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[Agenda
June 24, 2008
The Edmonds City Council meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Haakenson in the Council
Chambers, 250 5th Avenue North, Edmonds. The meeting was opened with the flag salute.
1.
2.
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Gary Haakenson, Mayor
Deanna Dawson, Council President Pro Tem
Peggy Pritchard Olson, Councilmember
Steve Bernheim, Councilmember
D. J. Wilson, Councilmember
Dave Orvis, Councilmember
Ron Wambolt, Councilmember
ELECTED OFFICIALS ABSENT
Michael Plunkett, Council President
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
STAFF PRESENT
Tom Tomberg, Fire Chief
Al Compaan, Police Chief
Duane Bowman, Development Services Director
Stephen Clifton, Community Services Director
Noel Miller, Public Works Director
Rob Chave, Planning Manager
Frances Chapin, Cultural Services Manager
Stephen Koho, Treatment Plant Manager
Jeannine Graf, Building Official
Bio Park, City Attorney
Sandy Chase, City Clerk
Jana Spellman, Senior Executive Council Asst.
Jeannie Dines, Recorder
COUNCILMEMBER WAMBOLT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OLSON, TO
APPROVE THE AGENDA IN CONTENT AND ORDER. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
Councilmember Wilson requested Item B be removed from the Consent Agenda and Councilmember
Wambolt requested Item G be removed.
COUNCILMEMBER WAMBOLT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OLSON, TO
APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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The agenda items approved are as follows:
Roll Call
A.
ROLL CALL
Approve
C.
APPROVAL OF CLAIM CHECKS #104978 THROUGH #105130 FOR JUNE 19, 2008 IN THE
Claim
Checks
AMOUNT OF $436,553.84. APPROVAL OF PAYROLL DIRECT DEPOSITS AND CHECKS
#46669 THROUGH #46732 FOR THE PERIOD OF JUNE 1 THROUGH JUNE 15, 2008 IN
THE AMOUNT OF $1,023,326.57.
Lawson
Statutory
Warranty
D.
ACCEPTANCE OF STATUTORY WARRANTY DEED FROM PHYLLIS L. LAWSON IN
Deed
CONJUNCTION WITH THE 76TH AVENUE WEST/ 75TH PLACE WEST WALKWAY
PROJECT.
Treatment
Plant
E.
REPORT ON BIDS OPENED ON JUNE 10, 2008 FOR THE PURCHASE OF TREATMENT
Chemicals
PLANT CHEMICALS AND AWARD TO JONES CHEMICAL, INC FOR SUPPLYING
SODIUM HYPOCHLORITE.
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Treatment
Plant F. REPORT ON BIDS OPENED ON JUNE 10, 2008 FOR THE PURCHASE OF TREATMENT
Chemicals PLANT CHEMICALS AND AWARD TO NORTHSTAR CHEMICALS, INC. FOR
SUPPLYING SODIUM HYDROXIDE AND SODIUM BISULFITE.
Correction ITEM B: APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 17 2008.
0 6 -17-08
Minutes Councilmember Wilson requested the minutes be amended as follows:
• Page 6, third paragraph, revise the last sentence to reflect that he was restating that it was Stevens
Hospital's conclusion that the deficiency was in the public engagement, not in the behavior, action,
engagement of the hospital.
Page 6, fifth paragraph, Councilmember Wilson requested staff verify via the audio tape the
accuracy of the second sentence.
COUNCILMEMBER WILSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WAMBOLT, TO
APPROVE ITEM B AS AMENDED. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Environ- ITEM G: APPROVAL OF LANDAU ASSOCIATES PHASE II INVESTIGATION/ENVIRONMENTAL
mental ASSESSMENT OF THE OLD MILLTOWN PARCEL ($11 100).
Assessment
of Old
Milltown Councilmember Wambolt recalled the Council approved $6500 for the consultant and noted the amount was
Parcel now $11,100. City Attorney Bio Park explained Landau Associates determined more extensive work was
required which was itemized in the exhibits. He noted there was an opportunity for a $1500 savings via a
summarized analytical report rather than a full report. The additional work such as drilling, sample costs, the
professional conducting the drilling, minimum charge for the drilling equipment, etc., were not included in
the original $6500 estimate. Mayor Haakenson commented Mr. Snyder was extremely upset with this
increase as he felt as though he put the Council on the hook with the $6500 estimate which was the amount
he was given and had contacted Landau Associates and the other contractor to express his disappointment
with the increase. Mayor Haakenson advised he had the ability to approve the higher amount but wanted the
Council to be aware of the increase. He summarized staff felt Landau simply failed to include a $3000 item
in the original bid.
COUNCILMEMBER WAMBOLT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER BERNHEIM, TO
APPROVE ITEM G.
Councilmember Bernheim did not support a $1500 savings due to the property's central location and the
importance of the environmental review of this potential park, commenting a full understanding of the facts
was essential.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. )
Mayor Haakenson commented because there was already a big hole in the ground to install a grease
interceptor, Mr. Gregg has signed off to allow Landau to begin the work.
Chamber of 3. PRESENTATION BY THE GREATER EDMONDS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REGARDING
Cormnerce
Membership THE MEMBERSHIP COMMITTEE.
Committee
Linda Aufrecht, Membership and Communications Manager, Edmonds Chamber of Commerce,
introduced Chris Keuss, Board Representative to the Membership Committee. Mr. Keuss commented
the Chamber currently had the most members in its history, 432 businesses. He provided the Membership
Committee's purpose statement, "To develop and implement strategies for the recruitment of new members
and the retention of existing members." He described promotion available to members that includes ribbon
cutting ceremonies for new businesses, website listing on the Chamber's website as well as a new website
EverythingEdmonds.com, preferred business directory, and office referrals.
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Mr. Keuss described networking opportunities that include after hours events held at member businesses,
monthly Chamber luncheons with guest speakers, and weekly breakfasts at Brighton Court. He noted the
Chamber Ambassadors would be making a presentation to the Council in a few weeks to describe their
program. He described the health benefit program available to members in partnership with Associated
Affiliates of America that provides members access to healthcare benefits as well as hotel discounts, car
rentals, shipping, credit card processing, human resource and payroll services, internet and telephone
communications and a prescription drug program.
th of July 4. DISCUSSION REGARDING MAKING A DONATION TO THE GREATER EDMONDS CHAMBER
Event
OF COMMERCE FOR THE 4TH OF JULY EVENT.
Jim Hills, Board President, Chamber of Commerce, explained the Chamber began paying for City
services in 2002; the cost of those services increased from $5,710 in 2003 to $8,700 in 2008. He explained
the Chamber budgeted $40,000 annually for the 4th of July activities which include the children's parade,
main parade and fireworks display. To date they have collected $28,000 in donations /sponsorships for the
event, with $12,000 left to collect. He requested a $3,000 donation from the City or whatever amount the
Council felt was appropriate.
Council President Pro Tern Dawson recalled since the decision was made to have the Chamber pay for City
services, the City had contributed to the 4th of July celebration on one other occasion. Mr. Hill recalled the
City contributed $2,000 in 2005 toward 4th of July expenses. Council President Pro Tern Dawson suggested
the Council consider the $3,000 donation which was z/4 of the remaining $12,000 and suggested the funds
come from the Council Contingency Fund which has a balance of $25,000.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT PRO TEM DAWSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER
WAMBOLT, TO AUTHORIZE $3,000 TOWARD THE 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION.
Councilmember Wambolt commented the 4th of July celebration was wonderful but expressed
disappointment that downtown businesses were closed in the afternoon. He asked whether there was any
movement toward those businesses remaining open, observing the businesses were missing a great
opportunity with numerous people downtown for the parade. Mr. Hill responded the Downtown Edmonds
Merchants Association, a Chamber committee, has been working with those businesses encouraging them to
extend their hours to take advantage of crowds during the car show, following the parade, etc. As they were
private businesses, it was ultimately their choice whether to remain open. He agreed it was a wonderful
opportunity to showcase Edmonds to the crowds attending those events.
Council President Pro Tern Dawson commented in the past the City contributed financially to the Chamber
in other ways such as via partnerships with the Port and Chamber which have since been discontinued. She
suggested the Council reconsider such a partnership during the 2009 -2010 budget process by including an
amount in the budget rather than ad hoc contributions such as this. Mr. Hill noted that later this week the
Chamber planned to meet with representatives of the Port and City to discuss how that partnership could be
restored.
Councilmember Bernheim commented the 0 of July celebration was also successful due to traffic closures.
He suggested merchants consider traffic closures for other events as a method of attracting large crowds,
pointing out in Europe there were many successful villages where areas with shops and restaurants were
closed to traffic. He hoped all the owners and employees of the stores in Edmonds took full advantage of
Independence Day and did not work if they chose.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
City Attorney Bio Park recommended calling this a contribution rather than a donation and to draft a short
agreement stating the consideration the City received for the $3,000 contribution. Council President Pro
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Tern Dawson commented it was in the public interest to bring visitors to the City and to present this event to
the public.
5. AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Councilmember Orvis clarified anyone wishing to speak regarding the Bettinger /Kretzler Historic Home
should do so during Audience Comments.
