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19731120 City Council Minutes• November 20, 1973 fll ROT.T. C AT.T. The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Mayor Harve Harrison; with all six council members present. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Minutes of the work meeting of November 13 had been posted, mailed and distri-­- btuted, and with no omissions nor corrections, they were approved as written. COUNCIL PARTICIPATION Councilwoman Shippen noted that under agenda item #11 this evening, she noticed two more.street use applications, and since these seemed to be appearing before council with increasing frequency lately, she wondered if they shouldn't be re- viewed by the new Design Committee,.and suggested that these should be taken care of with advice from that body. Councilman Gellert mentioned that he personally felt that the agendas for the 'otk. meetings were too full, and not enough time was left for council discussion; he thought the work sessions had seemed more like regular meetings; and asked if the work agendas could be kept down in order to allow council discussion time. Councilwoman Shippen suggested that only council be allowed to put items on these work agendas. Councilman Gellert answered that it should be accomplished in some manner, and any presentations should be limited timewise. Councilman Nordquist agreed that agendas should be kept down, and this was noted by all concerned. • Mayor Harrison reported to council that he was sorry he did not have the budget message to present tonight. He stated that it would not be an agenda item, but that he would attach it to the budget when it was ready. LAKE BALLINGER CITIZENS' CONSERVATION PRESENTATION Mr. Bob Boye, 24325 - 76th W., was spokesman for this group of citizens from the Lake Ballinger area, who were,in attendance at this meeting. Mr. Boye explained that they would give a four-part presentation to the council and then make two specific requests. He noted that they were here tonight to express opposition to the plans for 236th which Mountlake Terrace hoped to have built next year at the north end of Lake Ballinger, and also to bring to council attention the pollution and causes in the Lake. Mr. Boye went on.to state that the residents in the area were concerned about the plans for the road, and also concerned about the environmental impact study that had been made by a firm for Mountlake Terrace. He felt that the Ballinger residents on the west side of the Lake did not have opportunity to make themselves heard by the city of Mountlake Terrace. Mr. Boye then turned the,presentation over to Ron Howard, 23823 - 74th W., who projected a map of the Ballinger and surrounding area on the screen. Mr. Howard spoke of the impact of 236th on the Ballinger and entire community; stating that the road would come to within 205 ft. of the lake. He noted that it was only one and a half miles from 205th to 220th, where the full interchange should be. He also brought to council attention the fact that in the impact statement that was made for Mountlake Terrace, there was mention made of school busses, and in fact there were no busses, since the children walk to school in this area. Mr. Howard explained about the effect on the noise pollution, traffic patterns, and algae growth in the lake. He noted that • surface runoff into the lake causes pollution, and additional asphalt would increase it. He stated that tie 'did not expect the city to stop 236th, but he had outlined some of the minor problems that can be taken care of. Carol Chapman then made a presentation for proposed action for the preservation of the Lake Ballinger basin. She stated that Edmonds must be more active to preserve this unique asset of the Lake and the surrounding green belt, and that Edmonds should work with the other governmental units when this whole basin is affected. She therefore stated that the Lake Ballinger Community Club recom- mended: (1) That the Edmonds City Council re-examine the implications of the proposed 236th-228th extension, to see if it is still pertinent to present day transportation plans. She felt there was no need for this road and urged the city to officially act to discourage it based on a re-evaluation of the needs of Edmonds. (2) That the City Council go on record as supporting southbound.. ramps at the 220th S.W. freeway interchange. She stated that she saw 220th as a viable alternative and the Snohomish County Transportation Plan calls for 220th southbound ramps. She stated that the residents here tonight urged that these ramps be built in the near future. (3) That the City Council read the environmental impact statement done by Stevens, Thompson, and Runyon to see its implications for Edmonds residents. There is already a four lane road (SR 104) south of the Lake, and do we really need another road north of the lake. (4) that the City Council undertake a joint study with Mountlake Terrace, Lynnwood, and Snohomish County to study the drainage into Lake Ballinger. (5) That the City Council install better filters in the present storm sewers flowing through Edmonds,to provide drainage safe -guards for the lake. Medford Hogman projected a'map on the screen, showing Edmonds areas surrounding the lake, as well as explaining impact of roads on these.. 