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DISCUSSION OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
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In regard to the Mayor's memo to council members dealing with the proposed consoli-
dation of the Engineering, Planning and Building. Departments into a single depart-
ment to be called the Community Development Department, Councilman Gellert noted
that since this involves individual personnel, he preferred to discuss it further.
He therefore moved, seconded by Councilman Nordquist to have an executive session
to discuss this item following the December I council hearing on the budget. Motion
carried.
Councilman Nelson stated that he would write summary comments on the budget for
each council member, since he would not be in attendance.
SOLID WASTE DISCUSSION
Councilman Nordquist noted that the Mayor and Council had received copies of a
letter from the Snohomish Health District inviting them to a meeting of the Sno-
homish County Solid Waste Disposal Steering Committee on Wednesday, November 29
at the PUD Auditorium in Everett beginning at 7:30 P.M.
However, Mr. Rodney D. Stroope,Chairman of the Snohomish County Solid Waste
Implementation Committee, was present and gave a presentation to council on a
proposed solid waste program, showing proposed landfill location areas and pickup
stations. He stated the purpose was to try to find if there was interest from the
Snohomish County cities to find ways to take care of the solid waste problem, and
the monies needed to operate a system. He hoped for one coordinating effort
throughout the county, including the City of Everett, and felt grant money would
• then be available. He suggested that Edmonds include monies for this effort in
the budget, if interested, to join with the other Snohomish County cities in im-
plementing a program. In answer to Councilman Haines' comment that Edmonds has
an agreement with Sound and Apex Disposal Companies for exclusive rights for a five
year period on collection, Mr. Stroope said that the county was not!.interested in
the collection, but in the location and operation of sites. Councilman Gellert
commented on the possibility of re -cycling, and this was briefly discussed.
Following the presentation, a motion was made by Councilman Haines, seconded by
Councilman Winters that the Edmonds City Council go on record as supporting the
Solid Waste Disposal problem and will give serious consideration to participation
in a countywide program. Motion carried.
SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER M & 0 AGREEMENT
This item having come before council earlier in the evening, it was now reported
that the agreement could possibly be taken care of in approximately three weeks.
Therefore, Councilman Gellert made a motion, seconded by Councilman Nelson to
reconsider Agenda Item Number 9 and reset the date for continuance to the meeting
of December 19. Motion carried.
SET DATES FOR FINAL ASSESSMENT ROLL HEARINGS
With the recommendation of the City Engineer, it was moved by Councilman Tuson,
seconded by Councilman Nordquist that the hearing on the final assessment roll for
LID 4185 be set for January 16, and the hearing on the final assessment roll for
LID #172 be set for January 23, and the motion carried.
STAFF REPORT TO COUNCIL ON REQUEST OF.APEX GARBAGE CO. FOR RATE INCREASE
• Finance Director Allen Tuttle reported that the City has no cause to intercede in
the rates of the garbage companies, and it was moved by Councilman Nordquist,
seconded by Councilman Tuson to drop this item from the council agenda. Motion
carried.
REQUEST OF UNION OIL FOR CITY OF EDMONDS WATER SUPPLY
Because of the late hour, Councilman Tuson moved, seconded by Councilman Nordquist
that this agenda item #16 be postponed to the November 28 council agenda, and the
motion carried.
Councilman Nordquist then moved ;to adjourn, and wished everyone a very happy
Thanksgiving.
Meeting adjourned at 11:05 P.M.
Irene Varney Moran City Clerk
November 27, 1972
POT.T. CAT.T.
Harve H. Harrison, Mayor
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order by Mayor Harve
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Harrison with all council members present except Councilmen Nelson and Winters.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the meeting of November 21 had been posted and distributed and with
no corrections nor omissions, they were approved as written.
COUNCIL PARTICIPATION
Councilwoman Shippen noted that the material she had submitted to the council members
on the Paine Field Study was simply for their information. It was forecast data
outlining five possible ways to develop Snohomish County Airport. -
Councilman Gellert asked that the revenue sharing portion of the budget be handled
as a separate item during the Final Budget Hearing. Mayor Harrison assured him
that this would be done.
Mayor Harrison said he has the draft of the Animal Birth Control Agreement, which
was written to coincide very closely with the present Edmonds -Everett agreement.
