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There was no further business to come before the Counci.l., and the meeting was adjourned at 9:55 p.m.
IRENE VARNEY MORAN, Ci Clerk
November 7, 1978
HARVE H. HARRISON, Mayor
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Mayor Harve
Harrison in the Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center. All present'joined'in the flag
salute.
PRESENT
Harve Harrison, Mayor
Mike Herb
Phil Clement
Katherine Allen
John Nordquist
Ray Gould
Tom Carns
ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
Larry Naughten Charles Dibble, M.A.A.
Leif Larson, Public Works Director
John LaTourelle, Community.Develop. Dir.,
Lila Crosby, Administrative Services Dir.
Irene Varney Moran, City Clerk
Fred Herzberg,.City Engineer
Noelle Charleson, Asst. City Planner
Mary Lou Block, Asst. City Planner
John Wallace, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk.
Mayor Harriosn introduced Larry Martin of Ogden, Ogden and Murphy, and gave him the oath of office
as Deputy City Attorney.
CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION:
Items (C) and (E) were removed from the Consent Agenda. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN
ALLEN, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The balance of the Consent
Agenda contained the following:
(A) Roll call.
(B) Approval of Minutes of October 30, 1978.
(D) Adoption of Ordinance 2032, amending Comprehensive Plan relating to
Waterfront Design Policies and the Shorelines Management Master Program.
(F) Adoption of Ordinance 2034, establishing Number of Members and Length of
Term on Planning Commission.
(G) Adoption of Ordinance 2035, establishing Membership for Arts Commission.
(H) Adoption of Ordinance 2036, establishing Length of Term for Members of
Parking Commission.
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(I) Adoption of Ordinance 2037, establishing Membership and Length of Term
on Park Board.
(J) Adoption of Ordinance 2038, establishing Membership and Length of Term on
Shorelines -Management Citizens Advisory Committee.
(K) Passage of Resolution 417, continuing Moratorium in CW Zone.
(L) Final approval of Plat -of Brookview.
(M) Authorization for Mayor to SCAN Service Agreement.
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PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING WATERFRONT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT REGULATIONS [Item (C) on Consent Agenda]
Councilman Nordquist removed this item from the Consent Agenda because he wanted to vote against -it.
Councilman Herb questioned one of the provisions which he thought did not indicate the intent., but
MOTION:
others on the Council felt it did. COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARNS TO
APPROVE I,TEM,(C) ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ADOPTING ORDINANCE 2031. MOTION CARRIED, WI-TH COUNCILMAN
NORDQUIST VOTING NO.
PROPOSED.ORDINANCE REQUIRING MINIMUM ATTENDANCE FOR MEMBERS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS [Item (E) on
Consent Agenda
Community. Development Director John.LaTourelle said his recollection of the discussion on attendance
was that special meetings should not be included when computing the 70% required attendance, but the
attorneys had written the ordinance to include them. He noted that a reference to special meetings
MOTION:
was included in sections 1.05.010 and 1.05.020 (1) and (2), and he recommended passage of the ordinance
with those references stricken. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, TO AMEND THE
PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO ELIMINATE THE WORDING "AND SPECIAL MEETINGS" AND "OR SPECIAL MEETINGS" AS IT
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APPEARS IN SECTION 1.05.010 AND SECTION 1..05.020 (1) AND (2), AND ANY OTHER REFERENCE TO SPECIAL
MOTION: MEETINGS IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. MOTION CARRIED. COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN THEN MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN CARNS, TO APPROVE ITEM (E) ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ADOPTING ORDINANCE 2033, AS AMENDED.
MOTION CARRIED.
COUNCIL
Councilman Nordquist inquired whether there is an agenda for the budget work sessions. M.A.A.
Charles Dibble responded that there is, and he briefly reviewed that of November 9. Councilman
Nordquist had attended a breakfast at the Senior Center this morning and commented on the excellent
program presented on the functions and accomplishments of the Senior Center.