Tim Roddy, Chief Medical Officer, Stevens Hospital, commented after witnessing the exchange between
Stevens
Hospital the Council and the Stevens Hospital administration, he felt it was his responsibility to make a brief
appearance on behalf of the medical staff. He read a letter sent to the 5 Stevens Hospital Commissioners by
the 16 members of the Medical Executive Committee of Stevens Hospital. The letter commended Stevens
Hospital CEO Michael. Carter and the current administration for their intense efforts to stabilize and improve
the financial environment of the hospital given the desperate financial situation they inherited, stating the
medical staff was in the unique position to assess the strengths, weaknesses and needs of the institution. The
current facility is rapidly aging and approaching obsolescence; financial constraints have prevented the
necessary updates and their understanding was that without a large, rapid infusion of capital from some
source, those needs would not be able to be addressed in a reasonable timeframe. The letter cited recent
improvements in other hospitals such as a new cancer center at Providence Hospital and plans to open a new
hospital tower and Evergreen Hospital's recent completion of an extensive addition and plans to apply for a
Certificate of Need for 80 additional beds. With adjacent, competing hospitals updating and expanding
aggressively, the Medical Executive Committee felt the window of opportunity for a decision about Stevens
Hospital's future was open only temporarily and delay could only further erode their market position and
limit options to negotiate a strong partnership or obtain community support for a levy or bond. They
understood the choices include asking the voters of the district to dramatically increase their financial support
for the hospital via a combination of levy and bond issues or finding an outside capital source and
organization to work with the hospital as a partner. Although they did not favor one option over the other at
the present time, they felt a sense of urgency that a decision about the hospital's future course be made
without delay, preferably this summer. They urged Commissioners to promptly and completely review
options available as soon as feasible and to immediately embark on a course to achieve these long term goals
so the hospital could continue to provide high quality, up -to -date medical services the community deserved.
Dr. Roddy recalled Stevens Hospital's slogan, "medicine is changing, so is Stevens," commenting Stevens
did not have the money to make the changes that the world of medicine was calling for. A better slogan
would have been "medicine never stops," acknowledging there would always be diseases and illnesses that
bring people to a hospital. He observed the trust of Stevens' medical team had been called into question,
assuring that he trusted his family members to the physicians and medical team at Stevens Hospital, was
proud to support the hospital and believed Mr. Carter and his team would be responsible stewards of the
hospital's future direction.
Lora Petso, Edmonds, stated during an upcoming agenda item staff would tell the Council that building
City's
Funding maintenance was the City's top unfunded priority; she assured it was not her top priority, none of the
Priorities Councilmembers campaigned for office under support for a strong building maintenance program and few
citizens would identify that as a top priority. Many of the building maintenance projects sounded like make -
work and provided a sample project description she found on the City's website, to replace the carpet in the
Council Chamber area at a cost of $20,000. She did not view this a top priority and questioned the cost. She
cited other top priority items including $25,000 for the Library Plaza Room suggesting rental rates be
increased to cover improvements rather than raising utility taxes; $3,000 for cemetery gutters suggesting this
be funded from the cemetery account; $3,000 for lights in the log cabin, suggesting this be funded from the
Lodging Tax Fund; and $100,000 for work on the grandstands at the Civic Center fields, suggesting this be
funded from REST taxes. She suggested delaying any improvements to the grandstands until the City owned
the property. She preferred the Council utilize funds from existing accounts rather than raising utility taxes.
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She summarized building maintenance was not a top priority; General Fund monies should be treasured and
not tossed away on maintenance projects that could be funded via other sources.
sound Rob Johnson, Policy Director, Transportation Choices Coalition, referred to Agenda Item 10, the City's
Transit letter to Sound Transit regarding Phase 2, expressing support for Sound Transit placing Phase 2 on the ballot
this year and urging the City to support that effort. Although he was dismayed that the environmental
community was unable to reach a unified position on Prop 1 last year, they were united in their strong
support for a Sound Transit ballot measure this year. He cited increasing gas prices, global warming,
increasing transit ridership and tremendous growth occurring in the region as support for continued Sound
Transit investments. He explained Transportation Choices Coalition was working with Sound Transit to
bring light rail to Snohomish County and were optimistic Sound Transit 2 would be on the ballot this fall.
sound Rebecca Wolfe, Edmonds, Sierra Club, commented on her recent conversation with Governor Gregoire, a
Transit leader in the Western Climate Initiative who supports the Cool State Initiative. She noted mass transit,
increased express bus service, light rail and increasing ridership were high priorities due to the need to
reduce global warming and move people more efficiently in the region. She recognized the need for a
regional approach, pointing out although the Edmonds area was the City's top priority, there were no
boundaries for pollution and global warming. The Sierra Club, Transportation Choices and Futurewise
support increasing the concentration of transit and growth in urban areas in an effort to reduce sprawl. She
urged Council to support the Sound Transit 2 package, commenting there were discussions of beginning light
rail in Everett toward Northgate and extending light rail from Northgate toward Everett to eventually link.
She also commented on the need to coordinate with Community Transit to make connections more efficient
and to provide ways for riders to the east to reach transit centers.
dmonds Dave Page, Edmonds, reported Edmonds Automotive and Performance Auto in Lynnwood received top
Automotive ratings in a Puget Sound Consumers Checkbook in the Seattle Times that listed the top 27 auto repair shops
in King County and 2 in Snohomish County based on the best price, quality and service. Next, he referred to
his comments last week regarding the spotted owls' defeat of the logging industry from British Columbia to
�nd� egered Eureka, California. He described how in 1971 the discovery of a small fish, the Snail Darter, halted
construction of a dam in the Tennessee Valley that had been in progress for ten years at a cost of $200
million and the impact that declaring the Snail Darter an endangered species had on humans.
Electric Rich Senderoff, Edmonds, urged Council to consider replacing City vehicles with electric vehicles from
Vehicles Phoenix Motor Company. He explained the sport utility vehicles have a 130 mile range, accelerate from 0 to
60 in less than 10 seconds, and can be fully recharged via an onboard charger in less than 10 minutes. He
referred to presidential candidate John McCain's offer of $300 million to develop new battery technology,
noting this technology was already available. Phoenix Motor Company was selling fleet vehicles and taking
reservations for private vehicles. He noted this would be an excellent choice for City vehicles that did not
travel long distances. He offered to send the Council the company's website for further investigation;
Council President Pro Tem Dawson requested he provide the Council the website.
Development Tony Shapiro, Edmonds, encouraged Council to consider hiring a consultant to conduct a top down
Services analysis of the Development Services Department. He recalled hearings conducted in Snohomish County Department
and Lynnwood by the consultant he recommended last week where she queried developers regarding what
needed to be changed. Both Snohomish County and the City of Lynnwood experienced dramatic
improvement as a result and were operating in a more streamlined manner. He referred to his comments last
week regarding Edmonds' requirement for wet stamping, noting it was indicative of the "busy work
mentality" that prevails within the department, requiring applicants to perform steps that had no impact on
the life safety issues of a project. He explained wet stamping entailed the signing of the original that was
submitted and held on file at the City. He pointed out the federal government and federal courts
acknowledge fax copies of contracts with signatures attached and did not require original signatures.
However, Edmonds' Building Official insists that applicants submit wet stamped drawings. He disagreed
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with the department's assertion that this was a State requirement, pointing out this required a great deal of
time and energy in a time when files and drawings were sent electronically. He had other issues with the
management of the department such as unwritten policies that applicants cannot see or refer to while
preparing documents for submission but were imposed upon the applicant once their submission was made.
Roger Hertrich, Edmonds, commended Mr. Shapiro for his comments and remarked on the efforts to
June 17 combine the audio with the video of last week's meeting. He expressed concern that the minutes of the June
Council 17 meeting did not include his comments that Mayor Haakenson was in charge, that it was his responsibility
Minutes and he did not deserve a raise if he could not solve these problems. Next, Mr. Hertrich referred to the July 15
July 15 public hearing on the nuisance ordinance, expressing concern that the City was attempting to expand its
Public police powers over private property rights. Temporary tents /canopies for boats, trailers or campers or tarped
Hearing on
Nuisance firewood, equipment or spare vehicles would be illegal if the Council passed the ordinance proposed by
Ordinance Mayor Haakenson, Development Services Director Duane Bowman and Code Enforcement Officer Mike
Thies. He questioned what was the City's business versus residents' business and whether residents' front
yard, side yard and back yard should be under the City's control. He concluded unless citizens told the City
Council what they thought regarding who should control what was in their yard, residents would not be
allowed to store anything in their yard. He urged residents to attend the July 15 hearing due to the
importance of protecting their private property rights.
Bettinger� Fred Bell, President, Edmonds Historical Society, spoke in response to Council President Pro Tem
sDaw son's question last week regarding whether the Bettinger /Kretzler historic home could be moved a
Hsecond time. He advised the answer was yes. The person they were contemplating using to move the house
said the house could be moved any number of times as long as they were gentle with the house. He was
confident with this assessment, recalling the log cabin was moved from its original location to the present
site and was lifted a few years ago to place logs at the base of the cabin.
