discussion about email communications — Chair Vogel said he had sent a note about accessing city email and how to forward it to personal email. There was discussion about when and how to do this. UNFINISHED BUSINESS 1. Newsletter — Preservationist Resurrection: o Chair Vogel agreed to be the desktop publisher on this. He thought an article about the water system would be a great. Commissioner Spencer agreed to write it. o Commissioner Raetzloff suggested that a historic event next month could be about the 50t1i anniversary of the last train to Duvall. 2. Walking Tours: o There was consensus to do walking tours closer to spring. Commissioner Raetzloff expressed a desire to get trained so he can help with this. ACTION ITEMS • Commissioner Deiner-Karr stated that the calendar portion of the 2024 Calendar is done. As a theme for 2024 she liked Commissioner Spencer's idea of doing Edmonds' oddities. Some ideas were the alligator bus with the kids running to the back and flipping the bus up, the theater with the kids throwing popcorn over the edge, the oldest fire hydrant in the city, Haines Wharf, the troll tunnel, the monorail, the dome, Frank Peabody, the driftwood orca, and Otto's meat market. COMMISSION CHAIR COMMENTS Chair Vogel commented he would not be at the February meeting. Commissioner Raetzloff stated he also would be gone. Vice Chair Mitchell will be chairing the February 9 meeting. He received a nice email from Councilmember Chen thanking the HPC for the calendar. There was discussion about where the calendars went, who might need more, costs, and possibly printing more next year. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS • Commissioner Preston suggested adding a call to action on the back of the calendar to encourage owners of historic properties to list their properties. Chair Vogel agreed and asked him to also write a blurb for the newsletter about that. • Commissioner Deiner-Karr asked about updating the walking map. She also noted she was working with Betty Lou on some research and hoping they can look at some other historical sites. • Commissioner Preston said he enjoyed the calendar and is excited to get the next one out. • Commissioner Kelly wished everyone happy new year. • Commissioner Spencer spoke in support of saving part of the weir and getting a sign put up. • Vice Chair Mitchell wished everyone a happy new year. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 6:41 p.m. Historic Preservation Commission Meeting Minutes January 12, 2023 Page 3 of 3