09/04/2007 City CouncilSeptember 4, 2007
The Edmonds City Council meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Pro Tern Olson in the
Council Chambers, 250 5th Avenue North, Edmonds. The meeting was opened with the flag salute.
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Peggy Pritchard Olson, Mayor Pro Tern
Ron Wambolt, Council President Pro Tem
Michael Plunkett, Councilmember
Richard Marin, Councilmember
Mauni Moore, Councilmember
Deanna Dawson, Councilmember
Dave Orvis, Councilmember
ELECTED OFFICIALS ABSENT
Gary Haakenson, Mayor
ALSO PRESENT
Hilary Scheibert, Student Representative
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
STAFF PRESENT
Al Compaan, Acting Police Chief
Duane Bowman, Development Services Director
Brian McIntosh, Parks & Recreation Director
Noel Miller, Public Works Director
Rob Chave, Planning Manager
Dave Gebert, City Engineer
Stephen Koho, Treatment Plant Manager
Gina Coccia, Planner
Zach Lell, City Attorney
Sandy Chase, City Clerk
Jana Spellman, Senior Executive Council Asst.
Jeannie Dines, Recorder
COUNCILMEMBER MARIN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, TO
APPROVE THE AGENDA IN CONTENT AND ORDER. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
COUNCILMEMBER MARIN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WAMBOLT, TO
APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. The agenda items
Roll Call approved are as follows:
A. ROLL CALL
Approve
8/28/07 B. APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF AUGUST 28, 2007.
Minutes
Approve Claim C. APPROVAL OF CLAIM CHECKS #98630 THROUGH #98782 FOR AUGUST 30, 2007 IN
Checks THE AMOUNT OF $662,225.46.
Comprehensive D. AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE FOR STATEMENTS OF QUALIFICATIONS
Transportation FROM CONSULTANTS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN
Plan Update UPDATE.
76th Ave. w/ 75th Pl. W E. AUTHORIZATION FOR MAYOR TO SIGN ADDENDUM NO. 1 TO THE
Walkway and PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH GRAY AND OSBORNE, INC. FOR
162nd St. SW THE 76TH AVENUE WEST/75TH PLACE WEST WALKWAY AND 162ND STREET SW
Park PARK PROJECTS.
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Woodway— F. AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR TO SIGN A SECOND ADDENDUM TO THE
Vehicle INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE SERVICES BETWEEN
Maintenance
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Installation at G. REPORT ON BIDS OPENED ON AUGUST 28, 2007 FOR THE MCC FEEDER
wwzP INSTALLATION AT THE WWTP AND AWARD TO EWING ELECTRIC, INC. FOR
THE AMOUNT OF $30,582, INCLUDING SALES TAX.
New student Representative 3. INTRODUCTION OF STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE HILARY SCHEIBERT FROM EDMONDS
WOODWAY HIGH SCHOOL,
Mayor Pro Tem Olson introduced Student Representative Hilary Scheibert, a senior at Edmonds-
Woodway High School and briefly described her interests and activities. Student Representative
Seheibert expressed her appreciation for the opportunity to serve as Student Representative.
Councilmember Dawson suggested delaying Agenda Item 4 until Caldie Rogers, President, Greater
Marysville Tulalip Chamber of Commerce, arrived.
Vacate Portion 5. RECONSIDERATION: JULY 17, 2007 PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE PROPOSED
of Right -of- VACATION OF A PORTION OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY ADJACENT TO 17008 - 77TH
Way at 17008 77th Pl. W PLACE WEST, EDMONDS.
City Attorney Zaeh Lell explained this was a reconsideration of a matter previously before the Council.
The key issue for the Council was acceptance of the appraisal the petitioner previously offered with
regard to the proposed right-of-way vacation. He explained the legal standards with regard to the
compensation for a street vacation were flexible other than State Statute and the City's code established a
limit on the compensation the City could require: one-half the appraised value of the vacated right-of-
way. He advised the Council could direct the staff to obtain its own appraisal or direct the petitioner to
obtain a new appraisal. Although not technically a quasi judicial matter, but because it was a contested
proceeding, out of an abundance of caution Mr. Lell recommended Councilmembers disclose any ex parte
communications with the petitioner or any interested party in this proceeding.
Council President Pro Tem Wambolt read a letter from Nancy Monson, the property owner across the
street from the subject property, into the record. The letter stated her opposition to the proposed vacation
of the right-of-way, citing neighborhood opposition to the project due to the density and elimination of
nearly all trees and natural growth in the area. Her letter pointed out the right-of-way preserved some
green space and the owners who recently purchased the property did so with full knowledge of the right-
of-way and setback requirements and she did not support waiving those requirements. She was in favor
of preserving the character of the neighborhood and preserving green space. She also objected to the
$1,680 proposed in compensation to the City for 560 square feet of right-of-way as $3.00/square foot, was
considerably less than the assessed values in the neighborhood. Ms. Monson recommended the proposed
right-of-way vacation not be approved.
