19841002 City Council MinutesOctober 2, 1984
The regular meeting of the Edmonds City Council was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Larry
Naughten in the Plaza Meeting Room of the Edmonds Library. All present joined in the flag salute.
PRESENT
Larry Naughten, Mayor
Jo -Anne Jaech
Steve Dwyer
Laura Hall
Bill Kasper
Lloyd Ostrom
Jack Wilson
Suzanne Adams, Student Rep.
ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
John Nordquist Steve Simpson, Parks & Rec. Director
Jim Roberts, Engineering Inspector
Pat LeMay, Personnel Director
Dan Prinz, Police Chief
Mary Lou Block, Planning Director
Art Housler, Admin. Svcs. Director
Jim Jessel, Property Manager
Jackie Parrett, City Clerk
Jack Weinz, Fire Chief
Scott Snyder, City Attorney
Shirlie Witzel, Recorder
Mayor Naughten said Councilmember Nordquist would not be present since he was out of town on
Community Transit business.
CONSENT AGENDA
Items (B), (H) and (I) were removed.from the consent agenda. COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED
BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION CARRIED. The approved
items on the consent agenda included the following:
(A) Roll call.
(C) Authorization to replace 1979 Kawasaki police motorcycle.
(D) Authorization to solicit bids for construction of 1984 Walkway Program.
(E) Final acceptance of work by Seattle Services Company and setting a 30-day retainage
period.
(F) Passage of Resolution 604 commending Tony Agtarap.
(G) Authorize Mayor to sign 1984/85 Police Support and Public Works Labor Agreements.
(J) Acceptance of quit claim deed from Dorothy J. Henkel.
(K) Acknowledgement of receipt of claim for damages from Mary.Lou Carlo ($327.71).
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER.25, 1984 [Item (B) on. Consent Agenda]
Councilmember Hall asked that page 4, paragraph 3 be corrected to indicate that the motion was made
by Councilmember Hall and seconded by Councilmember Kasper. Councilmember Kasper then asked that
the minutes be corrected.to show that Item (B), Authorize Mayor to sign Woodway Fire Service Con-
tract, was removed from the Consent Agenda. He had removed the .item because he opposed an outside
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City contract unless a surcharge were added. The item was then approved on Councilmember Jaech's
motion seconded.by Councilmember Hall. COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH,
TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED. MOTION CARRIED.
SOILS TESTING FOR CHASE LAKE PROPERTY [Item (H) on
Consent Agenda]
The item was removed to set a date for the hearing;
therefore,
COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED
BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, TO APPROVE SOILS TESTING FOR
CHASE LAKE
PROPERTY AND SET A DATE OF OCTOBER
16, 1984 FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED ACQUISITION OF THIS
PROPERTY. MOTION CARRIED. .
POSTPONE HEARING OF PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR
UNION OIL
WATER LOOP L.I.D. TO MARCH 5, 1985
Councilmember Wilson asked why the hearing was being postponed. Mayor Naughten responded that
negotiations were still in progress with Union Oil and the Port and construction cannot now be
started until the spring. He added that a report would be given later this month on the progress of
the negotiations. COUNCILMEMBER.WILSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER JAECH, TO DIRECT THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO PREPARE THE NECESSARY RESOLUTION POSTPONING THE L.I.D. HEARING DATE TO MARCH 5, 1985.
MOTION CARRIED.
HEARING.TO DISCUSS YOUTH ACTIVITIES, PROGRAMS, AND FUTURE NEEDS
Planning Director Steve Simpson noted the hearing had been scheduled as a result of comments made
during the last townhall meeting.. He remarked on the label, that has been attached to Edmonds, that
of not caring about young families. Mr. Simpson discussed the 29% loss in population of children
under 14 years during 1970-1980. He said his office had received more phone calls regarding this
issue than any other in the past year. His recommendations include development of a policy state-
ment showing support for children and families within Edmonds and development of a. Task Force to
provide further community imput on:this subject.
Mayor Naughten opened the hearing,limiting each speaker to three minutes.
Maureen Pierre, 21423 92nd Ave. W., described the needs that children have for a place to "hang-
out" and asked if the City Council had considered creation of a Junior City Council to represent the
under-21 age group. She suggested that dances and non -sport events be sponsored by the City and a
playground program be expanded to include teens. She described the difficulty experienced.by young
families in finding homes in Edmonds, causing them to locate in other areas. Ms. Pierre also
expressed concern about school closures. She urged the Council to examine this issue carefully.
