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09/26/1995 City CouncilEDMONDS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED MINUTES SEPTEMBER 26, 1995 The special Edmonds City Council meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Laura Hall in the Library Plaza Room, 650 Main Street, followed by the flag salute. ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT Laura Hall, Mayor Tom Petruzzi, Council President William J. Kasper, Councilmember Michael Hall, Councilmember Dave Earling, Councilmember John Nordquist, Councilmember Roger L. Myers, Councilmember Barbara Fahey, Councilmember ALSO PRESENT Emily Shen, Student Representative 1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA STAFF -PRESENT Tom Miller, Police Chief Michael Springer, Fire Chief Paul Mar, Community Services Director Art Housler, Administrative Services Director Brent Hunter, Personnel Manager Rob Chave, Planning Manager Sgt. Mark Marsh, Police Department Joan Ferebee, Court Administrator Scott Snyder, City Attorney Sandy Chase, City Clerk Christine Laws, Recorder COUNCIL PRESIDENT PETRUZZI MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST, TO MOVE A 15 MINUTE EXECUTIVE SESSION ON A LEGAL MATTER FROM ITEM NO. 10 ON THE AGENDA TO ITEM NO.3A. MOTION CARRIED. COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MYERS, TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED. MOTION CARRIED. 2. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS Councilmember Hall pulled Items D and G. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PETRUZZI MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The agenda items passed are as follows: (A) ROLL CALL (B) APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 18, 1995 (C) APPROVAL OF CLAIM WARRANTS #3215S THRU #4136F FOR THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER C�Ai�ll 18, 1995 IN THE AMOUNT OF $235,184.38; AND APPROVAL OF PAYROLL WARRANTS �ARAgNf S #955179 THRU 4955487 FOR THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER 1 THRU SEPTEMBER 15, 1995 IN THE AMOUNT OF $399,499.96 SIGN AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE EDMONDS )C OoA'66AI95 (I-)AUTHORIZATION OCOMMISS COMMISSIONFOR MAG CALSTRINGS FOR TWO PERFORMANCES - THE WINTER AA0 PERFORMING ARTS SERIES ($2,500) Approved City Council Minutes Page 1 September 26, 1995 of p �10 4 (F) AUTHORIZATION FOR CULTURAL ARTS COORDINATOR TO ATTEND OUT OF STATE ,BRA TRAINING psap- (H) ORDINANCE NO. 3041 AMENDING SECTION 8.48 OF THE CITY CODE REGARDING F qt 116 PARKING AT THE FISHING PIER PARKING LOT. Counciimember Hall disclosed he pulled Items D and G because he will be abstaining from voting on them. Regarding Item D, his firm did some pro bono work for the Edmonds in Bloom project. Regarding Item G, he was President of the Parking Committee. COUNCILMEMBER MYERS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER FAHEY, TO APPROVE ITEMS D AND G. MOTION CARRIED WITH COUNCILMEMBER HALL ABSTAINING. The items passed are as follows: i pMo� (D) AUTHORIZATION FOR MAYOR TO SIGN NAME RIGHTS AND POSTER 1,4 PUBLICATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN EDMONDS ARTS COMMISSION AND THE EDMONDS IN BLOOM ASSOCIATION 3,q,gPX (G) ORDINANCE NO. 3042 AMENDING BOUNDARIES OF THE THREE HOUR PARKING .PMX1 ZONE WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT Ito 3. INTRODUCTION OF NEW DIRECTOR OF CASCADE SYMPHONY Mayor Hall announced the intention to introduce the new Conductor/Director of the Cascade lam' Al Symphony. She then asked Cascade Symphony Board of Directors President Cami Smith and new 4100 Musical Director Gregory Sullivan Isaacs to come forward. Mayor Hall provided to Council the personal history and credentials of the new president. Prior to introducing Mr. Isaacs, Mayor Hall acknowledged and thanked Conductor/Maestro Emeritus Bob Anderson who for 34 years was the Conductor/Director of the Cascade Symphony and Dennis Clark who serves on the Cascade Symphony Board. As a member of the Cascade Symphony Honorary Board, it was Mayor Hall's pleasure to introduce Mr. Gregory Sullivan Isaacs, the new Conductor and Musical Director of the Cascade Symphony Orchestra. Maestro Isaacs is nationally renowned as a conductor, composer, and performer, having spent the last 16 years as musical director for orchestras and operas in the Chicago and Los Angeles areas. He is an accomplished pianist, violinist, lyric tenor and author. Maestro Isaacs expressed his pride in being in Edmonds. He invited all to come hear the Symphony, support it with season tickets and invite friends and neighbors to attend. The first performance is October 23. �y6 3A. EXECUTIVE SESSION ON LEGAL MATTER 9> S&'S�a At 7:13 Council recessed to an Executive Session on a legal matter. The meeting was reconvened at 7:32. 4. HEARING ON A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF AN EXISTING MORATORIUM ON THE PERMITTING OR APPROVAL OF ANY ANTENNA OR TOWER STRUCTURE FOR THE USE IN CELLULAR TELEPHONE ACTIVITIES AND 6►��a EXEMPTING ANY RECEIVING OR TRANSMITTING ANTENNA STRUCTURE REGULATED �o ER M BY THE FCC AND WHICH THE CITY IS PREEMPTOR FROM REGULATING, AND A�R1r1 ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW M� Planning Director Rob Chave asked for a six-month extension of the present moratorium. Staff has been working diligently with the ad hoc advisory committee and expects to be back before Council with Approved City Council Minutes Page 2 September 26, 1995 a product in six weeks. This extension will allow them time to get this work completed. It would also provide time for any code changes that may result. The public portion of the hearing was opened, and after ascertaining there were no speakers wishing to be heard, was closed. COUNCILMEMBER EARLING MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MYERS, TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NO. 3043 EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM FOR AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS. MOTION CARRIED. Mr. Chave reported that the State has generated a lot of interest in this ordinance and would like to distribute the draft, upon completion, around the state as a model ordinance that other jurisdictions are finding very useful in their work on cell towers. What Edmonds is working on will apparently be the model that the State is looking to adopt. City Attorney Scott Snyder left the meeting at this time. 5. DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC SAFETY SPACE NEEDS/FACILITY Pu r�fl Mayor Hall reminded Council and the audience that over time the City of Edmonds has grown quite a i6A bit since George Brackett in 1870 bought 147 acres on the waterfront and claimed them for the City of 5f A S Edmonds. We are going into the phase mode now of public safety needs. We have built over the years a rI00 new City Hall in 1962; a Public Works facility in 1967, this library and Council Chambers in 1982; the Wastewater Treatment Plant in 1991; and the new Public Works facility was completed in 1994, on time and under budget. We have purchased the Financial Building, and now we come to the Public Safety facility. Mayor Hall emphasized that this should not be treated as left over -- this is a dynamic element of our community which must stand alone. It is our emergency and our safety housing that is so imperative that we deal with now. Mayor Hall announced that she has appointed a citizens ad hoc committee, and acknowledged those in the audience: Tom Farr, Chuck Cain, Ray Albano, Dan Prinz, Betty Mueller, and Dave Page. She expressed thanks to all these busy people for their assistance in getting the facility built. She then turned the discussion over to Paul Mar. Councilmember Kasper noted that he had requested a copy of the July 25, 1995 Council minutes for each Council member in case there was any misconception of the last decision -making process. Mr. Mar handed copies to the Council members for their notebooks. Community Services Director Paul Mar reiterated that the citizens committee has been formed. They have met five times, two times without the consultants Arai -Jackson, and three meetings with Arai - Jackson. He stated his desire to bring all of the Council up-to-date and acknowledged that several Council members have partaken in the work sessions of the committee. He used the overhead projector to go over the information that has been prepared as a lead-in to Council discussion. He stated that while the minutes of the September 20 meeting had not yet been completed, he would recap as best as he could what had transpired at that meeting. In terms of looking at the issue, the questions in terms of public safety capital space needs are: (1) What are the needs? (2) How much will it cost? and (3) How will it be funded? That is the issue that Administration, Council and this committee have been charged with in terms of looking at the public safety needs. In