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RESOLUTIONS FOR 196TH STREET S. W. FROM 77TH AVE..W. TO 81ST AVE. W.
Engineer Larson explained that the.UAB likes to have agencies acting jointly
with them on projects, authorize condemnation by resolution in the event they
have problems with right-of-way acquisition. Councilwoman Shippen asked what
the condemenation costs would be for this project. Mr. Larson said that they
have an estimate of $187,000 for right-of-way acquistition from 64th to 81st.
Councilman Nordquist asked what the formula is by which Edmonds pays on the
overrun. Engineer Larson stated that Edmonds would pay a pro rata share based
on the street frontage within the municipality on the projects. This has been
done on all UAB projects since 1967. On this project it runs 72.2% for Lynnwood
MOTION:
and 27.8% for Edmonds. COUNCIL NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NELSON
TO PASS RESOLUTION #309 AUTHORIZING CONDEMNATION FOR ACQUISITION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY.
FOLLOWING A ROLL.CALL VOTEI THE MOTION CARRIED WITH COUNCILWOMAN SHIPPEN VOTING
AGAINST. COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NELSON TO PASS
RESOLUTION #310 CERTIFYING AS TO ADDITIONAL FUNDING BY THE CITY IN SUPPORT OF THE
IMPROVEMENT OF 196TH'FROM 64TH TO 81ST, MOTION CARRIED.
COUNCIL ACCEPTANCE OF CONTRACT WORK BY UTILITIES DEVELOPMENTmt,IN0` ON L.I.D.
192 - CHASE LAKE SEWERS.
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Engineer Larson reported that this project has been completed, except for
five small restoration items. He felt these could be completed during the
retainage period. He -.indicated that the people in the area have been allowed
to connect to the sewer as portions were completed. Councilman Welling thought
it was not a.good idea to accept the work as final until all work has been
completed. Engineer Larson explained that if you hold up, you are also extend-
ing the interest time on the money that is being used to finance the L.T.D.
Following further discussion, COUNCILMAN NELSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
NORDQUISMPTO ACCEPT THE CONTRACT WORK BY UTILITIES DEVELOPMENT ON LID 1921
AND THE THIRTY DAY RETAINAGE PERIOD BEGIN. CARRIED
CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES
Council acknowledged receipt of the Claim for Damges of Robert Martin in the
amount of $32.81. This was referred to the City Clerk's Office for processing.
There being no futher business to come before council, the meeting adjourned
at 8:50 P.M.
ELEANOR QUEAMY, Dep City Clerk
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July 23, 1974
ROLL CALL
HARVE H. HARRISON, Mayor
The regular meeting of the EdmondsGj:ty,:.Council was called -to order at 7:30 P.M.
by Mayor Harve Harrison. All council members were present, except Gellert and
Winters.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the meeting of July 16th had been posted, mailed and distributed,
and with no omissions nor corrections, they were approved as written.
COUNCIL PARTICIPATION
Councilman Anderson noted for the record that he would be absent next week.
He also thanked the Engineering Department for the fluoridation map, and said
that he hoped the press would make use of it to inform the public about the
areas which are receiving fluoridated water and those that are not.
Councilman Welling mentioned that he had received complaints from citizens
regarding the -large pile of gravel located at 76th West and Highway 99.
Ciyt Engineer, Leif Larson, stated that he would contact the Highway,Department
about this.
Councilman Nordquist stated that he had noticed in the Amed.nities Design Board
Minutes that a restaurant'is being considered for Highway 99 and 244th. Kay
Shoudy; Assistant Planner, stated that we do have an application for grading
permit, and that a restaurant is being considered for that location. She stated
that the parking lot and the landscaping will be under city jurisdiction only.
Councilman Nordquist then said he would like to "de -annex" the area. City
Attorney, John Wallace, stated that such a procedure would take a special election.