Rob Michel, Edmonds, referred to Agenda Item 7, Staff Response to Developers' Concerns, noting only
Development one developer spoke, and the others were citizens and property owners. He referred to two letters from
Services
Department individuals that contained similar comments. He referred to a meeting held on July 26, 2007 and minutes of
a presentation by Mr. Bowman to the Council on August 20, 2007 outlining a similar list of complaints
regarding the department. The Council directed the Community Services /Development Services Committee
to conduct a final review. He referred to the September 18, 2007 City Council meeting minutes that outlined
the outcome of these meetings, "staff outlined several recommendations in response to the July 26 special
meeting, 1) establishing a process to share code revision language to allow citizen feedback on the code
rewrite, 2) do a code change to eliminate the 28 day planning application completeness process, and 3) open
the department to match City Hall hours Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday with no permit
applications accepted after 4: 00 p.m. and on Wednesdays, the counter would be closed all day and phone
calls taken and directed to voicemail and the day devoted to plan review with emphasis on overdue reviews.
With regard to "subject to field inspection, " staff anticipated that would have limited application but had not
yet polled other cities." He noted neither recommendation 1 or 2 had been accomplished. He expressed
frustration that was all that had happened after the meetings in 2007, recalling several meetings were held
with Mr. Bowman in 2002 with similar concerns. He urged the City to hire a consultant to assist in
addressing these issues.
Marsha Lord, Coordinator, ASSE, explained they plan to bring 20 high school exchange students, 16 -18
High school
Exchange years of age, from Germany, France, Ital y, Portugal, and Spain to the Edmonds area from July 24 through
Students August 24. Classes will be held in classrooms at Westgate Chapel and the students will assist with setting up
and taking down the Taste of Edmonds. She invited the public to host a student, explaining this program
offered a host family an opposite exchange for an American student. She provided her contact phone
number 425 -582 -2727.
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Councilmember Wilson recognized Stevens Hospital Commissioner Chuck Day in the audience and thanked
Stevens the Stevens Hospital representatives for their presentation to the Council last week. He expressed his
Hospital p p p p
appreciation for last week's frank discussion and the message provided by Dr. Roddy tonight and hoped their
efforts would move forward.
Hettinger/ 1 6, DISCUSSION REGARDING MOVING THE HOUSE AT 555 MAIN STREET TO CIVIC CENTER
Historic
Historic PLAYFIELD AND A PROPOSED RESOLUTION EXPRESSING INTENT TO PRESERVE THE
Home BETTINGER/KRETZLER HISTORIC HOME.
Development Services Director Duane Bowman referred to the memo in the packet from Parks & Recreation
Director Brian McIntosh. He explained the Civic Center Playfield property was zoned Public Use and was
intended as a site for public facilities with minimal impacts on nearby property owners. He referred to
ECDC Section 16.80 that establishes the zoning requirements for the zone (Exhibit 2), assuming some type
of public use would be the result of placing the structure on the site.
Mr. Bowman commented key issues include the height of the building as it appears the building may be over
25 feet in height although this could be addressed via a Conditional Use Permit. Another issue was parking
that would be required for the intended use. The biggest issue was the setbacks; he displayed an aerial map
explaining the requirements for, 1) a 25 -foot setback from the alley to the south and 6th Avenue to the west,
and 2) a 25 -foot setback from the athletic field /track. The only potential location on the site was the
southwest corner; however, placing the house, excluding the garage, on the aerial photograph revealed the
site was too constrained by the required setbacks.
Mr. Bowman explained the building could be temporarily moved and stored on the site for 30 days but then
must have a foundation placed beneath it and requires a foundation permit be issued at the time the moving
permit was issued. There were also issues associated with utility hookups. If the building were designated
historic, some relief was available from full compliance with updating it to meet all current code
requirements but that was heavily dependent on the intended use of the building. He concluded it appeared
the City's zoning code requirements regarding the required setbacks eliminated the possibility of siting of the
building on the southwest corner of the Civic Center Playfield property. The only way it could be located
there would be to obtain variances. However, the City's variance criteria are very strict and he anticipated it
would be very difficult to justify a variance at that location.
Councilmember Wambolt remarked it was obvious this was not a suitable permanent location, recalling there
was discussion about it being a temporary location as time was of the essence because the property owners
want to proceed with development of a new building. He asked whether the house could be stored on the
property for up to six months. Mr. Bowman responded the code required a foundation be constructed within
30 days. He agreed with Mr. McIntosh's concern that if the house were relocated temporarily, the urgency to
identify and move it to a permanent location diminished.
Councilmember Orvis asked if the Council was making a decision whether or not to move the building to the
Civic Center playfield site. Mr. Bowman stated he was asked to provide the Council information regarding
the code requirements for that site. It was the Council's decision whether this was an appropriate site.
Council President Pro Tern Dawson asked staff to explain why obtaining a variance was not a viable option.
Mr. Bowman recommended the Council not discuss a variance in detail as they could be required to make a
decision in the future on appeal. With regard to the variance criteria, he questioned what special
circumstance of the lot required the house be located there; the circumstance was moving the house to that
location to preserve it but that was not a unique circumstance of the property. He summarized if he were to
prepare a staff report, it would be difficult to comply with the variance criteria such as grant of special
circumstance, grant of special privilege, not detrimental and intent of the zoning code.
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Councilmember Bernheim asked if other locations on the property had been considered. Mr. Bowman
answered other uses on the Civic Center playfields - sports fields, softball field, skate park, tennis courts,
open area used for recreation, and children's play area - made this the only potential location.
Councilmember Bernheim suggested the area north of the skate park. Mr. Bowman responded that was an
area used for various pick -up sports, placing a house in that location would affect those uses as well as raise
issues regarding access to the house.
Councilmember Orvis assured this was a starting point, not an ending point. The resolution stated the
Council was negotiating in good faith toward a solution. The Historic Society is willing to raise the funds to
move the house; the goal was to save the house and this was not the only location. The goal of the resolution
was to state the Council's intent to save the house and find a location on public property.
Council President Pro Tern Dawson pointed out the fifth Whereas clause states the southwest corner of the
Civic Field was a suitable site; she recommended striking that paragraph from the resolution as the
information presented tonight indicates that was not a suitable site. She noted even with the removal of the
fifth Whereas clause, efforts to find a suitable location could continue.
Councilmember Wambolt questioned the value of the resolution to the property owner particularly if the fifth
Whereas clause was removed. Mark Trumper, property owner, 555 Main Street, explained they were
doing everything possible to save the house. They were seeking assurance from the Council/City that they
wanted to save the house and a commitment that the house would stay in Edmonds; otherwise they needed to
pursue other options to move the house outside Edmonds. He envisioned the house had a future as a public
house for weddings, meetings, etc.; the problem was property in Edmonds was very expensive and it was
difficult to find a lot to place the house on. As a property owner, they wanted a decision at some point and a
commitment that the City was working in good faith to find a location and move the house.
Councilmember Wambolt questioned how the Council could commit to that as the Council was unable to
guarantee that a suitable site in Edmonds could be identified.
Councilmember Wilson asked if the resolution provided that level of commitment. Mr. Tramper responded
they thought the Civic Center playfield would work but based on staff's presentation it appeared this was not
an ideal site even temporarily. His question to the Council was what could be done to save the house.
Councilmember Orvis hoped the house could be saved due to its importance to the City's history. He was
willing to take a chance on applying for a variance. He stressed the importance of preserving the City's
history and if it was necessary to place the house in a park, that was what needed to be done. He noted the
Civic fields were not the only park land in Edmonds; it may be possible to identify another piece of park land
to site the house.
COUNCILMEMBER ORVIS, MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILSON, TO
APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 1176 WITHOUT THE FIFTH WHEREAS CLAUSE (WHEREAS, A
NEW SITE, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CIVIC FIELD IS OWNED BY THE EDMONDS
SCHOOL DISTRICT AND UNDER LONG -TERM LEASE WITH THE CITY OF EDMONDS HAS
BEEN REVIEWED BY THE EDMONDS MUSEUM AND FOUND SUITABLE, AND).
Council President Pro Tern Dawson thanked Councilmember Orvis for removing the fifth Whereas clause,
noting it would be inappropriate for the Council to make a determination that the Civic field was an
appropriate site in the event a variance was pursued in the future.
Councilmember Bernheim expressed his support for the resolution which recognized the historic importance
of the house and did not require public funding.
Councilmember Olson commented there was no guarantee but the Council wanted to try to save this house.
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Councilmember Wilson anticipated the Council would pass the resolution because it did not obligate the
Council to anything. To those working to save this house, he emphasized the Council did not have a solution
or a location in light of staff's comments that the Civic field was not an appropriate location. He suggested it
may be more prudent to delay approval of the resolution pending further work on a suitable site.
Councilmember Orvis pointed out the need to inform the owner of the Council's intent and passing this
resolution made that statement. Councilmember Wilson questioned whether the resolution provided the
property owner a strong enough statement. Council President Pro Tern Dawson pointed out the resolution
was what the Council could do today and the parties should continue to work on it. Councilmember Wilson
agreed, but questioned whether it would be more prudent to pass one resolution that solved the problem
rather than passing numerous resolutions as new information was developed.
Mr. Kent, property owner, 555 Main Street, acknowledged a resolution that identified a location where
the house would be moved would be preferable, recognizing this resolution may be the best the Council
could do now. He questioned the requirement for a 25 -foot setback from the track and whether that was
open to interpretation. City Attorney Bio Park cited ECDC 16.80.30(a), Minimum Setbacks, that states 25
feet maintained from adjacent residentially zoned property for all structures, play areas and structured
athletic fields. Mr. Bowman interpreted the track to be a structured athletic field. Mr. Kent asked how the
grandstands adhered to that code.
