11/20/1990 City CouncilTHESE MINUTES SUBJECT TO
NOVEMBER 27, 1990 APPROVAL
EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
NOVEMBER 20, 1990
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Larry
Naughten at the Library Plaza Room, 650 Main St., Edmonds. All present joined in the flag salute.
PRESENT
Larry Naughten, Mayor
John Nordquist, Council President
Steve Dwyer, Councilmember
Roger Hertrich, Councilmember
Jo -Anne Jaech, Councilmember
William Kasper, Councilmember
Jeff Palmer, Councilmember
Jack Wilson, Councilmember
Megan Renquist, Student Representative
CONSENT AGENDA
STAFF
Mary Lou Block, Planning Div. Mgr.
Art Housler, Admin. Svc. Director
Bobby Mills, Public Works Supt.
Brent Hunter, Personnel Manager
Peter Hahn, Comm. Svc. Director
Gary McComas, Fire Marshal
Mike Springer, Acting Asst. Fire Chief
Scott Snyder, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, City Clerk
Margaret Richards, Recorder
Items (B) and (D) were removed from the Consent Agenda. COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED
BY COUNCILMEMBER HERTRICH, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The
approved items on the Consent Agenda include the following:
(A) ROLL CALL
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF WORK BY LAKESIDE INDUSTRIES FOR PARKING LOT PAVING PROJECT AT
SIERRA AND PINE ST. PARKS, AND SET 30 DAY RETAINAGE PERIOD
�(E) FINAL APPROVAL OF 5 LOT SUBDIVISION AT 747 EDMONDS ST., SEAWOOD'S THIRD ADDITION (P-4-89)
F) AUTHORIZATION TO ACCEPT QUIT CLAIM DEED FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM HOFTO HOMES, INC., FOR
SUBDIVISION 5-13-90
�ADOPTED ORDINANCE 2805 MODIFYING EDMONDS CITY CODE BY ELIMINATING THE RESTRICTIVE
DEFINITIONS OF CITIZENS WHO COULD QUALITY FOR A WATER/SEWER RATE REDUCTION AND, INSTEAD,
/�'INCLUDING ALL CITIZENS DEFINED AS LOW INCOME
2' (H REPORT ON BIDS OPENED NOVEMBER 5, 1990 FOR 1991 CHLORINE REQUIREMENTS, AND AWARD OF
CONTRACT TO JONES CHEMICAL, INC. ($31,706)
(I) ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF RECEIPT OF CLAIM FOR DAMAGES FROM JIM MILNE ($501.72)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 5, 1990 ITEM (B) ON THE CONSENT AGENDAI
Councilmember Jaech referred to the memorandum from the City Clerk noting the following, "With
reference to the first paragraph on page 5 of the minutes, Councilmember Palmer has requested
that his remarks and those of Councilmember Hertrich be included with respect to the Public De-
fender's suggestion for representation to defendants with non-jailable offenses. The following
was obtained from the tape: 'Councilmember Hertrich said he was glad this was not the judge's
9;"— recommendation. He believed the judge to have a certain amount of latitude as to who can have a
t�ppPublic Defender and who cannot. He said he has seen it in action, and people with non-jailable
offenses do get Public Defenders fairly readily and the court system really does allow for a lot
more than one would think. He disagreed with the suggestion and said he would not be in favor of
extending it. Councilmember Palmer said he, too, was glad the judge was not following that recom-
mendation. He resented the implication that somehow the common man cannot come to our courts and
either work through the process or do it expeditiously, and'he thought if you need an attorney
for every minuscule offense, then there's something wrong with the system from the start. He
thought the whole letter struck of attorney featherbedding,- and he said.there was no way he was
going to move in that direction'".
COUNCILMEMBER PALMER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HERTRICH, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMEND-
ED. MOTION CARRIED.
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF WORK BY DEBRA TRUCK AND EXCAVATING INC. FOR 1990 STORM DRAINAGE IMPROVE-
MENTS
30 DAY RETAINAGE PERIOD LIM Sul ON THE CONSENT-M-DAj—
ouncilmember Palmer inquired if the difference between the bid of $240,152.26 for the patch on
,�'";:5�3rd Avenue South and the final cost of $252,555.34 was budgeted or if the Council was being asked
Z to approve a budget variance. Community Services Director Peter Hahn said the cost differential.
