09/26/1995 City CouncilEDMONDS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 26, 1995
The special Edmonds City Council meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Laura Hall in the
Library Plaza Room, 650 Main Street, followed by the flag salute.
ELECTED OFFICIALS PRESENT
Laura Hall, Mayor
Tom Petruzzi, Council President
William J. Kasper, Councilmember
Michael Hall, Councilmember
Dave Earling, Councilmember
John Nordquist, Councilmember
Roger L. Myers, Councilmember
Barbara Fahey, Councilmember
ALSO PRESENT
Emily Shen, Student Representative
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
STAFF -PRESENT
Tom Miller, Police Chief
Michael Springer, Fire Chief
Paul Mar, Community Services Director
Art Housler, Administrative Services Director
Brent Hunter, Personnel Manager
Rob Chave, Planning Manager
Sgt. Mark Marsh, Police Department
Joan Ferebee, Court Administrator
Scott Snyder, City Attorney
Sandy Chase, City Clerk
Christine Laws, Recorder
COUNCIL PRESIDENT PETRUZZI MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST,
TO MOVE A 15 MINUTE EXECUTIVE SESSION ON A LEGAL MATTER FROM ITEM NO. 10 ON
THE AGENDA TO ITEM NO.3A. MOTION CARRIED.
COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MYERS, TO
APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED. MOTION CARRIED.
2. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
Councilmember Hall pulled Items D and G.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT PETRUZZI MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST,
TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The agenda
items passed are as follows:
(A) ROLL CALL
(B) APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 18, 1995
(C) APPROVAL OF CLAIM WARRANTS #3215S THRU #4136F FOR THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER
C�Ai�ll 18, 1995 IN THE AMOUNT OF $235,184.38; AND APPROVAL OF PAYROLL WARRANTS
�ARAgNf S #955179 THRU 4955487 FOR THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER 1 THRU SEPTEMBER 15, 1995 IN
THE AMOUNT OF $399,499.96
SIGN AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE EDMONDS
)C OoA'66AI95 (I-)AUTHORIZATION
OCOMMISS COMMISSIONFOR
MAG CALSTRINGS FOR TWO PERFORMANCES - THE WINTER
AA0 PERFORMING ARTS SERIES ($2,500)
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of p �10 4 (F) AUTHORIZATION FOR CULTURAL ARTS COORDINATOR TO ATTEND OUT OF STATE
,BRA TRAINING
psap- (H) ORDINANCE NO. 3041 AMENDING SECTION 8.48 OF THE CITY CODE REGARDING
F qt 116 PARKING AT THE FISHING PIER PARKING LOT.
Counciimember Hall disclosed he pulled Items D and G because he will be abstaining from voting on
them. Regarding Item D, his firm did some pro bono work for the Edmonds in Bloom project.
Regarding Item G, he was President of the Parking Committee.
COUNCILMEMBER MYERS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER FAHEY, TO
APPROVE ITEMS D AND G. MOTION CARRIED WITH COUNCILMEMBER HALL
ABSTAINING. The items passed are as follows: i
pMo� (D) AUTHORIZATION FOR MAYOR TO SIGN NAME RIGHTS AND POSTER
1,4 PUBLICATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN EDMONDS ARTS COMMISSION AND THE
EDMONDS IN BLOOM ASSOCIATION
3,q,gPX (G) ORDINANCE NO. 3042 AMENDING BOUNDARIES OF THE THREE HOUR PARKING
.PMX1 ZONE WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
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3. INTRODUCTION OF NEW DIRECTOR OF CASCADE SYMPHONY
Mayor Hall announced the intention to introduce the new Conductor/Director of the Cascade
lam' Al Symphony. She then asked Cascade Symphony Board of Directors President Cami Smith and new
4100 Musical Director Gregory Sullivan Isaacs to come forward. Mayor Hall provided to Council the
personal history and credentials of the new president. Prior to introducing Mr. Isaacs, Mayor Hall
acknowledged and thanked Conductor/Maestro Emeritus Bob Anderson who for 34 years was the
Conductor/Director of the Cascade Symphony and Dennis Clark who serves on the Cascade Symphony
Board.
As a member of the Cascade Symphony Honorary Board, it was Mayor Hall's pleasure to introduce Mr.
Gregory Sullivan Isaacs, the new Conductor and Musical Director of the Cascade Symphony Orchestra.
Maestro Isaacs is nationally renowned as a conductor, composer, and performer, having spent the last 16
years as musical director for orchestras and operas in the Chicago and Los Angeles areas. He is an
accomplished pianist, violinist, lyric tenor and author.
Maestro Isaacs expressed his pride in being in Edmonds. He invited all to come hear the Symphony,
support it with season tickets and invite friends and neighbors to attend. The first performance is
October 23.
�y6 3A. EXECUTIVE SESSION ON LEGAL MATTER
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S&'S�a At 7:13 Council recessed to an Executive Session on a legal matter. The meeting was reconvened at
7:32.
4. HEARING ON A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF
AN EXISTING MORATORIUM ON THE PERMITTING OR APPROVAL OF ANY ANTENNA
OR TOWER STRUCTURE FOR THE USE IN CELLULAR TELEPHONE ACTIVITIES AND
6►��a EXEMPTING ANY RECEIVING OR TRANSMITTING ANTENNA STRUCTURE REGULATED
�o ER M BY THE FCC AND WHICH THE CITY IS PREEMPTOR FROM REGULATING, AND
A�R1r1 ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
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Planning Director Rob Chave asked for a six-month extension of the present moratorium. Staff has
been working diligently with the ad hoc advisory committee and expects to be back before Council with
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a product in six weeks. This extension will allow them time to get this work completed. It would also
provide time for any code changes that may result.
The public portion of the hearing was opened, and after ascertaining there were no speakers wishing to
be heard, was closed.
COUNCILMEMBER EARLING MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MYERS, TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 3043 EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM FOR AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS.
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Chave reported that the State has generated a lot of interest in this ordinance and would like to
distribute the draft, upon completion, around the state as a model ordinance that other jurisdictions are
finding very useful in their work on cell towers. What Edmonds is working on will apparently be the
model that the State is looking to adopt.
City Attorney Scott Snyder left the meeting at this time.
5. DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC SAFETY SPACE NEEDS/FACILITY
Pu r�fl Mayor Hall reminded Council and the audience that over time the City of Edmonds has grown quite a
i6A bit since George Brackett in 1870 bought 147 acres on the waterfront and claimed them for the City of
5f A S Edmonds. We are going into the phase mode now of public safety needs. We have built over the years a
rI00 new City Hall in 1962; a Public Works facility in 1967, this library and Council Chambers in 1982; the
Wastewater Treatment Plant in 1991; and the new Public Works facility was completed in 1994, on time
and under budget. We have purchased the Financial Building, and now we come to the Public Safety
facility. Mayor Hall emphasized that this should not be treated as left over -- this is a dynamic element
of our community which must stand alone. It is our emergency and our safety housing that is so
imperative that we deal with now. Mayor Hall announced that she has appointed a citizens ad hoc
committee, and acknowledged those in the audience: Tom Farr, Chuck Cain, Ray Albano, Dan Prinz,
Betty Mueller, and Dave Page. She expressed thanks to all these busy people for their assistance in
getting the facility built. She then turned the discussion over to Paul Mar.