terms of the public safety space and capital needs that have been identified, they basically fall within these categories: at the Civic Center, replacement of a police function that is there now, municipal court, fire administration, and Fire Station No. 7. In addition, other capital needs have been identified, and those were discussed by Council on July 25 and other settings: Fire Station No. 6, a fire training center, and fire apparatus. As indicated in the packet, by far the largest component both in terms of size and cost is the Civic Center complex. In terms of looking at what the focus of the scope of work of each of the entities that have worked on this, Administration has been looking at how to meet these needs for a number of years. The most recent activity began in late 1992 Approved City Council Minutes Page 3 September 26, 1995 and is still going on to date. The City Council has looked at it in terms of looking at what is within its scope; there has been identification that all of these are important needs. The citizens committee has also embraced it and says all the public safety and capital needs are there. In the amendment to the Arai - Jackson contract, their focus was on the Civic Center with the site adaptation of whatever we came up with for Fire Station No. 7, for Fire Station No. 6, and neither the fire training center nor the fire apparatus was part of their scope of work. One item that was brought up as far as the current site for Fire Station No. 6 was the communication tower that currently sits on top of the fire station. That was brought up in one of the committee meetings, and it an item Mr. Mar thinks is going to have to be part of the answer as the City comes up with a solution. At Council President Petruzzi's request, Mr. Mar explained that the tower atop Fire Station No. 6 houses fire communication, police communication, and public works communication. Whatever the solution that is reached with regard to Fire Station No. 6 has to take into consideration what happens to that tower. Mr. Mar reiterated that the committee has met five times. The initial meeting was on July 24. Another meeting was held at Fire Station No. 6, and not all of the committee members could attend. Accordingly, two additional meetings were held on August 3 and 4. The initial meeting of the. committee with Arai -Jackson Architects was on August 23 and met again September 5 and September 20. The minutes of those first two meetings are included in Council packets. In terms of looking at the space needs for public safety, Staff has taken a two and a half year look at these needs. This is contained in Exhibit 5 of the packets. The program space needs for municipal court, police, fire administration, and Fire Station No. 7 are presented in detail. He showed the program space needs in net square feet which is the program space which does not include corridors, hallways, wall thickness, or anything. In applying grossing factors to get a buildable space, we come up with a need for the program of 34,000-43,000 square feet. That is the need that has been identified by the staff. Mr. Mar stated when we first met with Arai -Jackson in terms of looking at their scope of work, we identified several tasks for them to do. One was to validate the space needs, the second one was to look at these grossing factors to see if they were appropriate, and to explore space -sharing opportunities. We have reduced the program needs back from early 1993. Basically, Arai -Jackson agreed with us. They said what our program looks like is reasonable and works. They had a little concern with some of Mr. Mar's grossing factors used, in particular for fire administration and Fire Station No. 7. Their gross square footage is close to what we have, so in terms of the initial look at the program, based on the numbers, they did verify our program which was the baseline that we wanted them to have in starting out with their work with us. Looking at those space needs, they gave an initial cost estimate on September 5 that for that program to be built at the Civic Center site, including demolition and site preparation work, in 1995 dollars was around $8.6 million and escalated to a January 1997 start date at about $9.3 million. The committee was advised of this on September 5. As a result of that meeting, one of the tasks Arai - Jackson was to do was to look at non -programmatic and programmatic ways to reduce the scope of the budget -- reduce the scope of the project, therefore reducing the cost. In Exhibit 9 there are some discussions of the non -programmatic ideas for reducing the cost of the budget by reducing the amount of site area that would be covered. In terms of what they presented on the 20th, the number for savings was approximately half a million dollars in site work (if they did not use the vacated Edmonds Street nor the parcel to the North of Edmonds Street, and if they did not remove the church from the southwest corner). In terms of looking at the programmatic ideas, and again they did not have a chance to review this with Staff, they came up with something that Mr. Mar in his discussions with the Directors and with the Court Administrator thought unacceptable from an operational perspective. Councilmember Earling asked if Mr. Mar could pick out two or three items and describe why they were felt unacceptable. Councilmember Earling would like to better understand what problems exist. Mayor Hall called upon Police Chief Miller and Fire Chief Springer to discuss the topic of one lobby. Chief Springer asked to address the point on reducing the fire apparatuses. He had an illustrative overhead showing the space needs of the fire apparatus. When they looked at the configuration of the square footage, they were only looking at gross square footage needs. In a fire station, at the bay floor area that houses the vehicles, we are looking at laws and regulations as to the size of our vehicles. That Approved City Council Minutes Page 4 September 26, 1995 is why we asked for a specific dimension. For example, in the illustration which is not the largest unit, by law you must have a clearance around the fire engine which is three feet.. Arai -Jackson was not looking at their operational or true functional needs. That is just one example. At Councilmember Earling's request, Mayor Hall asked if they could go back to the common entry area. Chief Springer stated that the configuration is shown with a single entry between the two facilities, and they are looking at the fire side as being a totally separate building for its functional needs. By design, that would eliminate a single public entry. Chief Miller commented that presently, we have a shared lobby and a shared. conference room, and they don't work. Chief Miller can't understand why we would want to replicate that process in a new building. He feels this set up is confusing to the citizens, and it is not effective for us to deal with people that way, especially when the phones are ringing and we are trying to deal with victims of crimes at the front counter. With regard to the combined conference areas for joint use -- we have multiple conflicts with our current shared conference room. With regard to a joint use of exercise areas -- police and fire are unique because of the different work schedules; fire staff work a 24-on and 24-off schedule, but police work 8-hour shifts. Chief Miller believes it can be found that there are conflicts in the ability to use equipment. Therefore, staff are not staying at their maximum physical shape. Regarding single public restrooms for buildings -- he believes that we are doing that right now, and it is inadequate. Councilmember Earling indicated most of the answers were certainly acceptable. The one he doesn't quite understand is the entryway and how, with proper signage and having Staff indicate how people could get from one line to another, would go a long ways to addressing that issue. It seems to be more of how to address the public than a space need. He acknowledged that it was not very much square footage, but it seemed to him that with the proper signage it could be done. The other issues described he can understand, but the entryway falls short. Council President Petruzzi has difficulty on the entryway, but also has difficulty on the conference rooms. That is a standard operating procedure in companies. They share conference rooms. You have log books for conference rooms, you set an appointment for a conference room, and it is not a big deal. If you have sufficient conference space, why couldn't two departments work around the meetings? Mayor Hall said that was going on now and was unsatisfactory. Councilmember Hall feels one of the first issues regarding the joint entryway is a function of the building itself. If you are going to have enough space for each department, you will probably have them at opposite ends of the building. It