_ resulted from a change order at the request of the City for work on Dayton Street. Councilmember
Palmer inquired, then, if the amount of $255,000 in the 412 Fund was not the total amount in the
fund but was the amount that was.budgeted for the project. Mr. Hahn replied affirmatively.
COUNCILMEMBER PALMER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILSON, TO APPROVE ITEM (D). 'MOTION CAR-
RIED.
AUDIENCE
Mayor Naughten opened the audience portion of the meeting.
Doug Dewar, President of the Edmonds Chamber of Commerce, 100 - Ind Ave. S., in response to an
earlier request by Mayor Naughten that the Chamber make a statement with regard to the ferry
terminal, stated that the Edmonds Chamber of Commerce Board of Directors have recommended the
�ollowing: 1) that the City of Edmonds aggressively move to acquire control of the Unocal proper-
y; 2) that the City, as part of the proposed $120,000 waterfront study: a) develop a plan for
the inclusion of the Unocal property in a master plan which would include, but not necessarily be
limited to, the existing downtown area, the waterfront area, and the fish hatchery; b) that the
overall plan include input from the Washington State Department of Transportation as well as a
review of previous community -based studies; and c) that the City take the lead in the issue and
involve the Edmonds Chamber of Commerce and that the final decision regarding the modification,
improvement, or relocation of the ferry terminal be made only after giving full consideration of
all of the aforementioned input.
Mr. Dewar said the Chamber of Commerce offers to the City of Edmonds its considerable membership
resources to assist in finding the most equitable and appropriate solution to this most complex
problem.
Mr. Dewar said while the Chamber does not definitely endorse relocation of the ferry terminal,
they fully endorse the Council's aggressive stance to acquire the Unocal property because they
feel it is a very important piece of property to the City of Edmonds. He said the Boar;'d of Direc-
tors cannot take a.position with respect to relocation of the ferry terminal at this time because
they do not feel they have sufficient information to make a sound statement.
Councilmember Kasper reassured Mr. Dewar that the Council has not made a final decision with
regard to purchasing the Unocal property, and they will not make an official statement until all
of the issues have been studied first.
Councilmember Hertrich was disappointed that the Board of Directors did not peruse the agreement
between the State of Washington and the City. -He noted that the agreement discusses alternative
sites for the ferry terminal and the use of the $120,000.
Councilmember Hertrich said the Council has taken the position that they do not wish to expand
the existing facility. He was dismayed that the Board of Directors has not made a positive state-
ment with respect to relocation of the ferry terminal because he said it sends a message to the
Department of Transportation that the community is divided on that issue.
Councilmember Dwyer was pleased with the statements that the Board of Directors had made. He
noted that the study will identify many issues and will articulate what options are available.
Councilmember Wilson believed that input from the Chamber of Commerce will be vitalafter the
Council makes its selection of the consultant for the study.
Councilmember Wilson, Councilmember Jaech and Councilmember Palmer expressed their appreciation
to the Chamber of Commerce for supporting the City.
Councilmember Palmer noted that in the consultant selection process the Council has been sensi-
tive to the needs of the City's local businesses and the critical need to retain aiconsultant
that understands the upland impacts of the location ofthe ferry terminal.
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HEARING ON APPEAL OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD'S DECISION DENYING FINAL APPROVAL OF LANDSCAPE
PLAN ON OFFICE BUILDING LOCATED AT 7416 _
GEAP-26-90/ADB-43-90)
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Planning Division Manager Mary Lou Block reported that the building located at 7416 - 212th
Street Southwest was approved by the Architectural Design Board (ADB) in 1980 under file ADB-115-
79 and construction was completed at that time.
Ms. Block said an application to enclose the parking area under the building and convert that
area into office space was submitted on May 15, 1990. It was given preliminary approval on June
6, 1990 with the condition that the applicant come back with a new lighting plan for the parking
lot and a new landscape plan showing curbing, irrigation, and landscape island revisions for the
parking lot.
Ms. Block noted that construction of the enclosure and conversion of the parking area to office
space was completed, and a thirty -day temporary occupancy permit for the office space was issued.