Councilman Carns reported that there was $26.60 left from the funds the Council and Mayor contributed
for the party for Boards and Commissions. He suggested it be donated to Medic 1. There was some
discussion, and Councilman Carns will handle the final disbursement of funds.
Councilwoman Allen reported that she had been questioned by citizens regarding the restrooms'at the
new fishing pier because they block some view. Community Development Director John LaTourelle said
that is the only place on the landward side where they could be located.
Councilwoman Allen reported that a friend had tried to make a police report in person during the day
but had been told to call 911. M.A.A. Dibble responded that that is contrary to normal procedure.
Councilman -Herb said he has.a conflict on November 16 so he'will be unable to attend the budget work
meeting scheduled for that evening.
MAYOR
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Mayor Harrison presented a plaque to George Kopan, Superintendent of.the Treatment Plant, which had
been awarded to the City of Edmonds Wastewater Treatment Plant at the 45th annual meeting of the
Pacific Northwest Pollution Control Association, for no accidents at the Treatment Plant for 19
years.
Mayor Harrison introduced Richard Pearson, newly hired in the Community Development Department as an
Assistant City Planner/Project Manager.
AUDIENCE
An unidentified lady in the audience read a letter from residents who live near City property at 7th
and Elm in which they requested that the original plan for the site, with trees to remain, be approved
by the Council. They had understood this matter would be on this evening's agenda. Public Works
Director Leif Larson said there had been a plan for eliminating blackberries there and doing some
landscaping, and it had gone through the Staff to the Mayor.. Community Development Director John
LaTourelle added that there had been a plan drafted about two years ago by then Parks and Recreation
Director Rod Garretson which called for revamping the area. Mr. LaTourelle said it could not be
accomplished because of the soil conditions, and the disposition of the property had been left in
limbo. Then, last spring and early summer some complaints had been received from citizens immediately
south of Elm St. regarding overgrowth of berry bushes on the south border of the property and nothing
else on the property was discussed, and cleaning out of the berry bushes was all that was done. The
lady in the audience said she had a letter from City Engineer'Fred Herzberg saying this matter would
be on the agenda this evening. Mr. Herzberg responded that it had been scheduled on the agenda, but
it was removed. Councilman Clement observed that the Staff had a proposal but the Mayor decided it
was not to come to the Council, making a policy decision that they would do nothing: Joe Delisa,
one of the neighbors, described how his property had been affected with runoff and silt when the
natural vegetation had been removed from the City property. COUNCILMAN CARNS MOVED, SECONDED BY •
MOTION: COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST., THAT A REVIEW OF THE PROPERTY AT 7TH AND ELM BE SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 211,
1978. Councilman Nordquist asked that the Council be furnished with background information from the
Staff. THE MOTION CARRIED.
Ray Martin of 18704 94th Ave. W. said he had a problem which -had been going on for about 10 months
in trying to get some information from the Community Development Department. Community Development
Director John LaTourelle responded that Mr. Martin had asked the height of a house and had been told
* it is 35'.* Mr. Martin felt the height had been changed as some trusses had been changed and
appeared to be higher. He said Mr. Whitcutt in the Building Department had said the height would be
16'5" from a sewer lid used as a reference point. Mr. LaTourelle said the height would be 16'5"
plus or minus 2", that nothing had changed, but that they were unable to communicate verbally
with Mr. Martin. He said they had spent 10 months explaining how they got the reference point and
how building heights are established and they had a building inspector out in the storm last Friday
on this. He said the trusses had.blown down.and that was why they were replaced. Mr. LaTourelle
said they had done everything they could do. Mr. Martin then said he thought one of the members was
raised about l' and he said he just wanted to know the height. He was told it is 16'5" from the
reference point.
HEARING ON P.C. RESOLUTION 608 RECOMMENDING DENIAL TO CHANGE NUMBER OF MEMBERS ON BOARD OF
ADJUSTMENT AND CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE File ZO-11-78
The Planning Commission had recommended that the number of members on the Board of Adjustment not be
changed, but the Community Development Department recommended the number be reduced from nine to
seven members. The Council had received the minutes of the Planning Commission hearing on the
matter. This. hearing was opened to'the public,' no'one'wished to.speak, and the hearing was closed.