Councilmember Plunkett asked why Councilmembers needed to make disclosures if this was a legislative
versus a quasi judicial matter. Mr. Lell agreed with the characterization of this matter as legislative rather
than quasi judicial, acknowledging the disclosure requirement legally applied only to quasi judicial
matters. However, as this was a contested proceeding, he advised Council out of an abundance of caution.
to make disclosures. He stated that any failure to make a disclosure was unlikely to prejudge the matter.
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Councilmember Plunkett advised he received the letter from Ms. Monson as well as had a long discussion
with her in which she described why the Council should not approve the right-of-way vacation, similar to
the description in her letter.
Council President Pro Tern Wambolt advised he also had a discussion with Ms. Monson.
Councilmember Dawson recalled Council initially voted to approve the vacation and Council President
Pro Tern Wambolt later requested reconsideration which the Council agreed to in order to have some
additional questions answered. She recalled one of the issues raised previously was the code did not
describe the appraisal methodology that should be used. Because the cost of another appraisal would be
similar to any additional amount the City would acquire via a higher property value, the Council preferred
to add language to the code regarding the appropriate methodology. She asked if that had been done and
how discrepancies regarding the appropriate appraisal methodology would be avoided in the future.
Planning Manager Rob Chave advised the code currently specified the type of appraiser who must
conduct the appraisal but did not identify a method; it was presumed an acceptable method would be
utilized. He responded to an earlier Council question regarding how the method for determining value via
an appraisal was added to the code, explaining prior to 1993, the method for determining value was based
on assessed value. The code was changed in 1993 to require an appraisal because assessed value was not
necessarily related to the property value as assessments were not done on a regular basis and were
typically triggered by a sale. Assessments were now done on a regular basis and more accurately
reflected the property value. He suggested rather than mandating an appraisal methodology, returning to
the assessed value basis for determining property value. He noted a benefit of using assessed value would
be that no one would incur the cost of an appraisal. He planned to pursue this suggestion with the
Assessor's Office and the Community Services/Development Services Committee.
Councilmember Dawson asked whether staff had any knowledge of the assessed value of this property.
Mr. Chave answered he did not. He recalled the appraisal report included assessed values for comparable
properties which ranged from $26 to $34/square foot. He noted it may be difficult to determine the
assessed value of this property as it was recently constructed.
Councilmember Dawson asked the affect on the property owner if the Council did not vacate the property
or if the Council determined a higher value for the property. Mr. Chave commented whether the assessed
value or appraised value were used, it was only a starting point for determining the value of the vacation.
He referred to examples in the packet. In this instance denying or delaying the vacation would have
significant impacts on the applicant because something that was approved to be built but changed in the
field did not comply with the code and unless resolved, the property owner would be required to remove
the portion of the building that did not meet the code. He commented a delay in anticipation of a change
in the code language was not advisable as any change would require review by the Planning Board, which
was potentially a lengthy proceeding.
Councilmember Dawson asked if staff had conversation with the property owner regarding whether they
would be willing to pay a higher amount. Mr. Chave answered no. Councilmember Dawson
recommended the Council determine whether they planned to vacate the property and if they wanted to
require a higher amount, offer the property owners an option such as the assessed value of comparable
properties of $26/square foot. Mr. Chave agreed that was a possible option. He did not recommend
seeking another appraisal as the Council knew enough about the property's potential value to establish a
value.
Councilmember Dawson observed there was sufficient basis in the record to utilize half of the low end of
the reasonable value of the property. Mr. Chave agreed.
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Council President Pro Tern Wambolt noted the current Snohomish County assessed value of the land was
$300,000 for 4,792 square feet or $62.60/square foot. Half of that would be $31.30/square foot or
$1.6,000. He recalled one of the reasons the applicants wanted the vacation was to build a deck. Mr.
Chave was uncertain, recalling there was a problem with a chimney that was later converted to usable
space.
Councilmember Moore recalled City Attorney Scott Snyder informed Council they first must make a
finding that the vacation was in the public's interest. Mr. Lell agreed that was inherent in any street
vacation procedure; the Council was prohibited from vacating any publicly owned right-of-way unless
there was a public purpose underlying the decision. Councilmember Moore asked whether it must be
beneficial to the general public. Mr. Lell answered the Council had significant discretion; the definition
of public interest or public purpose was broad enough to include whatever compensation the Council
required, returning the property to the tax rolls, or eliminating any future City maintenance responsibility.
He summarized it did not require that every member of the public necessarily benefited; only that the
Council determined there was a public benefit.
Councilmember Moore asked whether the City did any maintenance on this property. Mr. Chave
answered he did not believe so, noting it was not paved or in any active use. Councilmember Moore
referred to two on -street parking spaces in the right-of-way and staff s indication they were not needed.
