2015-01-08 Historic Preservation Commission MinutesCITY OF EDMONDS
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
SUMMARY MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
January 8, 2015
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Scott called the meeting of the Edmonds Historic Preservation Commission to order at 5:30 p.m. in the 3rd Floor
Conference Room of City Hall, 121 — 5d' Avenue North.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT
STAFF PRESENT
Emily Scott, Chair
Rob Chave, Planning Division Manager
Sandra Allbery
Kernen Lien, Senior Planner
Eric Livingston
Diane Cunningham, Administrative Assistant
Tim Raetzloff
Steve Waite
GUESTS
Kristiana Johnson, City Council Member
Clayton Moss, Graphic Designer, Forma Design
Lora Petso, City Council Member
Dean Averill, Vice President, Edmonds South Snohomish
County Historical Society
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT
Larry Vogel, Vice Chair (excused)
Chris Deiner-Karr (excused)
Katie Bojakowski
Gerry Tays
READING/APPROVAL OF MINUTES
COMMISSIONER RAETZLOFF MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 13, 2014 AS
AMENDED. COMMISSIONER ALLBERY SECONDED THE MOTION, WHICH CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
AGENDA ADDITIONS/CHANGES
The agenda was amended to add discussions about the 2015 Strategic Plan and social media use. In addition, the discussion
regarding a Certificate of Appropriateness for the Museum was placed earlier on the agenda.
REQUESTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
No one in the audience expressed a desire to address the Commission during this portion of the meeting.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Nomination of 2015 Chair and Vice Chair
COMMISSIONER WAITE MOVED THAT THE COMMISSION CONFIRM THE NOMINATIONS MADE AT
THE NOVEMBER 13, 2014 MEETING FOR COMMISSIONER SCOTT TO SERVE AS CHAIR AND
COMMISSIONER VOGEL TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION IN 2015. COMMISSIONER
RAETZLOFF SECONDED THE MOTION, WHICH CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Registration Committee
Chair Scott advised that Commissioner Definer -Karr is still working on collecting background and mapping information on a
property to present to the Commission.
Education and Outreach Committee
There was no report from the Education and Outreach Committee
Preservation Planning Committee
Commissioner Waite suggested that the Commission have a discussion about how they can work together with other
Commissions and Boards on projects within the City. He also suggested they have a discussion at the next meeting (15
minutes prior) about the procedures for reviewing and approving Certificates of Appropriateness.
Edmonds South Snohomish County Historical Society
Commissioner Allbery reported that the Edmonds Museum was open for the City's Christmas Tree Lighting Event. Visitors
were invited inside to enjoy popcorn and get warm. Two Marines stood outside during the event to collect Toys for Tots,
which went well. She announced that the Historical Society's annual membership meeting is scheduled for February 9, 2015.
The event will be an open house format to introduce the new Board Members.
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MUSEUM
Mr. Lien advised that the Edmonds South Snohomish County Historic Society is proposing changes for the Edmonds
Museum that will require a Certificate of Appropriateness as part of the Building Permit, and tonight's discussion is an
opportunity for the Commission to review and provide initial comments regarding the proposal. He emphasized that the
Commission is not being asked to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness at this time.
Dean Averill, Vice President, Edmonds South Snohomish County Historical Society, reviewed the proposal to renovate the
exterior grounds in front of the Edmonds Museum. The goal of the project is to make the area more welcoming and provide
a public gathering place. As proposed, some shrubbery and curbing would be eliminated to provide space for a plaza area
adjacent to the log cabin all the way to the alley. The intent is to provide continuity between the Hazel Miller Plaza, the
Edmonds Museum, the log cabin and the anticipated Veteran's Memorial near the Public Safety Building.
Clayton Moss, Graphic Designer, Forma Design, provided a brief explanation of the design process to date, which included
discussions with members of the community and an early meeting with Commissioner Waite to get his initial response to the
ideas that were being considered. He emphasized that the building was constructed in 1910, and it is important to honor and
be very sensitive to its structural integrity. On the other hand, problems have come up over the years that have gotten in the
way of the building's functionality and the public's ability to appreciate this wonderful piece of architecture. He reviewed
his observations of the current situation and outlined changes that would resolve the existing problems, improve the safety
and appearance of the area, address what people want and need today, and honor the past.
Mr. Averill said renovation on the south side of the building must be completed by June 201h, which is when the Summer
Market commences. In addition, they would like to have as much of the project as possible completed in time for the City's
125`h Anniversary Celebration on August 11`h.