Councilmember Kasper noted that he had requested a copy of the July 25, 1995 Council minutes for each
Council member in case there was any misconception of the last decision -making process. Mr. Mar
handed copies to the Council members for their notebooks.
Community Services Director Paul Mar reiterated that the citizens committee has been formed. They
have met five times, two times without the consultants Arai -Jackson, and three meetings with Arai -
Jackson. He stated his desire to bring all of the Council up-to-date and acknowledged that several
Council members have partaken in the work sessions of the committee. He used the overhead projector
to go over the information that has been prepared as a lead-in to Council discussion. He stated that
while the minutes of the September 20 meeting had not yet been completed, he would recap as best as he
could what had transpired at that meeting.
In terms of looking at the issue, the questions in terms of public safety capital space needs are: (1) What
are the needs? (2) How much will it cost? and (3) How will it be funded?
That is the issue that Administration, Council and this committee have been charged with in terms of
looking at the public safety needs. In terms of the public safety space and capital needs that have been
identified, they basically fall within these categories: at the Civic Center, replacement of a police
function that is there now, municipal court, fire administration, and Fire Station No. 7. In addition, other
capital needs have been identified, and those were discussed by Council on July 25 and other settings:
Fire Station No. 6, a fire training center, and fire apparatus. As indicated in the packet, by far the largest
component both in terms of size and cost is the Civic Center complex. In terms of looking at what the
focus of the scope of work of each of the entities that have worked on this, Administration has been
looking at how to meet these needs for a number of years. The most recent activity began in late 1992
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and is still going on to date. The City Council has looked at it in terms of looking at what is within its
scope; there has been identification that all of these are important needs. The citizens committee has also
embraced it and says all the public safety and capital needs are there. In the amendment to the Arai -
Jackson contract, their focus was on the Civic Center with the site adaptation of whatever we came up
with for Fire Station No. 7, for Fire Station No. 6, and neither the fire training center nor the fire
apparatus was part of their scope of work. One item that was brought up as far as the current site for Fire
Station No. 6 was the communication tower that currently sits on top of the fire station. That was
brought up in one of the committee meetings, and it an item Mr. Mar thinks is going to have to be part of
the answer as the City comes up with a solution.
At Council President Petruzzi's request, Mr. Mar explained that the tower atop Fire Station No. 6 houses
fire communication, police communication, and public works communication. Whatever the solution
that is reached with regard to Fire Station No. 6 has to take into consideration what happens to that
tower.
Mr. Mar reiterated that the committee has met five times. The initial meeting was on July 24. Another
meeting was held at Fire Station No. 6, and not all of the committee members could attend.
Accordingly, two additional meetings were held on August 3 and 4. The initial meeting of the. committee
with Arai -Jackson Architects was on August 23 and met again September 5 and September 20. The
minutes of those first two meetings are included in Council packets.
In terms of looking at the space needs for public safety, Staff has taken a two and a half year look at
these needs. This is contained in Exhibit 5 of the packets. The program space needs for municipal court,
police, fire administration, and Fire Station No. 7 are presented in detail. He showed the program space
needs in net square feet which is the program space which does not include corridors, hallways, wall
thickness, or anything. In applying grossing factors to get a buildable space, we come up with a need for
the program of 34,000-43,000 square feet. That is the need that has been identified by the staff.
Mr. Mar stated when we first met with Arai -Jackson in terms of looking at their scope of work, we
identified several tasks for them to do. One was to validate the space needs, the second one was to look
at these grossing factors to see if they were appropriate, and to explore space -sharing opportunities. We
have reduced the program needs back from early 1993. Basically, Arai -Jackson agreed with us. They
said what our program looks like is reasonable and works. They had a little concern with some of Mr.
Mar's grossing factors used, in particular for fire administration and Fire Station No. 7. Their gross
square footage is close to what we have, so in terms of the initial look at the program, based on the
numbers, they did verify our program which was the baseline that we wanted them to have in starting out
with their work with us. Looking at those space needs, they gave an initial cost estimate on September 5
that for that program to be built at the Civic Center site, including demolition and site preparation work,
in 1995 dollars was around $8.6 million and escalated to a January 1997 start date at about $9.3 million.
The committee was advised of this on September 5. As a result of that meeting, one of the tasks Arai -
Jackson was to do was to look at non -programmatic and programmatic ways to reduce the scope of the
budget -- reduce the scope of the project, therefore reducing the cost. In Exhibit 9 there are some
discussions of the non -programmatic ideas for reducing the cost of the budget by reducing the amount of
site area that would be covered. In terms of what they presented on the 20th, the number for savings was
approximately half a million dollars in site work (if they did not use the vacated Edmonds Street nor the
parcel to the North of Edmonds Street, and if they did not remove the church from the southwest corner).
In terms of looking at the programmatic ideas, and again they did not have a chance to review this with
Staff, they came up with something that Mr. Mar in his discussions with the Directors and with the Court
Administrator thought unacceptable from an operational perspective.
Councilmember Earling asked if Mr. Mar could pick out two or three items and describe why they were
felt unacceptable. Councilmember Earling would like to better understand what problems exist. Mayor
Hall called upon Police Chief Miller and Fire Chief Springer to discuss the topic of one lobby.
Chief Springer asked to address the point on reducing the fire apparatuses. He had an illustrative
overhead showing the space needs of the fire apparatus. When they looked at the configuration of the
square footage, they were only looking at gross square footage needs. In a fire station, at the bay floor
area that houses the vehicles, we are looking at laws and regulations as to the size of our vehicles. That
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is why we asked for a specific dimension. For example, in the illustration which is not the largest unit,
by law you must have a clearance around the fire engine which is three feet.. Arai -Jackson was not
looking at their operational or true functional needs. That is just one example.
At Councilmember Earling's request, Mayor Hall asked if they could go back to the common entry area.
Chief Springer stated that the configuration is shown with a single entry between the two facilities, and
they are looking at the fire side as being a totally separate building for its functional needs. By design,
that would eliminate a single public entry.
Chief Miller commented that presently, we have a shared lobby and a shared. conference room, and they
don't work. Chief Miller can't understand why we would want to replicate that process in a new building.
He feels this set up is confusing to the citizens, and it is not effective for us to deal with people that way,
especially when the phones are ringing and we are trying to deal with victims of crimes at the front
counter. With regard to the combined conference areas for joint use -- we have multiple conflicts with
our current shared conference room. With regard to a joint use of exercise areas -- police and fire are
unique because of the different work schedules; fire staff work a 24-on and 24-off schedule, but police
work 8-hour shifts. Chief Miller believes it can be found that there are conflicts in the ability to use
equipment. Therefore, staff are not staying at their maximum physical shape. Regarding single public
restrooms for buildings -- he believes that we are doing that right now, and it is inadequate.