MOTION: COUNCILMAN,CARNS. MOVED,.SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD; TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 2039, REDUCING THE NUMBER
OF MEMBERS.ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FROM NINE TO SEVEN. Councilman..Nordquist noted that when the
Chairman -of the Board of Adjustment had.appeared before„the Council at the recent work meeting his
recommendation had been to reduce the number of members. THE MOTION CARRIED.
*See amendment 11-21-78 •
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MOTION:
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Amendment
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PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGING NAME OF AMENITIES DESIGN BOARD AND ESTABLISHING NUMBER
OF MEMBERS AND LENGTH OF TERM
In hearing this matter previously the Council had directed the City Attorney to draft the ordinance
renaming the Amenities Design Board,to the Architectural Review Board. The City Attoriiey's Office
had drafted that ordinance but also offered an ordinance to change the name to the Architectural
Design Board.::which would keep the initials of the Board the same. ,The City Attorney's Office felt
that would_be more efficient and lessconfusing, especially as the initials ADB appear many times in
the newly published Zoning Code.. COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED BY'COUNCILMAN CLEMENT, TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE 2040 CHANGING THE NAME OF THE AMENITIES DESIGN DOARD.TO THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN BOARD AND
ESTABLISHING.:THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS AND THE LENGTH OF TERM. MOTION CARRIED.
REVIEW OF PRD..ORDINANCE AND CONTINUED HEARING ON EDMONDS GOAL -.CONTROL OF ENVIRONMENTALLY
SENSITIVE AREAS
A detailed analysis of the PRD.Ordinance and its provisions was prepared by the Community Development
Department..and..furnished to the Council. Assistant City Planners Noelle Charleson and Mary Lou
Block..reviewed parts of that analysis. Slides of various types of PRDs were shown and it was rioted
that in the PRD you,get houses that are designed for the site, therefore accommodating different
types of topography. The question had been raised as to whether the environmentally sensitive areas
should be included when calculating density, or if they should be subtracted from the total area as
roads have .been. Ms. Charleson said.if no future development.i.s going to be allowed in those areas,
then they believed those areas should not be calculated in either the PRO or the standard type of
subdivision.. However, they felt,a.density bonus should be given to -encourage PRDs since the PRD
requires more hearings and more detailed submittals, an&.if.the incentive of the PRD is eliminated
the result will be standard subdivisions with more impervious surfaces in roads and no control over
the design of the individual units. She noted that even though environmentaly sensitive areas are
not now subtracted in calculating PRDs, in recently approved PRDs 75% or more of the environmentally
sensitive areas have been preserved. She also noted that there are steeply sloped areas in the City
zoned RS-6 and RS-8; the Community Development Department felt they should be rezoned to RS-12 and
RS-20. Mr.... LaTourelle said they are suggesting that in the environmentally sensitive areas the.
development should be in larger lot sizes. Councilman Clement commented that in some cases he felt
the PRD encouraged development.of land that in the past would not have been developed, and felt that
in PRDs you tended to get higher density than in regular subdivisions. Mr. LaTourelle responded
that all land in some way is developable, and Ms. Charleson agreed that PRDs may slightly increase
density, but she said the tradeoffs in saving open space and designing to save natural features were
well worth it.