Doug Clark, 23700 194th Ave. W., represented Evangel Community Church. He described the services
and facilities available for young families including recreation and study areas that are lightly
supervised, ball fields, an open gym and evening family activities with babysitting provided. He
said all of the activities are free and open to anyone.
John Harter, 700 Main St., Executive Director of the Youth Club of Edmonds -Lynnwood, agreed with
comments made earlier concerning the summer program. He commended the Parks and Recreation Depart-
ment for a job well done and suggested the program should be expanded into other areas of Edmonds.
He also agreed.with the ideas presented for the older children. He suggested the various groups
meet together every 3-4 months to pool their ideas and work for solutions to problems. He expressed
appreciation for the help provided by the City with the Youth Club fields.
Trudy Dana, 18509 85th Ave. W., described a problem affecting 1/3 of all the elementary age children
in Edmonds, those who are home alone. Another alarming aspect of this problem, she said, is that
1/3 of these children will face an emergency situation, such as a fire, injury, etc., and most
children have not been trained to handle everyday situations much less emergencies. Ms. Dana
described the problems encountered by parents seeking care for children who are left alone. She
then described the courses she teaches on safety and -self-reliance for children which are available
t through the Edmonds Parks and Recreation.Department. She asked that the City consider sponsoring
these classes and the personal safety talks that she offers.
Fred Gucker, 22407 100th Ave: W., felt the parks in. Edmonds are not oriented toward the youth of the
area but toward adults. He said the one park oriented for youth is Pine St. Park and the park is
not safe for use. He also pointed out the lack of notification to the public of the facilities and
programs that are available in Edmonds.- He said other cities in the area publish the names,
addresses and phone numbers of youth organizations active in their community. He noted that the
construction of high-rise condos has increased, streets have been widened and speed limits in-
creased, all factors contrary to the interest of young families. He suggested that residential
areas be protected with proper zoning to provide -a family environment.
Dave Earling, 8629 187th P1. S.W.,-President of the Edmonds Chamber of Commerce, said the Chamber of
Commerce is interested in the quality of life in Edmonds which includes a positive emphasis on the
youth of the community. He urged the Council to take positive action to focus on the children and
he supported the idea of.a Community Task Force to determine goals and solutions to the problems
expressed and to make positive statements in dealing with the youth of the community.
Bill Tyler, 8024 215th S.W., a member of the Committee studying uses of the Civic Center Playfield,
said the City pays lip service to .the problem but no solutions are reached and it is time to define
the problems and solve them. He said several hundred children play on organized teams outside the
City. Mr. Tyler noted there are no 4-H programs in the Edmonds area. He described the Boys' Club
as a shambles, in spite of the $18,000 spent on renovation, because the club does not provide a
place for everyone and everyone needs�a place to go. He urged the Council to provide a program for
the teen children of the community.
Phil Escandon, 940 Daley St.; said.the City was great -when
the City has turned its back on children in past years. He
the community because they have fresh and exciting ideas.
they moved here 14 years ago but feels
urged the City to listen to the youth of
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Dianne Bresnau, 561 Pine St., described their recent search for a home and decision to locate in
Edmonds because of the beauty of the area. However, she has found that it is necessary to drive to
Lynnwood and Mountlake Terrace to involve her children in activities. She was astonished at the
recent failure of the school bond issue and described how her child was forced to remain in her seat
at school during the first rainy day of the school year because there were no covered play facili=
ties. She has been impressed with the outreach of the recreation program and facility in Mountlake
Terrace and would like to see something similar in Edmonds. Ms. Bresnau was surprised with the
condition of the ball fields in Edmonds and lack of such things' as bike paths and feels this lack
may be an indication of the City's attitude.
Mark Gluth, 17628 Talbot Rd., representing South County YMCA, said the area surrounding the YMCA has
a large youth population because of construction during the last few years of 700-800 apartment
units. He described a playfield located behind and belonging to the -YMCA that is being used by.
children in the area with resultant problems. The nearest City park, he said, is located one or two
miles away. He suggested the field might be developed in cooperation with the City to provide a
safe and supervised play area.