Councilmember Earling indicated most of the answers were certainly acceptable. The one he doesn't
quite understand is the entryway and how, with proper signage and having Staff indicate how people
could get from one line to another, would go a long ways to addressing that issue. It seems to be more of
how to address the public than a space need. He acknowledged that it was not very much square footage,
but it seemed to him that with the proper signage it could be done. The other issues described he can
understand, but the entryway falls short.
Council President Petruzzi has difficulty on the entryway, but also has difficulty on the conference
rooms. That is a standard operating procedure in companies. They share conference rooms. You have
log books for conference rooms, you set an appointment for a conference room, and it is not a big deal.
If you have sufficient conference space, why couldn't two departments work around the meetings?
Mayor Hall said that was going on now and was unsatisfactory.
Councilmember Hall feels one of the first issues regarding the joint entryway is a function of the
building itself. If you are going to have enough space for each department, you will probably have them
at opposite ends of the building. It would be impractical to have the combined entry space. That is
probably the main concern. He doesn't see that there is a problem with sharing conference spaces. He
thinks what they are telling Council is that we don't have enough conference space, so the fact that we
are just replicating what we have now is unacceptable. Whether we share it or not, more of it is needed.
Council President Petruzzi asked if we followed this program if we would be replicating the same square
footage of conference rooms. Chief Miller indicated that sharing one conference room replicates the
current problem. He wants to address that because he does not want to frustrate the process, but this is a
fundamental issue from his point of view. He doesn't want to replicate the problems that we have now.
He knows the same issue exists in fire as it does in police, and that is that we have an accreditation
process that mandates a specific number of hours of in-service training for our employees as well as roll
call training, and if we don't complete that because of unavailability of conference rooms, we may end up
not getting some employees the minimum amount of training which would jeopardize our accreditation.
It is a concern that has a domino effect through everything that we do. The problem they have now is
that even using a log book, they find that the week is booked.
Council President Petruzzi commented that in February of this year Chief Springer said he would
embrace the opportunity of putting his administration in the Financial Building. That was part of the
decision -making process when we bought the Financial Building. Now, fire administration wants to be
put in the fire station. If you go into the administration building, you will see a savings of 2,531 square
gross feet at about $200 per foot Right now the 44,000 square feet is going to cost $8.6 -9.3 million. If
you were to put the fire administration in the Financial Center, then you could also solve the problem of
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having your own conference room there. So, we would still be down to one conference room. We have
the space in the Financial Center for the fire administration and for a conference room for fire
administration.
Chief Springer indicated that it was correct that previous statements had been made in that direction.
This evening he would like to discuss the true functional and operational needs, and keeping a fire
administration with the fire station is the most effective way of running the fire department. Mayor Hall
amplified that if the tone goes off, and we have fire personnel across the plaza, there could be running
and darting across streets and through traffic to get to the call as she understands it. We also have
vehicles that may be displaced over there. Council President Petruzzi expressed difficulty in
understanding why it was OK in February and it is not OK today. In regards to having the Chief and his
administration in the Financial Center, it is not like it is a long distance away; it is across the street. In
regard to having fire vehicles available, there are 78 parking spaces in the Financial Center.
Mr. Petruzzi next called attention to the suggestions of the kinds of functions that could be put into the
administration building instead of public safety. The courts archival storage, fire administration, and the
police training room add up to 4,000 square feet which is roughly an $800,000 savings.
Chief Miller said that the problem the court has now is storage. They are literally carrying boxes back
and forth between their administrative offices and the courtroom. What you are really doing by putting
archival storage across the street is forcing those employees to carry big, heavy boxes like they do now.
Regarding the placing the police training room at the administration building, he objected strenuously
because it would be a temporary fix. With future growth, there is going to be a need for more office
space, and the training room will likely be displaced.
Mayor Hall added that the question was "could fire administration exist in the other building; could the
court?" Yes, they could, but is it functionally sound, and she believes the answer to the question is no.
Councilmember Myers indicated he had sat through a lot of discussions when the Edmonds School
District was putting together their administrative center. Many of these same discussions were held
because they were talking about conference rooms, sharing conference rooms, etc., and it has proven to
be a very workable situation over there. Sometimes we are often more afraid of the unknown because we
are not sure what's there. The other point he wanted to address was the single public entry. There is
more than just saving square footage there, because single public entry means that the two buildings are
joined together; that means we would not have to replicate a lot of the HVAC equipment, heating, etc.
Instead of having two plants, we can have one source of that. All of that is going to cut down on the cost.
He agrees with Mr. Earling that with proper signage, going into a lobby and knowing which line to get
into is not that big of a problem. The single public restroom for the building, again, is a savings. No one
on this Council or in this city wants to make your job any more difficult than it is. We have a fixed
amount of money. Councilmember Myers also remembered several times asking about whether the fire
administration could be placed in the administration building, and it was enthusiastically addressed at
that time. Now he is a little discouraged that Council is hearing a different story. A lot of negotiations
went on with the Financial Center with that understanding.
Chief Miller responded to Councilmember Myers by saying that in the issue of the shared front lobby,
there is a need to understand there will be lines in there for people coming in to get fingerprinted, crime
victims coming in, and people coming in with questions or general information. They will be standing
two or three deep, and you will have someone who stands in line, not realizing they are in the wrong line
if they need to go down the hall or around the corner to pay a ticket or want to see the Fire Chief.
Regardless of the signage that you put, it must be understood that if you put the court, fire and police all
in the same front lobby, the clientele that are dealt with on the criminal side or courts is probably not the
same person that you want standing next to you if you were a crime victim that had just been assaulted.
That is a serious concern of Chief Miller -- putting victims and suspects within two or three feet of each
other, standing there. They are literally smelly often times, use foul language often times, and
sometimes get violent. He thinks we need to separate the court, police and fire to prevent that problem.
It is truly a matter of functionality. The other issue is a concern of the unknown with shared conference
rooms. In fact , it is just the opposite. It is known to us; it doesn't work. He again stated he could not
understand why we are trying to replicate what we have. To him it would be a tremendous disservice to
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seduce the public into thinking that with shared spaces and combining these functions we would be better
off. Chief Miller would rather go after a bond and have the public not pass a bond knowing at least that
it was an issue that would solve our problems and not seduce them into thinking this is going to work
when it's not. He understands there is a budget we need to work with and hopes the issue is left to the
voters to come up and say what they will and won't support.
Mr. Mar followed up by stating the next task that was on the Arai -Jackson menu was to take that
program and to lay spaces out. One of the charges was to look at whether they could co -locate
restrooms, could they arrange those entries so that functionality is met and in doing that was there a
possibility for savings. He is saying that perhaps there is a possibility to combine the entries and make it
functionally work so that you can separate who goes where. We don't know that answer right now
because the next step in their charge was to go in and do the layouts that was going to be part of the next
work session. In terms of that, this is not the final thing, but we need a starting point of the workable
space program. He thinks that is where we need to say "yes, this is it", and he thought at the 20th
meeting we were going to have that and give the consultants the charge to go to the next step.
