07/29/1986 City Council (3)THESE MINUTES SUBJECT
* TO APRIL 5, 1986 APPROVAL
EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
JULY 29, 1986
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Pro
Tem Laura Hall in the Plaza Meeting Room of the Edmonds Library. All present joined in the flag
salute.
PRESENT
John Nordquist
Steve Dwyer
Laura Hall
Jo -Anne Jaech
Bill Kasper
Lloyd Ostrom
Jack Wilson
Nigel Euling, Student Rep.
ABSENT
Larry. Naughten, Mayor
STAFF PRESENT
Dan Prinz, Police Chief
Peter Hahn, Comm. Svs. Dir.
Jack Weinz, Fire Chief
Bob Alberts, City Engineer.
Mary Lou Block, Planning Div. Mgr.
Jackie Parrett, City Clerk
Margaret Richards, Recorder
In the absence of Mayor Naughten, Council President Hall served as Mayor Pro Tem for the evening.
Councilmember Dwyer joined the meeting at 7:15 p.m, and did not vote on any items prior to the
Hearing to Obtain Citizen Input on 1987 Budget.
CONSENT AGENDA
Items (B), (C), and (E) were removed from the Consent Agenda. COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECOND-
ED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, TO. APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The.
approved items on the Consent Agenda include the following:
(A) ROLL CALL
(D) AUTHORIZATION TO CALL FOR BIDS FOR DAYTON STREET FORCE MAIN
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JULY 22, 1986 ITEM (B) ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
Councilmember Jaech noted a correction on page 5, paragraph 6, as follows: "She requested that
Staff submit information regarding this issue to the Council before the Parks & Recreation
Manager position" --not Personnel Manager --"is filled". COUNCILMEMBER JAECH V BY
COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED. MOTION CARRIED.
REPORT ON BIDS OPENED JULY 22, 1986 FOR 1986 _PAVEMENT OVERLAYS AND AWARD OF CONTRACT TO
LAKESIDE INDUSTRIES, INC. 128,395.00 ITEM C ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
* Councilmember Jaech noted that the Administrative Services Committee has prepared an outline of
information which should be provided to the Council when reports on bids are made, including: How
long the company has been conducting business; How large is the company, etc.
City Engineer Bob Alberts said Lakeside Industries is a very large firm. He clarified that there
is over $200,000 in the Budget for resurfacing: $142,000 for this particular project; $20,000 in
Street Fund 111; and $80,000 for the project on 80th.
Councilmember Kasper inquired how many miles are proposed to be resurfaced. He said the City
should resurface 10 to 12 miles per year. Mr. Alberts said approximately 2.5 miles would be
resurfaced.
Councilmember Jaech inquired what the lifespan of the overlays are anticipated to be. Mr. Al-
berts said five years would elapse before any appreciable amount of wear occurred. He noted that
any cracks which are resurfaced will eventually resurface. However, he said a considerably larg-
er amount of money would be invested in repairing roads if resurfacing were not part of the pro-
cess.
COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, T0. APPROVE ITEM (C). MOTION CARRIED.
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* See Council Minutes of August 8, 1986
APPROVAL OF CONTRACT WITH ELIZABETH GREENLEAF FOR LANDSCAPE DESIGN AND PARKS PLANNING SERVICES
tITEM E N THE CONSENT GEND
Councilmember Ostrom inquired if most of the projects allocated to Ms. Greenleaf have already
been completed for 1986. Community Services Director Peter Hahn replied negatively.
Councilmember Hall referred to a memorandum from Edmonds Planning Board Chairperson. Sherry Claus-
sen which encouraged the Council to include the Landscape Designer position in the 1987 Budget.
Councilmember Nordquist inquired if work performed by the Landscape Designer would be off.City
premises. Mr. Hahn replied affirmatively. He noted. that Ms. Greenleaf's contract is almost
identical to the former Landscape Designer's contract. He said although Ms. Greenleaf will have
an office set up in her home, a small percentage of her time will be spent on City premises.
Councilmember Jaech noted that the City is not allowed to provide a private contractor with work
space or equipment in accordance with State and Federal laws. The City can designate projects,
but the contractor designates his/her own work hours. Councilmember Jaech said even though Ms.