9 50 n LJ Following these presentations there was council discussion and questions and answers between council and audience. Councilman Gellert wondered if when the Edmonds portion of 228th was built, wasn't there great concern if the Mountlake Terrace section was not built, that there would be mass traffic congestion on 76th. Councilman Nordquist stated that he would like to add a (6) item to Mrs. Chapman's list, to state that if the road does go through, some communi- cation should be sent to Mountlake Terrace to encourage it to keep the 236th ramp open. One gentleman in the audience disagreed with this. There then followed more discussion. Jim Chapman, 22321 - 75th W., stated that traffic patterns there now would probably be reduced if the south bound ramps were open. It was noted that the City of Edmonds has gone on record as supporting a full interchange on 220th. Councilman Nelson made a comparison of 236th and 76th, and said that you cannot have everything you would like, and which is worse, 76th or 236th. Mr. Boye answered that there was no comparison; that the 76th traffic flow is workable, reasonable, and he is impressed. He felt the residents would rather not have 236th, and keep 76th as it is. He added that 76th has not created a noise factor for people on the lake, and in their opinion, the impact was less for traffic flow on 76th than on 236th. Councilman Nelson then stated that they must feel that 76th is the lesser of the two evils. There was dis- cussion on the history of these planned thoroughfares and their impact on the communities. Ken Welling, in the audience, stated that money and engineers were needed to prepare a contrary environmental impact statement to Mountlake Terrace's statement, and that this would be the only way to stop it. Councilman Nelson felt council would have to convince the Highway Dept. to put 220th and 236th for use to get to the east, not to the west, and this logic might get them to change the plans rather than an environmental impact statement. Helen Michael, a resident of Mountlake Terrace, told council that the Urban Arterial Board was receptive to individuals and citizen input was effective. City Attorney James Murphy advised • that the council and residents of Ballinger should concern themselves with items not dealt with in the original environmental impact statement done by the firm for Mountlake Terrace, such as concern with that statement having dealt with factors east of the lake, and not west of the lake, for example. Mr. Boye suggested going to the UAB regarding the road, and have some members of the Edmonds council accompany them. Following further discussion, a motion was made by Councilman Anderson, seconded by Councilman Nordquist that the City of Edmonds again write to District 7 of the Highway Dept. to reiterate support of the diamond interchange at 220th and 1-5. This motion carried unanimously. Councilman Anderson then said council must be sure to hear a summary of the environmental impact statement before December 5, that had been submitted by Mountlake Terrace. City Planner Joe Wallis noted that Kay Shoudy had made a summary of this study and it would be typed by and distributed to council. It was moved by Councilman Anderson, seconded by Councilman Nordquist to set November 27 as the date to have a Staff report on the environmental impact study on 236th as submitted by Mountlake Terrace. Motion carried unanimously. Councilman Gellert then suggested attending the Mountlake Terrace city council meeting regarding this item, and it was decided that their council members on one of their agendas for this purpose. Councilmen Gellert, Nordquist, and Nelson said they would like to attend. In regard to an item in Mrs. Chapman's presentation, a motion was made by Council- man Nordquist, seconded by Councilman Anderson that council instruct the City Engineer to study the problem of the drainage into Lake Ballinger jointly with • Mountlake Terrace, Lynnwood, and both King and Snohomish Counties, as these studies become available. Motion carried. It was also moved by Councilman Nordquist, seconded by Councilman Anderson, that in connection with item 5 in the presentation the City Engineer be instructed to study the filter -problem in the present storm sewers flowing through Edmonds and draining into the lake and to study this with the State Highway Department, and report back to council within 60 days. Motion carried. Mr. Hogman suggested that it might be wise to find out the