Councilmember Nordquist stated that he disagrees with his colleagues. He thinks that the police
department should operate as a separate unit, considering violence issues today. We have had them
together too long; he believes we need to separate them, even at the front door, and the same thing with
the conference rooms. In visiting other cities, the fire department and police department are segregated
off. He recognized there is a budget, but said we have to give them some room.
Responding to Councilmember Myers, Mr. Mar clarified that what he said was that what Council has in
the packets is the space program. In police and fire there was a lobby programmed -- numbers. That is
in one dimension. Now, let's put in two dimensions and see what it looks like. Can you put the
restrooms so they are either back-to-back or together or somehow where you can save space. But, until
you get to the next step, he can't say "let's cut this out of here now". He doesn't think that is fair at this
point. Basically what we have is identification of functions needed to perform the duties for the courts,
for fire, and for police. Given that function, what is needed to serve that? All we are doing is listing
what we need based on comparable standards with other jurisdictions, and we came up with the program
needs of 34,021. Then we looked at what would be needed to build in terms of the walls and everything
else to accommodate that, and we came up with the 44,000 square feet. The next step is how you arrange
that on the civic center campus site so that (1) you meet all code requirements, and (2) satisfy all the
functional requirements of who sits next to whom and how they operate..
Council President Petruzzi asked if Mr. Mar was now suggesting that in the next phase that Arai -Jackson
will massage the plan and attempt to take some of this into consideration, such as an entryway. Mr. Mar
responded that his understanding from the scope of work was that the next step was to take the space
program and start to conceptually arrange the spaces, not draw each box, but simply arrange the spaces to
see how they would fit on the site. Mr. Petruzzi asked if Mr. Mar was saying that he would go down this
list with them. Mr. Mar said they would take the entire program and look at how things would be
arranged -- would you cluster all of your conference rooms together, and if you cluster all of your
conference rooms together, what kind of savings on space could you get. If you cluster the entries
together so that once you got in the door you would know you were in fire, police or the courts, but it
could be a common entry as you go through the door. Those are things he thinks takes an architect
planner and someone who does layouts.
Mayor Hall commented that Mr. Mar had said the key term --- conference rooms cluster and not a
conference room that is necessarily multipurpose. Mr. Mar then noted that we are constrained,
obviously, by the fact that with the civic center site we have height restriction, and we have the site
coverage issue. How do you arrange those spaces where it can be laid out? Mr. Mar thinks that is where
we are going with the next step.
Councilmember Petruzzi next questioned the issue of the archival storage. Court Administrator Joan
Ferebee came forward to respond to these concerns.
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Court Administrator Joan Ferebee said the archive storage in the court consists of cases that are
closed, but often it is necessary to retrieve those cases to pull out paperwork. It is required to keep those
cases for five years. She stated they are always going back and forth to the archive. Councilmember
Petruzzi asked whether or not it was a matter of carrying boxes back and forth, and Ms. Ferebee
indicated it was. Right now those boxes are in the court office, under desks, in the back room, outside
departments. What they do is stack them all in a box and carry it back to their department and file them
away. They do it constantly every day, three times a day.
Councilmember Fahey addressed comments Chief Miller. She asked when he was talking about the
different categories of people that would be utilizing the shared lobby, in her mind when she thinks of
going down to the police department, she is thinking of approaching the desk for getting a dog license or
filing an accident report, She does not think that even if she were going there for those kinds of "police
business" she would necessarily want to be approaching the same counter space as what he described as
doing fingerprinting and having people using foul language. She has never encountered that whenever
she has been down there. She thinks those types of activities and those types of people would be brought
into a separate area of the police department and not be utilizing the lobby and the central desk area that
is available for the general public. She is very confused with that expressed concern. Chief Miller
assured her those things do go on. People come to pay their fines with the court, and as is known that is
about ten feet to the left of the front lobby. They will walk in and think they need to pay their fine at the
police department; they will come in frequently irate and upset about the ticket; and they will be in line
with other people buying dog licenses without realizing they are in the wrong line. These irate people
are then directed to court. The Court Administrator has this week asked officers to come out and stand
by while these people are dealt with at her counter so no one is assaulted by these people.
Councilmember Fahey's suggested it was still an issue of signage and appropriate ways to send people to
the appropriate areas. In her opinion if you are talking about one building that houses all of these
facilities anyway, you are still going to have people coming in with a certain amount of confusion, and it
is going to require the appropriate signage. Chief Miller said his concern was commingling people who
are potentially violent with people there to buy a dog license or ask for help as a crime victim. That is
where the concern comes from in his point of view on sharing a common lobby whether it is the size they
have now or another 50 square feet, they are all in that same confined area.
Chief Springer interjected that right now in the shared entry there is an automatic blood pressure station.
There are many people that desire not to use that station there because of what Chief Miller described.
He confirmed that it is a hostile environment.
Councilmember Fahey next questioned Chief Springer regarding the location of fire administration. She
indicated this issue was from the first meeting on space needs and information given to Council on
August 28. The question was raised at that time of "Could fire administration be offset away from the
fire station. The answer is yes. Fire administration's key interactions are with the Building Department,
Police Department, Planning, and the Mayor." And that was the kind of information that was also given
Council at the retreat. Council got the clear impression that when looking at the people that are housed
in the administration and are talking about a fire marshal and a clerk and so on, that these people do not
necessarily have to be housed in conjunction with the fire station, that the kinds of services that they
provide more appropriately belong in the administrative side of our complex. It is hard for her to
envision most of the people that are described as at least being the staff people for administration being
the ones that are going to be exiting the building to respond to fires out there. The other issue is that if
administration is over in the Financial Center, it would seem to her that the fire station does not have that
much of the general public coming to them, they would be going to the fire administration desk and
getting the services they need there, and you wouldn't have as much "public" coming into contact with
the police over in that other facility.
Councilmember Hall remarked at the time Council was asking these questions as to whether these things
could be combined and whether or not fire administration could be located in the Financial Center, it was
up in the air as to whether we were even going to have a Financial Center or whether we were going to
have a campus. He would not want to penalize the fire department for coming forth and being at least
cooperative with us in answering those questions because we were feeling around as to whether or not
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we could do these things. Mr. Hall thinks that at this point we are focused on the actual Public Safety
Building and there are certain needs that they have come up with and certain concerns they have come up
with. He agreed with Mr. Mar that Council doesn't need to make some decisions at this point. He thinks
Council is focusing on something today that it really doesn't have to.