Greenleaf would be accessing City files during normal working hours and sit at a work place, it
would not be designated as her desk. Mr. Hahn noted that the other exception would be when Ms.
Greenleaf attends City meetings.
Councilmember Nordquist inquired if Ms. Greenleaf is aware that the City will not provide office
space for her. Mr. Hahn replied affirmatively.
COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILSON, TO APPROVE ITEM (E). MOTION
CARRIED, WITH COUNCILMEMBER JAECH AND COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM OPPOSED.
With reference to Item (D) on the Consent Agenda, Councilmember Kasper inquired where the force
main on Dayton Street will be located. City Engineer Bob Alberts said it will be located from
the railroad to the plant. Councilmember Kasper inquired if it will be installed in the street.
Mr. Alberts said it will be installed in the sidewalk.
AUDIENCE
*Mayor Pro Tem Hall opened the audience portion of the meeting. No public input was offered.
Mayor Pro Tem Hall closed the audience portion of the meeting.
HEARING TO OBTAIN CITIZEN INPUT ON 1987 BUDGET
David Smith, 602 - 2nd Ave. N., said he has consistently utilized the Anderson Center. He in-
quired about the status of the replacement of the gymnasium floor. Community Services Director
Peter Hahn said this issue was fully discussed at the Community Services Committee meeting. The
Council expressed concern that replacement of the floor would be impractical at the present time
because of the moisture and leakage problem in the building. Mr. Hahn said the floor will be
replaced after the problems are investigated and resolved. Mr. Smith inquired if the problems
emanate from the ceiling or concrete blocks. Councilmember Kasper said the drainage along the
tile is suspected to cause the problems.
Mr. Smith said he understood the moisture and leakage problem is processed through four depart-
ments. He inquired if the Engineering Department is included. Councilmember Hall inquired if
Mr. Smith was concerned with the process or replacement of the floor. Mr. Smith said he was
concerned about replacement of the floor because injuries have been sustained as a direct result
of the floor. He said as an attorney, he felt the City is subject to potential liability.
Public Works Superintendent Bobby Mills said he spoke with Doolittle & Associates today, and they
will be submitting a resume to the. City. They will analyze the problem the first of next month
if the City accepts their proposal. Mr. Mills said he will have the details by August 28th.
Councilmember Hall clarified for the audience that when references are made to committees, the
committees are as follows: Councilmember Nordquist and Councilmember Kasper serve on the Communi-
ty Services Committee; Councilmember Wilson and Councilmember Dwyer serve on' the Public Safety
Committee; and Councilmember Jaech and Councilmember Ostrom serve on the Administrative Services
Committee.
* See Council Minutes of,August 8, 1986
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Councilmember Kasper asked Mr. Smith what sport he participates in at the Anderson Center. Mr.
Smith said he participates in aerobics and utilizes the weight room. Councilmember Kasper in-
quired if Mr. Smith felt that the concrete floor was verboten. Mr. Smith said a sprung -type
floor that gives is recommended for running and jumping activities. He said the classes have
been getting small,er because people are going elsewhere for aerobic classes.
Councilmember Jaech recommended that the Risk Manager be consulted regarding potential liability
to the City, and that the classes be discontinued until the problem is resolved.
Natalie Shippen, 1022 Euclid, requested that aesthetic projects and considerations be given high-
er priority in future capital improvements and be reflected in the 1987 Budget.
Ms. Shippen said the parks survey which was recently conducted reflected the support for aesthet-
ic improvements, i.e., height restrictions, flower baskets, corner parks, tree heights, etc.
Ms. Shippen noted that only 21% of the population indicated a need for athletic fields in the
City, but 50% said they were satisfied with the recreation programs and sports leagues and 45%
indicated no opinion. Ms. Shippen said she made the comparison of recreational programs versus
aesthetic improvements because funds are drawn, at times, from one project to pay for another..
Ms. Shippen noted that support for aesthetics is not new to the City and is reflected in Chapter
15.30 of the Edmonds Community Development Code.
She added that the one factor that draws people to the City is its aesthetic appeal. She said
although the Chamber of Commerce provides activities which draw people to Edmonds, the City could
do more to enhance the setting.
She requested that the Council consider the following projects in the 1987 Budget: 1) provide
funds for four intersection corner park improvements; 2) retain flower maintenance and operation;
3) pursue decorative street lamps; 4) consider completion of undergrounding project at Railroad
Avenue and relocate Main Street wires to the alley.