Mr. Chave commented that referred to the street end, not the area to be vacated.
COUNCILMEMBER WAMBOLT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, TO
DENY THE REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
Council President Pro Tern Wambolt recalled when the Council last discussed this vacation, he was not
satisfied with the value that had been determined. After reviewing the letter from Ms. Monson, he
realized he had not examined closely enough whether the right-of-way should be vacated. He looked at
the property over the weekend and observed there were two parking spaces that were being used on a
Sunday afternoon. He commented there was no other space in this area for parking; one driveway did not
appear to be able to accommodate the resident's vehicle due to the steepness of the grade. He noted there
was also very little open space and the vacation of the right-of-way would eliminate a large percentage of
the remaining open space. He found it was not in the public best interest to vacate this property.
Councilmember Plunkett noted he raised the issue of reconsideration. He pointed out the area proposed
to be vacated was not open space; the PRD already had open space and this land was owned by the City
and was not part of their open space. The $62/square foot value was for improved land; this right-of-way
was unimproved. For unimproved land, the assessed value was $29.76/square foot. He noted the
assessed value of land on property on Talbot Road was $44.82/square foot. Staff believes the value is $26
- $32/square foot. He explained the assessed value of unimproved land of approximately $30/square foot
equates to a market value for the vacation square footage of approximately $16,000. As the property is an
economic remainder, its value was less than unimproved land, bringing the value down to $8,000. Thus
the Council could determine a value of $1,500 to $3,000 appropriate and had in the past accepted $1,400 -
$1,600 as payment for vacations of property worth $2,000 - $4,000. Based on his review, he found
$1,400 acceptable and comparable to Council precedent in past vacations.
Councilmember Marin advised he would vote against the motion. When the Council last deliberated, he
voted against the motion as a protest vote, finding the property owner acted in good faith to seek an
appraisal. He recommended proceeding with the value determined via the appraisal.
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Councilmember Dawson agreed with Councilmember Marin and expressed her appreciation for
Councilmember Plunkett's comments that established a basis for the property's value. She supported
adopting the ordinance as previously drafted with compensation of $1400.
COUNCILMEMBER MOORE WITHDREW HER SECOND AND THE MOTION DIED FOR
LACK OF A SECOND.
Councilmember Moore noted Councilmember Plunkett's comments clarified the public benefit and the
Council precedent.
COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MARIN, FOR
APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NO. 3662. MOTION CARRIED (6-1), COUNCIL PRESIDENT
Ord# 3662
PRO TEM WAMBOLT OPPOSED. The ordinance approved is as follows:
Vacate Portion
of Right -of-
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF EDMONDS, WASHINGTON, VACATING CERTAIN
Way of 17008
UNOPENED STREET RIGHT OF WAY OF 77TH PLACE WEST LOCATED ADJACENT TO
77th Pl. w
17008 - 77TH PLACE WEST AS DESCRIBED HEREIN; ESTABLISHING THE TERMS OF
VACATION, AND FIXING A TIME WHEN THE SAME SHALL BECOME EFFECTIVE.
Closed Record
se back 6. CLOSED RECORD APPEAL OF THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DENIAL OF A SIDE YARD
Variance at SETBACK VARIANCE AT 18600 SOUND VIEW PL. APPELLANT AND APPLICANT: DR.
18600 Sound RAYMOND BOGAERT (FILE NOS. V-2006-102 & AP-2007-4
View Pl.
(Bogaert)
City Attorney Zach Lell recommended establishing an oral argument schedule that includes an order of
presentation for speakers and time limits. He recommended based on past practice the order of
presentation be staff, a 10-minute presentation by the appellant who is also the applicant, and three
minutes for each party of record, followed by rebuttal by the appellant if they reserved any time. As this
was a quasi judicial matter and the Council was governed by the Appearance of Fairness Doctrine, he
recommended the Council disclose any ex parte communications as well as state for the record they had
not prejudged the issue or were otherwise biased.
Mayor Pro Tem Olson, Councilmembers Marin, Moore, Orvis, and Dawson and Council President Pro
Tem Wambolt stated they had no ex parte communication and were not biased in any way.
Councilmember Plunkett advised he had many communications with Vicki Haynes and Paul Lippert but
not in regard to this matter.
Mr. Lell advised as this was a closed record proceeding, the information provided to the Council must be
limited to facts in the record contained in the Council packet. To the extent any party may attempt to
interject new, factual testimony, he recommended the Council establish a rule under which any party
wishing to object to information must do so by the end of the proceeding or the objection would be
waived. Mayor Pro Tem Olson agreed.
Planner Gina Coccia displayed a vicinity map and identified the property at 18600 Sound View Place.