Councilman Nelson stated for the record that he did not listen to the Blue Ribbon
Committee tapes; he was not given that opportunity.. Councilman Anderson stated
that he is not clear -as to the dispostion of the tapes. Jim Mueller, who acted
as chairman of that committee,, said -that those tapes were made for the benefit
of the committee, merely for review, and for review by.members of the committee
that were absent from certain meetings. He said that persons who spoke before
the committee were told that the recorder would be turned off if they desired,
but that the committee would like to have a record for their use. Dr. Mueller
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said that without any direction from the council as to•how they were to operate,
they would like to maintain their position that the contents of the tapes is
privileged information. He said they would like to have official recognition of
that, so that they can make apprpriate dispostion of the tapes. Dr. Mueller
mentioned that he had placed a letter, signed by eleven members of the Blue
Ribbon Committee, in the council boxes. The letter requested that the Committee
postion concerning the recordings be respected by the council. Councilman
Nelson asked the City Attorney -what the postion of the city is with regard to
thetapes that were used by the Blue Ribbon Committee. Attorney Wallace angwef€d
that thetapes themselves are the property of the city; whether or not the
council desires to publish the tapes is entirely -up to the discretion of the
council. Councilman Nelson said that perhaps adequate instruction was not
given to the Committee, and'he hoped that the -confidence and trust of the citizens
of Edmonds would be maintained and the image of the City's-procedures and methods
be maintaned. He said he respects the felling*of the Committee in this regard,
and suggested that Dr. Mueller deliver the tapes to the City"Attorney, who in
turn will authenticate the tapes, and then both gentlemen-proceed-with"erasing
the tapes. He brought a device to accomplish this.- Mayor Harrison said that he
thought the tapes should be available for those perso,nS,,.who were involved in
the study; and that he personally would like to hear -them. He said further that
newspaper stories have indicated that peopeecould be hurt if the tapes were released.
He said he could not understand how anyoone could be hurt by talking about various
forms of government. Maybelle Chapman commented that the issue is one of confidence
and urged that the tapes be erased. Councilman Nordquist stated that he acted
as chairman of the Blue Ribbon Committee for the first two or three meetings
(until they appointed their own permanent chairman); and that he had brought
tapes to the meeting to be used.as a secretarial means to obtain minutes, and
for review by absent committee members. He also urged that the tapes be erased.
After some discussion, the Mayor suggested that the Committee Chairman deliver •
the tapes to the City'Clerk. However, Dr. Mueller said he would prefer to wait
until the City Attorney is available. The City Attorney had indicated that he
would be out of town for the next few days. Following further discussion, a
MOTION: MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON THAT
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE DELIVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ALL THE
TAPES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE COMMITTEE STUDY, AND THAT IN THE PRESENCE OF
BOTH GENTLEMEN THAT THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE TAPES BE DETERMINED, AND THEN IN
THE PRESENCE OF THE SAME GENTLEMENT, THE TAPES BE DESTROYED. MOTION CARRIED.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Maybelle Chapman asked if the city is planning to put up signs at the inter-
section 212th and 76th which would indicate which lanes people should use
to make turning movements. Engineer Larson stated that this is only a temporary
situation as there will be a new signal going in there. He said the traffic
will move one way at the time.
A gentleman in the audience asked about Dayton Avenue at the railroad tracks,
and wondered if it could be filled in a little. Mr. Larson said that Public
works. does this p�erdlicall,:.
TRUCK LOAD LIMITS
Polcie Chief Foster, stated that there had been a request for an amendment
to our commercial vehicle prohibition on certain streets. He said that '.the
ordinance previosly called for a specific gross weight and it has been asked that
it be changed to licensed gross weight._ Councilwoman Shippen inquired about
the "certain" streets. Engineer Larson stated that certain streets can be covered
by sufficient vote of the council. Following considerable discussion, a -.MOTION •
MOTION: WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON TO PASS
ORDINANCE #1721, PROHIBITING THE USE OF CERTAIN STREETS BY COMMERCIAL VEHICLES
WITH A LICENSED GROSS WEIGHT EXCEEDING 10,000 POUNDS. MOTION CARRIED.
ENGINEER'S REPORT ON UNDERGROUNDING ESTIMAT FROM PUD AND TELEPHONE CO. -
5TH SIDEWALKS
Engineer Larson stated that Mr. Reis of'the P.U.D. indicated that it would take
ten more days to have the estimate on the undergrounding completed, and asked
that this be re -scheduled for August 6th.• However, it was pointed out that the
MOTION: agenda for the 6th is quite full. It was, therefore, MOVED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST
AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NELSON TO SET THIS ITEM FOR THE 13TH OF AUGUST.
MOTION CARRIED.
PRELIMINARY PLAT - SEAVIEW VILLAGE, 12 LOTS, ANDOVER STEET - FILE P-5-74
Assistant City Planner, Kay L. Shoudy, reported that the applicant is Bjorn
Thuesen; and that the application had been heard by the Planning Commission on
June 19th, and the Commission approved the plat subject to planning and engineering
requirements and imposed a more restriCtive tree cutting restriction -than was
required in the ordinance. Mrs. Shoudy then showed slides of the plat and
the neighborhood and sketches showing the comprehensive planning in the area.