The latter agreement provided for holding dogs for a period of three days and no
time for cats. During discussion of this new agreement Mayor Harrison said he
would like to see a holding period of seven -,days for all animals. He asked for
council concurrence, which was obtained. The agreement will be modified to contain
this provision.
Mayor Harrison announced that there will be a broadcast by Harry Reasoner on ABC
from 8:30 to 9:00 P.M. next Monday night. The subject of the program will be,
"Exploring the social causes of vandalism and the impact it has on the quality of
our Life". •
BUDGET REQUEST FROM REPRESENTATIVE OF SNOHOMISH COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH
PLANNING COUNCIL (WILLIAM WILSON)
Mr. Frank Wiley stated that he was present as Mr. Wilson was unable -to attend the
meeting. Mr. Wiley said that he is a resident of Edmonds and a member of the
Snohomish County Health Planning Council. In order to clarify the reason for
requesting funds to assist them in the continuation of the services of the council,
he introduced Mr. Bill Hogarty, Director of the.Puget Sound Regional Planning
Council, to explain their position.
Mr. Hogarty said this organization is a federation of four county planning councils
ie., Snohomish, Kitsap, King and Pierce. This council is an effort to bring
together the "providers" of medical service and the "consumers", or people who
pay for these services. The aim is to improve the health care system without
going to a national health care system, as is done in some other nations. Mr. Hogarty
mentioned that some of their objectives for this year center around hospitals
and nursing homes. The reason for concentrating on these services is a recent
law put into effect called the "certificate of need" law. Under the provisions
of this law, a hospital or nursing home planning expansion of their facilities,
must demonstrate a community need for construction of additional facilities. The
law states that the local health planning agency is to study these applications
and make recommendations to the state. Since August 1971 they have reviewed 35
such applications and the state has refused only one. Mr. Hogarty stated that
they are making a number of requests for funds, and said further that their budget
for this coming year is $305,000. Of this they have a federal grant that provides
about 57%. This year $18,000 came from the State. There is a balance of $102,000
which will have to be obtained from local communities. They have.been assisted •
by various hospital councils and other health groups and last year and this year.
by a number of municipalities also. Mr. Hogarty said he would like to request
financial assistance from the City of Edmonds based on a rate of 1(t per capita.
He said he would leave several copies of their monthly report and other data
explaining their program. In closing, Mr. Hogarty mentioned that a new respon-
sibility is coming to them with the passage of HR 1. In a sense this is a
national certificate of need law which says that hospital, nursing homes and
health maintenance organizations will have to get a review for capital expenditures
in excess of $100,000. This review is to ascertain whether these proposed expendi-
tures are in line with the overall health plan for the area. This law goes into
effect on December 31, 1972.
Mayor Harrison said he was wondering if this is a group of professional people
planning to spend public money to improve their own facilities. Mr. Hogarty
assured him that this was not the case. Mr. Hogarty said this would be on an
annual basis, so based on Edmonds' population of 24,000, this would amount to
approximately $240.00. Mayor Harrison thanked Mr. Hogarty for his presentation
and no action was taken at this time.
SIDEWALK ORDINANCE REPORT ON PHASES I AND II - CON'D. FROM OCT. 31)
Dick Allen, Assistant City Engineer, briefly reviewed the report he made previously
on Phase I of the'sidewalk study. He referred to a map on the wall noting that
the majority of the city has no walkway network whatsoever. Phase II has two
segments (1) adopting a general policy and (2) preparing a public information
program. Phase III was the preparation of a comprehensive plan and implementing
it. In looking ahead to the future, Mr. Allen noted that we are concerned with
two areas having completely different characteristics. The first one is the
--downtown "bowl" and the second, the outlying areas where there is a gross lack of
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sidewalk facilities. He said there has been some contact with the State Highway
Department regarding the possibility of forming an LID for installation of concrete
sidewalks and their participation in some form of preparing the base or actually
doing the work. At this point Mayor Harrison asked if the State Highway, had
plans to put in asphalt sidewalks. Mr. Allen replied that the type of walkways
they are putting in are not the best in the world and that they have shorter life
than the concrete sidewalks.
