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ENGINEER'S REPORT ON PROPERTY APPRAISAL OF SITE ON 84TH W. RIGHT-OF=WAY
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City Engineer, Leif Larson reported on this item, however if was suggested that
this.matter be postponed until there is'.a full council presento Mr. Welling stated
MOTION° that`he would like to see the appraisalo COUNCILMAN GELLERT MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST TO POSTPONE THIS MATTER UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING WHEN THERE
WILL•BE.A FULL COUNCIL. A ROLL CALL VOTE RESULTED IN AFFIRMATIVE VOTES -FROM
GELLERT-AND SHIPPEN AND.NEGATIVE VOTES FROM WELLING AND NORDQUIST. MAYOR HARRISON
VOTED "YES" TO -BREAK THE TIE AND THE MOTION CARRIED,
REPORT ON -REVIEW OF FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS WITH PRIVATE UTILITIES
City Attorney, John Wallace➢ reported that the last -franchise agreement with the
telephone company had been executed in 1934. This ran for 25 years and expired in
This was with the West Coast Telephone Co. At the -present time there is,no
agreement between General Telephone Company and -the City of Edmonds. Mr. Wallace
stated that:even,though a franchise agreement does not provide for -the re -location
at the time'of a.municipal improvement does not provide specifically that a utility
must move them, the Supreme Court has held that they must re=locate,them at their
own expense and are not entitled to compensation for such cost of re-locationo
Mr. Wallace stated that the telephone company indicated that they have not had
requdsts>in recent years for franchises. Further information was provided to
council via a memo from the attorney to the.Mayor-and each council"member.
REQUEST FORBID DATE FOR CONCRETE STORM SEWER PIPE -AND APPURTENANCES
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Herb.Gilbo, Director.of Public Works, requested that the council set a bid date
for fhe-above-material which is to be used for Olympic View Drive,.86th.West
MOTION: and the 1974 storm sewer improvement program. COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED➢ SECONDED •
BY COUNCILMAN WELLING TO SET SEPTEMBER LOTH AS THE BID DATE. MOTION CARRIED.
IT WAS DECIDED TO HOLD THE EXECUTIVE SESSION SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING AT SOME
LATER.TIME, WHEN THERE WILL BE A FULL.COUNCILo
There-being.no further business to come before council, the -meeting -adjourned at
10:25 P.M...
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IRENE VARNEY MO City 2 2 Clerk
September 3, 1974
ROLL CALL
HARV H. HARRISON, Mayor
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:30 P.M.
by Mayor Harve Harrison, with all council members present.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilwoman Shippen mentioned the last sentence in the first paragraph -.,under
Council Participation in the August 27th minutes; she said that she was referring
to the entire area south of Dayton Street and west to the railroad right-of-way,
and not the Pointer -Willamette Building. She then wished to make an addition
in the second -paragraph following Councilman Nelson°s motion.- She wished to
note"that she inquired if -the Pointer -Willamette Building would be included
in the parking study and that Councilman Nelson responded that it would.
Councilman Nelson stated that it should be made clear that the $27,000 designated
for -parking study and acquisition of parking space is, -in fact, guaranteed monies
from the IAC; and that money is guaranteed for engineering studies.
The minutes had been posted, mailed and distributed; and with the corrections
and additions noted, were then approvedo
COUNCIL PARTICIPATION
Councilman Nelson stated that -he would -like to suggest that the-councii move for
the adoption -of a resolution that would -endorse the county=wide publid'trans-
portation measure to be on the September 17th primary ballot. Councilman Nelson
MOTION° then read the proposed resolution. _COUNCILMAN NELSON THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST TO PASS`REEOLUT'IQId' MOTION CARRIED.
Councilwoman Shippen asked the City Planar, if -it would be•possible, in connection
with the parking study for the fishing pier, to give the council a.rundown of
the parking deficiencies generally along the waterfront. She said she would•
like a report on what would be required. Mr. Wallis replied that they could
make an analysis and could make some fairly accurate estimateso He thought
it would take 3 or 4 man -days to make this study.
Councilwoman Shippen suggested that council members read "American Burning",
which is available in the Fire Department. It is a report put out by the
National Commission on Fire Prevention and Safety. She thought that it would
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be advisable to look at this report before budget discussions, and that the
report would have a lot of useful information to reflect upon,. Chief Cooper
stated that he would be most happy to provide a copy for each council member.