would be impractical to have the combined entry space. That is probably the main concern. He doesn't see that there is a problem with sharing conference spaces. He thinks what they are telling Council is that we don't have enough conference space, so the fact that we are just replicating what we have now is unacceptable. Whether we share it or not, more of it is needed. Council President Petruzzi asked if we followed this program if we would be replicating the same square footage of conference rooms. Chief Miller indicated that sharing one conference room replicates the current problem. He wants to address that because he does not want to frustrate the process, but this is a fundamental issue from his point of view. He doesn't want to replicate the problems that we have now. He knows the same issue exists in fire as it does in police, and that is that we have an accreditation process that mandates a specific number of hours of in-service training for our employees as well as roll call training, and if we don't complete that because of unavailability of conference rooms, we may end up not getting some employees the minimum amount of training which would jeopardize our accreditation. It is a concern that has a domino effect through everything that we do. The problem they have now is that even using a log book, they find that the week is booked. Council President Petruzzi commented that in February of this year Chief Springer said he would embrace the opportunity of putting his administration in the Financial Building. That was part of the decision -making process when we bought the Financial Building. Now, fire administration wants to be put in the fire station. If you go into the administration building, you will see a savings of 2,531 square gross feet at about $200 per foot Right now the 44,000 square feet is going to cost $8.6 -9.3 million. If you were to put the fire administration in the Financial Center, then you could also solve the problem of Approved City Council Minutes Page 5 September 26, 1995 having your own conference room there. So, we would still be down to one conference room. We have the space in the Financial Center for the fire administration and for a conference room for fire administration. Chief Springer indicated that it was correct that previous statements had been made in that direction. This evening he would like to discuss the true functional and operational needs, and keeping a fire administration with the fire station is the most effective way of running the fire department. Mayor Hall amplified that if the tone goes off, and we have fire personnel across the plaza, there could be running and darting across streets and through traffic to get to the call as she understands it. We also have vehicles that may be displaced over there. Council President Petruzzi expressed difficulty in understanding why it was OK in February and it is not OK today. In regards to having the Chief and his administration in the Financial Center, it is not like it is a long distance away; it is across the street. In regard to having fire vehicles available, there are 78 parking spaces in the Financial Center. Mr. Petruzzi next called attention to the suggestions of the kinds of functions that could be put into the administration building instead of public safety. The courts archival storage, fire administration, and the police training room add up to 4,000 square feet which is roughly an $800,000 savings. Chief Miller said that the problem the court has now is storage. They are literally carrying boxes back and forth between their administrative offices and the courtroom. What you are really doing by putting archival storage across the street is forcing those employees to carry big, heavy boxes like they do now. Regarding the placing the police training room at the administration building, he objected strenuously because it would be a temporary fix. With future growth, there is going to be a need for more office space, and the training room will likely be displaced. Mayor Hall added that the question was "could fire administration exist in the other building; could the court?" Yes, they could, but is it functionally sound, and she believes the answer to the question is no. Councilmember Myers indicated he had sat through a lot of discussions when the Edmonds School District was putting together their administrative center. Many of these same discussions were held because they were talking about conference rooms, sharing conference rooms, etc., and it has proven to be a very workable situation over there. Sometimes we are often more afraid of the unknown because we are not sure what's there. The other point he wanted to address was the single public entry. There is more than just saving square footage there, because single public entry means that the two buildings are joined together; that means we would not have to replicate a lot of the HVAC equipment, heating, etc. Instead of having two plants, we can have one source of that. All of that is going to cut down on the cost. He agrees with Mr. Earling that with proper signage, going into a lobby and knowing which line to get into is not that big of a problem. The single public restroom for the building, again, is a savings. No one on this Council or in this city wants to make your job any more difficult than it is. We have a fixed amount of money. Councilmember Myers also remembered several times asking about whether the fire administration could be placed in the administration building, and it was enthusiastically addressed at that time. Now he is a little discouraged that Council is hearing a different story. A lot of negotiations went on with the Financial Center with that understanding. Chief Miller responded to Councilmember Myers by saying that in the issue of the shared front lobby, there is a need to understand there will be lines in there for people coming in to get fingerprinted, crime victims coming in, and people coming in with questions or general information. They will be standing two or three deep, and you will have someone who stands in line, not realizing they are in the wrong line if they need to go down the hall or around the corner to pay a ticket or want to see the Fire Chief. Regardless of the signage that you put, it must be understood that if you put the court, fire and police all in the same front lobby, the clientele that are dealt with on the criminal side or courts is probably not the same person that you want standing next to you if you were a crime victim that had just been assaulted. That is a serious concern of Chief Miller -- putting victims and suspects within two or three feet of each other, standing there. They are literally smelly often times, use foul language often times, and sometimes get violent. He thinks we need to separate the court, police and fire to prevent that problem. It is truly a matter of functionality. The other issue is a concern of the unknown with shared conference rooms. In fact , it is just the opposite. It is known to us; it doesn't work. He again stated he could not understand why we are trying to replicate what we have. To him it would be a tremendous disservice to Approved City Council Minutes Page 6 September 26. 1995 seduce the public into thinking that with shared spaces and combining these functions we would be better off. Chief Miller would rather go after a bond and have the public not pass a bond knowing at least that it was an issue that would solve our problems and not seduce them into thinking this is going to work when it's not. He understands there is a budget we need to work with and hopes the issue is left to the voters to come up and say what they will and won't support. Mr. Mar followed up by stating the next task that was on the Arai -Jackson menu was to take that program and to lay spaces out. One of the charges was to look at whether they could co -locate restrooms, could they arrange those entries so that functionality is met and in doing that was there a possibility for savings. He is saying that perhaps there is a possibility to combine the entries and make it functionally work so that you can separate who goes where. We don't know that answer right now because the next step in their charge was to go in and do the layouts that was going to be part of the next work session. In terms of that, this is not the final thing, but we need a starting point of the workable space program. He thinks that is where we need to say "yes, this is it", and he thought at the 20th meeting we were going to have that and give the consultants the charge to go to the next step. Councilmember Nordquist stated that he disagrees with his colleagues. He thinks that the police department should operate as a separate unit, considering violence issues today. We have had them together too long; he believes we need to separate them, even at the front door, and the same thing with the