Mayor Naughten closed the public hearing, thanking everyone for their comments.
Councilmember Hall said the problem appears .Large but can -be resolved if all will combine their
efforts in effecting a solution. She said pressure was being applied by the schools because they
are unable to offer after -school activities and have also scheduled school times that affect the
family adversely. She suggested that an enterprising person could provide a service in matching
facilties with needs in the community.
Councilmember Dwyer saw two problems, the lack of appropriate facilities and activities for the
youth of the community and the failure of young families to locate in Edmonds. He asked for further
information on the proposal to establish a resource and referral program matching.needed day care
and day care providers. The program could be of use in both problem areas. He also would like to
see further planning for an advisory committee. He commented that there are things the City cannot
provide, but there are some things the City can do, which were identified in the report submitted by
Mr. Simpson.
Councilmember Jaech thanked the speakers for their comments and for acquainting her with facilities
that are available within the City. She suggested that representatives meet to advise the City of
the facilities that are available. She also expressed interest in the resource and referral pro-
gram.
HEARING ON PROPOSALS FOR MEADOWDALE PARK, CIVIC CENTER PLAYFIELD, WOODWAY HIGH SCHOOL FIELD, AND
OLYMPIC SCHOOL
Mr. Simpson said the need for facilities in Edmonds was expressed during the last hearing. He
recounted the need for additional fields in the area because of the increased and increasing popu-
larity of sports among adult as well as youth groups. He reviewed the proposed Meadowdale Playfield
complex that would be shared with Lynnwood and.Snohomish County. Both Lynnwood and Snohomish County
have committed support when Edmonds indicates a like commitment, he added. Mr. Simpson explained
the revised plan for the Civic Center Playfield. He outlined the proposed financing for both the
Meadowdale Pl.ayfield and the Civic Center Playfield which would come from a 1/4% real estate sales
tax, sale of surplus property and HUD and IAC grants. He noted that funding for improvements at
Woodway High and Olympic Elementary Schools would require a bond issue. He said both Mayor Naughten
and the staff have endorsed the Meadowdale and Civic Center Playfield projects.
In response.to.questions from the Council, Mr. Simpson said a bond issue could be placed before the
community in 1985 or 1986 for the Woodway and/or Olympic developments. His recommendation was
directed to the Meadowdale complex and the Civic Center Playfield because of the need for immediate
action on Meadowdale, but was not meant to preclude consideration of any of the other sites. He
said the listed development costs for Olympic School do not include the cost of acquisition. In
response to Councilmember Kasper, Mr. Simpson said the Meadowdale property had been removed from the
surplus property list at Edmonds' request. The School District will be contributing the use of the
property as their share of the project under a cooperative use and development agreement for a term
of 40 years.
Councilmember Kasper indicated support of the Meadowdale project .if an agreement could be reached
that would not be as limiting as the agreement the.City now has on the Civic Center Playfield.
Councilmember Hall supports the project but expressed several concerns regarding the lease and the
participation of the school district. She asked the City Attorney to ensure the property would not
be lost in the event there is a future need for the property to be used for school purposes. City
Attorney Scott Snyder explained that an option of some type, with right of first refusal, could be
included in the terms of the lease. Mr. Simpson noted there would be a property use and development
agreement, rather than a lease, that would be similar to the agreement that exists between Lynnwood
and the School District for the Lynnwood High School site.
Bill Evans, Lynnwood Parks & Recreation Director, related Lynnwood's support for the project and
their experience in developing a joint use development maintenance agreement with the School
District. He said the agreement gives them scheduling rights after 6:00 p.m. weekdays during the
school year, all weekends and daily during the summer. The agreement also spells out maintenance
responsibilities. The agreement for the Meadowdale project would be patterned after the Lynnwood
High agreement with the School District providing the land; Edmonds and Lynnwood, and possibly
Snohomish County, would develop the site while the maintenance and scheduling would be shared
between the cities.
Mayor Naughten opened the public hearing, limiting each speaker to three minutes.
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Guy Shoemaker, 727 6th Ave. S., represented Sailor's Restaurant Men's Slow Pitch Softball team. He
and his team believe Edmonds.facilities are far below the level of surrounding facilities. As a
locally sponsored team they feel the proposed Meadowdale facilities will encourage community in- .
volvement in sport activities. He asked that the Council support the proposal because Edmonds needs
the facility.