Mayor Haakenson pointed out the resolution states what the City was already doing, working with Mr. Bell,
property owners, and others to find a place for the house and passing this resolution would not change that.
Council President Pro Tern Dawson concluded passing the resolution was symbolic.
Councilmember Bernheim agreed with Mr. Kent, commenting he was not convinced that the 25 -foot setback
from the track was required, particularly in light of the grandstands being immediately adjacent to the track.
He also wanted the potential for a variance to be explored further.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Response to 7• STAFF RESPONSE TO DEVELOPERS' CONCERNS
Developers'
Concerns Development Services Director Duane Bowman advised this item was a response to comments made during
Audience Comments last week orchestrated by Tony Shapiro in regard to the Development Services
Department. He assured the Development Services Department was not dysfunctional, explaining the men
and women in the Building, Planning and Engineering Divisions along with Public Works and the Fire
Department were dedicated employees who try to do their best to provide the best service possible enforcing
adopted City, State and Federal regulations that govern development within the City. He recognized several
employees in the audience, stating he was proud to serve with them. He advised he had listened to the audio
of the meeting to identify all the issues raised.
Issues Raised by Ton.hpiro
• The Department is impacting the economic vitality of the city.
• The Department is creating a financial drain on applicants.
• Dysfunctional Department, staff is not professional and is discourteous.
• The Department requires things that are of no value, example wet stamping of drawings.
• Too much time /effort/energy is expended with no ultimate value to the product.
• Hire a Consultant
With regard to the comment that the department was dysfunctional, Mr. Bowman relayed that in 2007, the
building permit activity had a valuation of $66,953,307; 1,253 building permits were processed; and
$1,277,675 in building permit fees was received. In 2007, 3,787 building inspections took place for an
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average of 15 per day. In 2006, the building permit activity had a valuation of $66,254,907; processed 1,187
building permits; and brought in $1,222,700 in permit fees. In 2006, 4,632 building inspections took place
for an average of about 18.5 per day. In his opinion, this type of work production was not the sign of a
dysfunctional department.
With regard to wet stamping, Mr. Bowman explained this was a requirement of the State that applies to
architects and engineers. This was an issue raised solely by Mr. Shapiro that consumed hours of his time and
that of the Building Official responding to phone calls and e -mails from him. He provided an email sent to
Jeannine Graf from David Butler, Washington. State Board of Architects, that states electronic seals are okay
but the signature must be original and references WAC 308 -12 -081. He provided an email written by
Building Official Jeannine Graf to Mr. Shapiro, that referenced her October 25, 2007 email that states the
City acknowledges that in the electronic world the stamp is commonly reproduced on the plans. For
submittal, the City requires only one set to be wet signed (this set remains the City copy). This applies to all
registered engineers and architects who submit plans to the City.
Mr. Bowman disagreed with Mr. Shapiro's assertion that the Development Services Department staff was
discourteous. With regard to the example Mr. Shapiro provided that the staff treated a permit applicant who
came in to look at plans rudely, he assured all plans were public documents and open to review by anyone.
He acknowledged the plan reviewers may have the active plans in their possession and access may be
delayed. He provided several examples of unsolicited comment cards the City received regarding the
excellent service provided by staff. He read a card received today from residents thanking the Planning,
Building and Engineer Divisions for the timely, thorough and professional way they assisted with the
building permit process. The card was accompanied by a bouquet of flowers.
In response to Mr. Shapiro's comment that too much time /effort/energy was expended with no ultimate value
to the product, Mr. Bowman assured staff did what the code required; they did not have the ability to pick
and choose which code provisions to enforce or ignore. The Department is working on a substantial code
rewrite that will improve some of these code issues; others will require city policy decisions, deciding what
is important to regulate, and what is not. Others are beyond the Department's control such as State or
Federal requirements.
Linda Paralez, DeMarche Consulting Comments
• Website information is out of date
• City should join eGov Alliance
• Standardize practices
• Provide on -line permitting and permit status
Mr. Bowman responded belonging to eGov Alliance was very expensive, particularly their online permit
process. The City already provides significant on -line permit information, more than was provided by eGov
Alliance. Via PermitTracks, applicants or the public could find permit status for any permit. He agreed with
Ms. Paralez' comment that the Annual Report on Land Use Perinitting Timelines was out of date; pointing
out there was current information regarding the comprehensive plan, zoning, current issues and agenda
information available on the website. The City is testing on -line permit applications for minor building,
plumbing and mechanical permits. He agreed the City's website needed a complete overhaul to make it
more user friendly and intuitive.
Mr. Bowman recalled the City joined the Snohomish County Economic Development Council in 2002 to
look at a model permit system for Snohomish County but that work was not finalized. When land use
permits were analyzed during that process, Edmonds was well below other jurisdictions and their review of
planning discretionary land use permits always beat the 120 days deadline. He noted the online permit
tracking system provided the ability for permit applicants to access that information 24/7.
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Brian Goodnight Issues
• Lack of ability to ask simple questions.
• Last project had $30,000 dollars into it before setbacks were found to be wrong.
• Didn't know that the City has a pre - application process.
• Lack of information over the counter, specifically water line specifications.
• People at counter don't know information.
• Closed on Wednesdays
Mr. Bowman explained staff responds to questions all the time. In fact, Bruce Goodnight was in last Friday
morning to meet with Assistant Building Official Ann Bullis to go over some building questions. With
regard to the comment regarding lack of information over the counter, Mr. Bowman explained codes,
handouts and standard details were all available on line and at the Development Services Department. With
regard to Mr. Goodnight's last comment, Mr. Bowman explained the counter was closed on Wednesdays to
allow staff to focus on plan reviews. Mr. Bowman was uncertain about Mr. Goodnight's comment that he
was not aware of the pre - application process and displayed materials from a pre - application meeting held in
2002 with his brother, Brian Goodnight.
Bill. Wilson Comments
• The City required expensive and lengthy process in order to do improvements for a tenant space for
Community Solutions before they could get a business license when it was the same use (warehouse
and office).
Mr. Bowman responded by law the City was required to keep commercial and multi family building permits
for the life of the building plus 10 years. In this case, improvements were made to the building that were not
consistent with the approved permit; the biggest issue was a breach of the 2 -hour firewall to an unrated door.
He displayed a detailed chronology of events that began when Community Solutions applied for a permit on
July 12, 2005 and the Building Division notified them on July 19, 2005 that a change of use permit was
required. After several exchanges between the City and the Wilsons, City Fire Marshal met with Mr. Wilson
on site on September 5, 2006 to discuss the matter and recommended Mr. Wilson retain an architect to assist
him. On September 6, 2006, Mr. Wilson followed up with a letter that he had retained Tony Shapiro as his
architect and requested an extension of time to October 15, 2006 to submit plans. The request was granted
and plans were submitted on November 21, 2006. On December 7, 2006 Building and Fire approved plans
for issuance, inspections took place on March 21, 2007 (framing), July 10, 2007 (sheetrock) and July 18,
2007 (final occupancy) and a business license was issued to Community Solutions on July 19, 2007.
Donna Breske Comments
• Supports hiring outside consultant.
• The City has no staff that are experienced in utilizing the 1992 Department of Ecology Manual.
• Cited an example of a building on 76th Avenue where staff wanted the cumulative impervious
surface considered and did not consider the project as redevelopment which would not trigger the
requirement for detention.
Mr. Bowman responded while it was true that staff did not currently have a stormwater engineer on staff, the
City did retain Don Fiene, P.E., as its stormwater consulting engineer, who was familiar with the 1992 DOE
Storm Water Manual. The issue Ms. Breske raises fails to address the City's adopted stormwater policy and
she attempted to say it did not apply to projects with cumulative impervious surfaces over 5,000 square feet.
He displayed instructions from the stormwater handout that systems designed to accommodate over 5,000
square feet of impervious surface must be designed and stamped by a professional engineer.
Mark Loewen Comments
• He cited issues of miscommunication and misinformation.
• That he had to hire Donna Breske to write a letter to the City that he did not need her engineering.
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Due to the length of the building permit process he was now unable to obtain a construction loan.
He stated that a person could go into the building department on five occasions, ask the same
question and get five different answers.
Staff could not figure out where the north arrow was on the plans.
Mr. Bowman responded he was in awe that Mr. Loewen was unaware he would need a building permit for
improvements valued at $237,000. He also questioned why anyone would ask the same question of the
Building Department five times, noting it was unlikely he would speak to five different people because of
Edmonds' small staff.
Regarding hiring Ms. Breske to respond to the City, Mr. Bowman explained Mr. Loewen's geo -tech engineer
raised the issue of drainage due to slopes on the property. The City's engineering reviewer noted that and
asked that the issue be addressed. Ms. Breske responded and the City signed off the engineering review.
He reviewed a detailed chronology of events regarding Mr. Loewen's permit:
• City sent letter to Mr. Loewen on 5/14/07 stating the City had become aware that he had started a
remodel without a building permit. Requested a response by 6/15/07. No response was received.
• Building Official initiated code enforcement action on 6/20/07; permit application must be submitted
by 7/6/07.