She relayed staff s recommendation that the Council uphold the Hearing Examiner's decision to deny the
variance. She summarized the applicant, Dr. Bogaert, applied for a variance to reduce the required 10-
foot side setback on the north and south property lines to 5 or 8 feet. She clarified the original request
was for a 5-foot setback on the north and south property lines and the revised request was for an 8-foot
setback on the south property line for the house, 8-foot setback on the north for the house and a 5-foot
setback on the north property line for the new, detached 3-car garage. She advised eaves were permitted
in the setback area; the applicant requested the eaves be allowed to project into the setback.
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Ms. Coccia referred to the staff report dated September 15, 2006 that contained staff s recommendation to
deny the original variance application for the 5-foot setback. At the applicant's request, the hearing was
continued to allow them to work with the neighbors on a solution that would adequately address their
concerns. The applicant revised their application as described above and the Hearing Examiner's
decision to deny the variance was based on the revised proposal.
Councilmember Orvis asked the width of the lot. Ms. Coccia answered it was 50 feet wide with a 10-foot
setback on each side, leaving a buildable width of 30 feet. Councilmember Orvis asked the buildable
square footage of the lot without the variance. Ms. Coccia displayed a drawing provided as an attachment
to the July 2007 staff report that identified maximum lot coverage and a building footprint. She advised
the lot was over 15,000 square feet and over 300 feet deep but only 50 feet wide. She acknowledged the
property owner could construct a narrow, long house without a variance. She noted the buildable
footprint identified on the drawing was to illustrate their ability to build a long, narrow house.
Councilmember Orvis noted the drawing identified the buildable footprint as 5,191 square feet.
Applicant/Appellant
Chris Thayer, counsel for the applicant, Raymond Bogaert, asked to reserve 3 minutes for rebuttal.
He explained this was a non -conforming lot with dimensions of 50 x 300 feet, zoned RS-12 which
required 10-foot side setbacks, resulting in a 30-foot wide buildable lot. As the drawing illustrated, the
buildable footprint would accommodate a long, skinny, tall house. He explained the existing structure
encroached on the setback as the structure predates incorporation into Edmonds. The proposed structure
seeks a 2-foot setback variance on the north and south boundaries and 5-foot setback variance for the area
of the garage. He pointed out the structures on the north and south and the existing structure on the
Bogaert property currently encroach into the setbacks; the amount of the encroachments were described in
his application. He summarized the net linear feet of variance sought for the new construction was
substantially similar to the current encroachment by the existing structure although the depth of the
encroachment into the setback was less.
He recalled the majority of the objections voiced at the Hearing Examiner Meeting were that the proposed
house would be located substantially west of the existing structure. He explained the existing structure
was located far east on the narrow property and the current view from the house is a long narrow tract of
land before the water; the neighbors' houses to the north and south were located closer to the water which
the Bogaerts also wished to do as well as minimize the impact to the neighbors. He noted the neighbors'
objections state the house proposed by the Bogaerts would impact their views and natural light entering
their property. He referred to documentation and photographs they submitted disputing those assertions.
He summarized the neighbors on the north and south would prefer the Bogaerts not build a new house
closer to the water as it would result in a house between them versus the vacant portion of the Bogaerts
property that exists between them now. He concluded whether the Bogaerts built their house further to
the west should did not affect their variance request.
Mr. Thayer acknowledged it was physically possible to build a 30-foot wide long, narrow and tall house
within the 10-foot setbacks; however, that was not the type of structure envisioned by the Edmonds code.
The structure the Bogaerts propose would address the neighbor's concerns as much as possible and would
be aesthetically pleasing. He noted a 30-foot wide, 3-story townhouse type structure, a house the
Bogaerts could construct without seeking a variance, would have more massing and look more imposing
when viewed from the side. Instead the Bogaerts have proposed a structure with a minimal variance that
would have no impact on the neighbors.
Councilmember Plunkett interjected Ms. Haynes wrote him a letter that was included in the packet. Her
letter was written as a Commissioner on the Historic Preservation Commission regarding historic overlays
but did not make reference to this action. Mr. Lell advised if the letter did not have a direct bearing on
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this application/proceeding, it was beyond the scope of the Appearance of Fairness Doctrine. Out of an
abundance of caution, he invited any parties of record and the appellant to rebut the substance of the
letter. Councilmember Plunkett clarified the letter referred to the character of the neighborhood in
general and did not reference a specific lot. He advised the letter would not bias him in any way. Mr. Lell
advised it would not have a direct bearing on this proceeding and recommended the Council proceed. Mr.
Thayer had no objection.
Mr. Thayer continued, explaining the Hearing Examiner based her conclusion on, 1) the application was
inconsistent with the existing RS-12 zoning regulations to phase out non -conforming uses and stated if
the Bogaert's house were destroyed entirely in a natural disaster and they were required to rebuild, they
would be required to comply with the existing zoning regulations. He commented the 10-foot sideyards
envisioned for the RS-12 zone were not designed for a non -conforming, narrow lot as a RS-12 lot was
intended to be 80 feet wide with 10-foot wide setbacks on each side. He disagreed with the Hearing
Examiner's finding that non -conforming uses were to be uniformly phased out, noting the variance
process was intended to recognize unique circumstances. As his allotted time had expired, Mr. Thayer
urged the Council to review the materials in the record.