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Tom Carnes, a Ballinger Area resident, repo rted•that at 3:30 P.M. yesterday
there was a fire four doors away from where he lives, The garage burned.down
and there was damage -to the structure. He said that the -Fire Department arrived
in approximately six minutes, and did an outstanding job in putting out the
fire, Mr. Carnes thought, however, that if Fire Station #2 had been manned
the damage would have been less extensive, Mr. Carnes stated that he does not
think the Ballinger Area has adequate fire protection, and that he would like
the Mayor and,City Council to give this matter some thought, There was some
general discussion regarding location of stations in other jurisdictions and
response -times, with Chief Cooper answering questions, Mayor Harrison asked
Chief Cooper whether he would favor the downtown station or the one at Five
Corners in the ebent the city could afford only'one station, manned around the
clock,* Chief>Cooper stated that he has contacted the Rating Bureau, and they
felt the downtown station would be better,' Chief Cooper pointed out that if
we were to man Station #2, there would'have to be considerable expansion of
that buildingo' Chief Cooper stated that he is studying the manning possibilities
in the Fire Department' for instance, whether it would be better .to close down
one station and operate out of one•main station,; etc. There was further
discussion, and Councilman Welling stated that he was concerned.about the
situation, and thought perhaps the city should consider putting more manpower
into the Five'Corners Station right now. Councilman Nordquist suggested that
nothing be done until Chief Cooper has made his report. He then stated that
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this matter be placed.on the agenda for September 17th,
HEARING: SHORELINES MANAGEMENT PLAN -
City -Planner, Joe Wallis, reported that this matter will be coining before the
Planning Commission tomorrow evening, and would therefore like to have it
MOTION:
postponed until one month from now, COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILWOMAN SHIPPEN TO PLACE THIS'MATTER ON THE AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 15TH,
MOTION CARRIED,
PRESENTATION OF PETITION FOR ANNEXATION "SEATTLE HEIGHTS"
Mayor Harrison announced that a Certification of Validity and Sufficiency of
the above -mentioned petition has been received fromthe City Clerk, The
signatures constitute more the 75% of the assessed valuation of the property
MOTION: to be annexed, COUNCILMAN GELLERT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST TO
SET OCTOBER 22ND AS THE HEARING DATE ON THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION, SUBJECT
TO NOTIFICATION FROM THE BOUNDARY REVIEW BOARD: AND THAT COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGES
RECEIPT OF THE PETITION, MOTION CARRIED
1ST READING PROPOSED ORDINANCE LOAD LIMITS OLYMPIC VIEW DRIVE
First reading was had on a proposed ordinance of the City of Edmonds amending
Sec, 8.64.080, Schedule VIII of the Edmonds City Code restricting the use.of
commercial vehicles on Olympic View Drive from Puget Drive to 76th Avenue
West,
REPORT ON BIDS OPENED AUGUST 29TH - SALE OF CITY -OWNED VEHICLES
• Director of Public Works, Herb Gilbo, reported that on the 29th of August
the City Clerk opened bids for the sale of city -owned vehicles. He requested
council approval to dispose of the said vehicles to the highest bidder for same.
Bids -were as follows:
1, 1972 Dodge Polara', unit 133* $8769 $8519$826 Rec. Accept $876
2, Tao 1972 Doge Polaras units
#131 and #130 No bids received
3, One 1969 Plymouth Fury I $4109 $326 " " $410
4, One 1970 Harley-Davidson
Motorcycle $1515.15 " " $1515.15
50' One 1965 Ford Station Wagon No bids received
MOTION: COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON TO ACCEPT THE BIDS
ON ITEMS 1,-3 and 4, Mr, Gilbo recommended that we"wait approximately two weeks
and then re -advertise the items upon which no bids were received, and add more
items to them, ON CALL FOR THE QUESTION, THE MOTION CARRIED,
ENGINEER'S REPORT ON PROPERTY APPRAISAL OF SITE"ON 84TH W. RIGHT-OF-WAY
City Engineer, Leif Larson, reported that the appraised amount of this
property is $1,18.0.629 and that according to the city attorney, the*city
cannot be compensated in an amount that.would exceed one half of the
appraisal, which is $590631. Mr, Larson suggested, that the'$40,00 appraisal
fee also be included, which would make a total of $630.31. Following some
MOTION:discussion, COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GELLERT TO
DENY THE VACATION -OF A PORTION OF 84TH AVENUE WEST, A ROLL CALL VOTE RESULTED
IN COUNCILMEN GELLERT AND NORDQUIST VOTING "YES" AND THE REMAINING COUNCIL
MEMBERS VOTING AGAINST AND THE MOTION FAILED TO CARRY,
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MOTION: COUNCILMAN ANDERSON THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WINTERS TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE #17289 INSERTING THE FIGURE'$630.31 ON PAGE 2. THE MOTION CARRIED,
WITH COUNCILMEN GELLERT AND NORDQUIST VOTING AGAINST.