The Commission discussed and provided feedback on the following elements of the proposal:
• Planters, Trellis and Lighting. Mr. Clayton explained that one of the functional requirements of the freestanding
planters with trellises is to offer an appropriate structural opportunity to add hidden light sconces to illuminate the
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building in the evening. Commissioner Waite voiced concern that the six elements would obscure the original false
ashler base that was intended to support the building. Although they would not be attached to the building, the trellises
would give the appearance of columns that support the building. He reminded the Commission that the exterior of the
building was designated on the Register, and the false ashler base is an important aspect. He agreed that the facade is
harsh, and some softening would be appropriate. However, the proposal may go too far in hiding the lower element.
The Commission considered options to address Commissioner Waite's concern, yet provide adequate lighting on the
building facade during the evening hours. It was suggested that low planters, without the trellises, could be used to
separate the plaza from the building. Lights could be placed in the planters and directed in such a way to illuminate the
brickwork above. Rather than grey planters to blend in with the base of the building, the planters could have a subtle
design that relates to the plaza yet compliments the building. In addition, it was suggested that, rather than flood lighting
the entire building, the lighting should be soft and highlight features of the building.
Signage. Mr. Moss reviewed the proposal for directional and informational signage throughout the site. Mr. Lien noted
that an additional sign would be required to direct people to the entrance that is compliant with the Americans with
Disabilities Act (ADA). Some Commissioners voiced concern that placing signage on the steps would alter the
appearance of the building. Mr. Chave added that the combination of multiple signs, including step signage, could create
a cluttered look. Mr. Moss pointed out that the signs proposed for the stairs would be of a removal type and would not
permanently alter the building's exterior. Chair Scott observed that because the lettering on the stairs would be
reversible, it should not be a detriment to the applicant's ability to obtain a Certificate of Appropriateness. Mr. Moss
suggested that the stair signage not be included as part of the sign package now. Because it would not permanently alter
the exterior of the building, it could be an option to consider at a later date if the opportunity arises.
• Street Lights. Council Member Johnson noted that the building is symmetrical, and it would seem the street lights
should be located between the windows.
• Metal Stair Railing. Council Member Johnson recalled that the railing is likely more than 50 years old and questioned
if it should be considered an historic element of the structure. Mr. Lien noted that deleting or altering the center rail
would require that the entire railing be brought up to current code standards. If no changes are proposed, the railing
could remain in its existing form. Commissioner Waite expressed support for removing the center railing, as the original
intent was to have a monolithic staircase leading up to "education and reading." The handrail was inappropriately added
at a later date.
Signage Pilings on the South Side. Mr. Moss said these signs would be considered a temporary "outdoor exhibit."
They received input from several sources about the need to provide educational opportunities regarding the history of the
museum building and Edmonds, in general. This exhibit would be open 24-hours a day, even when the museum is
closed. It was noted that the educational signs would be located further from the building and would not have a
significant impact on the character of the building. Mr. Moss noted that the signs would screen some outside situations,
and educate the public at the same time.
• Lighting on Staircase. Commissioner Waite suggested it might be possible to recess the lighting into the side rails.
However, he noted that, if the exterior of the building is lit as discussed earlier, there would be a reflection onto the
staircase that may be adequate without additional lighting fixtures.
Mr. Lien advised that when the City receives an application for a building permit, the proposal will be brought before the
Commission for a Certificate of Appropriateness. He noted that the Commission only meets once a month on the second
Thursday. Mr. Moss said the proposal would be revised to respond to the Commission's comments and suggestions.
WEB UPDATES
This item was not discussed.
NEW BUSINESS
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2015 Strategdc Plan
Ms. Cunningham reminded the Commission that an updated Strategic Plan is required for grant applications. She agreed to
provide a copy of the 2014 Strategic Plan to each Commissioner. The Commissioners were invited to review the plan and
identify appropriate changes. It was particularly noted that the committee assignments need to be updated. The plan was
added to the February 12`h meeting agenda.
Social Media Use
Ms. Cunningham referred to the draft "social media policy" that is currently being considered by the City Council. She
briefly reviewed the rules related to establishing a Facebook account for the Commission, which must be managed by City
staff rather than a Commissioner. The Commission agreed to discuss the issue further at their next meeting.
The Process Before and After Receiving ADnlications for the Register
This item was moved to the next meeting's agenda
Status of 2015 Historic Calendars
Ms. Cunningham said there is only a half box of calendars left. She referred to the letter from Mr. Naughton complimenting
the Commission on the calendar, as well as their other efforts.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION CHAIR COMMENTS
Chair Scott expressed excitement about the Commission's activities in 2015.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Ms. Cunningham provided copies of the State's Historic Preservation Plan.
Council Member Johnson asked if there is any additional information about whether or not the City would be selected to host
the Main Street Conference this spring. Ms. Cunningham agreed to research the issue and report back to the Commission.
Council Member Petso reported that the budget recently approved by the City Council includes funding for a 2016 calendar.
There is also a grant fund available for City Boards and Commissions.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 7:10 p.m.
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