Mr. Allen stated that he felt at this time we should get into portions of Phase II
and then into Phase III as we continue on. Mr. Allen passed out some rough drafts
of material to be used in the public information program. One of these items was
a sample letter to be sent to civic organizations; another was a news release;
and another was a sample letter to be sent to property owners requesting sidewalk
construction and/or repair and finally, an informational pamphlet. All of this
is intended to generate public interest and encourage people to attend meetings
to discuss the problem and offer their suggestions. At this point, said Mr. Allen,
we should consider adopting two general policies: (1) That walkways are necessary
for safety, convenience, comfort and attractiveness of the community and (2) That
a Comprehensive Walkway Plan should be developed for the City of Edmonds. He said
further that after a three to five month period we should have a fairly well thought
out program for walkways throughout the city which would form the basis for adopting
new policies. Mr. Allen said they are continually gathering information throughout
the community and the country and he would now like the feeling of the council
on continuing with this program.
Councilman Tuson asked if the city has an ordinance on the books covering sidewalk
maintenance and repair. Mr. Allen answered that we do, but it is difficult to
• enforce as, for instance, many times the property owner does not have the money needed
to make -the repairs. Councilman Tuson said if it cannot be enforced we might as
well throw it out. Councilwoman .Shippen asked if there are certain requirements to
be met in making these repairs. Mr. Allen replied that there are, but the average
homeowner can do them. Councilman Gellert suggested that it might be -a good idea
to get all the existing sidewalks in good condition before we embark on a new
program. Councilman Nordquist said he though we were embarking on a complete
review of our sidewalk program and perhaps this is the time to take an overall
look at it, including existing ordinances. Councilman Nordquist therefore made
a motion seconded by Councilwoman Shippen that we should implement a cogwehensive
sidewalk, pathway and bicycle path study within three to five months. After
considerable discussion, the motion carried. Following this, Councilman Nordquist
made another motion seconded by Councilman Gellert to instruct the City Engineer
to, .within 45 days, present to the City Council all existing ordinances or
recommended ordinance changes regarding -the maintenance of existing sidewalks in
the City of Edmonds. This motion also carried.
REQUEST OF UNION OIL FOR -CITY OF EDMONDS WATER SUPPLY
Dick Allen, Assistant City Engineer, reported that a letter had been received
from Union Oil stating that they have received notice from the Olympic View
Water District that maintenance of the water line that serves their facility
has become an extreme burden on the Olympic View Water District and, therefore,
Union is requesting connection to the City of Edmonds Water System. Mr. Allen
read a memo from the City Engineer addressed to the Mayor and Council which stated
in part the following facts:
(a) Presently the City is providing -alternate water service
to Union Oil at a monthly rate of $45.00.
• (b) The additional lines required in Third Avenue and in Pine
Street,to the Union Oil property are estimated to cost
$129000 - $15,000 (chargeable to Union Oil).
(c) It is considered that the installation of a 1.5 million
gallon tank to adequately supply Union Oil will not effect
other city water service demands.
City -Engineer, Leif Larson, also requested in this memo guidance from the council
prior to answering the letter, as to whether there are any objections to serving
Union Oil with water without annexation. Another question was whether we could
serve them without annexation based upon a.one and one-half (11) increase in
the normal service charge for property outside the City? Following considerable
discussion regarding water line sizes and rates, Councilman Gellert made a motion
seconded by Councilman Nordquist that the City prepare a new meter use schedule
to cover all possible sizes of water meters in the future where out of city users
will pay 50% more for water meter use than in -city users. Following some discussion
the motion carried with Councilwoman Shippen abstaining. Councilman Gellert
then made another motion seconded by Councilman Tuson that the City serve the
Union Oil property outside of city at same water rates as other residents in
city provided Union Oil pays for all the capital improvements needed to bring
lines of proper size to their water meter. A roll call vote resulted in a yes
vote from Councilmen Gellert and Tuson, a no vote from Councilmen Nordquist and
Haines, and Councilwoman Shippen abstaining. Mayor Harrison voted yes, and the
motion carried. Councilman Haines asked if we are setting a new policy that we
will extend services outside the city. Mayor Harrison said any requests of that
kind -would be up to council discretion.
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PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WESTMONT VIEW - 22 LOTS ON NORTH SIDE OF 164th S.W. AT 72ND
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City Planner, Merlin Logan, explained that this plat had come before council last
August under the name Johnson -Miller Plat and was passed at that time. After
that time the developers thought they had an adequate amount of land to ask for
a revised plat. This was again submitted to the Planning Commission on -November 8.