conference rooms. In visiting other cities, the fire department and police department are segregated off. He recognized there is a budget, but said we have to give them some room. Responding to Councilmember Myers, Mr. Mar clarified that what he said was that what Council has in the packets is the space program. In police and fire there was a lobby programmed -- numbers. That is in one dimension. Now, let's put in two dimensions and see what it looks like. Can you put the restrooms so they are either back-to-back or together or somehow where you can save space. But, until you get to the next step, he can't say "let's cut this out of here now". He doesn't think that is fair at this point. Basically what we have is identification of functions needed to perform the duties for the courts, for fire, and for police. Given that function, what is needed to serve that? All we are doing is listing what we need based on comparable standards with other jurisdictions, and we came up with the program needs of 34,021. Then we looked at what would be needed to build in terms of the walls and everything else to accommodate that, and we came up with the 44,000 square feet. The next step is how you arrange that on the civic center campus site so that (1) you meet all code requirements, and (2) satisfy all the functional requirements of who sits next to whom and how they operate.. Council President Petruzzi asked if Mr. Mar was now suggesting that in the next phase that Arai -Jackson will massage the plan and attempt to take some of this into consideration, such as an entryway. Mr. Mar responded that his understanding from the scope of work was that the next step was to take the space program and start to conceptually arrange the spaces, not draw each box, but simply arrange the spaces to see how they would fit on the site. Mr. Petruzzi asked if Mr. Mar was saying that he would go down this list with them. Mr. Mar said they would take the entire program and look at how things would be arranged -- would you cluster all of your conference rooms together, and if you cluster all of your conference rooms together, what kind of savings on space could you get. If you cluster the entries together so that once you got in the door you would know you were in fire, police or the courts, but it could be a common entry as you go through the door. Those are things he thinks takes an architect planner and someone who does layouts. Mayor Hall commented that Mr. Mar had said the key term --- conference rooms cluster and not a conference room that is necessarily multipurpose. Mr. Mar then noted that we are constrained, obviously, by the fact that with the civic center site we have height restriction, and we have the site coverage issue. How do you arrange those spaces where it can be laid out? Mr. Mar thinks that is where we are going with the next step. Councilmember Petruzzi next questioned the issue of the archival storage. Court Administrator Joan Ferebee came forward to respond to these concerns. Approved City Council Minutes Page 7 September 26, 1995 Court Administrator Joan Ferebee said the archive storage in the court consists of cases that are closed, but often it is necessary to retrieve those cases to pull out paperwork. It is required to keep those cases for five years. She stated they are always going back and forth to the archive. Councilmember Petruzzi asked whether or not it was a matter of carrying boxes back and forth, and Ms. Ferebee indicated it was. Right now those boxes are in the court office, under desks, in the back room, outside departments. What they do is stack them all in a box and carry it back to their department and file them away. They do it constantly every day, three times a day. Councilmember Fahey addressed comments Chief Miller. She asked when he was talking about the different categories of people that would be utilizing the shared lobby, in her mind when she thinks of going down to the police department, she is thinking of approaching the desk for getting a dog license or filing an accident report, She does not think that even if she were going there for those kinds of "police business" she would necessarily want to be approaching the same counter space as what he described as doing fingerprinting and having people using foul language. She has never encountered that whenever she has been down there. She thinks those types of activities and those types of people would be brought into a separate area of the police department and not be utilizing the lobby and the central desk area that is available for the general public. She is very confused with that expressed concern. Chief Miller assured her those things do go on. People come to pay their fines with the court, and as is known that is about ten feet to the left of the front lobby. They will walk in and think they need to pay their fine at the police department; they will come in frequently irate and upset about the ticket; and they will be in line with other people buying dog licenses without realizing they are in the wrong line. These irate people are then directed to court. The Court Administrator has this week asked officers to come out and stand by while these people are dealt with at her counter so no one is assaulted by these people. Councilmember Fahey's suggested it was still an issue of signage and appropriate ways to send people to the appropriate areas. In her opinion if you are talking about one building that houses all of these facilities anyway, you are still going to have people coming in with a certain amount of confusion, and it is going to require the appropriate signage. Chief Miller said his concern was commingling people who are potentially violent with people there to buy a dog license or ask for help as a crime victim. That is where the concern comes from in his point of view on sharing a common lobby whether it is the size they have now or another 50 square feet, they are all in that same confined area. Chief Springer interjected that right now in the shared entry there is an automatic blood pressure station. There are many people that desire not to use that station there because of what Chief Miller described. He confirmed that it is a hostile environment. Councilmember Fahey next questioned Chief Springer regarding the location of fire administration. She indicated this issue was from the first meeting on space needs and information given to Council on August 28. The question was raised at that time of "Could fire administration be offset away from the fire station. The answer is yes. Fire administration's key interactions are with the Building Department, Police Department, Planning, and the Mayor." And that was the kind of information that was also given Council at the retreat. Council got the clear impression that when looking at the people that are housed in the administration and are talking about a fire marshal and a clerk and so on, that these people do not necessarily have to be housed in conjunction with the fire station, that the kinds of services that they provide more appropriately belong in the administrative side of our complex. It is hard for her to envision most of the people that are described as at least being the staff people for administration being the ones that are going to be exiting the building to respond to fires out there. The other issue is that if administration is over in the Financial Center, it would seem to her that the fire station does not have that much of the general public coming to them, they would be going to the fire administration desk and getting the services they need there, and you wouldn't have as much "public" coming into contact with the police over in that other facility. Councilmember Hall remarked at the time Council was asking these questions as to whether these things could be combined and whether or not fire administration could be located in the Financial Center, it was up in the air as to whether we were even going to have a Financial Center or whether we were going to have a campus. He would not want to penalize the fire department for coming forth and being at least cooperative with us in answering those questions because we were feeling around as to whether or not Approved City Council Minutes Page 8 September 26, 1995 we could do these things. Mr. Hall thinks that at this point we are focused on the actual Public Safety Building and there are certain needs that they have come up with and certain concerns they have come up with. He agreed with Mr. Mar that Council doesn't need to make some decisions at this point. He thinks Council is focusing on something today that it really doesn't have to. Councilmember Fahey asked Chief Springer to further explain why after Council had been told during the course of the retreat that fire administration could be located in the Financial Center, that there has been a change in the need for the location. She doesn't