effect on Halls Lake when the Chase Lake area is sewered. PARKVIEW FIRS City Planner Joe Wallis stated that again at the request of the applicant, this item be delayed. It was decided to delete it from council agendas until such time as the applicant makes a request. APPROVAL OF FINAL PLAT - TALL FIRS City Planner Joe Wallis turned the presentation over to Engineer Leif Larson, who explained that some improvements were already in and there was bonding for completion. Therefore, based on this, he recommended approval of the final plat. A motion was made by Councilman Nelson, seconded by Councilman Gellert to approve the final plat of Tall Firs, subject to any engineering requirements. Motion carried. APPROVAL OF FINAL PLAT - SEAVIEW FIRS City Engineer Larson stated that with the improvements that are in, and bonding for the remainder, he recommended approval of this plat. E • 51 A motion was made by Councilman Nelson, seconded by Councilman Gellert to approve the final plat of Seaview Firs, subject to all engineering requirements. Motion carried. APPLICATION FOR STREET USE PERMIT: FOGCUTTER RESTAURANT An application had been received for a sign for the Fog Cutter Restaurant, 3rd and Main. City Engineer Leif Larson recommended approval based on other similar signs in the downtown area. There followed discussion on the number of street use permit applications that have come before council just lately, and there was thought that these perhaps should be held until the Amenities Design Board could have chance to review them. However, it was also mentioned that a cutoff date should -be set for this procedure, and that it might seem discriminatory to delay these on the agenda tonight, when others have been acted upon at previous meetings. It was then moved by Councilman Nordquist, seconded by Councilman Nelson to approve the street use application for a sign as noted for the Fog Cutter Restaurant at 3rd and Main, and this be approved on condition that the applicant indemnify and hold the city harmless from all claims arising out of the use and provide adequate insurance for public liability and/or property damage, naming the city as an also insured. A roll call vote was taken, and the motion carried with Councilman Nelson, Nordquist, Anderson and Winters in favor; Gellert and Councilwoman Shippen against. APPLICATION FOR STREET USE PERMIT: THE CHRISTMAS COTTAGE • City Engineer Leif Larson recommended approval of the request for a canopy over the sidewalk at the Christmas Cottage, 527 Dayton. A motion was made by Councilman Nelson, seconded by Councilman Nordquist to approve the application for the canopy as noted, for The Christmas Cottage at 527 Dayton, and this also be approved on condition that the applicant indemnify and hold the city harmless from all claims arising out of the use and provide adequate insurance for public liability and/or property damage, naming the city as an also insured. This motion also carried, with Gellert and Shippen voting against. Councilwoman Shippen then made a motion, seconded by Councilman Gellert that council not consider any more of these street use applications as of now, and refer them to the Amenities Design Board for review and a report back to council with the Board's recommendations on each application. Motion carried.* CORRESPONDENCE Mayor Harrison reported that a letter had been received from -Dave Thompson of the Boundary Review Board, asking for a recommendation of someone to fill the vacancy created by the unexpired term of Don Lawson. Gordon Maxwell had been serving on the Board, and the Mayor noted that he recommended that Gordon Maxwell be appointed to the other term. Mayor Harrison reported on a letter received from James W. Garrison, 8120-187th S.W., expressing his concern with the energy crisis, and asking if Edmonds could possibly adopt a program of reduced street lighting. Councilman Gellert stated that he felt reduced lighting would not be safe in residential areas, especially where there are no sidewalks, and he said that he had discussed reduced lighting with PUD • officials, and felt any saving here would not be great. City Engineer Larson noted that Edmonds' light intensity is lower than the minimum standards. GRADE RESOLUTION FOR SECTION OF SR 104 City Engineer Leif Larson reported that the State Highway Dept. has requested that the City of Edmonds adopt a grade resolution for the section of SR 104 from 5th Avenue to 100th Ave. W. City Attorney James Murphy presented a proposed resolution, and it was moved by Councilman Nelson, seconded by Councilman Nordquist that proposed Resolution #287 be passed, adopting the grade on this section of highway, and the motion carried. CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES A claim for damages was acknowledged from Phillip G. Escandon, and this was referred to the City Clerk for processing. BUDGET REVIEW It was noted that another council session should be spent on the review of the proposed 1974 budget, and it was moved by Councilman Nordquist, seconded by Councilman Nelson to set this review for Thursday evening, November 29 at 7:00 P.M. Motion carried. AUTHORIZATION FOR CALL FOR BIDS - BULKHEAD AT SENIOR CENTER City Engineer Larson requested that council set a bid date for the contract to rebuild the existing bulkhead at the South County Senior Center, and suggested December 13. 