• On 6/4/07 Mr. Loewen filed a Critical Areas Checklist with the Planning Division. The Critical
Areas assessment of the Loewen property was performed on 6/8/07 and determined that a Critical
Areas Study was required due to the presence of erosion and landslide hazard areas as well as
mapped fish and wildlife habitat conservation area along the eastern bounds of the parcel.
• On 6/21/07, Mr. Loewen filed a building permit application. He described the work as `remodeling a
day light rambler with garage addition with living space above. Permit for deck built without permit.
The application documents were missing minimum submittal information.
• On 7/25/07 Mr. Loewen supplemented the application with missing information and a plan review
was initiated by the Building, Engineering and Planning Divisions.
• Building, Engineering and Planning plan review comments were mailed to Mr. Loewen on 9/17/07,
9/6/07 and 9/17/07 respectively.
• The Building plan reviewer made the following notation regarding the north arrow, `Please add the
following information to the site plan. Label North arrow.' There were a total of twelve building
plan review comments. North arrows are required to be labeled.
• Mr. Loewen resubmitted plans on 3/13/08 (almost five months from the 9/17/07 plan review
comments).
• Building, Engineering and Planning approved the permit for issuance on 3/21/08, 4/2/08 and 4/1/08
respectively. Mr. Loewen was contacted on 4/2/08 that the permit was ready to be issued.
• Because this project was started prior to permit issuance the Building Official issued an additional
Order to Correct Violation Notice on 5/8/08 requiring the permit be issued no later than 5/23/08. On
5/14/08, Mr. Loewen contacted the City and informed Building staff of financing difficulties
preventing him from obtaining the building permit. The permit application was due to expire on
6/21/08 and Mr. Loewen was informed by the Development Services Technician that the permit
must be issued by this date.
• On 6/16/08 the permit (reference BLD20070652) was issued to Mr. Loewen. The job description
was changed by the plan reviewer to read, `demo existing carport, lower floor add 303 sf storage,
main floor add 921 sf 3 car garage, remodel master bath, remodel kitchen, add 360 sf nook and
laundry, add 184 sf porch, rebuilt existing 521 sf deck, upper floor add 1,128 sf 3 bedrooms, loft and
bath, the project value is $237,877.00. Mr. Loewen was assessed a violation fee of $1,691.00.
Roger Hertrich Comments
• Architects and builders are afraid to complain because they fear retaliation on their next project.
• Cost associated with continually extending projects due to inexperienced and ineffective staff.
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• Staff are inexperienced and inspectors have no proper credentials.
• Edmonds is the worst.
• Edmonds fails because of Development Services.
With regard to Mr. Hertrich's comment regarding retaliation, Mr. Bowman responded it simply takes too
much effort to retaliate and it was likely illegal. He has heard this charge for over 30 years but has yet to
have anyone prove such a charge. Regarding inexperienced and ineffective staff, he acknowledged the
Engineering Division had the most new staff members and did not always know answers off the top of their
heads. In order to provide accurate answers to the public some research and /or questioning of more
experienced staff members may be required. Codes, handouts and standard details are all available on line
and at the Development Services Department. The new Senior Building Inspector has 12 ICC certifications;
the previous inspector had 9. He pointed out delays during the plan review process were often a direct result
of the applicant not responding to plan review comments in their entirety. Requests for waiver or deviation
from the ECDC also lengthen the plan review process.
Steve Shelton. Comments
• Replaced a chain link fence with a wood fence on the corner of 4t'' Avenue North and Bell Street.
City posted a Stop Work Order.
• City required a critical areas analysis in order to replace the fence.
• Last year the garage doors were being replaced, the contractor was told they did not need a permit.
When contractor replaced rotted 2 x 4s, the project was red tagged and fined for not obtaining a
pen-nit.
Mr. Bowman responded Code Chapter 17.30 regulates permit requirements for fences. A fence permit is
required for fences greater than 3 feet in height which is also within 10 feet of any street right -of -way or
access easement or within 30 feet of a corner. Mr. Shelton has a corner lot, the proposed fence was 3 feet to
6 feet in height on the south property line along Bell Street, 3 feet in height along the west property line at
4th Avenue North with a 7'6" arbor at the sidewalk entrance to the property and a 6 foot fence at the
northeast corner of the property adjacent to the alley.
The City issued 27 fence permits in 2005, Town & Country was the contractor of record for two fence
permits including Mr. Shelton's permit. He provided a detailed chronology of events:
• Stop Work Order issued on 4/27/05 for installation of a fence without first obtaining a fence permit.
• Mr. Shelton came to the permit counter on 4/28/05 and filed the permit application
• Code Chapter 23.40.060 requires a critical areas assessment on all lots prior to issuance of building
permits that disturb the soil. Mr. Shelton submitted a Critical Areas Checklist form to the City
Planning Division on 4/28/05. On 5/3/05 the City Planner performed a site inspection and rendered a
decision of `waiver' meaning no critical areas were identified on site.
• On 5/6/05 the City Engineering Division performed a review of the fence proposal checking for
pedestrian and traffic sight distance hazards. A portion of the fence at the alley was required to be
altered to meet the proper site distance.
• Fence permit (reference 2005 -0370) was issued on 5/6/05.
• The owner was assessed a violation fee of $205.00.
With regard to the garage, Mr. Bowman agreed a permit was not required to replace garage doors and
provided the following chronology of events:
• Stop Work Order was issued on 10/25/07 because structural members were being replaced
(specifically the garage door header, posts supporting the header, and wall framing on the south side
of the garage).
• The contractor came to the permit counter on 10/26/07 and filed the permit application.
• The permit BLD20071079 was issued the same day, 10/26/07.
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The contractor called for inspection on 10/30/07 and exterior sheathing and framing were approved
by the City Inspector.
The owner was assessed a violation fee of $205.00 but the project was not delayed as the permit was
issued over the counter to the contractor.
Mr. Bowman concluded the Department was not overstaffed, in fact was currently short one Building Plans
Reviewer. A new experienced Planner and a new City Engineer have been hired and an offer has been made
to a Stormwater Manager. Edmonds staff is asked to do more here than in other cities. He was proud of the
volume of work that staff produced each day with very minimal errors. He assured staff was very helpful
and courteous and strive to give citizens the correct answer to their questions, as they understand time is
money and that issuance of building permits has an effect on the City's economic vitality.
Mr. Bowman commented he, like the Mayor, had an open door policy. His door was typically open so he
can listen to what goes on at the permit counter. As an example, over the past six months he has met with
several people to discuss their concerns to resolve violations, permit issues, code questions or interpretations
or just plain old disagreements. Sometimes he helps by investigating the permit process, but oftentimes "the
code is what the code is" and it must be enforced. He also monitors permit reviews and will step in when he
believes direction is needed.
He assured staff was constantly searching for ways to do things better. Significant improvements were made
when he first joined the City including remodeling the second floor to expand the permit counter, replacing a
non - functional permit system with a system that worked, and developing handouts of standard uniform
construction practices. He agreed the code rewrite needed to be finished, the City's website needed to be
updated and minor permits need to be available online and hoped to achieve these objectives by next year.
Councilmember Wambolt recognized the amount of work it took to respond to the comments that were
made, commenting it did not resolve the impasse between the Development Services Department and the
developers. Although he was not a proponent of hiring consultants, he commented it may be worthwhile in
this instance to do so to address the impasse. Mr. Bowman responded he did not believe there was an
impasse. He assured he was not opposed to the Council hiring a consultant to analyze the department.
Councilmember Wambolt answered a consultant would likely be beneficial, and he believed there was an
impasse between the Development Services Department and the developers and a referee was needed. Mr.
Bowman explained the City had limited resources and made a decision to staff lean. He suggested the
Council discuss a consultant during the 2009 -2010 budget process.
Councilmember Bernheim commented although he was not at the June 17 meeting, his review of the minutes
and his discussions with the developers revealed they offered to finance the review by a consultant. Another
important aspect was management; it was the Mayor's responsibility to administer the Building Department
so that the developers were happy. Mayor Haakenson responded it was not his responsibility to ensure
developers were happy. Mr. Bowman responded he was hired to oversee the Department; if the Council was
unhappy with his performance, the Mayor had the authority to fire him. Councilmember Bernheim clarified
management of the relationship between the City's customers and employees was the Mayor's responsibility;
it was not the Council's responsibility to ensure the Development Services Department was functioning
properly. If complaints were being raised to the point it had reached an impasse, he was amenable to
committing to a participatory exercise to determine if there was room for improvement. He invited
developers to rebut Mr. Bowman's comments.
Councilmember Wambolt agreed with Mr. Bowman's suggestion to consider a consultant in the 2009 -2010
budget process and did not want developers funding such a study. He recalled the developers offered to pay
to hire staff to expedite the process, not fund the consultant study. Mr. Bowman offered to develop a
decision package.
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Councilmember Wilson commented he was very impressed with Mr. Bowman's rebuttal, noting he has heard
complaints about the Development Services Department for years but was unsure of their validity. Mr.