understand the justification, because she knows Council was told that a lot of fire stations operate independently of administration and that there really isn't any problem with administration being housed apart from Fire Station No. 7. She doesn't understand the change in perspective on all of this. Chief Springer advised that from a functional standpoint, the City of Edmonds Fire Department is a very small organization and all personnel respond to emergency calls. They do not have the luxury of having a duty officer that would go between the fire stations and go to the main use station. We coordinate out of Fire Station No. 7 with a line officer. That is a direct link utilization of communication between fire administration all day long. The majority of the work of the Fire Marshall is with Police and with the Building Department, two divisions. The majority of work for a Fire Chief is between the Mayor, the Building Department, the Planning Department, the Police Department and all the different areas of this city. The Assistant Fire Chief is in a similar mode of coordinating on a daily basis with all divisions of the City. They have public education, and they have further hazardous materials people that work with the different divisions. Yes, statements were made that fire administration could relocate. That is very obvious, but this evening Chief Springer would like to focus on the true operations and functions. The way the current configuration is with the City, the Fire Chief responds immediately with the fire engines and the aid car and is in constant communication with that fire officer that is at the fire station. Until we grow to a larger organization, the number one priority would be, if you are asking about how our fire department operates, is to have the fire administration with the fire station, and that would change in the future as our organization grows. Councilmember Kasper agreed with Councilmember Fahey. What Chief Springer is saying now is a direct contradiction to what he said when we first discussed this. He pointed out there are fire stations located all over. Mr. Kasper indicated the Fire Chief was considering a site as late as three weeks ago on Casper and up on the hill. That would not have put fire administration in a fire station; it would have been with other administrative offices. Therefore, he does not believe Chief Springer's arguments stand up. Mayor Hall reminded all that this was a discussion item. However, there is the ad hoc committee in place awaiting some direction. February 6, 1996 is being considered as the date for a bond issue. She asked for some direction and course of action that would give an idea to the committee as to a dollar amount and to time. She acknowledged that Council was not ready to decide on a dollar amount tonight. This discussion needs to lead to direction. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PETRUZZI MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MYERS, TO EXTEND THE DISCUSSION ANOTHER 10 MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED. Councilmember Earling commented the confusing issue has been the perception at least that there have been shifting priorities within some of the departments. As has been indicated previously, an uncertainty as to where the administration for the fire department would be located, Council is now finding out that instead of considering a fire station in the bowl area, there is shifting emphasis perhaps for up the hill, acquiring new sites, putting in equipment, and Mr. Earling thinks those are all issues that the Council has to address. Even if a dollar amount is not reached tonight, philosophically Council has to come to some agreement as to how far we can expect to expand this package and have any hope of going back to the citizens for their consideration on a ballot issue that they would consider realistic. Councilmember Fahey stated at the space needs meeting last week, the citizens that are participating in the committee asked if they could prevail upon Council to listen to their perspective for about five minutes in terms of how they would like to approach the bond issue, the possible size of the bond issue, and what they see as realistic. She would like to include, with everyone's agreement, a possible five minutes for at least one of the members of the committee to address that particular issue. It was agreed. Approved City Council Minutes Page 9 September 26, 1995 Councilmember Petruzzi explained that the reason Council was discussion the location of fire administration was that it makes a difference of about half a million dollars. In regard to direction, Council has given direction on this issue. They gave direction on July 25 and it included a dollar amount of $7 million. If there is a motion by the Council to change that dollar amount, that motion could be made, but direction has been given. Reading from the July 25 minutes, Council President Petruzzi quoted: "Mr. Mar further stated that using the Council -generated document as a starting point for program area and cost calculation methodology, the cost estimate to construct the stated amount of the program areas was $8.4 million." Tonight Council has heard a range of $8.6 to $9.3 million. Mr. Petruzzi then asked Chief Miller about the $200,000 per year he had mentioned previously that the City was using to house people in other facilities. If, in this proposal, we have our own holding cells, what is the additional operating cost would be for those holding cells. He was trying to figure out if the City would save $200,000 or simply shift it as an expense or if it would actually increase the expense to have the holding cells. Chief Miller indicated that if the City operated just a 72-hour holding facility which is far short of what Lynnwood and the County are, we would save conservatively $60,000. It does not require additional staff to monitor; that can be done with the existing staff through CCT and sound - sight monitoring systems and having patrol staff check on them for their welfare as well as providing meals. Council President Petruzzi confirmed that would save $60,000 of the $200,000. Mr. Petruzzi further confirmed that Mr. Mar will have the archiitects look into how to cluster items; how to build what we need, and come in more closely to the budget that is set by the Council. Mr. Mar indicated that was the intent all along. Mr. Mar commented that the increase in the amount of funds needed is due to inflation over time. What Arai -Jackson did was look at when we were going to out for the bond issue, what had to be done in terms of doing the design after the bond issue passed, and a realistic construction time. What they have come up with is that the program need of 34,000 translates to a building need of 44,000, assuming a January 1997 start date which is 18 months farther along than today, and the $9.3 million is their cost estimate. Councilmember Myers asked how the relocation costs of moving these facilities out would be handled. Mr. Mar clarified that Mr. Myers was concerned with housing while construction was going on. Mr. Mar said that depends upon what the solution is going to be. If the solution is going to be the home that they are in right now stays standing until they get the new facility, then there is minimal relocation costs. If the home that they are staying in now has to go in order to build the new one, there will be relocation costs. Since it is not yet determined what that answer is, the amount cannot be determined. Mr. Mar, reporting from the meeting of the 20th, stated two questions came from the committee: (1) how was the $7 million cap determined, and (2) how are the other public safety needs going to be addressed? From the committee's perspective the Civic Center is the major component, but there are other public safety needs that must be met. Dave Page, 1233 Olympic View Drive, Edmonds, is the Finance Chairman of the ad hoc committee, along with Mr. Ray Albano. He said they want to make it clear that, from their perspective and the work they have done, that the Council has been great stewards of the City's money and noted the agonizing that all have done in getting to where we are. They know Council is doing the very best they can with the resources allocated. Their point at this stage is that there are two things they would like to recommend from the Finance Committee -- (1) do a neutral survey of what the people in this town will support. The Finance Committee has determined that about $39 per household per year in increased taxes will support everything that Arai -Jackson said would give us the facility that Council said it wanted plus some of the things on perhaps a wish list. They believe the public will go for $39 per year if sold correctly. They believe they can get the $39 which would be about $12 million. That would cover a wish list containing a training center for