Councilmember Fahey asked Chief Springer to further explain why after Council had been told during
the course of the retreat that fire administration could be located in the Financial Center, that there has
been a change in the need for the location. She doesn't understand the justification, because she knows
Council was told that a lot of fire stations operate independently of administration and that there really
isn't any problem with administration being housed apart from Fire Station No. 7. She doesn't
understand the change in perspective on all of this. Chief Springer advised that from a functional
standpoint, the City of Edmonds Fire Department is a very small organization and all personnel respond
to emergency calls. They do not have the luxury of having a duty officer that would go between the fire
stations and go to the main use station. We coordinate out of Fire Station No. 7 with a line officer. That
is a direct link utilization of communication between fire administration all day long. The majority of
the work of the Fire Marshall is with Police and with the Building Department, two divisions. The
majority of work for a Fire Chief is between the Mayor, the Building Department, the Planning
Department, the Police Department and all the different areas of this city. The Assistant Fire Chief is in
a similar mode of coordinating on a daily basis with all divisions of the City. They have public
education, and they have further hazardous materials people that work with the different divisions. Yes,
statements were made that fire administration could relocate. That is very obvious, but this evening
Chief Springer would like to focus on the true operations and functions. The way the current
configuration is with the City, the Fire Chief responds immediately with the fire engines and the aid car
and is in constant communication with that fire officer that is at the fire station. Until we grow to a
larger organization, the number one priority would be, if you are asking about how our fire department
operates, is to have the fire administration with the fire station, and that would change in the future as our
organization grows.
Councilmember Kasper agreed with Councilmember Fahey. What Chief Springer is saying now is a
direct contradiction to what he said when we first discussed this. He pointed out there are fire stations
located all over. Mr. Kasper indicated the Fire Chief was considering a site as late as three weeks ago on
Casper and up on the hill. That would not have put fire administration in a fire station; it would have
been with other administrative offices. Therefore, he does not believe Chief Springer's arguments stand
up.
Mayor Hall reminded all that this was a discussion item. However, there is the ad hoc committee in
place awaiting some direction. February 6, 1996 is being considered as the date for a bond issue. She
asked for some direction and course of action that would give an idea to the committee as to a dollar
amount and to time. She acknowledged that Council was not ready to decide on a dollar amount tonight.
This discussion needs to lead to direction.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT PETRUZZI MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MYERS, TO
EXTEND THE DISCUSSION ANOTHER 10 MINUTES. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilmember Earling commented the confusing issue has been the perception at least that there have
been shifting priorities within some of the departments. As has been indicated previously, an uncertainty
as to where the administration for the fire department would be located, Council is now finding out that
instead of considering a fire station in the bowl area, there is shifting emphasis perhaps for up the hill,
acquiring new sites, putting in equipment, and Mr. Earling thinks those are all issues that the Council has
to address. Even if a dollar amount is not reached tonight, philosophically Council has to come to some
agreement as to how far we can expect to expand this package and have any hope of going back to the
citizens for their consideration on a ballot issue that they would consider realistic.
Councilmember Fahey stated at the space needs meeting last week, the citizens that are participating in
the committee asked if they could prevail upon Council to listen to their perspective for about five
minutes in terms of how they would like to approach the bond issue, the possible size of the bond issue,
and what they see as realistic. She would like to include, with everyone's agreement, a possible five
minutes for at least one of the members of the committee to address that particular issue. It was agreed.
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Councilmember Petruzzi explained that the reason Council was discussion the location of fire
administration was that it makes a difference of about half a million dollars. In regard to direction,
Council has given direction on this issue. They gave direction on July 25 and it included a dollar amount
of $7 million. If there is a motion by the Council to change that dollar amount, that motion could be
made, but direction has been given. Reading from the July 25 minutes, Council President Petruzzi
quoted: "Mr. Mar further stated that using the Council -generated document as a starting point for
program area and cost calculation methodology, the cost estimate to construct the stated amount of the
program areas was $8.4 million." Tonight Council has heard a range of $8.6 to $9.3 million.
Mr. Petruzzi then asked Chief Miller about the $200,000 per year he had mentioned previously that the
City was using to house people in other facilities. If, in this proposal, we have our own holding cells,
what is the additional operating cost would be for those holding cells. He was trying to figure out if the
City would save $200,000 or simply shift it as an expense or if it would actually increase the expense to
have the holding cells. Chief Miller indicated that if the City operated just a 72-hour holding facility
which is far short of what Lynnwood and the County are, we would save conservatively $60,000. It does
not require additional staff to monitor; that can be done with the existing staff through CCT and sound -
sight monitoring systems and having patrol staff check on them for their welfare as well as providing
meals. Council President Petruzzi confirmed that would save $60,000 of the $200,000.
Mr. Petruzzi further confirmed that Mr. Mar will have the archiitects look into how to cluster items; how
to build what we need, and come in more closely to the budget that is set by the Council. Mr. Mar
indicated that was the intent all along.
Mr. Mar commented that the increase in the amount of funds needed is due to inflation over time. What
Arai -Jackson did was look at when we were going to out for the bond issue, what had to be done in terms
of doing the design after the bond issue passed, and a realistic construction time. What they have come
up with is that the program need of 34,000 translates to a building need of 44,000, assuming a January
1997 start date which is 18 months farther along than today, and the $9.3 million is their cost estimate.
Councilmember Myers asked how the relocation costs of moving these facilities out would be handled.
Mr. Mar clarified that Mr. Myers was concerned with housing while construction was going on. Mr. Mar
said that depends upon what the solution is going to be. If the solution is going to be the home that they
are in right now stays standing until they get the new facility, then there is minimal relocation costs. If
the home that they are staying in now has to go in order to build the new one, there will be relocation
costs. Since it is not yet determined what that answer is, the amount cannot be determined.
Mr. Mar, reporting from the meeting of the 20th, stated two questions came from the committee: (1) how
was the $7 million cap determined, and (2) how are the other public safety needs going to be addressed?
From the committee's perspective the Civic Center is the major component, but there are other public
safety needs that must be met.
Dave Page, 1233 Olympic View Drive, Edmonds, is the Finance Chairman of the ad hoc committee,
along with Mr. Ray Albano. He said they want to make it clear that, from their perspective and the work
they have done, that the Council has been great stewards of the City's money and noted the agonizing
that all have done in getting to where we are. They know Council is doing the very best they can with
the resources allocated. Their point at this stage is that there are two things they would like to
recommend from the Finance Committee -- (1) do a neutral survey of what the people in this town will
support. The Finance Committee has determined that about $39 per household per year in increased
taxes will support everything that Arai -Jackson said would give us the facility that Council said it wanted
plus some of the things on perhaps a wish list. They believe the public will go for $39 per year if sold
correctly. They believe they can get the $39 which would be about $12 million. That would cover a
wish list containing a training center for the fire department that has been discussed.
Council President Petruzzi questioned Mr. Page on his comment that Council had given direction on
what was to be built, when Council had not. The information given so far has been Staff driven. Mr.
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Petruzzi expressed Council concern that it has to live in the world of reality with regard to what has been
happening with bond issues. Mr. Page thinks public safety in this town is a very hot issue, especially to
senior citizens, and said that anyone over 50 would vote for it in a minute. He suggested maybe the
survey would answer the question.