SNO=KING AMBULANCE PRESENTATION
John Heldt, Jr.., Manager for Sno-King Ambulance Service,,stated that they were
again.appearing before the council to request that they be allowed to respond -
to the.aid calls with the Edmonds Fire Department. Mr. Heldt had'provided
copies of letters from citizens regarding their service; list of personnel and
training of same and a letter from Lynnwood explaining how they are permitted
to answer calls in that city. Mayor -Harrison asked Mr. Heldt to give a brief
explanation of the procedure. Mr. Heldt stated that they "roll" with the
City of Lynnwood on a non -code basis, and that if it is other than a life or
death,.situation, they transport.- The same plan -is followed in other jurisdictions.
Chief,Cooper stated that at the present time our aid car transports, unless the
patient is -.to be taken to a hospital outside of the city. In that case,
Sno=King is advised and they come in and transport. Councilman Gellert asked
Chief Cooper for his opinion on the Lynnwood agreement. Chief Cooper stated
that he is -concerned about liabilities which may be incurred by the city if
something should happen to a patient after he is turned over -to someone else
for transport. Chief Cooper suggested that a committee consisting of two or
threet-council persons, himself and Chief Foster, to look into the situation
and bring their recommendations back to the council.
During further discussions-, Chief Cooper stated that operating the aid car
has not%hindered the Fire Department operations in any way, and that they have
served the public well. Mayor Harrison thought this was a -good service to
provide for the citizens of Edmonds. Mr. Stutzke mentioned.that there -is - •
legislation which states that Federal funds cannot be provided for a service
in direct competition with a private firm. City Attorney, John Wallace, stated
that there is a provision to that effect, however it is applicable only to
third-, -class cities. Edmonds is a code city and has all the powers of any town
or city, and very specific legislation under other applicable State Laws which
govern Edmonds., power and authority for the city to operate an ambulance service
without any reference to whether or not it is in competition with -private
enterprise. Mr. Wallace stated further that our ordinance does prohibit the
interception of fire calls for the purpose of taking an ambulance to the scene.
MOTION: Following some further discussion, A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN,NELSON AND
SECONDED BY -COUNCILMAN WINTERS THAT THE MAYOR BE PERMITTED TO SELECT TWO COUNCIL
MEMBERS, ALONG WITH FIRE CHIEF COOPER AND POLICE CHIEF FOSTER TO DRAFT.A POLICY
STATEMENT, THAT PERHAPS COULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE, FOR -
SUBMITTAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 17TH. MOTION CARRIEIDO' Mayor -Harrison
then asked.Councilwoman Shippen and Councilman Welling to serve on this committee.
RECOMMENDATION ON PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ADDITION
Leif Larsojn9.Citp Engineer, reported that an evaluation of the bids indicates
certain deficiencies in relation to the Building Code. Negotiations and change
orders would be necessary. In view of the foregoing, Mr. Larson recommended
that the Public Works Building be readvertised with a suggested bid date of
October 10. Following some discussion, Councilman Welling made a motion to
delete this item .from the 1974 budget. The motion died for lack of a second.
MOTION: COUNCILMAN GLLERT MOVED, SECONDED'BY COUNCILMAN NELSON TO READVERTISE FOR
THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON OCTOBER 10. Following discussion, the MOTION
CARRIED, WITH ANDERSON AND WELLING VOTING AGAINST.
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FINANCIAL STATUS REPORT
M.A.A. Ron Whaley passed out a written report to the Mayor and council.
Councilwoman Shippen asked if discussion could be delayed until a later meeting
so that they willhave an opportunity to review the material. However,
Mr. Whaley briefly reviewed the report, stating that comparing expenditures
and revenues as of July 319 1974, we are about on course. A copy of this
report -is available in the City Clerk's Office along with the 1975 budget
material.
BUDGET FORMAT DISCUSSION
The budget format was discussed at length, and the consensus of -the council was
that'.they would like the budget in-looseleaf form -so that additions and deletions
can be..made with greater ease.,
DISCUSSION.,ON STREET TREE STANDARDS
Mayor Harrison read a letter from -the Beautification Committee which requested
that consideration of tree plan be -delayed for more study, and a.Street
TreC'.Commission be appointed and that the City Engineer only act in a consulting
capacity. Mr. Larson stated that the location of the trees in the right-of-way
is the affair of the engineering department, but they have nothing to do -with
MOTION: Eheselection of the varieties. COUNCILWOMAN SHIPPEN-MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST THAT THIS STUDY .BE REFERRED TO THE -BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE,
AND THAT-.!tHiY`SUBMIT A REPORT'TO THE COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 15TH. MOTION CARRIED.
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There -being no further business to come before council, the meeting QCas
adjourned at 10:30 P.M.
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IRENE VARNEY MORAN, City Clerk HARVE H. HARRISON, Mayor
September 109 1974
ROLL CALL
The regular work meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at
7:30 P.M. by Mayor Harve Harrison, with all council members present except Winters.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the September 3rd meeting had been posted, mailed and distributed,
and with.no &missions, nor corrections were approved as written.
COUNCIL PARTICIPATION
Councilman Nordquist reported that he had attended a meeting of the Snohomish
County Health District; and that the Board is recommending a 75t per capita
assessment, which is the same as they have had since 1970.
Councilman Nelson inquired what�the regulations wer.e with regard to the pickup
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distance for garbage collection. Councilman Anderson stated that he thought it
was 5019 and that if it was more they either would not pick.it,up or would
charge extra. M.A.A. Ron Whaley stated that this is not specified in the
city code. Councilman Anderson thought we should sit down with the garbage
companies and establish a rate schedule taking into account the number of
cans and the distance in feet. The Mayor directed Mr. Whaley to make a study
with regard to this matter.
Councilman Gellert noted that the Seattle Times' August 29th issue stated that
the Burlington Northern had been charged with 20 violations of the Rivers and
Harbors Act of 1899 iri dumping landslide debris in Puget Sound along their
right-of-way,'between Ballard and Mukilteo. It stated that each offense proven
is punishable by up $2,500 fine. The action was.filed by Uo S. Attorney Stan
Pitkin and is set 'for hearing in Judge McGovern's Court. Councilman Gellert
thought perhaps the city should intervene to see.if perhaps the fines could be
:applied towards undergrounding their lines. He wondered if the Mayor.or someone
on the staff could contact the U. S. Attorney or the Judge and suggest this
MOTION:
approach. Following a brief discussion, COUNCILMAN WELLING MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN ANDERSON THAT WE'REQUEST THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CONSULT WITH STAN PITKIN
AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST BURLINGTON NORTHERN TO
DETERMINE IF ANY OF THE PURPORTED VIOLATIONS OCCURRED WITHIN THE CITY OF EDMONDS:
AND AFTER A REPORT HAS BEEN RECEIVED, THAT WE FURTHER.CONSIDER MAKING AN APPEARANCE
IN.COURT AT THE TIME OF SENTENCING TO SEE IF SOME FORM OF DAMAGES CAN.BE AWARDED
THE CITY FOR ANY DAMAGE WE MAY HAVE SUFFERED. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilman Anderson stated that he had some calls about 174th S. W. The City
Engineer said that they have handed out easements and are attempting to establish
a grade. Councilman Anderson said that some of the property owners on the south
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side are dumping on the north side, and that the property owners on tle north
side are disturbed -about this. Harry Whitcutt will check into this,
Councilman -Anderson asked if we have any rules that apply to undergrounding in
short plats. Leif Larson stated that it all depends on the size of the lot and
when it was approved.. It may have been approved before the undergrounding
ordinance. Councilman Anderson stated that he would have some interest in having
the undergrounding requirements extended to individual lots. Leif Larson and
Joe Wallis were asked to look at this again.
Councilman Gellert asked if the bicycle path is going in on.Olympic View Drive.
Mr. Larson stated that it was going.in adjacent to the street on the west side.
Councilman Nelson stated that he would like to report on the meeting held
last evening with the Port Commissioners regarding the fishing pier. Council._:'
members Shippen and Anderson also attended along with Rod Garretson.' He said the
discussion again centered .on the parking requirements,. They reaffirmed their
original resolution and gave their encouragement to go ahead and begin the study;
and he proposed -to the Commissioners that the city would initiate the study and
obtaining any potential recommended consultant to do the job, so that we'will
.have a solid foundation of fact upon which to make a final determination as to
MOTION: the best place for parking to be located. COUNCILMAN NELSON MOVED, SECONDED
BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON THAT THE MAYOR INSTRUCT THE CITY STAFF TO TAKE THE DIRECTION
OF GETTING TOGETHER WITH THE IAC AND MAKING APPLICATION FOR RECEIPT OF THE'MONIES
NECESSARY AND RECOMMEND CONSULTANTS: AND THAT THAT STUDY BE INITIATED•TO
PROVIDE THE NECESSARY DATk AND FACTS FOR''THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION TO CONSIDER
.FOR THE PARKING PROBLEMS. He stated that this resolution was the,one passed
several weeks ago,.and indicated that we were favorable towards a concept of a
fishing pier and indicated that they will still look at this as a possibility.
MOTIONCARRIED.
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