Parties of Record
Ron Nations, Edmonds, property owner to the south of the Bogaert property, explained his primary
concern was maintaining an overall aesthetic sense in the community. He expressed concern with a
reduction in their home's value, their sense of privacy, and sense of a small home in a quiet neighborhood
by a large structure located closer to their home than regulations allow. He commented on the negative
trend over the past 15 years of "wedging" large structures onto small lots after removing trees and
shrubbery and wanted to avoid that trend in their neighborhood. He compared Edmonds to Woodway and
Lynnwood, concluding large structures on small lots resulted in a more urban feel that was less livable
and destroyed privacy, natural features, open space, and wildlife habitat. He pointed out these issues
applied to lot setback as in accordance with physics, a reduction in the distance from a source of sound
increased the sound. He was also concerned with visual impacts.
Vicki Haynes, Edmonds, property owner to the south of the Bogaert property, expressed concern with
the "saming" of Edmonds and the loss of its character. She pointed out one of the tests for granting a
variance was whether it was detrimental. She found the proposed variance detrimental, pointing out the
impact of reducing the setback with regard to available light, and sense of space, air and privacy. She
reiterated Mr. Nations' comment about "wedging" houses on small properties. She acknowledged the
properties were very deep and narrow and not well suited to large homes. She commented University
Colony where these properties were located had a very special character extending back to the turn of the
century. She requested the Council deny the variance request.
Charles Greenberg, counsel representing the Wilsons, property owners to the north of the Bogaert
property, began his comment.
Mr. Thayer objected to the brief the Wilson's counsel faxed him at approximately noon today,
questioning whether the City's code allowed for the filing of a brief by another party in a closed record
appeal. Assuming the Council allowed the filing of the brief, he requested the brief not be admitted into
the record as he had not had an adequate opportunity to review and/or rebut issues raised in the brief. Mr.
Lell recommended procedural issues be addressed at the conclusion of argument. City Clerk Sandy
Chase advised a copy of the brief was provided at Councilmembers places on the dais this evening.
Councilmember Plunkett expressed concern the information was not provided in a timely manner. Mr.
Lell explained the City's code allowed parties to an appeal to submit timely written argument but did not
define timely submitted. He relayed Mr. Snyder's indication this has historically meant the Council has
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received briefing up to and during closed record appeals. As that had been the Council's past practice, he
recommended the Council continue that practice tonight. The appellant could raise an objection to any
attempt in the briefing to interject factual assertions not contained in the closed record.
Councilmember Dawson commented Mr. Lell's recommendation was that anything submitted up to and
during the closed record proceeding was timely, and unless one of the parties requested a continuance, it
was unlikely the Council would have an opportunity to review the information prior to their decision. Mr.
Lell agreed, commenting the Council had the discretion to continue the matter to a future meeting to
allow the Council an opportunity to review material that was submitted.
Mr. Greenberg advised he consulted with Mr. Snyder and was advised information could be submitted as
late as today knowing it may not be thoroughly reviewed under the circumstances. He preferred the
materials be considered and if required continue the proceeding. Mr. Lell asked Mr. Thayer whether he
was objecting to the substance of assertions made in the brief or the timeliness. Mr. Thayer answered
there were no new facts raised in the brief but he had not had an opportunity to review it thoroughly. He
relayed his client's preference not to continue this matter unless absolutely necessary.
Mr. Greenberg continued with his comments and advised on appeal, the Council must consider whether
the Hearing Examiner made an error in analyzing the issues. He noted the Hearing Examiner confirmed
staff s recommendation that a variance was not appropriate. He pointed out the six requirements of the
variance statute, asserting none of the requirements had been met with the exception of perhaps one. He
referred to a similar situation outlined in the record where a 30 foot wide house was constructed within
the required setbacks on a 50-foot lot on Sound View Place. He noted one of the requirements of the
variance statute was special circumstances which the Hearing Examiner found was not met. He
contended granting the variance would provide the Bogaerts a special privilege. He supported the
Hearing Examiner's decision to deny the variance application.
William Wilson, Edmonds, property owner immediately adjacent to the north of the Bogaert property,
commented there was little time for their counsel to submit materials sooner. He referred to a letter his
wife submitted today. He explained the houses in the area were currently staggered with one higher on
the slope and back on the bluff, the next home forward and the next back, etc. He advised their original
structure was constructed in 1919 and was located 4 feet from the north property line of the Bogaert
property and a walkway is along the property line. The Haynes structure is also very close to the
Bogaert's south property line. He disagreed with Mr. Thayer's statement that their only issue to the
Hearing Examiner was the western placement of the Bogaert structure, explaining their primary concern
was the reduction in the side setback because their home was located close to the property line. He noted
the Bogaerts' existing home, located up the slope was less intrusive to neighbors.