Ms. Block said the applicant submitted revised plans at the October 3, 1990 ADB meeting showing
two landscape plans: one with landscaping to be retained and the other showing new landscaping
but not showing .irrigation in the south and east planting areas. The Board denied final approval
of the dumpster treatment, exterior lighting, and the new landscape plan and required the follow-
ing: specific sizes and varieties of plant materials; irrigation throughout; and installation of
more plant materials in the area of the southwest property line.
Ms. Block said the applicant submitted an appeal letter on October 22, 1990 objecting to the
Board's requirements. She noted that included in the Council packets were a copy of the appeal
letter, minutes from the June 6, August 1 and October 3, 1990 ADB meetings, and the landscape
plan and building elevations.
Ms. Block said it is the recommendation of Staff to uphold the ADB decision.
Ms. Block submitted to the City Clerk, for distribution to the Council, five photographs of land-
scaped areas on the property (marked Exhibit 1). She pointed out those areas on a site plan.
Councilmember Kasper inquired about the issues that were raised in the appeal letter. Ms. Block
said Mr. Gemperle was appealing the conditions that were established by the ADB for the project.
Councilmember Palmer wanted Ms. Block to expound further on the issues raised in the appeal let-
ter. He inquired if the applicant was appealing only the ADB's last ruling or all of their rul-
ings throughout the process. Ms. Block said it was her understanding that the applicant was
appealing only the ADB's final ruling and intends to comply with all other requirements.
Because the photographs were taken that day, City Attorney Scott Snyder suggested that the appli-
cant be given an opportunity to review the photographs.
Richard Gemperle, 1116 - 15th Ave. E., Seattle, reviewed the photographs.
Mr. Gemperle then submitted to the City Clerk, for distribution to the Council, ten photographs
that depicted the entire site (marked Exhibit 2).
Mr. Gemperle said he submitted a proposal to the ADB in June to enclose the parking area and make
no other changes_ to the site. He said the ADB recommended that improvements be made to the land-
scaping, that the dumpster area be enclosed, and that the barbed wire be removed, which he said
he agreed to do. In addition, he said the Board recommended curbing around the existing paving.
He noted that the building was approved by the ADB ten years ago, and he proposed to make no
changes to landscaping. He was frustrated because he submitted a proposal only to enclose the
parking area and is now required to make several other changes to the site. Mr. Gemperle said he
has appeared before the Board three times and was now before the Council to appeal to their sense
of fairness. He said it seems unreasonable to him to require new landscaping and irrigation to a
project that was approved many years ago. He thought it was fair, however, to require him to
restore any plant materials that have died since the original plan was approved.
Councilmember Hertrich inquired what improvements the ADB required of the landscaping. Mr.
Gemperle said the ADB has required that additional landscaping be installed that would either
double or triple the landscaping that exists.
Mr. Gemperle explained that the landscaping was neglected by the previous owner and that he pur-
chased the property only four years ago. He said he has hired a landscape company to maintain
and improve the site.
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Mayor Naughten opened the public portion of the hearing. No input was offered. Mayor Naughten
closed the public portion of the hearing.
Mr. Gemperle said the existing landscaping is native to the Northwest and is designed to grow
without irrigation. He noted that his landscaper can manually irrigate the landscaping in the
summer if there is a long, dry spell.
In response to Councilmember Hertrich, Mr. Gemperle said he has accomplished all of the condi-
tions that the ADB has required of him with the exception of the landscaping and irrigation. He
said he would be willing to replace any plantings that have died that were required when the
project was originally approved and specify the size and location of those plants, but he felt it
was unreasonable to require additional landscaping. Councilmember Hertrich inquired if replace-
ment of the previously approved landscaping would be in conformance with the existing code. Mr.
Gemperle said the code only spells out the size and spacing of plant materials. Councilmember
Hertrich inquired if the ADB gave any direction to Mr. Gemperle with respect to the type of plant
materials they desired to be planted on the site. Mr: Gemperle replied negatively.
Ms. Block clarified that the ADB did specify some plant materials in earlier meetings; as well as
plantings around the dumpster.