Mary Lou Block.noted that the PRD Ordinance presently allows detached single family units, duplexes,
or townhouses in an RS zone . And in some instances a number of units can be joined and, in fact,
reduce the lot coverage. She said they recommend retaining the flexibility provided by allowing
clustering of units and not limiting the number of units that can be joined. She noted that there
are some sites where the topography is such that six or more joined units would cause less disruption
than clusters of three or less units. Further, that several -small clusters of units separated by a
small amount of space takes more area..than a larger group of units. Mrs. Block said that it seems
to them if someone is willing to go through the PRD process in order to save the natural features it
would not be harmful to anyone to permit him to have the.PRD.regardless of the number of joined
units.. The public portion of the hearing was then opened. Robert Leghorn of Leghorn Enterprises
said he has a beautiful piece of property in Shell Park which can be developed as three lots and he
will have to remove some beautiful cedar trees to do so. He said he would like to go PRD to save a
nice screen of trees but he is short the green belt required. He would like to build three town-
housesaeei.n a then:chal;ettestyleg'. and he expressed the hope that an allowance could be made for certain
properties that would enable him to develop this site, building the houses around the trees. He
said he wanted to keep the site blended in with Yost Park. Councilman Gould thanked him for his
expression, noting that it reinforced the position which the.Staff.had taken. The public portion of
the hearing was then closed. COUNCILMAN CLEMENT THEN MOVED THAT:THE PRD ORDINANCE BE REFERRED TO
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW OF THE FOLLOWING ISSUES: WHETHER OR NOT THE CURRENT PRD ORDINANCE
IS CONSISTENT WITH.THE POLICY PLAN OBJECTIVES OF CONTROLLING ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS AND
KEEPING,SCALE SMALL AND ATTEMPTING TO DIVERSIFY OR REDUCE DENSITY; AND IN DOING THAT HE ALSO ASKED
THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT THE PRD CONCEPT OUGHT TO BE EXTENDED TO SMALLER
PIECES OF. PROPERTY THAN IT CURRENTLY IS AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE A STANDARD ALLOWANCE IN
BOTH PRD:AND SUBDIVISION CALCULATIONS FOR UTILITIES IN THE SENSE THAT.IN A PRD THE ROAD HAS BEEN 20'
WIDE.AND.THAT HAS BEEN SUBTRACTED..TO GET BUILDABLE LOTS AND IN.SUBDIVISIONS IT HAS BEEN 25' WIDE AND
THAT HAS BEEN SUBTRACTED TO GET BUILDABLE LOTS. (He noted that this may create more roof space and
less street space.) FURTHER, THE MOTION DOES'NOT ASK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LOOK AT THE
QUESTION OF JOINED UNITS AND PRIVATE ROADS. COUNCILMAN CARNS SECONDED THE MOTION FOR DISCUSSION.
COUNCILMAN.CARNS THEN MOVED TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.BE ASKED TO
LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF JOINED UNITS ALLOWED IN A PRD. COUNCILMAN HERB SECONDED THE MOTION TO AMEND.
Councilman Clement pointed out that there is already an existing policy and unless the Council was
unhappy with it he felt that should not be considered. Councilman Herb stated that he thought the
analysis prepared by the Community Development Department regarding the PRD Ordinance was a good
balance of.common sense. He felt the PRD Ordinance as it is now is. a good one. THE MOTION TO AMEND
WAS THEN DEFEATED. THE MAIN MOTION CARRIED.
HEARING ON EDMONDS GOAL - MAIN ST. UNDERGROUNDING
MOTION: COUNCILMAN.HERB MOVED, SECONDED BY.000NCILWOMAN ALLEN, THAT.ACTION ON THIS ITEM BE DEFERRED UNTIL
•(Failed) 1983. Councilman Herb noted that the Council had committed the funds available to the undergrounding
of SR 524 when it is improved.and.there would be no other funds available until 1983. Mayor Harrison
suggested that the wires on Main St -could be moved to the alleys and would not have to be placed
underground. After some discussion., A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN, WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS HERB AND ALLEN
VOTING YES,. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS CLEMENT, NORDQUIST, AND CARNS VOTING NO. (Councilman -Gould -had
MOTION: left.) THE MOTION FAILED. COUNCILMAN.CARNS THEN MOVED, SECONDED.BY COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN, THAT THE
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COUNCIL REAFFIRM ITS NUMBER ONE UNDERGROUNDING GOAL TO BE UNDERGROUNDING SR 524. Mayor Harrison
commented that there may not be enough money in the next three years to underground SR 524. THE
MOTION CARRIED. —The question of using the alleys was pursued further. Public Works Director Leif
Larson said the alley between 3rd Ave. and.the ferry dock would not lend itself to that as.it runs
in the wrong direction. He suggested this might be made a priority in a bond issue.