Mr. Lell asked Mr. Thayer if he had received the letter written by Ms. Wilson. Mr. Thayer answered no
and was provided a copy.
Nicole Wilson, Edmonds, property owner to the north of the Bogaert property, pointed out all property
had restrictions and potential purchasers bore the burden of determining whether the property would meet
current and future needs and if not, change one's vision or needs to suit the property rather than seeking to
make the property conform. She commented a reasonable person could assume the City's codes would be
enforced with variances granted only under extreme circumstances that constituted an undue hardship and
not simply to accommodate a preference when an alternative was available.
Walter Yeager, Edmonds, property owner to the north of the Wilsons, commented when these homes
were built 80 years ago, most were summer homes with few regulations on setbacks, etc. He commented
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the former owner of the Wilson property dealt with the setback issue when they sought to expand their
house by purchasing a 50-foot lot between their house and his house.
Al Rutledge, Edmonds, commented large homes had been constructed on small lots in this area.
Rebuttal
Mr. Thayer referred to site plans contained in Exhibit B of the Bogaert application. The first, existing
buildings and vegetation, illustrated the existing house, carport and vegetation. The next drawing
illustrated the proposed residence, highlighting the areas where the variance was sought on the northern
and southern boundaries of the most western portion of the residence and the northern boundary of the
garage. He noted the Bogaerts were open to discussing whether the existing carport was retained. The
next drawing was the buildable footprint that identified sight lines for the properties to the south and
north. He pointed out this drawing illustrated even without a variance the Bogaerts could construct a
long, narrow house that extended west on the property. He concluded these drawings showed the lengths
to which the Bogaerts have gone to propose a structure that would have the least impact on their
neighbors. He summarized the variance was consistent with the goals and purposes of the zoning
ordinances and was reasonably necessary given the non -conforming nature of the lot that was too narrow
for an RS-12 lot.
Mr. Lell asked if there were any parties of record or the appellant/applicant had any objections that
information provided was outside the record or any Appearance of Fairness challenges. No objections or
challenges were voiced.
Councilmember Moore explained the Council was restricted to the information contained in the record
and could not ask questions if the answer was not contained in the documentation. The Council could not
take into account emotional argument and must rule according to the regulations in place.
COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT PRO TEM
WAMBOLT, TO UPHOLD THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION AND STAFF'S
RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE VARIANCE.
Councilmember Dawson found the Hearing Examiner made the correct decision and staff's
recommendation was appropriate because under the City's code the request did not meet the variance
criteria. With regard to whether this was the minimum variance necessary to achieve a buildable
structure, she pointed out no variance would be required to build a structure. She noted although there
had been emotional pleas made to the Hearing Examiner and Council, the Council must base their
decision on whether the variance request met the provisions in the code. She noted none of the property
owners, although their current structures encroached into the setback, would not be allowed to rebuild in
the setback. She acknowledged the lot was narrow; however, a structure could be constructed that
adhered to the setback requirements. Although the property owner might find a wider footprint more
aesthetically pleasing, it was not required to construct a home on this lot and the code did not require
property owners be allowed to construct the house of their choice.
Councilmember Marin spoke in favor of the motion, commenting the Bogaerts made a reasonable request
via exploring the possibility of a variance. He referred to Conclusion #2 of the Hearing Examiner's
findings as the basis for his decision, agreeing the property owner was not denied the opportunity to build
a new, more modern structure or move the structure closer to the water. He was confident a structure
would be proposed in the future that would accomplish those objectives.
Councilmember Moore expressed support for the motion, agreeing with the Hearing Examiner's
conclusions. She noted the appellant's most compelling argument was the nonconforming lot; however,
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the nonconforming lot did not restrict them from building a house on the lot within the allowable
footprint. She advised citizens' emotional arguments about removing trees did not affect her decision as
residents did not have a right to retain trees unless they owned them nor did they have a right to staggered
development as part of the character of the community. She supported the appellant's right to build their
house as close to the water as regulations allowed, an action that denying the variance would not prohibit.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Mr. Lell advised he would return with draft findings and conclusions for consideration at a future Council
meeting. He asked whether the Council preferred to adopt the findings and conclusions by the Hearing
Examiner rather than drafting additional findings and conclusions of the Council. Councilmember
Dawson answered the Council's conclusions were consistent with the Hearing Examiner's decision.
4.
Military Family
Friendly
Employer
Program
PRESENTATION REGARDING THE MILITARY FAMILY FRIENDLY EMPLOYER.
PROGRAM, AND PROPOSED RESOLUTION DECLARING EDMONDS TO BE MILITARY
FAMILY FRIENDLY AND ENCOURAGING AREA BUSINESSES TO BECOME A MILITARY
FAMILY FRIENDLY EMPLOYMENT PARTNER.