In response to Councilmember Hertrich, Ms. Block said there are many areas on the property where
the landscaping has died. She said it appears that landscaping would be more profuse if mainte-
nance and irrigation were provided.
Mayor Naughten closed the public portion of the hearing.
Councilmember Palmer noted that the Council recently reviewed the landscape standards which the
ADB employs in their review process, and he added that it is a very clear process. He said the
landscape standards have changed in ten years. Councilmember Palmer said in reading the minutes
of the ADB, the applicant has been given nearly identical instructions each time he appeared
before them, but he has not shown a great deal of effort to comply with the ADB's specific re-
quests.
COUNCILMEMBER PALMER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE
ADB'S DECISION.
Councilmember Kasper said he was in support of the motion, but he felt that the ADB is moving in
a direction beyond what they were charged with, and he felt the Council should review that issue.
MOTION CARRIED.
PUBLIC HEARING ON 1991 BUDGET
Mayor Naughten opened the public portion of the hearing.
Natalie Shippen, 1022 Euclid, complimented the City Attorney and City Planner for accomplishing
two tasks that were not mandated by ordinance: 1) uniformity of the newspaper stands on 5th and
Main; and 2) installation of trees in the Diamond Parking lot.
Ms. Shippen said the trees in the Diamond Parking lot have unfortunately been damaged by cars.
She inquired if the City would install barriers and replace the trees at City cost.
Ms. -Shippen referred to page 125 of the budget and requested that the following sentence be in-
cluded to Fund 323, Street Beautification, "In the 1990 budget, the Council appropriated $53,000
to underground wires and install additional historic street lights on the south side of Main
Street between 3rd and 2nd". She said that text gives the history of the undergrounding project,
and she felt it would be a serious omission to not include that sentence. Ms. Shippen requested
that the City appropriate funds to install historic lights on the other side, and she suggested
the the funding emanate from Fund 326 and from the $30,000 that was earmarked for island plant-
ings on SR-104. She felt it was premature to invest money in the islands when there is a possi-
bility that they will be removed.
With respect to the summer band concerts, Ms. Shippen was hopeful that the Council would approve
funding for that program because she said the concerts have -been one of the more successful pro-
grams of the Centennial Committee. She said the atmosphere at the concerts is very informal and
pleasant and is suitable to people with families and young children. Ms. Shippen noted that
there were sponsors for some of the performers, and she speculated that sponsorship will continue.
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Mr. Shippen said Don Girvan was the person who organized the program. She introduced Mr. Girvan.
Mr. Girvan said the program was a very nice experience.
Mayor Naughten thanked Mr. Girvan for his efforts.
Mayor Naughten noted that the concerts were well attended. He said $5,000 has been allocated in
the budget to continue the program, and the program will be reviewed during the budget process.
Mayor Naughten added that the Arts Commission has set aside $4,.000 in their budget to continue
the program.
Councilmember Palmer commented that the Council has not yet discussed who would administer the
program. Mr. Girvan said he would be happy to contact the bands.
Mayor.Naughten closed the public portion of the hearing.
REVIEW OF FIRE DIRECTOR'S POSITION
Personnel Manager Brent Hunter submitted a draft job description of the Fire Director's position
to the Council.
Mayor Naughten noted that the educational requirements were amended so that a Bachelor of Arts
(BA) Degree in Fire Science, Business or Public Administration is desirable.
In response to questions by the Council, Mr. Hunter said an officer is classified as the rank of
a lieutenant or above, and a command officer is a higher rank than a lieutenant in the City's
Fire Department. Fire Marshal Gary McComas explained that in the City's Fire Department, a lieu-
tenant is considered a command officer when responding to a situation until he is relieved by a
senior officer.
Councilmember Wilson inquired which of the cities that are included in comparison studies require
a BA degree. Mr. Hunter said only Mercer Island and Redmond require a BA degree. He said the
trend is to move toward requiring a higher education in all public service areas, although there
are more college -educated personnel in police services than in fire services. Councilmember
Wilson inquired if Mr. Hunter thought the requirement of a BA would be too rigid a standard for
the City. Mr. Hunter said he believed the City would lose a group of candidates who might other-
wise apply for the position. He suggested that the job description say that a BA is desirable
and/or experience.