Mayor Hall responded we have buildings that are actually crumbling. These buildings were built in
1962, they have not been maintained properly, and that has been down through the years for thirty -some
years. Also, we are looking at growth patterns, and we have to take the bull by the horns now while the
buildings are not up to code, we have to plan at the same time for the growth factor, and it is good
stewardship to look ahead and be visionary. Mayor Hall agreed with Mr. Page that with the educational
process, with the demographics of our society knowing that their public safety facilities are in jeopardy,
and the seismic concerns of the safety of our buildings, she has no hesitation going before the public and
to say this is what we need. It is not gold plated, but it is certainly sturdy and substantial and provides
for growth and the services that the citizens deserve. We need the commitment for new public safety
facilities.
Council President Petruzzi thinks the entire City Council agrees that we need a new public safety
building as they have been talking about it for years. Right now we are not talking about the need but the
extent of what we want to put into place. There is a big difference between $7 million and $12 million.
In February we talked about buying the Financial Center, we talked about what we could put in it, and
those dynamics now seem to have changed. Shortly thereafter there was an earthquake and one of our
buildings was damaged rather severely so that we immediately took our firemen out of the building. We
were told you could replace the entire building for $250,000. Then we were told it made good sense to
buy a fire station in Esperance for $1 million. We had a good negotiator that we hired who negotiated
the contract, and for a little over $1 million we got the equipment, the land, the fire station built in 1991.
We have a fire engine that we have been told for four years needs to be replaced in 1999. Then in July
we are told the Public Safety Building could not be built for less than $8.5 million, plus $1 million is
needed for a fire engine -- the one that for four years Council has been told does not need to be replaced
until 1999. Then Council is to support a $2 million training center. Next, Council is requested to buy a
$2 million piece of property on Aurora and put a $2 million fire department on top of it. Quite frankly,
the input Council is getting just doesn't equate and doesn't fall in line. We are told different things at
different times as short as a couple of months.
Tom Farr, 21011 - 88th Place West, Edmonds, said he appreciated the opportunity of being on the
citizens committee. He said they are in the early stages of organization and have talked about things that
they are not going to do and that is design this project. Their mission is to facilitate and inform the
citizens in the community of the need of this public safety. He reiterated Mr. Page's comment that they
will work very hard to get this passed. He said one of the things needed was Council direction. He
thinks the thought of doing a poll is right on and would be more than happy to help facilitate that to
maybe raise some money to help support that kind of a thing. They would like to get going and shoot for
that February time frame. They won't know what the November vote number is, there are different ways
to finance this that a lot of committee members do not understand, but they're getting ready to help. The
committee is ready to go once it gets some direction.
Ray Albano of the ad hoc committee indicated that somewhere between $7 million and what Mr. Page
was discussing is the figure that we need. He said they can sell a bond issue. The committee does not
want to tell Council what to do but are making suggestions. The ultimate decision is up to Council as
elected officials. What Mr. Albano wants is for Council to tell them how much it wants them to tell
people is needed. He is not interested in trying to sell a bond issue of an unknown amount. If Council
wants $7 million and can justify it, fine.
At Mayor Hall 's request, Mr. Mar announced the next meeting of the ad hoc committee is Thursday,
October 5, and that it is to begin at 1:30.
Councilmember Fahey brought up the issue that deals with the church and whether the church is going to
stay, be moved, or what. She asked if it would be helpful to at least get some kind of direction at this
point as to what would be a realistic approach on that. She noted she has her own opinion as do other
Council members. When talking about moving it, we are talking about needing to purchase property
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onto which to move it which would add an additional cost. We are talking about the costs of actually
moving it and then probably restoring it after that. She tends to think that at the very least the church, if
possible, ought to stay there and ultimately be a facility that could be used for meetings or receptions or
whatever, but that it isn't factored into any of the costs right now. This might be one tiny piece of a
resolution so that Arai -Jackson doesn't have to keep bouncing it around. Mr. Mar said the church is
about a 2,100 square foot building. There was a study done earlier on ADA requirements and on
structural and other requirements, and his recollection is that that number was around $100,000 to
upgrade it just to meet those needs. That is not a functional fix. Whatever is housed in there, you would
have to renovate to meet the functional needs. To try to answer her question, Mr. Mar stated that in
looking at what was discussed last week at the committee meeting, he thinks that the least cost approach
might be to leave the church in its current location, not use it to meet any of the needs we are talking
about for public safety or non-public safety portion, and just reserve the right at some point in time to
move it if there are dollars there, or if there is another source of funding to do that. He feels that in terms
of a future use of it for a public need, there is a significant cost of upgrading that building.
Ms. Fahey discounted using the church for anything related to public safety needs and stated that it
seems it might be one thing Council could take off the table. We either have to decide whether we are
going to demolish it in order to provide more usable space on the campus to build whatever is being
built, and Arai -Jackson would need to know that before they did a plan. Mr. Mar suggested the next step
would be to take the space program, do some conceptual site layouts of it leaving the church in its place,
and if in their professional opinion in doing that it is an "impediment functionally" to the operation of the
public safety portion of the campus, or connecting between the two major components of the downtown
campus, that it be addressed at that point.
Mayor Hall said from the very beginning the church was going to be moved. It has not been a big factor
in the overall plan.
Councilmember Kasper said their motion stated at the retreat was to clear the site. He was against it but
was the only one.
6. RECOMMENDATIONS ON MAIN STREEVANDERSON CENTER TRAFFIC SAFETY
ArD�RS CONCERNS
�dff,G Police Chief Tom Miller introduced the subject by saying this matter dealt with the traffic and safety
fi 0fi concerns in front of the Anderson Center. They have met on two occasions with the Public Safety
SRF Committee to discuss options and phase -in possibilities. Sgt. Marsh and Gordy Hyde from Engineering
have worked out a plan that is endorsed by Mr. Earling and Mr. Hall with regard to a pedestrian safety
zone.
Councilmember Fahey asked if there had been any thought given to reducing the speed limit in that area
also or whether that was implicit in the cross -striping. Police Sgt. Mark Marsh indicated that is one of
the options that had been considered but not specifically addressed in this proposal because they had
skirted over it in talking with Councilmembers Hall and Earling. However, he and Mr. Hyde would
certainly endorse doing that in the same manner as a school zone where it would be posted for the
specific hours of operation and specifically for safety and enforcement concerns. They are trying to
minimize the overall cost of the project. Councilmember Fahey confirmed it was not a recommended
course of action right now. Sgt. Marsh indicated they wanted to do this in a stair -step approach to try the
best possible solution at this point and monitor that over a specific period of time, and if they didn't get
the needed result, then that would be an option they would look at down the line which could be very
easily implemented. Councilmember Fahey was further provided with the definition of a rumble strip
and a clarification of cross -marking.
COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER FAHEY, FOR
THE RECOMMENDED ACTION: THE DESIGNATION OF A "PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ZONE".
THIS ZONE WOULD EXTEND FROM 8TH AVE. TO 6TH AVE. ON MAIN STREET AND
DAYTON STREET_ THE ZONE WOULD BE DESIGNATED BY POSTED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY
ZONE AHEAD SIGNS, ALONG WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ZONE SIGNS TO SHOW THE
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START OF THE ZONE. FLASHING AMBER LIGHTS WOULD BE USED AT THIS SAME
LOCATION TO ENHANCE THE MOTORIST AWARENESS OF THE ZONE. ADDITIONALLY,
RUMBLE STRIPS MAY BE USED TO AID IN THE WARNING. "END OF PEDESTRIAN
SAFETY ZONE" SIGNS WILL ALSO BE USED TO AID THE MOTORING PUBLIC. MOTION
CARRIED.