Bowman's rebuttal was so succinct that it significantly undermined Mr. Shapiro, Mr. Goodnight's and
others' credibility in the future if they brought sincere, well intentioned complaints to the council. He noted
if the State required a wet stamp, developers must abide by that requirement. Mr. Goodnight's brother
utilized the City's pre - application process in 2002; Mr. Goodnight should have been aware of that when he
addressed the Council. Mr. Bowman explained his intent was to respond to each comment because if they
remained unanswered, they became the truth. Councilmember Wilson commented it was the Council's job
as well to ensure departments were functioning properly. He commented Mr. Bowman was as top notch an
employee as any he had worked with at any level of government, was proud to have him as an employee of
the City and he provided great service to Edmonds citizens. Mr. Bowman echoed that sentiment to his staff
who work hard and have the City's best interest at heart.
Mayor Haakenson acknowledged Councilmember Bemheim was not at last week's meeting to hear what was
said and it was difficult to hear on the video. He agreed it was his job to manage staff and Wednesday
morning he called a meeting with the entire second floor staff along with Mr. Bowman during their lunch
hour where they listened to all the comments that were made. He asked Mr. Bowman to investigate every
comment and report to the Council. He disagreed with Councilmember Wambolt that there was an impasse,
most of the issues were cut and dried. He agreed the 2009 -2010 budget process would be an appropriate
time to consider hiring a consultant.
Mayor Haakenson declared a brief recess.
Paine Field 8. ESTABLISH A $5,000 APPROPRIATION FOR POTENTIAL PAINE FIELD LEGAL AND
ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES.
Community Services /Economic Development Director Stephen Clifton explained in 2007 the Private
Enterprise Coalition announced they would raise and spend funds in an attempt to push commercial air
service at Paine Field. In response, the Mukilteo City Council approved the creation of a Paine Field
Emergency Reserve Fund in the amount of $250,000 to create a pool of resources for any legal or other costs
that were necessary to oppose commercial expansion of Paine Field. Recently representatives from Mukilteo
met with Mayor Haakenson and Council President Plunkett to ask the City Council to establish an
appropriation of funds, thus increasing the pool of financial resources. The proposed resolution was prepared
at the request of Council President Plunkett and identifies an amount of $5,000. He advised the funds would
come from the Council Contingency Fund.
Council President Pro Tem Dawson commented the $5,000 figure was arrived at in consultation with
Mukilteo who indicated $5,000 would be sufficient to share in the costs and allow sharing of information
between jurisdictions. Mayor Haakenson clarified Mr. Clifton and he selected that amount, Mukilteo did not
ask for a specific amount, it was primarily symbolic. Council President Pro Tem Dawson commented the
City's contribution was not only to increase the pool of funds but by contributing, the City could share in
information Mukilteo gathered via their more significant contribution.
Councilmember Wilson expressed concern with the proposed amount, recalling the Council passed a similar
resolution six months ago with no funding and envisioned a $5,000 contribution would have been more
appropriate at that time for the reasons Council President Pro Tem Dawson cited. He questioned whether
$5,000 was a strong enough symbolic gesture in light of the fact that there was now an application for
commercial air service at Paine Field. He suggested the Council may want to consider a larger contribution
such as $50,000, not monies placed in a separate fund but as a placeholder. Council President Pro Tem
Dawson pointed out there was not $50,000 in the Council Contingency Fund; there was only $22,000 after
the earlier contribution to the Chamber. She suggested the Council indicate that if this became a legal battle,
the City was not ruling out further allocations in the future if necessary. This appropriation would allow
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Mukilteo to share information with the City and establish that the City was committed to this effort. Mr.
Clifton commented the Council could consider a larger allocation during the 2009 -2010 budget process.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT PRO TEM DAWSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER
ORVIS, FOR APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NO. 1177. MOTION CARRIED (5 -1),
xes# 1177 COUNCILMEMBER BERNHEIM OPPOSED. The roved reads as follows:
Paine Field e resolution a pp
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF EDMONDS, WASHINGTON, OPPOSING
COMMERCIAL AIR PASSENGER AND OTHER INCOMPATIBLE AIR SERVICE AT PAIN FIELD
LOCATED WITHIN SNOHOMISH COUNTY, AND ESTABLISHING A $5,000 APPROPRIATION
FOR POTENTIAL LEGAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES
Unfunded
Priority 9. CITY OF EDMONDS UNFUNDED PRIORITY PROJECTS
Projects
Mr. Clifton recalled on May 27, 2008, at the request of Edmonds City Council, City staff presented
information on City of Edmonds and private party master planning options for the Downtown Master Plan
area which includes the Port of Edmonds Harbor Square, Antique Mall and Skipper properties. Additional
information included potential steps that would need to be taken should the City Council decide to purchase
all, or a portion of the Antique Mall or Skippers properties.
As part of the overall May 27, 2008 presentation, City staff requested the City Council consider how the
purchase of property might relate to funding other future priority needs within the City. Included in the May
27 City Council packet was a table containing a list of unfunded priority projects. He displayed a table of
unfunded projects, explaining that ongoing building maintenance and ongoing transportation improvements
were high priorities. In response to a citizen's reference to carpeting for the Council Chambers, he explained
that was not the type of ongoing building maintenance referred to by staff. The list contains large building
maintenance projects such as seismic upgrades to the Frances Anderson Center, electrical upgrades, Senior
Center Improvements, etc. Other than the first two items, the projects in the table have not been prioritized
by City administration. City staff asks that City Council work with City administration to prioritize these
items /projects in order to help structure an overall multi -year financing plan. Several projects need
additional review and input from the community and City consultants to determine more accurate cost
estimates. The primary purpose of providing this information was to give the City Council an overview of
the unfunded needs rather than precise cost estimates for each project. A couple of the projects do not have
projects descriptions as they were tied to non -city entities with specific plans yet to be defined. He noted the
Council packet also included brief narratives describing the projects and Department Directors were present
to answer any questions about the projects.
Councilmember Wambolt commented these were only building related capital projects, there were many
other unfunded projects. He recalled the recent transportation forum identified numerous projects including
sidewalks, traffic control and appropriately marked crosswalks. Mr. Clifton agreed, noting many of these
projects were in addition to projects identified in the Capital Improvement Program (CIP). Councilmember
Wambolt asked what project Ms. Petso was referring to. Public Works Director Noel Miller responded Ms.
Petso was referring to the Six Year CIP. He noted carpet was included in Fund H 6 Building Maintenance
fund, noting that was part of keeping a building serviceable for the user and protecting the capital asset.
Mr. Clifton reviewed the unfunded priority projects:
Project
Department
Estimated Cost
Possible Funding Sources
Current Dollars
Priority
Ongoing Building
Public Works
$200,000 /per year
Utility Tax Increase
High
Maintenance Projects
Ongoing Transportation
Public Works
$.5 to 1.0 Million per
Transportation Benefit
High
Improvements
year
District
Public Vote?
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4" Avenue Cultural
Parks / Public
$10 million
Various City funds and grants
Corridor
Works
Aquatic Center
Parks &
$10 to $30 million
Public Vote
Recreation
Art Center / Art Museum
Parks &
$5 million
Community partnerships
Recreation
Boys & Girls Club
Not a City Bldg
$5 million
Capital campaign
Building (School District
property)
Civic Playfield
Parks &
Unknown (current
Public Vote/ REST 1 / Grants
Acquisition (lease expires
Recreation
assessed value of $5.5
2021)
million)
Downtown Street
Public Works
$250,000
Utility Tax Increase
Lighting Improvements
Edmonds Library
Public Works and
Unknown
Public Vote
Parks &
Recreation
Fire Administration,
Fire Department
$1.1 million
Esperance Service Contract
Training Classroom,
+/-10%
Woodway Service Contract
Non - Burning Training
2015 Station 20 Debt Payoff
Facility
EMS Transport Fees
Various City Funds
Former Woodway H.S.
Parks &
$12 million
Regional Facility /Capital
(School Dist. Property)
Recreation
Campaign Partnerships /REET
Pla fields
2
Parks / Facilities
Parks & Public
$3 to 3.5 Million
No Identified Funding Source
Maintenance Building
Works
Not funded after 3
Public Vote
ears
Senior Center Building
Public Works
$4 to 10 Million
Public/Private Partnership?
G.O. Bond Lev
Van Meer Property
Fire Department
Subject to Negotiation
Esperance Service Contract
Woodway Service Contract
2015 Station 20 Debt Payoff
EMS Transport Fees
Various City Funds
Councilmember Wilson observed staff determined ongoing building maintenance projects and ongoing
transportation improvements were high priorities and asked how the other projects were prioritized. Mayor
Haakenson advised staff determined the first two were extremely high priorities and left prioritization of the
other items to the Council. Mr. Clifton invited the Council to request additional information on any of the
projects and offered to work with the Council on prioritizing the projects.
In light of the length of the list, the high priority of many of the projects and a public vote as a possible
funding source, Councilmember Wilson invited staff to describe how they might group projects and structure
a public vote. Mr. Clifton advised staff had prepared a preliminary list of projects that could be funded via a
Transportation. Benefit District. Councilmember Wilson commented on the adage if the voters were asked
for $5 twenty times, they were less likely to approve those requests than they were to approve a single $100
request. He preferred to combine projects into one public vote. Mr. Clifton advised all potential funding
sources were included on the list due to the Council's previous discussion regarding combining projects on a
ballot.