Councilmember Palmer inquired about a phased -in approach for a higher educational standard. Mr.
Hunter noted that the Mayor has recommended that very approach because he feels employees should
have an opportunity to meet the higher educational requirement within a three-year period.
In response to Councilmember Hertrich, Mr. Hunter said the National Fire Academy offers special-
ized training and it is the highest form of training •that can be attained in fire services. He
noted that it is equivalent to the National FBI Academy.
Fire Marshal McComas said a degree is not obtained upon completion of training at the National
Fire Academy but a certificate for specific areas of expertise is issued. Councilmember Hertrich
inquired if management and administrative courses are available at the college level or at the
Academy. Fire Marshal McComas replied affirmatively. He noted, however, that anyone wishing to
attend the Academy must be on active duty in fire services before they are accepted at the Acade-
my.-
Councilmember Nordquist was curious about the degree of education a person receives in administra-
tion in a two-year program. He said he would be interested in pursuing a phased -in approach for
a BA degree if the two-year program does not provide a person with sufficient managerial skills.
Fire Marshal McComas said he would provide the Council with the curriculum for an Associate of
Arts Degree (AA) next week.
Councilmember Nordquist inquired if a person could further his knowledge in Fire Sciences and
Administration after obtaining an AA degree. Fire Marshal McComas said there is now a four-year
degree in Fire Administration, but the program is not widely available in the Northwest. Acting
Assistant Chief Mike Springer noted that City College at Edmonds Community College offers a BA
degree in Fire Administration, as well as a Masters Degree.
Councilmember Palmer inquired if Fire Administration and Fire Sciences were synonymous. Acting
Assistant Chief Springer said college classes were originally oriented towards a science ap-
proach, but they have since changed so that classes are oriented towards administrative responsi-
bilities and the technical aspect of training fire fighters are conducted at the State Academy.
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Student Representative Renquist inquired if it was unusual for someone to possess a BA degree in
management in fire services. Fire Marshal McComas said he has an AA degree, but people who pos-
sess a BA degree were typically previously engaged in another field of interest but for some
reason became fire fighters.
Councilmember Kasper noted that the Council decided over a year ago to upgrade the ;educational
-requirements with the ability of candidates to educate themselves further within -a certain period
of time if they did not possess the higher degree. Councilmember Kasper said the Council also
discussed at the Council retreat that the Fire Director's position would not be a civil service
position.
Councilmember Kasper said, "If we don't have these requirements and we have a civil services
situation, I think we are dead down the line if we do get what we want".
Councilmember Kasper said the Department Directors of the City sometimes make overall policies
for the City, and he felt that the Fire Director should have the skills to participate in that
process. He said, "I think we would have a missing link without having these qualifications, and
I think we should advertise for them".
Councilmember Kasper thought it would only be fair to implement the phased -in approach for a
higher educational requirement, and he suggested that the Fire Director not receive full salary
benefits until he obtains a BA degree.
With respect to the current selection process, City Attorney Scott Snyder stated that the Civil
Service Commission has established the qualifications. He said if the Council were to do noth-
ing, the Commission would advertise according to those qualifications and they would establish an
eligibility list. They then would submit the highest three names that they selected to the May-
or. The Mayor, who would be the appointing authority, would appoint the person he deemed appro-
priate. Mr. Snyder said the Mayor would involve, at his discretion, the Council before he made
that selection, but he would be limited to the top three names that the Commission selected.
Mr. Snyder said the Council can, by State statute, require Council confirmation of any position
by ordinance. He said because the City established the Civil Service system by ordinance, the
Council could adopt additional qualifications by ordinance and request that they be included in
the Civil Service process.
Mr. Snyder pointed out that as the system currently exists, the Council has very little role in
the selection process.
COUNCILMEMBER DWYER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST, TO INCLUDE THE POSITION OF THE
FIRE CHIEF IN THOSE POSITIONS WHICH REQUIRE COUNCIL CONFIRMATION OF THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT TO
FINALIZE THE HIRING PROCESS.
Councilmember Jaech inquired if the Council can require that they have confirmation powers if the
Fire Director remains in the Civil Service system. Mr. Snyder replied affirmatively! He said
the Council could, by ordinance, require Council confirmation.