7. UPDATE BY COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR PAUL MAR REGARDING
MW�RU TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AND FUNDING FOR THE MULTIMODAL PROJECT
PRp Community Services Director Paul Mar stated that on September 20, 1995, there was a community
leader's meeting to talk about two transportation projects in the city. One was the Edmonds crossing or
the multimodal transportation project, and the second project was the overhead loading project which
will happen down at the existing ferry terminal. There were about 30 people in attendance including
Mayor Hall and Councilmember Kasper. The Edmonds crossing project was presented by Mr. Mar and
Jerry Weed, Project Manager from CH2M Hill, the consultant team. At the July oversight committee
meeting, there was a Phase I that cost in excess of $55 million which didn't solve the functional needs of
the ferry system. It didn't solve getting much of the traffic off the highway from the City's perspective,
and Mr. Mar thinks that overall at that meeting it was felt that the consulting team ought to go back and
rework it. In the last two months it has been reworked.
Mr. Mar utilized a drawing to show what is being proposed at this time. The solution proposed for Phase
I is to have the transportation center at Pt. Edwards, with two ferry slips. They would essentially build
from the railroad track out to the terminal; they would have a floating breakwater that would be
constructed from surplus pontoons of the Hood Canal Bridge which are currently stored off of Point
Gamble. They have permission to use those. It is proposed to use the existing UNOCAL road approach
off of 104; they haven't resolved the intersection issues as yet, but this conceptually would use that road
so that they would not have to construct any new road and use the currently paved lower yard for
parking. They would then build what they have termed a. throw -away approach up to the overpass to get
to the ferry terminal. In terms of getting walk-on passengers to either the park and ride or automobiles,
they would use something like buses that would not have to be turned around to go back and forth. Their
first blush cost estimate on this is in the mid -forty millions, but they have been advised we would like to
bring them down to below $40 million in terms of being fundable. There will be a technical meeting
next Friday, October 6.
At the same meeting Ted Bell, Jr. from the Washington State Ferry System and the architect presented
the conceptual drawings of the overhead loading project. Next Wednesday evening they will be
presenting this for preliminary review to the Architectural Design Board.
Councilmember Nordquist asked if this scheme is not the same plan as over in Kingston. Mr. Mar said it
was not and that it will not be totally enclosed like the one in Kingston, and it doesn't move. This one
would probably have a shelter over the top but would not be enclosed, at least initially. Mr. Mar thinks
one of the things they are looking for is input from the ADB and whatever the public comes in with in
terms of reactions to that.
One of the items being proposed as shown in the diagram is that on WSDOT property at Main Street
there will be, before you enter into the controlled area through the toll booths, public restrooms. Those
public restrooms then could be used by the public as well as by the ferry commuters.
Councilmember Kasper asked about the height of these different structure sections. He called Council
attention to some of the listed heights as shown on Alternative 1. The elevation of the cylinders where
the bridge meets or makes a turn is 35' at the deck so would be between 9 and 10' higher than that at
those points. When it turns, again at the elevation of the bridge, it goes up close to 45'. Going to the
other drawing, Mr. Kasper's concern was about the city's property going right up to the wall (second page
on Alternative 1). It shows the elevation of that station in the middle of the square on the South side of
the ferry dock. The committee was assured they would stay within the tower height which is 47.55'
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except for the hydraulic section. Where the walkway turns is the hydraulic section which shows an
elevation of 35'. The problem is that this thing is coming out approximately 60-62' perpendicular to
where the tower is to the South, so that is how far that will be into our property on the West. Most of our
view is more to the Northwest and Southwest where it looks across. Mr. Mar confirmed that by "our
property" Mr. Kasper was referring to Anderson Center Park and noted that our property line is the inner
harbor line Mr. Kasper's point is that it isn't on our property, but it obstructs our property to the true
West. If you go at the angle of the ferry dock, as built now, you get to a point where it won't be much of
an obstruction. He went on to explain what portions of the view might be obstructed.
Councilmember Hall indicated that that is something to think about because if indeed this is coming
South, and we are trying to develop a park, they may put the thing right in front of the park where we
may not even be able to see Kingston. Councilmember Kasper said that was the concern about Brackett's
Landing when it first started in 1986 and they started to build the tower on the other side. Fortunately,
that 500' only blocked Mt. Rainier from dock level, and there are no parks there. If you can't have a view
at a waterfront park, you are in trouble.
8. MAYOR
R� Mayor Hall asked Mr. Mar to address the special meeting tomorrow at 5:45 p.m. in the Community
Services meeting room regarding the interviews for the consultants for the Financial Building. Packets
were handed out by City Clerk Sandy Chase. Mr. Mar said what is being passed out to everyone is
submittals from the four finalist firms for tomorrow night's interviews. The first interview is at 5:45.
�w1 Mr. Mar noted there were requests from 48 firms, we received 13 submittals, and Councilmembers
Myers and Nordquist and Mr. Mar met last Friday and came up with a short list. He faxed a notification
to all of the firms and invited all four firms to come out on Monday to tour the bulding. that were short-
listed.
9. INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL REPORTS/UPDATES ON RESPECTIVE BOARD MEETINGS
Student Representative Emily Shen advised that she will be presenting a report of her activities with
the Council to her school, probably in the next week. She also stated that as an ASB Vice President
watching Council's procedures and the way it gets citizens involved has been very helpful in figuring out
policies for her school and its government.
Councilmember Fahey reported as part of her Cascade Board duties, she attended a meeting of the
D6 oversight committee for the multipurpose facility being proposed for South County. It looks like the
CASIA contract will be finalized with the County for the $200,000 grant that has been approved, and they will be
�WAD going out with an RFP as soon as that happens (anticipated to be in the next two or three weeks). It is
anticipated a consultant will be on board within about a month to six weeks to start the process to
determine what would be the most feasible kind of facility to build in South Snohomish County and
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Councilmember Myers expressed a concern that several residents of the Edmonds area and specifically
parents of students at Edmonds-Woodway High School contacted him to ascertain whether, in fact, a
�anor��Y police officer would be placed in the building this year. Mayor Hall advised she had met with Mr. Weiss
and got the plan clarified. There will be a policeman in the school, to be funded from COPS FAST
boy/ money. Chief Miller said Officer Bonello will be there full time as a school resource officer sometime
between October 1-16, depending upon when an injured officer returns to duty.