the fire department that has been discussed. Council President Petruzzi questioned Mr. Page on his comment that Council had given direction on what was to be built, when Council had not. The information given so far has been Staff driven. Mr. Approved City Council Minutes Page 10 September 26, 1995 Petruzzi expressed Council concern that it has to live in the world of reality with regard to what has been happening with bond issues. Mr. Page thinks public safety in this town is a very hot issue, especially to senior citizens, and said that anyone over 50 would vote for it in a minute. He suggested maybe the survey would answer the question. Mayor Hall responded we have buildings that are actually crumbling. These buildings were built in 1962, they have not been maintained properly, and that has been down through the years for thirty -some years. Also, we are looking at growth patterns, and we have to take the bull by the horns now while the buildings are not up to code, we have to plan at the same time for the growth factor, and it is good stewardship to look ahead and be visionary. Mayor Hall agreed with Mr. Page that with the educational process, with the demographics of our society knowing that their public safety facilities are in jeopardy, and the seismic concerns of the safety of our buildings, she has no hesitation going before the public and to say this is what we need. It is not gold plated, but it is certainly sturdy and substantial and provides for growth and the services that the citizens deserve. We need the commitment for new public safety facilities. Council President Petruzzi thinks the entire City Council agrees that we need a new public safety building as they have been talking about it for years. Right now we are not talking about the need but the extent of what we want to put into place. There is a big difference between $7 million and $12 million. In February we talked about buying the Financial Center, we talked about what we could put in it, and those dynamics now seem to have changed. Shortly thereafter there was an earthquake and one of our buildings was damaged rather severely so that we immediately took our firemen out of the building. We were told you could replace the entire building for $250,000. Then we were told it made good sense to buy a fire station in Esperance for $1 million. We had a good negotiator that we hired who negotiated the contract, and for a little over $1 million we got the equipment, the land, the fire station built in 1991. We have a fire engine that we have been told for four years needs to be replaced in 1999. Then in July we are told the Public Safety Building could not be built for less than $8.5 million, plus $1 million is needed for a fire engine -- the one that for four years Council has been told does not need to be replaced until 1999. Then Council is to support a $2 million training center. Next, Council is requested to buy a $2 million piece of property on Aurora and put a $2 million fire department on top of it. Quite frankly, the input Council is getting just doesn't equate and doesn't fall in line. We are told different things at different times as short as a couple of months. Tom Farr, 21011 - 88th Place West, Edmonds, said he appreciated the opportunity of being on the citizens committee. He said they are in the early stages of organization and have talked about things that they are not going to do and that is design this project. Their mission is to facilitate and inform the citizens in the community of the need of this public safety. He reiterated Mr. Page's comment that they will work very hard to get this passed. He said one of the things needed was Council direction. He thinks the thought of doing a poll is right on and would be more than happy to help facilitate that to maybe raise some money to help support that kind of a thing. They would like to get going and shoot for that February time frame. They won't know what the November vote number is, there are different ways to finance this that a lot of committee members do not understand, but they're getting ready to help. The committee is ready to go once it gets some direction. Ray Albano of the ad hoc committee indicated that somewhere between $7 million and what Mr. Page was discussing is the figure that we need. He said they can sell a bond issue. The committee does not want to tell Council what to do but are making suggestions. The ultimate decision is up to Council as elected officials. What Mr. Albano wants is for Council to tell them how much it wants them to tell people is needed. He is not interested in trying to sell a bond issue of an unknown amount. If Council wants $7 million and can justify it, fine. At Mayor Hall 's request, Mr. Mar announced the next meeting of the ad hoc committee is Thursday, October 5, and that it is to begin at 1:30. Councilmember Fahey brought up the issue that deals with the church and whether the church is going to stay, be moved, or what. She asked if it would be helpful to at least get some kind of direction at this point as to what would be a realistic approach on that. She noted she has her own opinion as do other Council members. When talking about moving it, we are talking about needing to purchase property Approved City Council Minutes Page I I September 26, 1995 onto which to move it which would add an additional cost. We are talking about the costs of actually moving it and then probably restoring it after that. She tends to think that at the very least the church, if possible, ought to stay there and ultimately be a facility that could be used for meetings or receptions or whatever, but that it isn't factored into any of the costs right now. This might be one tiny piece of a resolution so that Arai -Jackson doesn't have to keep bouncing it around. Mr. Mar said the church is about a 2,100 square foot building. There was a study done earlier on ADA requirements and on structural and other requirements, and his recollection is that that number was around $100,000 to upgrade it just to meet those needs. That is not a functional fix. Whatever is housed in there, you would have to renovate to meet the functional needs. To try to answer her question, Mr. Mar stated that in looking at what was discussed last week at the committee meeting, he thinks that the least cost approach might be to leave the church in its current location, not use it to meet any of the needs we are talking about for public safety or non-public safety portion, and just reserve the right at some point in time to move it if there are dollars there, or if there is another source of funding to do that. He feels that in terms of a future use of it for a public need, there is a significant cost of upgrading that building. Ms. Fahey discounted using the church for anything related to public safety needs and stated that it seems it might be one thing Council could take off the table. We either have to decide whether we are going to demolish it in order to provide more usable space on the campus to build whatever is being built, and Arai -Jackson would need to know that before they did a plan. Mr. Mar suggested the next step would be to take the space program, do some conceptual site layouts of it leaving the church in its place, and if in their professional opinion in doing that it is an "impediment functionally" to the operation of the public safety portion of the campus, or connecting between the two major components of the downtown campus, that it be addressed at that point. Mayor Hall said from the very beginning the church was going to be moved. It has not been a big factor in the overall plan. Councilmember Kasper said their motion stated at the retreat was to clear the site. He was against it but was the only one. 6. RECOMMENDATIONS ON MAIN STREEVANDERSON CENTER TRAFFIC SAFETY ArD�RS CONCERNS �dff,G Police Chief Tom Miller introduced the subject by saying this matter dealt with the traffic and safety fi 0fi concerns in front of the Anderson Center. They have met on two occasions with the Public Safety SRF Committee to discuss options and phase -in possibilities. Sgt. Marsh and Gordy Hyde from Engineering have worked out a plan that is endorsed by Mr. Earling and Mr. Hall with regard to a pedestrian safety zone. Councilmember Fahey asked if there had been any thought given to reducing the speed limit in that area also or whether that was implicit in the cross -striping. Police Sgt. Mark Marsh indicated that is one of the options that had been considered but not specifically addressed in this proposal because they had skirted over it in talking with Councilmembers Hall and Earling. However, he and Mr. Hyde would certainly endorse doing that in the same manner as a school zone where it would be posted for the specific hours of operation and specifically for safety and enforcement concerns. They are trying to minimize the overall cost of the project. Councilmember Fahey confirmed it was not a recommended course of action right now. Sgt. Marsh indicated they wanted to do this in a stair -step approach to try the best possible solution at this point and monitor that over a specific period of time, and if they didn't get the needed result, then that would be an option they would look at down the line which could be very easily implemented. Councilmember Fahey was further provided with the definition of a rumble strip and a clarification of cross -marking. COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER FAHEY, FOR THE RECOMMENDED ACTION: THE DESIGNATION OF A "PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ZONE". THIS ZONE WOULD EXTEND FROM 8TH AVE. TO 6TH AVE. ON MAIN STREET AND DAYTON STREET_ THE ZONE WOULD BE DESIGNATED BY POSTED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ZONE AHEAD SIGNS, ALONG WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ZONE SIGNS TO SHOW THE Approved City Council Minutes Page 12 September 26, 1995 START OF THE ZONE. FLASHING AMBER LIGHTS WOULD BE USED AT THIS SAME LOCATION TO ENHANCE THE MOTORIST AWARENESS OF THE ZONE. ADDITIONALLY, RUMBLE STRIPS MAY BE USED TO AID IN THE WARNING. "END OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ZONE" SIGNS WILL ALSO BE USED TO AID THE MOTORING PUBLIC. MOTION CARRIED. 