She recommended that monies to fund these projects be transferred from the Acquisition and Im-
provement Fund to the Underground Wiring Fund and Street Beautification Fund.
Ms. Shippen inquired if the land which the IAC requires the City to provide in lieu of the 40 ft.
to the north of Brackett's Landing will be an exchange for $47,000. Mr. Hahn said they are sepa-
rate. Ms. Shippen said she felt the Department of Transportation should be required to purchase
the land for $47,000.
She recommended the following as potential revenue sources: 1) the .25% real estate tax, which
will generate $190,000 in 1986, be earmarked for aesthetic projects when the Meadowdale project
is completed; 2) renegotiate the Meadowdale project. She said she did not feel Edmonds should
participate equally in the funding of the project because the City does not generate as much
interest as Lynnwood because the City's age population which utilizes the field is not as great;
3) pursue PUD rebates and consider utilizing the money on undergrounding projects.
Jeff Palmer, 17510 - 76th Ave. W., said existing and future City projects demonstrate the need
for a Landscape Designer/Planning Consultant. He said any Parks Director will need a Designer to
assist him/her. He requested that the Council support a recommendation to budget for an indepen-
dently contracted Landscape Designer/ Planning Consultant in 1987.
Roger Hertrich, 1020 Puget Drive, said he felt the City should pursue shared community costs on
some projects which enhance local businesses. He said even though some projects, such as the
flower program, benefit citizens, the ben'efit,is greater to the downtown business community.
Mr. -84 trich said he felt the budget: should more carefully allocate monies by analyzing the effi-
ciehcy'of- the. operation, .productivity of the individuals who disperse the funds, and whether or
not the level of services are really demanded by the public. Mr. Hertrich said it is typical
that local and State governments attach a percentage increase when revenue sources are needed.
He said he felt this mode of operation should stop. Ile suggested that the City experiment for
one year and not impose a tax increase.
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Mr. Hertrich suggested that the City research a more practical and less expensive cover than
proposed for Yost Pool as one source of revenue savings.
He inquired if $147,000 in the 1985 Budget has been spent on Brackett's Landing. Mr. Hahn re-
plied negatively. He said approximately two-thirds is County and IAC money. Mr. Hertrich in-
quired if interest is being drawn on the money. Mr. Hahn replied affirmatively.
Jean Jordan, 912 Main St., said she lives next door to the playhouse on 9th and Main. She said
she has considered moving because the City may enlarge the parking lot and also construct a park
on the adjacent lot.
Ms. Jordan said a stop -and -go light is necessary on 9th and Main because many people ignore the
traffic control. She also recommended that an arterial stop sign be installed by Albertson's at
Westgate as well as other major grocery stores in Edmonds.
Finis Tupper, 711 Daley Street, said last year's budget proposal was a hold -the -line budget on
some expenditures. He said, however, that citizens experience a 5% increase in property taxes
every year.
Mr. Tupper said because Federal revenue sharing cutbacks will occur and private industry is seri-
ously in a cutback mode, the City must assume the same posture for the ensuing years' budget. He
requested that the Council analyze some of the expenditures to determine if there are realistic
alternatives.
He said one of his concerns was: What is the impact of the City's improvements to the downtown
area? He questioned: 1) if higher rents are forcing downtown businesses out of the area; 2) if
giving $7,500 to D-DAT is realistic and supported by downtown businesses. Mr. Tupper recommended
that the City poll property owners to ascertain whether or not they are willing to support an LID
to support these programs.
Betty Mathay, 8006 240th S.W., said a park sign at 76th and 242nd is necessary because many
people are unaware that the Mathay-Ballinger Park.exists.
Council President Hall noted that preliminary budget hearings will take place in mid -fall.
MAYOR
Mayor Pro Tem Hall thanked the public for their participation this evening.
Mayor Pro Tem Hall announced that the Wednesday Staff meeting was cancelled this week.
COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM MOVED TO DISPENSE WITH THE COUNCIL PORTION OF THE MEETING. The motion was
not seconded or voted upon.
The meeting adjourned at 7:53 p.m.
These minutes are subject to August 5, 1986 approval.
JACQUELINE G. PARRETT, City Clerk CARRY NAUGHTEN, Mayor
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