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�0 F� Councilmember Fahey further reported on the Greater Edmonds Advancement Team (GREAT) even
though it is part of community service and is not an official committee. GREAT had another
comprehensive meeting on the 14th which was well attended by citizens and a good cross-section of the
�sAEAr retail businesses. They are moving forward and anticipate having a draft plan proposal for a strategic
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plan for economic development put together within the next month. The next meeting is October 12 ,
and she advised that all are welcome to attend.
eRLtN Councilmember Hall reminded everyone of the mortgage burning party for the Snohomish County
`,snq,at Health District on September 29 at 6:00 p.m. at the Rucker Building. Councilmember Hall further
reported that he had joined the prestigious ranks of Alumnus of the Year, along with Chief Springer, for
Edmonds-Woodway High School and will be attending Homecoming this Friday.
Councilmember Earling reported that most of his report on CT will be heard next week with the six -year
Codt�u""y plan being brought forward. He advised that it highlights dramatic increases in services including a new
04145' emphasis in corridors to try to more efficiently move people, and also the opening of some new markets
to the East side of the Bothell -Everett Highway. Also, other projects Council might be interested in
include working on the expansion of the Paine Field. Of local interest, there is a transit center located at
Edmonds Community College under construction which should be completed sometime in the first part
of October. Many of the lines that come through Edmonds actually come back up to Edmonds
Community College as connector for other lines. Regarding the RTA, last Thursday there was a public
forum at the Seattle Center at which there were over 40 groups who testified with recommendations for
the next transit deliberation for the RTA plan that will be brought forward next year. The board now is
40 trying to decide whether or not we should go forward to ballot under our current legislation which is to
take care of high -capacity transit issues, or to go back to the legislature and try to get expanded authority
to do other things such as road improvements. There is some strong sentiment to take a look at that.
Finally, Councilmember Earling acknowledged that many of the Council members have attended over
the last several months Snohomish County Roundtables at which the three Snohomish County delegates
have asked for participation. It has helped a great deal in trying to establish, and re-establish, priorities
for the next transportation plan. He thinks you will begin in the next four to six weeks to see a new plan
start to surface, with a lot of ideas being floated about on what the next RTA ballot proposal might be.
He thinks the ballot proposal at this time probably will go forward next year in May, or if they can get
some consideration from the legislature, perhaps next November. He thinks 1996 will be the next
opportunity to vote on a regional transportation plan.
Council President Petruzzi reported that at the recent SnoComm/Medic 7 board meeting they approved
Ifoeve the final 1996 budget for the 911 communications, police dispatching, fire dispatching, aid and medical
dispatching. The total budget for SnoComm in 1996 is $1,496,000. Edmonds' share is $331,000 which
is an increase of $30,000 over last year. They also had the budget for Medic 7. The budget that was
approved was a total of $1,315,000, $299,000 of which is allocated to the City of Edmonds. That is an
increase of $14,000. There is one thing that was left unbudgeted that will impact Edmonds in 1995. The
Board has determined that here is a definite need for increasing the second Medic 7 from 12-hour
coverage to 24-hour coverage. There are a number of things at which the Board will be looking. The
technical committee came to the Board and said that there is a good possibility that we could get into
interlocal agreements with the various different fire districts and would be able to use their aid cars.
These have the same quality as Medic 7 people. If we are able to implement that in 1996, we would
implement it in the second half of the year, so there would be an additional $32,000 that would be added
to the budget, not to Edmonds, but to the entire budget. It is about a $64,000 per year cost. If we do
determine that is not feasible and go take our own Medic 7 and take it to 24-hours, that will cost an
additional $256,000. The determination of the need is there; there are too many calls that Medic 7
simply cannot respond to, and they don't feel it appropriate to leave it that way.
Councilmember Nordquist welcomed the newly annexed areas. He said Council had listened to them
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AR�� would like to annex. He asked Mayor Hall for a point of contact. Mayor Hall indicated they should
contact her office or that of Jeff Wilson. These approvals of these two annexations has certainly
interested others in wanting to come forward and do the same thing. Lastly, he discussed the financial
impact of a Major League baseball team and suggested Council send a letter advising the legislature that
we would encourage the economic development of some kind of facility. It was acknowledged by other
Council members to be a good idea, to be discussed more at next week's meeting.
There being no further business to come before the Council, the meeting was adjourned at 9:49 p.m.
Approved City Council Minutes Page 15 September 26, 1995
A M. ,AL , M YOR SAN"DR A S. C H A E, CITY CLERK
AGENDA
EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL
PLAZA MEETING ROOM - LIBRARY BUILDING
650 MAIN STREET
7:00 -10:00 mm.
SEPTEMBER 26, 1995
SPECIAL MEETING
CALL TO ORDER - 7:00 P.M.
FLAG SALUTE
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
2. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
(A) ROLL CALL
(B) APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 18, 1995
(C) APPROVAL OF CLAIM WARRANTS #3215S THRU #4136F FOR THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 18, 1995
IN THE AMOUNT OF $235,184.38; AND APPROVAL OF PAYROLL WARRANTS #955179 THRU
#955487 FOR THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER 1 THRU SEPTEMBER 15, 1995 IN THE AMOUNT OF
$399,499.96
(D) AUTHORIZATION FOR MAYOR TO SIGN NAME RIGHTS AND POSTER PUBLICATION AGREEMENT
BETWEEN EDMONDS ARTS COMMISSION AND THE EDMONDS IN BLOOM ASSOCIATION
(E) AUTHORIZATION FOR MAYOR TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE EDMONDS ARTS
COMMISSION AND MAGICAL STRINGS FOR TWO PERFORMANCES - THE WINTER PERFORMING
ARTS SERIES ($2,500)
(F) AUTHORIZATION FOR CULTURAL ARTS COORDINATOR TO ATTEND OUT OF STATE TRAINING
(G) PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING BOUNDARIES OF THREE HOUR PARKING ZONE WITHIN THE
CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
(H) PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 8.48 OF THE CITY CODE REGARDING PARKING AT
THE FISHING PIER PARKING LOT
3. (5 Min.) INTRODUCTION OF NEW DIRECTOR OF CASCADE SYMPHONY
4. (10 Min.) HEARING ON A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION OF AN
EXISTING MORATORIUM ON THE PERMITTING OR APPROVAL OF ANY ANTENNA OR TOWER
STRUCTURE FOR THE USE IN CELLULAR TELEPHONE ACTIVITIES AND EXEMPTING ANY
RECEIVING OR TRANSMITTING ANTENNA STRUCTURE REGULATED BY THE FCC AND WHICH THE
CITY IS PREEMPTED FROM REGULATING, AND ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT AND
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
5. (60 Min.) DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC SAFETY SPACE NEEDS/FACILITY
6. (15 Min.) RECOMMENDATIONS ON MAIN STREET/ANDERSON CENTER TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS
7. (10 Min.) UPDATE BY COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR PAUL MAR REGARDING TRANSPORTATION
ISSUES AND FUNDING FOR THE MULTIMODAL PROJECT
-Continued-
EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA
SEPTEMBER 26, 1995
PAGE TWO
8. (5 Min) MAYOR
9. (15 Min.) INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL REPORTS/UPDATES ON RESPECTIVE BOARD MEETINGS
10. (15 Min.) EXECUTIVE SESSION ON A LEGAL MATTER
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