It was then approved subject to engineering and planning requirements. Mr. Logan
asked the council to recall that in August it was stipulated that the approval
was subject to all lots being sewered. He said the present design is similar to
that plan and meets all zoning requirements. There are steep portions and some
drainage problems, and all lots cannot be sewered, but will have to be pumped up
to the sewer. Mr. Logan stated that if the council did not wish to authorize
pumping those lots, they would have to remain undeveloped until such time as
they can be sewered. _These followed some discussion on the design of the plat
with regard to the streets. Councilman Haines made a motion seconded by Councilman
Nordquist that the preliminary plat of Westmont View be approved subject to
engineering requirements and that all improvements placed on lots be sewered..
The motion carried with Councilman Gellert voting no.
FURTHER DISCUSSION ON TRANSIT SYSTEM
Mr. Vic Sood, Mountlake Terrace Transportation Planner, submitted paperwork`to
the council showing the formula used for quoting the costs and estimates of the
Edmonds share of the deficit based on the Metro fare structure. Based on the
Metro fare, Edmonds' share of the deficit was estimated at $12,000 and based on
maintaining the existing fare the estimate was $7,000. Metro has come up with
a new time schedule which will add two more runs to Seattle and one run from
Bon Marche'in Northgate to Edmonds and back. All busses serving Edmonds will
return to the barn on Atlantic Street in Seattle. There was some discussion
on the number of persons using this bus service, after which Mayor Harrison said
it would be well for the city to establish a position on this matter. His own
thinking is that this is too big an expense for such a small percentage of
people using this service, and a large portion would have to drive to some point
to pick up this service.. It was his thought that they might as well drive to
Aurora Village. He said he would rather see money spent on a mini -bus system
and Mr. Sood said he would agree, but that this would take time. Mr. Sood said
that if the busses were parked overnight in Edmonds there could be a considerable
reduction in our share of the deficit. He estimated this saving to be in the
neighborhood of $3,000 to $4,000. There was considerable discussion on the
possibility of reducing the number of trips per day and leaving the fare at 80(r7
or reducing the fare to 50q: to encourage increased patronage. Holding an election
to get a vote from the public was also discussed and the Mayor remarked that perhaps
this would be expensive too, since the city would have to pay for the cost of
the election. Councilman Haines said this election could be run in conjunction with the
school election which would reduce the cost. The council said they would like to
look into this matter further, and it was suggested that CAO Whaley attend
the Thursday meeting with Metro and report back to the council. Mayor Harrison
said it might be a good idea. to get a consensus from the council regarding who is
in favor of the existing bus fare of 800." and who desires lowering the fare to 50(t.
Councilman Tuson, Gellert and Nordquist favored the 80(t fare and Councilwoman
Shippen and'Councilman Haines favored the 50(Z fare.
RECREATION FEES - ROD GARRETSON
Mr. Garretson, Director of Parks and Recreation, stated that the cities of Lynnwood,
Mountlake Terrace and Edmonds are trying to put together a common recreation
program and a common bulletin. They feel they can more efficiently serve the
South County Area this way. The only obstacle to the full implementation of
this program is the out -of -city fee charged by Mountlake Terrace and Edmonds.
It is hoped that by eliminating this fee more South County residents will be
encouraged to utilize the recreation programs provided by these cities. Mr.
Garretson said he has had preliminary word that the County would be interested
in cooperating monetarily in this program to help support those people from
the county areas. Councilman Haines made a motion seconded by Councilwoman
Shippen that for a one year trial period we eliminate out-of-town fees on
recreation programs. On call for the question the motion carried.
CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES
The Council. acknowledged receipt of a claim from E. T. Reed in the amount of
$46.47 and one from Dominic A. Otter in the amount of $23.63. These were referred
to the City Clerk for processing.
MAYOR'S SALARY
Chet Bennett, Edmonds attorney, said he would like the council to consider a
raise in salary for the Mayor. He stated that he had done some investigation
and recommended an increase of $3600, which would bring the total annual salary
to $9600 per year. He asked that the council consider this proposal before the
Final Budget Hearing scheduled for Friday night, December 1. Councilman Gellert
remarked that the council members spend about half that time themselves on city
matters after hours.
There being no further business to come before council, the meeting was adjourned
at 10:00 P.M.
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