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A lady in the audience asked for continuance of blacktop walkway where traffic
converges near Dairy Queen.• The City Engineer indicated the improvement requested.
He recommended that this be considered in the budget for next year, which also
includes pavement widening and asphalt walkway. The estimated cost is $7,000.
The Engineer said after discussion that he will come back with an estimAte just
for the widening of the roadway to a more driveable width and see if'that can be
done this year.
CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES
Council acknowledged receipt of Claims for'Damages from Stanley and Andrie
Buchanan and Doc McIsaac. These were referred to the City Clerk for processing.
The meeting adjourned at 12:15 A.M.
CRENE VARNEY MORAN City Clerk H. H. HARRISON, Mayor
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July 8, 1975
ROLL CALL
The work meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order by Mayor Harve Harrison at
7:30 P.M. in the Council Chambers at the Edmonds Civic Center. All council members were present,
except Anderson. •
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Councilwoman Bruns mentioned that on.Page 2 with regard to the ambulance situation, she noted
that Mr. Wiltfong was talking in favor' of the private ambulance rather than the aid car. The
minutes of the meeting of July 1 had been posted, -mailed and -distributed and with this notation,
they were approved.
COUNCIL PARTICIPATION
Councilman Gellert stated that Mr. Bob Gustafson had brought to his attention that on last
July 30th a motion had been made with regard to the extension of the improvement of Olympic
View Drive referring this matter to the Planning Commission and the Amenities Design Board.
He said apparently this had not been done. The -City' Engineer said that -on April 23, 1974
the matter came up in connectvn with the 180th vacation which the Council had referred back
to the Planning Commission. Mr. Larson then read the motion from the July 30th minutes
which indicated the referral to those bodies with respect to the alignment of Olympic View
Drive. He said that there is a meeting scheduled with the residents on the 216t. On August
the 6th it will go to the Amenities Design Board and on°July 23rd the Planning•Commission•will
hear the matter.
Councilman Nordquist noted that the Council had received a letter from Rod Garretson with regard
MOTION: ''to the 7th and Elm property. COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN BRUNS TO PLACE
THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 22ND OF JULY. Councilwoman Shippen asked to br brought up to date
on theneigliborhood meetings. Mr. Garretson said that meetings have been held with representatives
from both sections of the neighborhood present. Councilman -Gellert asked that both factions be
advised of this meeting so that they can be present. Mr. Garretson said that this will call for
a compromise and that he hoped he could do,that outside of Council. Mrs. Shippen said that she
was under the impression that the City had decided to leave this area undeveloped and that it
remain in Public Works as a drainage area. Councilman Clement said that he would like to confine
discussion on July 22nd to 1) the site not being left as is, as it is a mess and it invites dumping,
etc. and 2) and the immediate first step would be to eliminate the high growth alder trees in the
southern portion of the site and the neighbors have indicated a willingness to replace with appro-
priate low -growing materials and trees to fill the void. MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Harrison said that he had an application for a liquor license for the.Pickle Barrel located
at 9816 Edmonds Way. The Police Department had investigated and found no irregularities. Officer
Ken Estes stated that it is a delicatessen and is located next to Angie's Little Italy Restaurant.
MOTION: COUNCILMAN GELLERT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLEMENT TO APPROVE THE LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATION
FOR THE PICKLE BARREL. MOTION CARRIED:
Mayor Harrison presented two resolutions to the Council for review. The first was a resolution
transferring the sum of $150 from the contingency fund to the Municipal Arts Fund for the purpose
MOTION: of providing funds for administrative expenses to Edmonds -Arts Commission. COUNCILMAN GELLERT MOVED,
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN SHIPPEN TO CONSIDER THIS ON THE JULY 15TH AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED.
The other resolution was for the purpose of transferring $100 from the contingency fund to the
MOTION: general fund.for Bicentennial Celebration purposes. COUNCILMAN•NOR�UI8T'MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILWOMAN BRUNS TO PASS ONTHIS RESOLUTION AT THE JULY 15TH MEETING. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilman Nordquist acknowledged receipt of a letter from Bill Nims regarding Metro funding. He T�
read the letter wherein Mr. Nims advised that Metro has accepted our terms whereby the rates will be
reduced to .what they were on May 4, 1975 'and.stipulating,that,the $5,000 allowcaied.,by the'Council
will be used only for the Edmonds deficit.
COMMITTEE PRESENTATION ON CABLE TV FRANCHISE RENEWAL
Council reviewed and discussed a draft of an ordinance to amend Ordinance #1126. Several changes
were made and noted with comments from Mr. Gastman, Regional Manager for Liberty TV. Rates and •
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MOTION: service were also discussed. COUNCILMAN GELLERT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST THAT WE
ADD IN PAR. 4 (b) THAT IN ADDITION TO THE AUTOMATIC INCREASES AND DECREASES OUTLINED HEREIN, THAT
THERE SHALL BE A COMPLETE REVIEW OF THE RATE SCHEDULE ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS. CARRIED.
MOTION: COUNCILMAN GELLERT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLEMENT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO
ADD REVENUE FROM ACCESS AND ORIGINATION CHANNELS AS PART OF THE GROSS RECEIPTS. MOTION CARRIED.
Following more discussion, it was pointed out that the next to the last line in Section 8 should
say Snohomish County Health District instead of Public Health Department. Councilman Welling noted
that a portion of Section 9 called for'the City Engineer to supply the`permittee with data by which
a map of the location of conduits and cables could be filed. He thought this was placing too great
a burden on the Engineer. It was decided to insert the word "available" in front of the word "data".
City Engineer, Leif Larson, made reference to Section 12 (A) and said that it has been a policy that
all utilities coordinate in using a common trench to place utilities, and he would like to ask that
the cable TV people also coordinate with other utilities in new subdivisions. In Section 20, 3rd
line from the bottom after the word "hands" is to be inserted "or voting control.' Councilman Gellert
thought there should be a section in the ordinance prohibiting tapping in. The representative from
Liberty said that this could be put in. There was some further discussion on rates, the differences
in types of signals, etc.
MOTION:
COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED TO SCHEDULE THIS MATTER FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 5TH OF AUGUST ON THE
ORDINANCE AND THE APPLICATION. COUNCILWOMAN BRUNS SECONDED.
AMENDMENT: COUNCILMAN CLEMENT THEN MOVED TO AMEND TO INCLUDE REQUIRING THAT LIBERTY TV NOTIFY THEIR SUBSCRIBERS
AND THAT SUCH NOTIFICATION BE MAILED BY THE 20TH OF JULY. COUNCILWOMAN BRUNS SECONDED. Following
some discussion the AMENDMENT CARRIED; AND THE MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED ALSO CARRIED. Councilman
Gellert pointed out that there should be mention made that this will concern the renewal of the
application and the rate increases and the purpose of those rate increases.
• DRAWING FOR COUNCIL POSITIONS
Mayor..Harrison read a memorandum from the Ctty 6lerk stating that position numbers must be drawn
for the coming election. She stated that unexpired council terms are to be given the highest
position numbers. That being the case with respect to Councilman Welling, he was assigned Position
#5. After the drawigg, the positions were as follows: #1 - Norma_ Bruns; #2 - Phil Clement; #3-
John Nordquist and #4 - Natalie Shippen.
TOW TRUCK LICENSE APPLICATION - ED-LYNN
Police Captain, Sherlund Smith, reported on this item and recommended denial. He said that Mr. Kerr
MOTION: is aware of this and concurs. COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED,,SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN BRUNS TO DENY
THE LICENSE APPLICATION FOR ED-LYNN. MOTION CARRIED.
CONSIDERATION OF EMERGENCY FIRE EXIT THROUGH YOST PARK
City Engineer, Leif Larson, stated that they had been asked to provide an estimate for egress through
Yost Park from Shell Valley for emergency vehicles. This estimate had been presented to the Council
and was approximately $7,000. Rod Garretson, Director of Parks and Recreation, stated that this is
alien to the Comprehensive Plan for the park. He said that the proposal is to place this road
approximately where it is planned to have a pedestrian trail and jogging path. He said that a oaved
surface would destroy the feel they are after. The Mayor wondered if it.would have to be fiard sur-
faced. Assistant City Engineer, Dick Allen, said that there would be a problem in inclement weather
and they felt that a hard surface would be the best. Judge Holte, who represented the Shell Valley
developers said that they are willing to do anything within their economic parameters to provide
emergency access.out of the Valley. He also said that they will be happy to improve their road
right up to the park, if that is desired. He also said that if we get the access out to Main Street,
• they will help to improve it to get in and out on an emergency basis; and if we go through the park
they will help to improve. that. Council members.Gellert and Bruns said that they would not wish to
go.through the park and that'to the northeast would seem the only way to go. Councilman Geller
asked if Council could get a cost estimate for acquiring access out to Main. The City Planner asked
if the City could adjust easement rights. The attorney said that this could be done, and the Mayor
commented that this would have to.be part of the appraisal. During further discussion on the road,
the Fire Chief, Jack Cooper, said that he would have to have a 12' wide road for his equipment. There
was discussion on equipment needed to fight a fire in this area. The Chief mentioned that there is
a small attack unit available thanwould be ideal for firefighting in an area such as this. He said
there are many things to look at though in determining what would be needed, and that he would have
to look at the plans first. It was suggested that the Fire Chief and the developer work together
to see if there is any common ground that would be useful to explore between now and next week when
the Shell Valley PRD comes to Council for consideration. Councilman Gellert asked the City Engineer
if he would have preliminary costs by next week of both condemnation or acquisition of easement cost
and improvement cost of an exit to Main Street. Mro Larson said that we should have appraisals from
real estate people. There was a brief discussion on the feasibility of two ribbons of paving being
used. Judge Holte asked if he was correct inthinking that they are supposed to get together with the
Fire Chief and the Engineer and discuss the pros and cons of a fixed unit, or a mobile unit or some
alternate going down into the Valley to fight fires and the cost:of providing an exit'.:out to Main
Street. He was_told that this was correct.
PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS r 5TH AVENUE SIDEWALKS
Engineer Larson said that the estimates indicate that it will be rather expensive to put sidewalks in
on 5th Avenue. He said that the Council in the past has used a $4.00 a zone front fQotccost, but that
has not paid for itself in the past fear years. He said that in some instances the City has participated
on --.a 50 - 50 basis to put sidewalks in. Mr. Larson asked for guidance as to what the Council would like
to do with respect to sending out assessment notices. He sand the attorney has indicated that if the
assessments are sent out based uponzthe report, each section would hace to stand-by itself and have a
separate assissment. If the City participates then it can be a uniform assessment. Mr. Larson said
• the variations in the sections run from $8.95 tip $16.00. HeL-sifd that it could also be done on a
frontage basis. He said that the estimates came in so much higher than it has on any of the other
projects done inithe City. Councilman Nb rdquist suggested ghat perhaps it would be a better idea to
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inspect that area and just have the damaged sidewalk repaired or replaced-. Mr. Larson said that
these had been a decision made to do some undergrounding in conjunctim withthe sidewalks: There
was discussion on costs, and Councilman Gellert suggested 50-50 participation and then equalizing
on the rest. Mr. Larson said that they had estimated $6:63 a zone front foot based upon-$20,000
City participation, acid $7.17 based on 50-50. The Mayor asked what the Engineer's realistic
estimate would be. Mr. Larson said that they were hoping it would come in 10-15% lower, but he.
has always felt that it is better to estimate -on the high sides Mr. Larson suggested that they
start preparing it under a certain participation with the idea that we set a Council hearing for
August 5th; and that they report on the finances at next weeks meeting. This would be both from
the Street Fund and from the Sidewalk Fund. COUNCILMAN GELLERT THEN MOVED TO DO AS THE ENGINEER
SUGGESTED,. AND THAT IT BE ON A 50-50 BASIS. COUNCILWOMAN SHIPPEN SECONDED. MOTION CARRIED.
SET DATE FOR HEARING: ON ELANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION #476, RECOMMENDING VACATION OF PORTION
OF ELIA $ETWEEN 5TH & 6TH, ST-3-75.
COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN BRUNS TO SET AUGUST 1RTH FOR THIS HEARING.
MOTION CARRIED.
REVIEW OF POSTING PROCEDURES FOR VARIANCES.
Councilwoman Shippen said that there have been numerous complaints about the posting of notices.
She wondered if Police and Fire could do this as they have the manpower: City Planner, Joe Wallis,
offered another suggestion which was to.,do as they do with short subdivisions. In that case the
applicant is asked to provide the City with the names of the legal property owner abutting the
property and also properties directly across the street. They then run copies of the official
notice that they place on the poles and send that to the individuals through the. mails. He said
that this is a less expensive process.. Council thought this sounded like a good solution.
Councilman Gellert.then said that the idea of Police and Fire doing the posting might be reasonable
too, since they are making rounds anyway., Fire Chief Cooper was present and said that he keeps
his people very busy, and that we have one of the busiest Fire Departments in the State of
Washington. He said that just last week two gentlemen came from California to ask us to be one
of ten cities in the United States to test a planning program because of our work in the Edmonds
Fire Department. The Mayor said that.perhsaps the Police Department would be more appropriate for
this posting. There was discussion on.the requirements under the ordinance and the City Attorney
advised that we are now complying to the State Statute, but we can add to that if we wish.
COUIC ILWOMAN SHIPPEN THEN MOVED TO CHANGE THE APPLICATION FOR VARIANCES REQUIRING THAT THE
APPLICANT PROVIDE NAMES OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS. MOTION CARRIED,
MLLOWING A SECOND BY CLEMENT.
REPORT FROM ENGINEER RE/TALBOT ROAD
The City Engineer and the Assistant City Engineer reported on this matter, with the aid of a map
of Talbot Road divided in four sections. A list of different options was handed out to the Council
members, indicating what could be done with the money that had been budgeted. Councilman Gellert
wondered if there would be excess monies in the Water -Sewer Fund that could be -used to storm sewer
in connection with Option A. Mr -,,Larson said that he would check with the Public.Works Director
on that phase. Mrs. Shippen asked'if"in Items 1, 3 and 4 the sidewalks could be put in later with-
out• -tearing anything up. Mr. Larson said that this is correct, and that nothing that was on the
sheet would require tearing anything up.. The Attorney said that he will look into borrowing revenue
bond money for the storm sewers. There.was general discussion on the expense involved in putting
in bike paths as this requires storm drainage and, therefore, creates a more costly street improve-
ment. Councilwoman Shippen said .that:she would still rather see us proceed piecemeal and get a
complete improvement. Mr. Larson said.that the fuming for the improvement of Talbot Road was based
upon the use of 1/2i Gas Tax. He said when they were budgeting they were budgeting for the surfacing
and the storm drainage. He said the sidewalk requirement would either have to come out of the Side-
walk Fund or out of the General Street.Fund, and that presents another budget problem. Mayor Harrison
said that if you put too much "weight".into one area, you would be neglecting other areas of the City
for many years to come. Following more discussion, COUNCILMAN GELLERT MOVED THAT IF THERE ARE ANY
EXCESS FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THE WATER/SEWER DEPARTMENT -TO ACCOMPLISH OPTION A, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL -
PROVIDE -THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING OUR BICYCLE PATH PROGRAM. COUNCILMAN CLEMENT SECONDED.
This is. -assuming that there are additional funds available. Mr. Gellert said if there is not,
then.the City Engineer should report back to the Council.. THE MOTION WAS THEN VOTED UPON AND CARRIED,
FOLLOWING A.ROLL CALL VOTE WITH COUNCILMAN WELLING VOTING AGAINST.
The Mayor announced at this point that there would be a short executive session, and that they could
view a proposed street light in the lobby following the meeting.
CLAIMS FOR DAMAGES
Council acknowledged receipt of a Claim for Damages from Paul Kwake. This was referred to the
City Clerk for processing.
The meeting adjourned at 11:20 P.M.
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