40 n LJ A motion was made by Councilman Nordquist, seconded by Councilman Gellert that December 13 be set for opening of bids on the rebuilding of the bulkhead at the' South Senior Center, and the motion carried. There was no further business to come before council, and the meeting was adjourned at 10:00 P.M. Irene Varney Mori, City Clerk HarVe H. Harrison, Mayor November 27, 1973 RnT.T. CAT.T. The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Mayor Harve Harrison, with all six council members present. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Minutes of the meeting of November 20 had been posted, mailed and distributed. Councilwoman Shippen said that she would like to'clarify a statement made on page 4, second paragraph from the bottom which refers to street use applications. She would like it to read, "...council not consider any more above ground level street use applications....". The minutes were then approved as corrected. COUNCIL PARTICIPATION • Councilman Nelson stated that he would like the members of the council to start thinking about establishing a Blue Ribbon Committee, appointed by the council, to study the Mayor's position. He thought perhaps each council member could suggest two people to serve on this committee. This committee would bring back recommendations prior to the Fall election in 1974 as to the time involvement necessary for the Mayor, salary recommendations, etc. He said he would be prepared to make a motion on this matter on December 10th. Councilwoman Shippen asked if we could, at the same time, consider other alternatives to our present form of government. Councilman Nelson said yes as part of the study to be made by this committee would be to consider changing or strengthening our present form of government, or completely re=structuring. Councilman Gellert thought that we should discuss whether or not to establish this Blue Ribbon Committee on the 10th, but that we should delay actually appointing people to serve on the committee to a later time. In answer to a question from Councilman"Gellert Attorney John Wallace, replied that the council can appoint committee for special study purposes. Councilman Gellert said that he had discussed the gasoline shortage with Chief Foster. Councilman Gellert said that he thought any new vehicles purchased by the city should be of the smallest size possible to do the job for which it is intended. Chief Foster had thought perhaps this would be feasible. He said a fuel saving could be realized this way, and also the vehicles could be less expensive. Councilwoman Shippen said that she had noted in the CDC Minutes that an environ- mental impact study will be necessary on 196th and 220th. She asked who is doing this. Engineer Leif Larson replied that this is being handled through the consulting engineer. Mr. Larson said he felt it would be some time before 196th • world be done, as they have found that the traffic there is over 20,000 which would necessitate air and noise pollution studies. This requires another special consultant. Mrs. Shippen asked if the consultant had been made aware that we may be asking for more right-of-way? Mr. Larson said that we have asked that they make a preliminary design and then it will be brought back to the city council so that the council can go over what they have, what they want and what the problems are. Councilman Gellert inquired when the council would be asked to vote on appointments to the Amenities Design Board? The Mayor replied that this would be after the first of the year. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION Dewey Leyda expressed his displeasure with the pipe railing that had been put on top of the bulkhead across the street from his home on Sunset Avenue. Mrs. Jane Cunninghamy:, 1030 Grandview, stated that she has again come to council asking for help with a drainage situation near her home. She appeared before council on the 12th of December, 1972 regarding the same matter. Mrs. Cunningham read a portion of the minutes of that date, wherein she had explained the problem of drainage, etc. She said the city did put in extensive drainage down the street, so that her neighbors, the Phillips! and the Herbs no longer have a problem. She said the roof drainage has not been taken care of and is still emptying down the back of the convenience store. Mrs. Cunningham also said that nothing has been done to the berm, so that water is not directed to 0