REPORT FROM COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST RE USE OF.POWER BOATS ON LAKE BALLINGER
Councilman Nordquist reported that a suggestion had been made at the meeting with Mountlake Terrace
that this item should be taken up between the Parks and Recreation Directors of the Cities of
Edmonds and Mountlake Terrace and of Snohomish County. He said there is involvement with Mountlake
MOT -ION: Terrace access to the.lake. COUNCILMAN HERB MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUIST, THAT THE
MATTER OF THE USE OF POWER BOATS ON LAKE BALLINGER BE REFERRED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
OF EDMONDS TO CONFER WITH THE MOUNTLAKE TERRACE AND SNOHOMISH COUNTY RECREATION DIRECTORS., MOTION
CARRIED.
There was no further business to come before the Council, and the meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
IRENE VARNEY MORAN, Ci Clerk HARVE H. HARRISON, Mayor
eptember 4, 1979
The gular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was calle to order at 7:35 p.m. by Mayor Harve
Harris in the Council Chambers of the Edmonds Civic Center. All present joined in the flags /ute.
PRESENT \ STAFF PRESENT
Harve Harriso Mayor Charles Dibble, M.A.A.
Mike Herb John LaTourelle, Community Development Director
Bill Kasper Fred Herzberg, Public Works Director
Katherine Allen Irene Varney Moran, City Clerk
John Nordquist Art Housler, Finance Director
Ray Gould Jim Adams, City Engineer
Tom Carns Gary McComas, Fire Marshal
Larry Naughten Jim Murphy, City Attorney
Jackie Parrett, Deputy City Clerk
CONSENT AGENDA
Item (B) was removed from the Cons t Agenda. COUNCILMAN CARNS M ED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
NAUGHTEN, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF E CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION ARRIED. The approved portion of
the Consent Agenda included the follow g:
(A) Roll call.
(C) Authorization to exchange Quit Claik Deeds, Dorth Meadowdale Beach Rd.
(D) Acceptance of construction of Force Mai nd Pump Station 5, and establish
30-day lien period.
(E) Acceptance of Quit Claim Deed for 1 dedica 'on on 70th Ave. W., in
conjunction with short subdivisio (S-69-78 -- ampbell)
(F) Adoption of Ordinance 2089 to llow parking from in St. to Bell St. on
Sunset Ave. and restricting For
on Ocean Ave. a Water St.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF.AUGUST 28
[Item (B) on Consent Agen`41
On page 2, in the last line of he second paragraph, in discussion o the Council Contingency Fund,
it was stated that the balan was $5,085 and that should have been st ed as a deficit. Also,
Councilwoman.Allen noted t t in the fourth paragraph on page 2, instruc 'ons were given to the City
Attorney to draft a resol tion, and it had been determined that a resoluti was not necessary and
the $200 simply would b transferred from the Miscellaneous Fund. COUNCILW N ALLEN MOVED, SECONDED
BY COUNCILMAN NORDQUI TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 28, 1979 WITH THE S TED CORRECTIONS.
MOTION CARRIED.
MAYOR
Mayor Harris noted that Community Development Director John LaTourelle had recommen\24,
the review f Titles 18 and 19 of the Community Development Code in order to avoid a h
the City' preparation for the October 9 Boundary Review Board hearing on the Olympic -
tion. r. LaTourelle suggested Planning Commission review of Titles 18 and 19 on Octoh
Coun review on October 30. COUNCILMAN HERB MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GOULD, TOREC MENDATION TO PLACE THE COUNCIL REVIEW OF TITLES 18 AND 19 ON THE OCTOBER 30, 1979.
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