Council President Pro Tem Dawson found the list very helpful particularly as the Council considered the
Harbor Square, Antique Mall and Skippers properties, commenting it would also be helpful to provide the
Council a sense of the other county and state priorities such as Sound Transit 2. For example, the Snohomish
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County Council was considering a proposal by the Superior Court, Sheriff and Prosecuting Attorney to put a
measure on the ballot to fund a justice center in Snohomish County at a cost of more than $150 million. She
noted full agendas made it difficult for the Council to give these items the attention they deserved and
suggested scheduling a Saturday workshop to review the projects and their priority. She invited
Councilmembers to inform her of their vacation and weekend schedules and any preferences regarding a date
and she would schedule a workshop to discuss prioritization, financing options and how monies might be
leveraged. Councilmember Wambolt commented another option would be the fifth Tuesday in July.
Sound 10. CITY OF EDMONDS LETTER TO SOUND TRANSIT REGARDING PHASE 2
Transit
Phase 2
Community Services /Economic Development Director Stephen Clifton advised as a follow -up to a Sound
Transit Phase 2 public outreach effort, the Sound Transit (ST) Executive Board will be reviewing investment
options for ST2 later this month and early July. The Board's tentative schedule for review and possible
consideration is as follows:
• June 26 the Board will discuss feedback on public outreach efforts coupled with discussion of ST2
plan and possible board member amendments.
• July 10 the Board will act on proposed amendments and provide direction to ST staff to prepare ST2
plan, ballot resolutions and supporting document.
• July 24 the Board may adopt a plan and potential ballot resolutions.
In April of 2008, Mayor Haakenson sent a letter to Sound Transit Executive Board members Reardon,
Roberts and Dawson expressing concerns about Sound Transit's proposed draft Phase 2 System -wide Service
Development Plan. The purpose of the letter was to reiterate these concerns in addition to expressing the
City's positions on various issues prior to the Sound Transit Board taking action at any of the above
meetings. Specific concerns highlighted, or positions expressed within the letter include support for
extending light rail into Snohomish County, locating a Sound Transit light rail station near Mountlake
Terrace along Interstate 5, and including funding for Sound Transit Edmonds Commuter Rail Station as part
of Sound Transit Phase 2. The letter also contains statements expressing a lack of support for operating Bus
Rapid Transit in lieu of light rail along the Interstate 5 corridor.
Sound Transit will be rendering decisions soon on a Phase 2 package of investments and related options, in
addition to setting a timeframe regarding when a Phase 2 package should be placed on a ballot. As such, it is
important for all effected communities to state their position prior to the Sound Transit Executive Board
finalizing a Phase 2 package. He noted the Council packet also included a June 16, 2008 letter from the City
of Mountlake Terrace expressing positions similar to the City of Edmonds.
Council President Pro Tern Dawson explained these concerns were shared by the three Snohomish County
Sound Transit Board members. She recently received a summary of the comments gathered via the public
comment process, noting the public comments provided at the Lynnwood and Everett open houses and via
the internet mirrored the concerns raised in the letter Mayor Haakenson drafted to the Sound Transit Board,
emphasizing the desire for light rail to Snohomish County in the next phase. She explained there three plans
out for public comment, the 20 year plan that was part of Prop I last year, and two smaller 12 -year packages.
The Board has not made a determination whether to pursue a vote in 2008 or what package they would select
if they were to go out for a vote in 2008. She noted the possible ballot measure would not be limited to these
three packages; the Board's decision was to take public comment on these three packages and craft
something in between. She noted the SeaShore Transportation Forum submitted a letter yesterday that was
similar to the proposed letter, expressing a desire for light rail reaching Snohomish County.
Councilmember Bernheim inquired about the balance between the regional need for a concentrated system of
some kind versus a program that would reach all users including Snohomish County. He was uncertain
whether it was better to work toward a smaller program that would be built sooner that would relieve
greenhouse gas emissions and get cars off the road that may not necessarily serve Snohomish County
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residents rather than a larger project that would impact Snohomish County but may be too expensive to be
approved. Council President Pro Tern Dawson commented the Board has focused on the 5 /1 0th package at a
12 year level; there was little difference in the amount of dollars raised on an annual basis or taxes collected,
the difference was the length of time it would take. She noted a 20 -year plan did not take longer to build, it
was built over a longer period of time. She clarified a 20 -year package did not mean nothing happened for
20 years, 20 years was when everything in the package would be completed. The same programs could be
contained in a 12 -year package, but it would conclude in 12 years rather than continuing with additional
projects. She noted the first step was to determine what the voters had a tolerance for and what
improvements they wanted. She noted early comments from Snohomish County indicated they did not see
the benefit of the programs in the 12 -year package to Snohomish County. The focus of the 12 -year plans is
on Bus Rapid Transit along I -5 which she noted as lanes became more congested, may /may not provide a
transportation solution for Snohomish County. She acknowledged it was uncertain what the HOV lanes
would look like in the future and without assurance that traffic would move fluidly in HOV lanes, it was
difficult to provide reliable transit service along the I -5 corridor. She noted a slightly longer plan may be
able to provide light rail to Snohomish County. She concluded the goal was to achieve a balance between
real transportation solutions for all the subareas, not just for three of the four subareas.
Councilmember Bernheim expressed support for light rail at Northgate and asked what the 20 -year plan
would provide. Council President Pro Tern Dawson commented in the 20 -year plan proposed last year, light
rail reached Ash Way. She noted the most expensive portion of light rail on I -5 was the portion that reached
Northgate; it was significantly less expensive further north due to the change in topography. The Board was
being asked to consider an option that would extend light rail into Snohomish County so that Snohomish.
County, like the other subareas, had some reasonable choices beyond buses on I -5. She noted Pierce County
had a more realistic situation with the Sounder option because more trips were possible; the north line was
maxed out this fall at four trips per day. Therefore without light rail, Snohomish County was limited to buses
on I -5, the most congested and most highly traveled corridor in the region and as well as the area with the
greatest demand for light rail and the least likelihood of overcoming transportation challenges without light
rail. She summarized the letter stated for Snohomish County residents, particularly south Snohomish
County, there was something better than a 12 -year plan that did not include a light rail component for
Snohomish County.
COUNCILMEMBER ORVIS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILSON, TO
AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO SIGN THE ATTACHED JUNE
24, 2008 LETTER TO THE SOUND TRANSIT EXECUTIVE BOARD. MOTION CARRIED
UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILMEMBER ORVIS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WAMBOLT, TO
EXTEND THE MEETING UNTIL 11:00 P.M. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Unopened 11. PROPOSED RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE VACATION OF THE UNOPENED ALLEY RIGHT -
Alley Right- OF -WAY LOCATED BETWEEN 8TH AVENUE NORTH AND 9TH AVENUE NORTH, NORTH OF
of-Way DALEY STREET.
Between 8th
Ave N & 9th
Ave N Development Services Director Duane Bowman explained this was an unopened alley 7.5 feet in width that
was dedicated as part of the original plat of the City. He noted alleys were typically 16 feet in width; he
assumed it was anticipated the unplatted area to the north would dedicate the other half of the alley which did
not occur. The City has no improvements in the alley. The residents asked to have the alley right -of -way
vacated and requested the City initiate that action. The proposed resolution sets July 22 as the date for the
required public hearing.
Councilmember Wambolt commented he looked at the property, finding it useless and very steep.
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Councilmember Bernheim asked which residents requested the vacation, noting there were 12 adjacent
properties. Mr. Bowman answered nearly all the property owners to the south as the property came from
their properties as part of the original plat of Edmonds and the vacated right -of -way would be returned to
those parcels. Mayor Haakenson advised the Council was scheduling the public hearing to hear from the
property owners. Several property owners met with Councilmembers Wambolt and Olson and requested the
City initiate the vacation. Mr. Bowman explained there were two ways to initiate a vacation, either by
petition or the Council passes a resolution initiating the vacation.
Councilmember Bernheim asked how many people asked to have the property vacated. Mr. Bowman stated
five property owners on the south side requested the vacation. He noted these property owners were aware
there were issues to be resolved with regard to access, etc. particularly at the east end of the alley.
Councilmember Bernheim asked the disadvantage of the City not vacating the property. Mr. Bowman
answered the City would continue to have an unopened 7.5 foot wide right -of -way that was of no use to the
City due to the steep grade in the center. Councilmember Olson commented the City took property in the
1890s with the intent of installing an alley which never happened. Councilmember Wambolt pointed out
Daley did not go through from 8th to 9th. City Attorney Bio Park commented vacating the property would
return it to the tax rolls and would eliminate any liability associated with injury on the property due to the
City's negligence.
COUNCILMEMBER WAMBOLT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OLSON, TO
Res# l 178 APPROVE THE RESOLUTION NO. 1178. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. The resolution
Se,
Hearing approved reads as follows:
re: Vacate
nopened
Public Alley A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EDMONDS, WASHINGTON,
INITIATING REVIEW OF VACATION OF A PORTION OF AN UNOPENED PUBLIC ALLEY
LYING BETWEEN 8TH AVENUE NORTH AND 9TH AVENUE NORTH, PARALLEL TO AND
NORTH OF DALEY STREET, AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR JULY 22, 2008.
12. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON 2008 PLANNING INITIATIVES ADDRESSING (1)
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUSTAINABILITY ELEMENT AND (2) FORM -BASED ZONING
Comprehcn-
s,�e Ptan Comprehensive Plan Sustainability Element
snstainabit�ty Plannin g Manager explained M Rob Ch lained ff had been working ith the Mayor's Climate Committee on the
Element ave ex g a y
development of a new Comprehensive Plan element and wanted to ensure they were on the right track. Due
to the work being done by the Climate Committee and recent press regarding climate change, it was
appropriate to include a "Community Sustainability Element" in the City's Comprehensive Plan that would
capture many of the issues such as long term viability, economics, character of the City, GMA, etc. He
viewed the Sustainability Element as the glue that tied many aspects of the Comprehensive Plan together.
He explained the current Comprehensive Plan included elements regarding Land Use, Community Culture &
Urban Design, Utility, Capital Facilities, Housing, Transportation and Parks, Recreation & Open Space. He
noted most were mandatory elements, others such as the Community Culture & Urban Design element were
included due to the importance of that issue to the City. He noted there was a great deal of discussion
regarding climate change by the legislature and they were on the verge of mandating a new element. Thus
the new Sustainability Element could be viewed as getting out in front before it was mandated by the State
and it also made sense because the City has joined several significant climate change initiatives. He
anticipated the Sustainability Element would contain subsections regarding Climate Change, Environmental
Quality and Community Health. The Climate Change subsection would identify ways to reduce emissions
and the impact on the environment and determine the City's future risk with regard to climate change such as
how City operations would be impacted and what natural hazards were likely to occur. This would also
include monitoring programs to track change. The Environmental Quality subsection would consolidate
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environmental policies throughout the Comprehensive Plan as well as gather the critical area and shoreline
policies in one place.
The Community Health subsection would promote bikeway and walkways, getting people active in the
community, economic opportunity, housing, etc. He clarified the intent would not be to repeat housing
polices contained in the Housing Element but show how housing was related to economy, the health of the
community, etc. Other concepts could be locally based food sources such as Farmer's Markets and the tie to
economics and home -grown arts, character of the community /lack of authenticity in large businesses, etc.
Council President Pro Tern Dawson asked how the Council could be involved in this process and what was
the plan to bring the element back to the Council for input. Mr. Chave answered staff was working with the
Climate Committee on this project and suggested the Council may want to schedule a work session with the
members of the Climate Committee. Council President Pro Tern Dawson pointed out Councilmember Orvis,
who serves on the Snohomish County Health District Board, may have some insight into the Community
Health subsection. She spoke in favor of involving the Council early in the process, suggesting the Council
schedule a meeting with the Climate Committee on a fifth Tuesday.
Councilmember Wilson echoed Council President Pro Tern Dawson's comments and wanted to ensure the
Council was involved, offering the Community Services/Development Services Committee as a possible
venue. He noted the Council had already approved environmental principles and values such as regarding
carbon neutrality. He advised the Cascade Land Conservancy would be making a report to the Council next
week; he had encouraged them to develop a suite of services they could provide to the City. With regard to
land use, he recalled the Community Services /Development Services Committee has discussed creating
zones where builders were provided incentives for environmentally sensitive development. He pointed out
Lake Forest Park had an Environmental Quality Committee and envisioned the City could form a similar
committee or reformulate the Climate Committee. With regard to the Community Health subsection, he
pointed out the importance of addressing sidewalks as well as childhood obesity and integrating development
with healthcare providers.
Form Based Form Based Zoning
oning Mr. Chave explained form -based zoning was a planning buzz word that surfaced in recent years as a result of
the new urbanism movement. He displayed a comparison of traditional versus form -based zoning,
explaining form -based zoning was a reaction to traditional zoning which described what a jurisdiction did not
want and provided a list of allowed uses, uses that were not allowed, and restrictions on properties. The
intent of the form -based approach was to be more illustrative, provide a guide /direction rather than a list of
restrictions and attempt to provide a picture of the result. The difficulty with the traditionally Euclidian
approach was the result was very unpredictable. In recent years, staff had begun to integrate form -based
ideas into the code in a hybrid approach.
He pointed out there was no impetus to change the code if the development that occurred was what the City
wanted; however, in areas where the result was not what the City wanted or areas where change was
expected to occur, form -based zoning could be very beneficial by providing more specific direction with
regard to what was hoped could be achieved in that area. An example would be the downtown zones and on
Hwy. 99 where there were design standards. He displayed examples of graphics, illustrations and tables that
were included in form -based codes. He explained one approach for the Title 16 rewrite was to include as
many tables and graphics as possible. The intent was not to change the rules and regulations for the zones
but make the code easier to understand. He noted areas where additional design standards were desired
would require a special process. He commented the code rewrite would also identify zones where the form -
based approach would be important such as Westgate where the new PCC may provide an opportunity to
promote a green zone as well as promote Westgate as a key neighborhood center.
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Mr. Chave explained the benefits of a hybrid approach were it focused on regulating what was important and
presented information in a simple and understandable way via graphics and illustrations, provided
consistency across zoning classifications, did not discard what worked but focused on areas where change
was desired or where change was an issue such as downtown and Hwy. 99.
Councilmember Wilson asked whether form -based zoning limited architectural creativity. Mr. Chave
answered it was only done to the extent the City knew what it wanted; if what they wanted was unknown, it
should not be prescribed. For example, downtown items such as door shapes, the number of windows, etc.
was not prescribed, only very general parameters were prescribed. He clarified form -based zoning could be
specific or general, the goal was to identify what was important and if it was important and the City knew
what it wanted, it should be included in the code.
Councilmember Wilson asked whether there were reasons not to use form -based zoning. Mr. Chave
answered if the Council was happy with the existing code and development that was occurring, there was no
need to do anything different. He commented downtown was a symptom that this could be done better.
Areas where change was happening the most were the areas to look first and may include meetings with the
neighborhood to determine whether they were interested in participating in a form -based code for that area.
He concluded form -based zoning could be very specific to a neighborhood. He anticipated even with form -
based zoning, most of the development in neighborhoods would be the same, however, in an area such as
Hwy. 99 where transition would occur, form may be more important than the exact mix of uses.
13. COUNCIL REPORTS ON OUTSIDE COMMITTEE /BOARD MEETINGS
snoPac and Council President Pro Tem Dawson reported the E911 Manager for Snohomish County has tendered her
snoCom I resignation, the SnoPac Director plans to resign and the SnoCom Director has indicated he plans to resign
soon. Therefore a group within emergency dispatch in Snohomish. County is meeting to discuss the public
safety needs of Snohomish County as it was "easier to reshuffle the deck if the players were not necessarily
in place."
Tort Councilmember Wambolt reported at their June 9 meeting, the Port Commissioners were provided a
Commission presentation on the new Yacht Club, a 12,000 square foot building located in the parking area north of the
current Port offices, half of which will be leased to a local company for office space. There will not be a
restaurant in the building. They intend to begin construction by the end of 2008 and occupy the building in
2009. The Port also approved a new service, Pump Me Out, for pumping out marine holding tanks. And
despite the weather, the Waterfront Festival was a big success.
Boa ra of Councilmember Orvis reported the Snohomish County Board of Health encouraged anyone injured by a bat
xeatdr I to capture the bat to allow it to be tested for rabies. He reported on a presentation given to the Board
regarding septic systems and how they work. The Health Board is responsible for inspecting all the septic
systems in the County and made the data available online via a system with the acronym DAVE. He
encouraged anyone purchasing property in Snohomish County to access the system to determine whether
there was a septic system on their property.
rake Councilmember Wilson reported the Interlocal Agreement with Lake Ballinger would be coming to the
Wallin Ter Council soon. There were six signatories to the Interlocal Agreement; Lynnwood and Lake Forest Park
passed the Interlocal Agreement, Mountlake Terrace planned to pass it next week, and Shoreline and
Snohomish County were in the process of passing the Interlocal Agreement.
14. MAYOR'S COMMENTS
Mayor Haakenson had no report.
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15. COUNCIL COMMENTS
Council President Pro Tem Dawson reported she met with the Snohomish County Council Chair and Vice
Chair who asked her to relay that the County Council was moving forward with the Interlocal Agreement;
they learned they cannot enact a resolution but must pass an ordinance which requires a public hearing.
Farmers Councilmember Wambolt relayed citizens' questions concerning why the Farmer's Market was smaller this
arket year. Mayor Haakenson advised the large Farmers Market will begin in July and continue through
September; a smaller market, the Garden Market, operates in the spring.
Lake Councilmember Wilson reported Lake Ballinger flooded 3 weeks ago when it rained 4 inches in 24 hours.
Ballinger Next, he inquired about a proposed land use sign posted on the Skippers site. Mr. Chave advised the
Skippers I property owner plans to demolish the building and convert the site into a parking lot. Councilmember
Site Wilson asked what implications if any that had on the master plan process or future contract rezone. Mr.
Chave answered the property owner was interested in a temporary parking lot, the reason a Conditional Use
Permit was required, which allowed a 1 -2 year duration. He assumed after that time period they would
pursue something else. Councilmember Wilson assumed Mr. Gregg was not putting up a building this month
or this year. Mr. Chave answered it would depend entirely on the private lease agreement which the City
was not privy to.
16. ADJOURN
With no further business, the Council meeting was adjourned at 10:54 p.m.
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