I
Councilmember Wilson inquired if the Council would have the latitude not to confirm any of the
three candidates that the Mayor selected. Mr. Snyder said the Civil Service Commission, and not
the Mayor, would select the top three candidates, as the procedure is currently structured. He
said the Mayor would then select a person from the three candidates, and the Council would con-
firm his appointment. Mr. Snyder said the Civil Service ordinance would have to be amended if
the Council wished to deviate from that process.
For the Council's benefit, Mr. Snyder outlined the civil service procedure.
As an optional municipal code city with Mayor/Council form of government, Councilmember Dwyer
inquired if there were any circumstances in which the Council could set itself up as a hiring
authority as opposed to the Mayor being the hiring authority. Mr. Snyder replied negatively.
MOTION CARRIED.
COUNCILMEMBER HERTRICH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO REMOVE THE FIRE DIRECTOR'S
POSITION ENTIRELY FROM CIVIL SERVICE. MOTION CARRIED WITH COUNCILMEMBER DWYER OPPOSED.
COUNCILMEMBER PALMER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST FOR DISCUSSION, THAT THE MAYOR
PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH THE TOP THREE CANDIDATES AND FROM THOSE THREE, THE COUNCIL CAN EITHER
CONFIRM OR REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL THREE CANDIDATES. I
Because Councilmember Kasper was unsure about the propriety of the motion, Mr. Snyder said in
order to exercise their confirmation power, the Council could request the Mayor to use the
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process in order to place the candidates in context and to do so would be to have brief inter-
views with the top three candidates.
MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Snyder inquired if the Council would like the same confirmation rule to apply to the Police
Chief's position when it becomes vacant. It was the consensus of the Council to do so. Mr.
Snyder noted that the incumbent Police Chief would retain his Civil Service rank but his successor
would not be included in the Civil Service system.
COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER PALMER, TO INCORPORATE THE SAME CONFIRMA-
TION RULE TO THE NEXT POLICE CHIEF THAT APPLIES TO THE FIRE DIRECTOR. MOTION CARRIED WITH COUN-
*xCILMEMBER DWYER OPPOSED. Councilmember Dwyer said he was also opposed to removing the Fire Direc-
tor from the Civil Service system.
COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NORDQUIST, TO REQUIRE A BACHELOR OF ARTS
DEGREE IN FIRE ADMINISTRATION OR PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FOR THE FIRE DIRECTOR, AND THAT ANY CUR-
RENT EMPLOYEE WHO MAY BE HIRED FOR THE POSITION BE OBLIGATED TO OBTAIN THAT DEGREE WITHIN A
THREE-YEAR PERIOD.
Councilmember Dwyer was concerned that a three-year period would not be sufficient time to allow
an employee who works full time to obtain a BA degree. Councilmember Wilson and Councilmember
Hertrich shared the same concern.
Councilmember Wilson inquired if the City could require a BA degree for outside applicants but
allow employees to obtain that degree after they were hired. Because of a concern with respect
to discrimination, Mr. Snyder suggested that the City allow itself the ability to select a person
with an AA degree but advertise that a BA degree is preferrable, or require a BA degree for all
applicants.
Councilmember Jaech noted that City University offers a program that enables full-time working
people to obtain a BA degree or MBA degree within two years.
COUNCILMEMBER PALMER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, TO AMEND THE MOTION TO CHANGE THE
LENGTH OF TIME NECESSARY TO BRING THE EDUCATIONAL LEVEL UP TO A BACHELOR OF ARTS DEGREE TO FOUR
YEARS RATHER THAN THREE YEARS. MOTION CARRIED WITH COUNCILMEMBER HERTRICH OPPOSED.
COUNCILMEMBER PALMER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO FURTHER AMEND THE MOTION TO MAKE
THE EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENT APPLY FOR BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE APPLICANTS. MOTION CARRIED.
A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN ON THE MAIN MOTION. THE MOTION, AS AMENDED, CARRIED WITH COUNCILMEM-
BER NORDQUIST, COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, COUNCILMEMBER PALMER, AND COUNCILMEMBER
WILSON IN FAVOR; COUNCILMEMBER DWYER AND COUNCILMEMBER HERTRICH OPPOSED. Councilmember Hertrich
said he was opposed because he did not understand the motion. Councilmember Kasper noted that he
had recapitulated on the motion earlier.