7. UPDATE BY COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR PAUL MAR REGARDING MW�RU TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AND FUNDING FOR THE MULTIMODAL PROJECT PRp Community Services Director Paul Mar stated that on September 20, 1995, there was a community leader's meeting to talk about two transportation projects in the city. One was the Edmonds crossing or the multimodal transportation project, and the second project was the overhead loading project which will happen down at the existing ferry terminal. There were about 30 people in attendance including Mayor Hall and Councilmember Kasper. The Edmonds crossing project was presented by Mr. Mar and Jerry Weed, Project Manager from CH2M Hill, the consultant team. At the July oversight committee meeting, there was a Phase I that cost in excess of $55 million which didn't solve the functional needs of the ferry system. It didn't solve getting much of the traffic off the highway from the City's perspective, and Mr. Mar thinks that overall at that meeting it was felt that the consulting team ought to go back and rework it. In the last two months it has been reworked. Mr. Mar utilized a drawing to show what is being proposed at this time. The solution proposed for Phase I is to have the transportation center at Pt. Edwards, with two ferry slips. They would essentially build from the railroad track out to the terminal; they would have a floating breakwater that would be constructed from surplus pontoons of the Hood Canal Bridge which are currently stored off of Point Gamble. They have permission to use those. It is proposed to use the existing UNOCAL road approach off of 104; they haven't resolved the intersection issues as yet, but this conceptually would use that road so that they would not have to construct any new road and use the currently paved lower yard for parking. They would then build what they have termed a. throw -away approach up to the overpass to get to the ferry terminal. In terms of getting walk-on passengers to either the park and ride or automobiles, they would use something like buses that would not have to be turned around to go back and forth. Their first blush cost estimate on this is in the mid -forty millions, but they have been advised we would like to bring them down to below $40 million in terms of being fundable. There will be a technical meeting next Friday, October 6. At the same meeting Ted Bell, Jr. from the Washington State Ferry System and the architect presented the conceptual drawings of the overhead loading project. Next Wednesday evening they will be presenting this for preliminary review to the Architectural Design Board. Councilmember Nordquist asked if this scheme is not the same plan as over in Kingston. Mr. Mar said it was not and that it will not be totally enclosed like the one in Kingston, and it doesn't move. This one would probably have a shelter over the top but would not be enclosed, at least initially. Mr. Mar thinks one of the things they are looking for is input from the ADB and whatever the public comes in with in terms of reactions to that. One of the items being proposed as shown in the diagram is that on WSDOT property at Main Street there will be, before you enter into the controlled area through the toll booths, public restrooms. Those public restrooms then could be used by the public as well as by the ferry commuters. Councilmember Kasper asked about the height of these different structure sections. He called Council attention to some of the listed heights as shown on Alternative 1. The elevation of the cylinders where the bridge meets or makes a turn is 35' at the deck so would be between 9 and 10' higher than that at those points. When it turns, again at the elevation of the bridge, it goes up close to 45'. Going to the other drawing, Mr. Kasper's concern was about the city's property going right up to the wall (second page on Alternative 1). It shows the elevation of that station in the middle of the square on the South side of the ferry dock. The committee was assured they would stay within the tower height which is 47.55' Approved City Council Minutes Page 13 September 26, 1995 except for the hydraulic section. Where the walkway turns is the hydraulic section which shows an elevation of 35'. The problem is that this thing is coming out approximately 60-62' perpendicular to where the tower is to the South, so that is how far that will be into our property on the West. Most of our view is more to the Northwest and Southwest where it looks across. Mr. Mar confirmed that by "our property" Mr. Kasper was referring to Anderson Center Park and noted that our property line is the inner harbor line Mr. Kasper's point is that it isn't on our property, but it obstructs our property to the true West. If you go at the angle of the ferry dock, as built now, you get to a point where it won't be much of an obstruction. He went on to explain what portions of the view might be obstructed. Councilmember Hall indicated that that is something to think about because if indeed this is coming South, and we are trying to develop a park, they may put the thing right in front of the park where we may not even be able to see Kingston. Councilmember Kasper said that was the concern about Brackett's Landing when it first started in 1986 and they started to build the tower on the other side. Fortunately, that 500' only blocked Mt. Rainier from dock level, and there are no parks there. If you can't have a view at a waterfront park, you are in trouble. 8. MAYOR R� Mayor Hall asked Mr. Mar to address the special meeting tomorrow at 5:45 p.m. in the Community Services meeting room regarding the interviews for the consultants for the Financial Building. Packets were handed out by City Clerk Sandy Chase. Mr. Mar said what is being passed out to everyone is submittals from the four finalist firms for tomorrow night's interviews. The first interview is at 5:45. �w1 Mr. Mar noted there were requests from 48 firms, we received 13 submittals, and Councilmembers Myers and Nordquist and Mr. Mar met last Friday and came up with a short list. He faxed a notification to all of the firms and invited all four firms to come out on Monday to tour the bulding. that were short- listed. 9. INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL REPORTS/UPDATES ON RESPECTIVE BOARD MEETINGS Student Representative Emily Shen advised that she will be presenting a report of her activities with the Council to her school, probably in the next week. She also stated that as an ASB Vice President watching Council's procedures and the way it gets citizens involved has been very helpful in figuring out policies for her school and its government. Councilmember Fahey reported as part of her Cascade Board duties, she attended a meeting of the D6 oversight committee for the multipurpose facility being proposed for South County. It looks like the CASIA contract will be finalized with the County for the $200,000 grant that has been approved, and they will be �WAD going out with an RFP as soon as that happens (anticipated to be in the next two or three weeks). It is anticipated a consultant will be on board within about a month to six weeks to start the process to determine what would be the most feasible kind of facility to build in South Snohomish County and fo where. ich she serves the nds iii monthlymeting. committee Hall joined lthm, and there were someinteresting Visitors disccussions about some of vg• Y j � $u4� the products that the EVB creates to attract tourists. Councilmember Myers expressed a concern that several residents of the Edmonds area and specifically parents of students at Edmonds-Woodway High School contacted him to ascertain whether, in fact, a �anor��Y police officer would be placed in the building this year. Mayor Hall advised she had met with Mr. Weiss and got the plan clarified. There will be a policeman in the school, to be funded from COPS FAST boy/ money. Chief Miller said Officer Bonello will be there full time as a school resource officer sometime between October 1-16, depending upon when an injured officer returns to duty. G �0 F� Councilmember Fahey further reported on the Greater Edmonds Advancement Team (GREAT) even though it is part of community service and is not an official committee. GREAT had another comprehensive meeting on the 14th which was well attended by citizens and a good cross-section of the �sAEAr retail businesses. They are moving forward and anticipate having a draft plan proposal for a strategic Approved City Council Minutes Page 14 September 26, 1995 plan for economic development put together within the next month. The next meeting is October 12 , and she advised that all are welcome to attend. eRLtN Councilmember Hall reminded everyone of the mortgage burning party for the Snohomish County `,snq,at Health District on September 29 at 6:00 p.m. at the Rucker Building. Councilmember Hall further reported that he had joined the prestigious ranks of Alumnus of the Year, along with Chief Springer, for Edmonds-Woodway High School and will be attending Homecoming this Friday. Councilmember Earling reported that most of his report on CT will be heard next week with the six -year Codt�u""y plan being brought forward. He advised that it highlights dramatic increases in services including a new 04145' emphasis in corridors to try to more efficiently move people, and also the opening of some new markets to the East side of the Bothell -Everett Highway. Also, other projects Council might be interested in include working on the expansion of the Paine Field. Of local interest, there is a transit center located at Edmonds Community College under construction which should be completed sometime in the first part of October. Many of the lines that come through Edmonds actually come back up to Edmonds Community College as connector for other lines. Regarding the RTA, last Thursday there was a public forum at the Seattle Center at which there were over 40 groups who testified with recommendations for the next transit deliberation for the RTA plan that will be brought forward next year. The board now is 40 trying to decide whether or not we should go forward to ballot under our current legislation which is to take care of high -capacity transit issues, or to go back to the legislature and try to get expanded authority to do other things such as road improvements. There is some strong sentiment to take a look at that. Finally, Councilmember Earling acknowledged that many of the Council members have attended over the last several months Snohomish County Roundtables at which the three Snohomish County delegates have asked for participation. It has helped a great deal in trying to establish, and re-establish, priorities for the next transportation plan. He thinks you will begin in the next four to six weeks to see a new plan start to surface, with a lot of ideas being floated about on what the next RTA ballot proposal might be. He thinks the ballot proposal at this time probably will go forward next year in May, or if they can get some consideration from the legislature, perhaps next November. He thinks 1996 will be the next opportunity to vote on a regional transportation plan. Council President Petruzzi reported that at the recent SnoComm/Medic 7 board meeting they approved Ifoeve the final 1996 budget for the 911 communications, police dispatching, fire dispatching, aid and medical dispatching. The total budget for SnoComm in 1996 is $1,496,000. Edmonds' share is $331,000 which is an increase of $30,000 over last year. They also had the budget for Medic 7. The budget that was approved was a total of $1,315,000, $299,000 of which is allocated to the City of Edmonds. That is an increase of $14,000. There is one thing that was left unbudgeted that will impact Edmonds in 1995. The Board has determined that here is a definite need for increasing the second Medic 7 from 12-hour coverage to 24-hour coverage. There are a number of things at which the Board will be looking. The technical committee came to the Board and said that there is a good possibility that we could get into interlocal agreements with the various different fire districts and would be able to use their aid cars. These have the same quality as Medic 7 people. If we are able to implement that in 1996, we would implement it in the second half of the year, so there would be an additional $32,000 that would be added to the budget, not to Edmonds, but to the entire budget. It is about a $64,000 per year cost. If we do determine that is not feasible and go take our own Medic 7 and take it to 24-hours, that will cost an additional $256,000. The determination of the need is there; there are too many calls that Medic 7 simply cannot respond to, and they don't feel it appropriate to leave it that way. Councilmember Nordquist welcomed the newly annexed areas. He said Council had listened to them make tions, and hinks Council should �to)L60 come forward 03 organization and time spent and want tthem to feel ha tart of the family now. compliment are other areas that heir AR�� would like to annex. He asked Mayor Hall for a point of contact. Mayor Hall indicated they should contact her office or that of Jeff Wilson. These approvals of these two annexations has certainly interested others in wanting to come forward and do the same thing. Lastly, he discussed the financial impact of a Major League baseball team and suggested Council send a letter advising the legislature that we would encourage the economic development of some kind of facility. It was acknowledged by other Council members to be a good idea, to be discussed more at next week's meeting. There being no further business to come before the Council, the meeting was adjourned at 9:49 p.m. Approved City Council Minutes Page 15 September 26, 1995 A M. ,AL , M YOR SAN"DR A S. C H A E, CITY CLERK AGENDA EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL PLAZA MEETING ROOM - LIBRARY BUILDING 650 MAIN STREET 7:00 -10:00 mm. SEPTEMBER 26, 1995 SPECIAL MEETING CALL TO ORDER - 7:00 P.M. FLAG SALUTE 1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 2. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS (A) ROLL CALL (B) APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 18, 1995 (C) APPROVAL OF CLAIM WARRANTS #3215S THRU #4136F FOR THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 18, 1995 IN THE AMOUNT OF $235,184.38; AND APPROVAL OF PAYROLL WARRANTS #955179 THRU #955487 FOR THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER 1 THRU SEPTEMBER 15, 1995 IN THE AMOUNT OF $399,499.96 (D) AUTHORIZATION FOR MAYOR TO SIGN NAME RIGHTS AND POSTER PUBLICATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN EDMONDS ARTS COMMISSION AND THE EDMONDS IN BLOOM ASSOCIATION (E) AUTHORIZATION FOR MAYOR TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE EDMONDS ARTS COMMISSION AND MAGICAL STRINGS FOR TWO PERFORMANCES - THE WINTER PERFORMING ARTS SERIES ($2,500) (F) AUTHORIZATION FOR CULTURAL ARTS COORDINATOR TO ATTEND OUT OF STATE TRAINING (G) PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING BOUNDARIES OF THREE HOUR PARKING ZONE WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT (H) PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 8.48 OF THE CITY CODE REGARDING PARKING AT THE FISHING PIER PARKING LOT 3. (5 Min.) INTRODUCTION OF NEW DIRECTOR OF CASCADE SYMPHONY 4. (10 Min.) HEARING ON A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF AN EXISTING MORATORIUM ON THE PERMITTING OR APPROVAL OF ANY ANTENNA OR TOWER STRUCTURE FOR THE USE IN CELLULAR TELEPHONE ACTIVITIES AND EXEMPTING ANY RECEIVING OR TRANSMITTING ANTENNA STRUCTURE REGULATED BY THE FCC AND WHICH THE CITY IS PREEMPTED FROM REGULATING, AND ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW 5. (60 Min.) DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC SAFETY SPACE NEEDS/FACILITY 6. (15 Min.) RECOMMENDATIONS ON MAIN STREET/ANDERSON CENTER TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS 7. (10 Min.) UPDATE BY COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR PAUL MAR REGARDING TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AND FUNDING FOR THE MULTIMODAL PROJECT -Continued- EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA SEPTEMBER 26, 1995 PAGE TWO 8. (5 Min) MAYOR 9. (15 Min.) INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL REPORTS/UPDATES ON RESPECTIVE BOARD MEETINGS 10. (15 Min.) 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