Councilmember Dawson advised Caldie Rogers, President, Greater Marysville Tulalip Chamber of
Commerce, was unable to attend last week's meeting and apparently was not able to attend tonight. She
anticipated Ms. Rogers would prefer the Council take action rather than delaying action for two weeks.
Councilmember Dawson explained the Marysville Tulalip Chamber of Commerce developed this
program to support military families. She explained in many regions, dependants of military families
found themselves discriminated against in employment. Although Snohomish County has a positive
relationship with military families, through the development of this program, the Chamber learned
dependants of military families would apply for jobs and not get callbacks due to the base address on their
resume. When they changed their address to a PO Box, they received a much greater response. She
explained employers may be hesitant to hire a person who would only be stationed at a base for three
years; however, three years was the average length of employment in today's workforce. The intent of
this program was to educate the community and employers about the untapped resource in military family
members who tend to be better educated, hardworking, understand concepts such as a drug free
workplace, etc.
Councilmember Dawson explained the program developed by Marysville Tulalip Chamber of Commerce
encouraged area businesses to become a military family friendly employment partner. Cities would be
asked to provide businesses information about the Military Family Friendly program when they apply for
a business license and decals would be distributed to businesses that identified them as a military Family
Friendly Employer. She read the proposed resolution expressing the City's support for the Military
Family Friendly concept:
WHEREAS, the city of Edmonds hosts a vast number of military families who are either
permanently or temporarily stationed in the area; and
WHEREAS, military spouses and family members are often faced with employer bias because of
stereotypes such as availability and potential length of employment; and
WHEREAS, the city of Edmonds has and wishes to continue to experience economic
development and the creation of family wage jobs; and
WHEREAS, the city of Edmonds supports strongly a diverse and inclusive qualified workforce;
and
WHEREAS, the city of Edmonds supports fully our troops and their families; and
WHEREAS, the city of Edmonds is an equal opportunity employer; and
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WHEREAS, the city of Edmonds hereby makes the following finding of fact:
A. Today's employers are faced with an unprecedented challenge of meeting their staffing needs in
today's high-technology, service -oriented economy. The demand for motivated, qualified
personnel has outstripped supply in many industries. Without new sources of talent, growth,
productivity and profits will be constrained by shortages in the labor market.
B. Military family members provide an advantage to employers searching for high levels of talent,
training, and unique skills cultivated by the rigors of military family life.
C. Military family members are highly educated and trained in a variety of disciplines. More than
one -fifth of spouses have earned a baccalaureate degree and one in twenty holds one or more
graduate or professional degrees. Many more are licensed or certified in skilled trades or
professional fields.
D. The U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the average job tenure of
employees has been on a steady decline over the past decade. Across all industries, the average
tenure is between three and four years. The median tour of duty for military personnel is 3 years,
suggesting that their accompanying spouses are likely to be employed for an "average" period, if
they find employment shortly upon arrival.
E. Approximately 6500 sailors and civil service persons are assigned to Naval Station Everett with
an estimated 10,000 family members. Of this number there are about 5% per month that rotates in
and out. This means about 825 sailors plus family members, per month, are coming into and out
of Naval Station Everett.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
THE CITY OF EDMONDS IS A MILITARY FAMILY FRIENDLY PARTNER AND
ENCOURAGES AREA BUSINESSES TO JOIN THE MILITARY FAMILY FRIENDLY
PARTNERSHIP INITIATIVE.
Councilmember Dawson expressed her appreciation to City Clerk Sandy Chase for her support of this
concept. She noted this idea had already received recognition and awards although the official rollout had
not yet occurred.
Restl 1152
Military Family COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MARIN, FOR
Friendly APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NO. 1152 DECLARING EDMONDS TO BE MILITARY FAMILY
Employment Program FRIENDLY AND ENCOURAGING AREA BUSINESSES TO BECOME A MILITARY FAMILY
FRIENDLY EMPLOYMENT PARTNER.
Councilmember Moore declared this a brilliant idea, noting this may be a resource for Snohomish County
PUT) who was desperately searching for linemen, a job that paid $50,000/year. She asked if this was
modeled after another program or was a new idea. Councilmember Dawson stated the Marysville Tulalip
Chamber of Commerce created this program with the hope it would be replicated across the country.
Councilmember Marin planned to attend the kickoff event. Raised as a military dependant and serving in
the Navy Reserves, he was keenly aware of this problem. He expressed his thanks to the Marysville
Tulalip Chamber of Commerce for taking the lead on addressing this issue.