Fire Marshal McComas noted that all of the Council's concerns would be addressed through the
evaluation process that is undertaken through the current Civil Service process to screen candi-
dates.
The meeting adjourned to a work session on 1991 budget at 9:17 p.m.
The -meeting reconvened briefly at 9:25 p.m. to take action on selection of a consultant for the
ferry study. Councilmember Hertrich asked first if they were locked in on the teams. Councilmem-
006'ber Wilson said he was confident either of the candidates could do the technical engineering, but
he said the Council needed to work with the variables beyond that. He favored the planner on the
second team, saying he was a sharp fellow who understands the community needs. COUNCILMEMBER
NORDQUIST THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILSON, TO CONTRACT WITH THE FIRM OF REID-
MIDDLETON. Councilmember Palmer suggested that whichever team was selected, the Council not
adjust more than two of the categories so the consultant doesn't end up with an. incompatible
team. THE MOTION THEN CARRIED. Councilmember Kasper thought public participation and marine
engineering were two areas to be discussed. Councilmember Dwyer said, regarding public participa-
tion, he would like to see Reid -Middleton use Savage or Barton. Community Services Director
Peter Hahn said he had discussed the team adjustments with -all of the candidates and none had a
fixed team that they had to work with.
The meeting then adjourned at 9:35 p.m. to the Budget Work Session which continued until 10:35
p.m.
* See Coundil Minutes December 4 199� pp11
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LA,KRY S. WAUGHTER, M yor
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AGENDA
EDMONDS CITY COUNCIL
PLAZA MEETING ROOM - LIBRARY BUILDING
7:00 - 10:00 P.M.
NOVEMBER 20, 1990
CALL TO ORDER
FLAG SALUTE
1. CONSENT AGENDA
(A) ROLL CALL
(B) APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 5, 1990
(C) FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF WORK BY LAKESIDE INDUSTRIES FOR PARKING LOT PAVING
PROJECT AT SIERRA AND PINE ST. PARKS, AND SET 30-DAY RETAINAGE PERIOD
(D) FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF WORK BY DEBRA TRUCK AND EXCAVATING, INC., FOR 1990
STORM DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, AND SET 30-DAY RETAINAGE PERIOD
(E) FINAL APPROVAL OF 5-LOT SUBDIVISION AT 747 EDMONDS ST., SEAWOOD'S.THIRD
ADDITION (P-4-89) I
(F) AUTHORIZATION TO ACCEPT QUIT CLAIM DEED FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM HOFTO HOMES,
INC., FOR SUBDIVISION S-13-90
(G) PROPOSED ORDINANCE 2805 MODIFYING EDMONDS CITY CODE BY ELIMINATING THE
RESTRICTIVE DEFINITIONS OF CITIZENS WHO COULD QUALIFY FOR A WATER/SEWER
RATE REDUCTION AND' INSTEAD INCLUDING ALL CITIZENS- DEFINED AS LOW INCOME
(H) REPORT ON BIDS OPENED NOVEMBER 5, 1990, FOR 1991 CHLORINE REQUIREMENTS,
AND AWARD OF CONTRACT TO JONES CHEMICAL, INC. ($31,706)
(I) ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF RECEIPT OF CLAIM FOR DAMAGES FROM JIM MILNE ($501.72)
2. AUDIENCE
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3. HEARING ON APPEAL OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD'S DECISION DENYING (30 MINUTES)
FINAL APPROVAL OF LANDSCAPE PLAN ON OFFICE BUILDING LOCATED AT 7416
212TH ST. S.W. (APPLICANT/APPELLANT: RICHARD GEMPERLE; AP-26-90/
ADB-43-90)
4. PUBLIC HEARING ON 1991 BUDGET (15 MINUTES)
5.. WORK SESSION ON 1991 BUDGET - REVIEW MAYOR'S DEPT. BUDGET
6. MAYOR.
7. COUNCIL
THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ATTEND
PARKING AND MEETING ROOMS,ARE HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE