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MOTION for the position of Community Development Director. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN
(failed) GOULD, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HERB,',TO CONFIRM THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT OF BOB McABEE TO
THE POSITION OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECT. A ROLL"CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN, WITH COUNCIL-
MEN GOULD AND HERB VOTING YES, AND COUNCILMEN CLEMENT, GELLERT, NORDQUIST, ANDERSON AND
CARNS VOTING NO. MOTION FAILED. Mayor Harrison said he had outlined Mr. McAbee's quali-
f:i.cations:.and:;:.n_Ythe.interest.;of,,fai:mess.'to..himsel:f.;and,,toM.the appli.cant,.,heSasked::those
di.ssenting,.Councilmen'sto gi,ve..their. reasons.:.Councilman':Gel:lert-'sa'i d: he' was 16oking.4or
;.:somebody.Nwith.-,some..ar.chi:tectural and design experience and; while they -.'may not:f.ind that;
that was what he was looking for. Councilman -Anderson shared that view and said he was
also concerned about whether Mr. McAbee had enough experience at the kind of level of need
which the City has. He noted that Mr. McAbee had broad experience in regional and inter-
governmental planning, but he was concerned about his experience at the level of house -to -
house and l.ot-to-lot. Councilman Carns concurred. He said he felt badly about voting
against the Mayor's choice, but he would like to see a person with more background in design,
}building, and parks and recreation. Councilman No rdquist felt Mr...McAbee was not strong
enough in administrative leadership to take over the department. -as firmly as it should be
done, and he?felt Mr. McAbee'.s work,experience was not current enough in some areas.
Councilman Clement felt Mr. McAbee was lacking in the aesthetic orientations and architectural
design background which this particular department needed. He said that from a community
standpoint that kind of orientation is needed to maintain what the people want, All of the
Councilmen stated they had nothing personally against the applicant, but they cited the areas
where they felt he was lacking. Mr. McAbee thanked the Council for their consideration and
for being extremely thorough. He said they were very direct and specific and knew the job
=}they wanted done, and that he was sorry he was not an architect as he felt he would have had
• something to offer Edmonds. He commended the Mayor and the Council on their selection
procedure. The meeting then adjourned at 9:55 p.m.
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IRENE VARNEY MORAN., ity Clerk HARVE H. TiA R S N, Mayor
November 22, 1977
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Mayor Harve
Harrison in the Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center. All present joined in the flag
salute.
PRESENT STAFF PRESENT
Harve Harrison, Mayor Charles Dibble, M.A.A.
Ray Gould Leif Larson, Public Works Director
Phil Clement Harry Whitcutt, Acting Community Development Director
Max Gellert Dick Allen, Assistant City Engineer
John Nordquist Rod Garretson, Park Planning & Recreation Director
Robert Anderson Irene Varney Moran, City Clerk
Tom Carns Jim Murphy, City Attorney
Mike Herb Wayne Tanaka, City Attorney
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Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk
CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION:
Councilman Herb asked to have the Minutes removed from the Consent Agenda (Item B). COUNCILMAN
CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Herb's discussion revealed he actually did not want to amend the
MOTION:
Minutes but wanted to amend a future agenda item, so A MOTION WAS LATER MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 15, 1977. MOTION CARRIED.
The approved Consent Agenda contained the following:
(A) Roll call.
(B) Approval of Minutes of November 15, 1977.
(C) Final plat approval - Cassell Addition.
(D) Authorization to call for bids on 1978 liquid+ chlorine on December 15, 1977.
(E) City acceptance of right-of-way deed from Elkins and Brandt on 242nd St.
(F) Adoption of Ordinance 1958 increasing Council salaries.
Councilman Herb requested that Item 9, discussion regarding acquisition of Haines property, be
MOTION:
moved up on the agenda as he had to leave the meeting early this evening. COUNCILMAN GELLERT
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, THAT ITEM 9 BE MOVED AHEAD OF ITEM 7 ON THIS EVENING'S
AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. Councilman Herb asked that the agenda item set by Councilman Carns
at last week's meeting regarding scuba diving on the Edmonds's shorelines be changed to a dis-
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cussion of the consideration of safety standards, rather than a discussion regarding the possi-
bility of closing the beaches to diving. He said he was suggesting this because of the emotional
MOTION: furor building up over this item. COUNCILMAN HERB THEN MOVED THAT THE DECEMBER 6 AGENDA ITEM
(Failed) BE A DISCUSSION LIMITED TO WHAT SAFETY STANDARDS SHOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SCUBA
DIVE IN EDMONDS. Councilman Carns responded that a discussion of safety requirements is not
nearly enough, and if better safety could not be achived the beaches would have to be.closed
to diving. He said he would be surprised if beaches were closed, but if it is a strongly worded
hearing there will be more activity, and that was the purpose. He agreed that safety standards
MOTION: should be discussed. COUNCILMAN HERB'S MOTION FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. A MOTION WAS THEN
MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON, THAT THE AGENDA ITEM BE AMENDED
TO A DISCUSSION OF SAFETY STANDARDS AND THE POSSIBILITY OF CLOSING THE EDMONDS, BEACHES TO
DIVING: MOTION CARRIED. A FURTHER MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED•BY COUNCILMAN
GOULD, THAT THE SCUBA DIVING ITEM BE RESCHEDULED TO DECEMBER 20 INASMUCH AS THE MAYOR AND HE
WILL BE IN CALIFORNIA ON DECEMBER 6. Councilman Gellert noted that the newspapers had given
considerable publicity to this agenda item, and he urged that an equal amount of publicity
be given to the change in date. MOTION CARRIED.
PRESENTATION OF APPRECIATION AWARDS
Mayor Harrison presented certificates of appreciation to Diane Steinke for her service on the
Board of Adjustment from February 1977 to October 1977, and to Keith LaBelle for his service
on the Park Board from Mayor 1967 to September 1976.
COUNCIL
Councilman Gould inquired as to the letter from Russell Graham regarding the condition of
his street and as to the discposition of the matter. Public Works Director Leif Larson res-
ponded that a letter had been sent to Mr. Grham over the Mayor's signature indicating that the
road, which had been sealcoated and not in good condition, had been torn up in connection with
the Mill Haven development but would be resurfaced within two weeks. Mr. Larson said the road
would be in better condition that it had been prior to the development. Councilman Gould also
inquired about the status of a request to the Council for an appeal from an Amenities Design
Board ruling. City Attorney Jim Murphy said the appeal period had expired and could not be
extended --he said it would be wrong and illegal for the Council to hear it:• He said time limi-
tations are used frequently and his office has gone to court defending City actions on time
limitations. He said special rules should not be made for any individual. There was some dis-
cussion regarding whether the applicant was aware of the period of appeal. John LaTourelle,
Chairman of the Amenities Design Board, was in the audience and he said he could not recall
MOTION: whether the applicant was advised of the appeal period. COUNCILMAN HERB THEN MOVED THAT THE
(Failed) TIME LIMITATION ON THE APPEAL FROM STEVENS DENTAL CLINIC BE WAIVED AND THE APPEAL BE PERMITTED
TO PROCEED. Councilman Gellert requested a point of order, saying he did not think they should
vote on a point that is out of order. THE MOTION THEN DIED FOR THE LACK OF A SECOND. The City
Attorney's Office will write to the appellant to advise that the appeal period had expired be -
MOTION: fore the request had been made. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN GELLERT, SECONDED BY COUNCIL-
MAN HERB, THAT A SENTENCE STATING THE APPEAL PERIOD BE PLACED ON ALL APPLICATIONS FOR HEARING
BY THE AMENDITIES DESIGN BOARD, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND PLANNING COMMISSION. MOTION CARRIED.
Councilman Anderson advised he would be absent November 29, and Councilman Carns advised he would
be absent December 6.
MAYOR
Mayor Harrison announced he would like to appoint John LaTourelle as Director of Community Develop-
ment. He reviewed Mr. LaTourelle's background, noting his experience in urban design. He pro -
MOTION: posed a 1978 salary of $2,000 per month, the approximate midpoint of the salary range. COUNCILMAN
CARNS MOVED TO CONFIRM THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT OF JOHN LaTOURELLE TO THE POSITION OF DIRECTOR OF •
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, STATING MR. LaTOURELLE IS STRAIGHTFORWARD, INNOVATIVE, AND VERY POSITIVE
AND WILL WORK IN THE CITY'S INTERESTS. COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST SECONDED THE MOTION, STATING HE
FELT MR. LaTOURELLE WAS AN.EXCELLENT CANDIDATE. Discussion following regarding how soon Mr.
LaTourelle would be available, and the Mayor indicated he•could work only on a part-time basis
(Amend-... until the end of this year. COUNCILMAN GELLERT MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO AMEND
ment) THE MOTION TO SET MR; LaTOURELLE'S SALARY FOR THE BALANCE OF 1977 AT $11.50 PER HOUR, NOT TO
EXCEED $460. PER WEEK. THE MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED. THE MAIN MOTION, AS AMENDED, THEN CARRIED.
Mayor Harrison said the Turkey House had applied to change their liquor license from an "A
and C" (beer and wine) to an "H" (cocktails). The Police Chief had recommended approval. A.
MOTION: MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN GELLERT, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF
THE REQUEST OF THE TURKEY HOUSE FOR A CLASS "H" LIQUOR LICENSE. MOTION CARRIED.
Mayor Harrison said the Community Development Department had requested a hearing date of December
MOTION: 6 for the preliminary plat of "Espeland Estates" (File P-6-77). A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN
GELLERT, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLEMENT, TO SET DECEMBER 6 FOR HEARING ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT
OF "ESPELAND ESTATES" (FILE P-6-77) PROVIDED THAT THE COUNCIL RECEIVE THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PLAT
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF ITS HEARING OF THE PLAT A WEEK BEFORE THAT DATE. MOTION
CARRIED.
DISCUSSION RE ACQUISITION OF HAINES PROPERTY
Park Planning and Recreation Director Rod Garretson encouraged the Council to make a determination
on whether it intends -.to acquire this property. He had submitted a memorandum suggesting finan-
cial al.ternatives for purchasing the property, inasmuch as it appeared that IAC funding would not
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be possible. He felt acquisition..of the property was important to help.supply the waterfront
park property needs of the City,'and he noted that the'.Parks Advisory Board had recently re-
affirmed its recommendation that this project be given second priority for park improvement
money. He recommende negotiation with the owners to find the most feasible manner of acquisition,
and he recommended that the property be acquired. Councilman Clement noted that the first priority
of the Parks Advisory Board had been improvements to the Edmonds Junior High Athletic Fields
Complex, and Mr. Garretson responded that this was true, but he was suggesting this property
be acquired in some other manner, spreading out the cost over a number of years. Councilman
Gellert felt the property had many good points, including a long driveway which would provide
parking. He said he would take issue with councilmanic-bonds for purchase, however, as he did not
think that was an appropriate form of funding for the property. He commented that general obli-
gation bonds would have to be voted on by the citizens and would require a lot of promotion.
Councilman Gould suggested there may be other City properties the City would want to dispose
of, and use those funds for this purchase. Recent budget discussions caused Councilman Carns
to feel the City could not afford this purchase, and he noted that last year the people had
MOTION: voted overwhelmingly against park acquisition. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CLEMENT,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, TO INCLUDE DISCUSSION OF THE HAINES PROPERTY IN THE BUDGET
DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING OF,NOVEMBER 29. MOTION CARRIED.
HEARING ON VACATION OF EXCESS RIGHT-OF-WAY ON 80TH AVE. W., BETWEEN 212TH ST. S.'W. AND 207TH
PL. S.W.
Public Works Director Leif Larson reported that this right-of-way was revised by Council action
earlier this year, and one property owner had requested the excess be turned back to him. The
• Planning Commission had held hearings and no one had objected to vacation of the right-of-way.
Only three properties would benefit from the vacation, and Mr. Larson indicated them on a vicinity
map. The portions of right-of-way had been appraised by Hubbard Realty and, were determined to
have insignificant value. Mr. Larson therefore recommended that the City vacate the subject
protions of right-of-way at a cost of $25 to each abutting property owner receiving right-of-way
property, such cost to cover administrative and appraisal fees. Mr. Larson discussed possibi-
lities of selling back such properties, but his recommendation was not to do so and simply to
charge for the costs of processing. The public portion of the hearing was opened. (During this
discussion Councilman Herb departed, at 8:35 p.m.)
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Mrs. James Murray, one of the property owners involved, inquired whether the property would
be transferred to her deed. City Attorney Jim Murphy advised that the City is only vacating
the.property, not making any transfer. Mayor Harrison said she should contact the Assessor's
Office and ask that it be placed back under her ownership. The public portion of the hearing
MOTION: was then closed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO
ADOPT ORDINANCE 1959, PURSUANT TO P.C. RESOLUTION 567, WITH A CHARGE OF $25 TO EACH INVOLVED
PROPERTY OWNER. MOTION CARRIED.
HEARING ON RESOLUTION OF INTENTION 250, PROPOSED SEWER LID, VICINITY OF 180TH ST. S.W.,
BETWEEN 72ND AVE. W. AND 76TH AVE. W.
Assistant City Engineer Dick Allen identified the area, noting it was annexed to the City on
September 6, 1977. He explained what had transpired to date regarding sewering of the area.
The estimated cost of the project will be $162,500, the unit cost per zone front foot' being
$26.415385. The County Health Department had recommended that the whole north end of Edmonds
be sewered because of the..poor soil conditions for septic tanks, although the health situation
at this site had not been indicated as critical. Mr. Allen explained the method of assessment
for the improvement. City Attorney Jim Murphy then advised the property owners::that they could
object to the LID, in writing, within 30 days after passage of the ordinance, and if 60% of the
property owners protest the Council could not go forward with the LID. He explained the proce-
dure and the funding. The public portion of the hearing was then opened.
Tom Walton of 7302 179th SW objected to the fact that the area south of them had not been in-
cluded in the annexed area. Mr. Larson explained that the area annexed was determined by the
people asking for annexation. Councilman Gellert added that it has been a policy of the City
to annex only those properties where people expressed such desires. Ron Whaley of 7301 179th
S.W. asked what alternatives were considered for the manner in which the sewering is accom-
plished, and whether the street will be overlayed or patched where the sewers are installed.
Forest Roff of Reid, Middleton & Associates, said they had selected what they felt was the
least expensive way to sewer the area. He said the estimate included the overlay of the
street where the sewer line goes down the street, and that there are about three or four
sewer lines that.will cross 180th and they did not estimate overlaying all of 180th St. Wes
Brozvik of 17927 75th P1. W. inquired about the time schedule for accomplishing the sewering.
Mr. Larson responded that six months would be the minimum time to complete it and they anti-
cipated it would be accomplished by next summer. The public portion of the hearing was then
closed.
Councilman Gellert asked for clarification of the health and welfare situation in the sewering.
City Attorney Jim Murphy responded that the City of Edmonds does not have a health.officer and
it uses the County Health District. He said the response from the Health District was that the
situation in this instance was not critical, so it was not included in the ordinance.
Councilman Gellert commented that in comparison to what the costs had been several years pre -
MOTION: viously in sewering his area, he felt the present day costs indicated were not excessive. A MOTION
WAS THEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 1960,
CREATING LOCAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT 203. MOTION CARRIED.
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REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF STREET SWEEPING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT
Public Works Director Leif Larson said this agreement was similar to last year's agreement.
He said 3,692 miles of City, streets would be.included, and he displayed a map indicating
the streets included. The proposal would include most paved surfaces within the rights -of -way
and would exclude street surfaces of oilcoats, sealcoats, and two-lane pavement with gravel
shoulders. He said they had delted some of the two-lane streets because the rain cleans those.
The City Attorney had reviewed the agreement and had replaced one page with a change which he
said was insignificant. Mr. Larson recommended that the Council authorize the Mayor to exe-
cute the agreement. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CLEMENT, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD,
TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR STREET SWEEPING IN THE FORM RE-
COMMENDED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. MOTION CARRIED.
There was no further business to come before the Council, and the meeting adjourned at 9:25 ■
p.m.
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IRENE VARNEY MORAN, Cirty Clerk HARVE H. HARRISON, Mayor
November 29, 1977 (Work
Meeting)
Thecregular meeting of
the Edmonds City Council
was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Mayor Pro •
tem Phil Clement in the
Council Chambers of the
Edmonds Civic Center. All present joined in
the flag salute.
PRESENT
ABSENT
STAFF PRESENT
Phil Clement, Mayor Pro
Tem Harve Harrison,
Mayor Charles Dibble, M.A.A.
Ray Gould
Robert Anderson
Leif Larson, Public Works Director-.
Max Gellert
Harry Whitcutt, Acting Community Develop -
John Nordquist
ment Director
Tom Carns
Lila Crosby, Finance Director
Mike Herb
Irene Varney Moran, City Clerk
Marlo Foster, Police Chief
Jack Cooper, Fire Chief
Noelle Charleson, Asst. City Planner
Rod Garretson, Park"'Pl.anning. & Recrea-
tion Director
Jim Murphy, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk
CONSENT AGENDA
Councilman Gellert asked that Item E, setting hearing date for preliminary plat of "Talbot Glen,"
MOTION: be removed from the Consent Agenda. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, SECONDED BY COUNCIL-
MAN NORDQUIST, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The balance of
the Consent Agenda contained the following:
(A) Roll call.
(B) Approval of Minutes of November 22, 1977, with revised Page 2. •
(C) Setting date of December 20, 1977, for hearing of P.C. Resolution 574, recommending
approval of a proposed Shoreline Substantial Development Application to construct
moorage floats to accommodate approximately 58 boats and to dredge 450 cu. yds. of
said from the south harbor (File SM-3-77)
(D) Setting date of December 20, 1977, for hearing of P.C. Resolution 575 recommending
approval of a proposed amendment to Zoning Map to establish CG zoning at.the south-
east corner of 220th St. S.W. and Highway 99 (File AZ-4-77_.
SET DATE FOR HEARING ON APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT OF "TALBOT GLEN" (FILE P-7-77)
(SUGGESTED DATE: DECEMBER 6) - Item (E) on Consent Agenda
Councilman Gellert said the Council had not yet seen the material for this plat and he felt they
should get plat information ten.'days before the hearing. It was generally agreed that this would
be a good policy. Assistant City Planner Noelle Charleson said the material would be in this
week's packet for the subject plat, and in the future it would be provided 10 days prior to
MOTION: the hearing date. This was acceptable to the Council. COUNCILMAN GELLERT THEN MOVED, SECONDED
BY COUNCILMAN CARNS, THAT ITEM (E) ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BE APPROVED. MOTION CARRIED.
COUNCIL
Councilman Carns said a task force has been formed to bring about a Medic I para-medical program
in South Snohomish County, and that it was hoped a preliminary budget and other information would