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Al Rutledge, Edmonds, suggested having a representative from Snohomish County Council speak to the
City Council about smaller homes that were being permitted in Snohomish County. Next, he reported the
StaffSeating at Taste of Edmonds was a great event with assistance provided by a lot of volunteers. He recalled 20 years
Council
Meetingsi ago the Council met twice a month and staff was seated at a table on one side of the room. He suggested
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the Council consider having configuration again rather than having staff sit in the audience. He also
suggested everyone attending Council meetings sign in to provide a record of who attends meetings and
for safety reasons.
Roger Hertrich, Edmonds, stated he has been an attender at several hearings lately and attended one
recently that he needed to relay a problem that he found with the actions and demeanor of the person in
charge of that meeting.
Responding to questions of City Attorney Lell, Mr. Hertrich stated the hearing he attended had nothing to
do with a Council Meeting; it has to do with a different action that the City Council has nothing to do
with.
Concerns re: Mr. Hertrich stated that he objected to testimony made by the person that was in charge of the meeting,
Hearing the Hearing Examiner. The hearing was regarding a remand which goes to Superior Court on appeal (if
Examiner
appealed). The person in charge indicated by their demeanor that they were a bit opposed to some of the
people that were there and some of the things that they were saying. Mr. Hertrich stated he specifically
objected at the meeting to the Hearing Examiner giving personal testimony. Mr. Hertrich stated the
Hearing Examiner needs to be adjusted in their behavior. The previous Hearing Examiner would sit
quietly, let everyone say what they wanted, take notes and maintain order but did not create an
antagonistic atmosphere. Mr. Hertrich further explained that the hearing was regarding buffering and the
wildlife area, it was separate from what the Council is dealing with and had to do with the PRD and
SEPA. He added that the Hearing Examiner's attitude makes it difficult for a person who is not used to
giving testimony. He suggested this issue be discussed when the Hearing Examiner makes a report to the
City Council.
Mayor's iNext, Mr. Hertrich pointed out the previous minutes did not capture all his remarks. With regard to comp
Vacation and
Comp Time time, he requested an accounting of the time the Mayor spends away from the City on vacation or comp
time.
8. MAYOR'S COMMENTS
non Kreiman Mayor Pro Tern Olson announced Don Kreiman passed away over the weekend. She commented he
would be greatly missed for his comments to the Council and involvement in various City committees
including the Transportation and Parking Committee and because he was an all-around great guy.
roc Autumn Mayor Pro Tem Olson encouraged the public to attend the Hot Autumn Nites car show on Saturday,
ites car show
September 8.
9. COUNCIL COMMENTS
State Auditor Council President Pro Tern Wambolt reported on the exit conference held with the State Auditor. The
Conference results of the audit were that the City complied with State laws and regulations and its own policies and
on
procedures in the areas they examined and internal controls were adequate to safeguard public assets.
Oct. 6 Graffiti Councilmember Dawson reported a number of cities were partnering for the October 6 Paint -Out event
Paint -Out Event sponsored by the Snohomish County Executive. Edmonds and Mountlake Terrace plan to paint a wall on
the trail behind Funtasia that is continually painted with graffiti. She explained the event would include
instruction on how to clean graffiti and information on paint products for various surfaces as well as
opportunities to paint out graffiti in the community. She urged anyone interested in participating to sign-
up in advance on Snohomish County's website. She noted the Realtors Association was also one of the
partners/sponsors.
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Councilmember Plunkett welcomed City Attorney Zach Lell and new Student Representative Scheibert.
Don Kreiman ICouncilmember Orvis commented although he and Mr. Kreiman often disagreed on issues, he was a
sincere person who was true to his beliefs and he would miss him.
Don Kreiman Councilmember Moore expressed her condolences to Don Kreiman's family. She noted Mr. Kreiman
gave a lot to the community as a member of the Edmonds Daybreakers Rotary and an active member of
the Chamber. He was a good friend and she would miss him terribly.
Graffiti Councilmember Moore complimented staff on the graffiti brochure distributed to the Council,
Brochure
commenting the brochure provided more information than she was aware the City provided. Next, she
pointed out the Mayor's salary had nearly doubled from $60,000 over the past eight years, yet the
Mayor's Job Description Mayor's job description was only two paragraphs long and there were few details regarding time required
to be spent on the job, vacation time, requirements to provide an annual report to the Council or set
annual goals, etc. She suggested in 2008 the Council consider expanding the job description, noting the
Directors' job descriptions were pages long and there were specifics with regard to the amount of
vacation time earned, etc. She concluded a better description and requirements would assist in making
the Mayor's job more transparent to the citizens.
Don Kreiman Councilmember Marin commented four years ago he ran against Don Kreiman for the Council and they
became good friends through that process. They worked together on several committees since then and
discovered they had many beliefs in common. He commented he was a great guy who would be missed.
Student Representative Scheibert thanked the Council for the opportunity to serve as Student
Representative.
Mayor Pro Tern Olson thanked Mr. Lell for his assistance during the meeting.
10. ADJOURN
With no further business, the Council meeting was adjourned at 8:56 p.m.
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