She stated that the access is on Andover Street and that there would be no
significant environmental impact. She said the staff would recommend approval,
subject to the conditions recommended by the Planning Commission.
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City Engineer, Leif Larson, stated that they recommend a 50, right-of-way
and a standard turnaround. He felt that a 281'street width would be appropriate.
He said there has been some question on the paving of Andover.Street. He said
they have not requirErd that it be paved'•due to the fact that the water lines
are due to be replaced within the next two years. He said there is some storm
drainage problem in the area, however, the drainage problems will be worked out
when the engineering is completed. There was general discussion on the streets
and the possibility of forming an LID to improve Andover.
A gentleman in the audiene stated that he -represented the residents in the area;
-and they did not want to form a LID. Mrs. Struck of 18000 Andover
was concerned
about the drainage in the area and"thought there should be no paving until the
storm sewers are in: Following more discussion, Mr. Thuesen stated that City
•.-Planner;
Joe Wallis, was working on new street standards that will cover everything
that had -been discussed during the evening, and that he would be glad to come
back in after the engineering and planning have been done for this project.
MOTION:
COUNCILMAN NELSON THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON TO APPROVE THE
PRELIMINARY PLAT OF SEAVIEW VILLAGE WITH THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY ENGINEER TO
APPLY THE STANDARDS AT THE TIME THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE ENGINEERING TAKE PLACE.
MOTION CARRIED.
PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR ASSESSING CHARGES FOR FINGERPRINTING SERVICES
Chief Foster stated that the Police Department is doing five of six hundred
sets of c�ingerprints during a year, and that this measure is necessary to keep
MOTION: pace with other agencies. COUNCILMAN NELSON MOVED,'SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
NORDQUIST TO -PASS ORDINANCE #1722 ESTABLISHING A $2.00 FEE FOR FINGERPRINTING
SERVICES. MOTION CARRIED.
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AUTHORIZATION FOR MAYOR TO EXECUTEAAGREEMENTFPOR55TATE.�5rPRRTICIP..ATTQN
IN TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION AT 220TH AND HIGHWAY 99.
MOTION: COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST-MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NELSON TO AUTHORIZE THE
MAYOR TO SIGN THE ABOVE -MENTIONED AGREEMENT. MOTION CARRIED.
CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES
A Claim for Damages was received and acknowledged from Brent F. Tugby. This
was refereed to the City Clerk for processing.
There being no further business to come befor council, the meeting was
adjourned at 9:20 P.M.
ELEANOR QUEAIAY, Depu City Clerk HARVEHH. HARRISON, Mayor
July 30, 1974
ROLL CALL
The work meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:30 P.M.
by Mayor Harve Harrison, with all council members present except Anerson and
Welling.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
• Minutes of the meeting of July 23rd had been posted, mailed and distributed,
and with no omissions nor corrections, they were approved as written.
COUNCIL PARTICIPATION
Councilman Gellert stated that he would like -the Planning Commission Minutes to
refer to the resolution number of each item under consideration. Attorney Wallace
pointed out that the resolutions note the file number and the date of the Planning
Commission Hearing. Council agendas will also note this.
Councilwoman Shippen stated that she would like to refer to her latest request
of July 9th when she asked to have council policy established with regard to
Street Use Permits. She asked Mr. Larson what type of permit would require
council guidance. He said that the ones involving construction; but that he
would like a policy established-forst!asonal permits , such as small displays
of merchandise, or small tables, etc. Mr. Larson pointed out that he has never
had a complaint on such things. Councilman Nelson asked what things would be
discouraged. Engineer Larson replied that he would disapprove of anything foreign
to the store in front of which the activity is placed. In setting a policy, he
said he -would consider health problems, obstruction, fire hazards, all use of
corners, clutter, etc. He suggested, also, setting out uses that are aesthetically
acceptable. Councilman Nelson asked if the time of -year should be considered
and what zone in which -this would be permitted. -Mr. Larson stated that summer
seems to be the only time we get such requests and that the zoning would be
community business. Following more discussion, it was thought that between now
and next summer, the couLail could come up.with some -plan and perhaps a pilot
ordinance.
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