Corky Frady, 8455 198th P1. S.W., saw a close relationship between this and the previous agenda
item. During the past year, 3500 youths participated in organized activities, not including parti-
cipation in school or Parks and Recreation. activities.. Utilization of Meadowdale, Woodway and the
Civic Center Playfield would use tax dollars, and Mr. Frady objected to the use of tax dollars for
facilities that are not owned by the City. He supported the purchase of Olympic school and its
development for the youth of the community for sports and other programs.
John Harter, previously identified, said facilities like Meadowdale are needed to keep and attract
young families. Since this is the last large piece of property available for recreational uses, he
said Edmonds should not hesitate to commit to the.development. The adults and children of the .
community are forced to use fields outside Edmonds because there is not enough room on the fields in
Edmonds. He commented on the constantly :increasing number of men, women and children that are
playing softball. There is also,a need for good soccer fields. He said Edmonds needs all of the
sites that are listed for consideration.
Bruce Agnew, 16000 75th Pl. W., County Councilmember,.read a letter from Willis D. Tucker, Snohomish
County Executive. Mr. Tucker expressed interest in pursuing negotiations for the development plan
for Meadowdale Park but was awaiting official notice from.Edmonds and Lynnwood City Councils of
their commitment before presenting the project to, the County Council. Mr. Agnew then reviewed the
funding available from the County and.the possi.b,ility.of funding through the Cooperative Extension
upon development of a 4-H youth activitycenter at the Meadowdale site. He said another source of
• funding might be the 1/2� sales tax which will not be utilized by the County until the jail is
completed -in 1986..He.ind.icated there would also be a possibility that Community. Development Block
Grant funds would be available. He urged an affirmative vote.on a joint agreement for use and
development of the Meadowdale property.
Dave Earling, previously identified, indicated that Chamber members would support. the Meadowdale
project as they supported the Civic Center and Woodway projects. As a member..of the Committee to
study the Civic Center Playfield, he would support the Meadowdale project;.however, he urged the
Council.to also support the Plan A as presented for the Civic Center Playfield which addresses some
of the problems that have been identified.by the Committee. He added that Olympic School appears to
be a valuable asset and believes the community would support such a project.
Peter Lechner, 15715 Admiralty.Wy., Lynnwood, President of the Evergreen Soccer Club, said their
club draws .players from both.Edmonds and Lynnwood aged 5 through 18. He said.lack of decent facili-
ties is their biggest problem for both training and games, there are not enough fields to support
the number of people: interested in playing.. As an.association and club, they support all four
proposed projects and maintenance of.existing fields to provide a premium soccer program. -
Don Ginsberg, 19248 93rd Pl. W., said a conflict was developing between adult and youth activities.
He. believes there.shoul,d be a priority for the youth as respresented by the Olympic School property.
This would be an excellent investment, he said, and could be a legacy for the youth of the communi-
.ty. Adult fields are also needed, but let the people of the City make.the decision, he added.
Dave Dorsey, 2021 Hollowdale P1., Everett, Executive Director of the Greater Everett Softball
Assoc., said lack of facilities in Everett results -in 15 teams a year being turned away.. Softball
facilities should be an embarrassment to everyone in Snohomish County, he noted. Mr. Dorsey men-
tioned, as a source of revenue, the tourism dollars that could be attracted to the area if there
were good softball facilities available.in Snohomish County.
. Roger Hertrich, 1020 Puget Dr., endorsed the Meadowdale project. He asked if recreational use of
Olympic School would preclude its use in the future.as.a school. He said there -were other grade
schools on the surplus list and asked that those schools also be considered. Another aspect to be
considered in any decision, he said, would be the traffic that will be generated. Mr. Hertrich
urged support of a full time swimming pool located at the Civic Center Playfield.
Sherry Wetmore, 2.1919 98th Ave. W., had enjoyed the parks available in Edmonds when her children
were small, then as they grew older and schools began to close there was no longer a.,place for the
children to play. When she saw the Olympic School proposal, she was excited to see emphasis being
placed on the children again. Although adult fieldsare also important, she believes facilities for
the children must have first priority. She questioned the time that will be available at Meadowdale
and feels that may be a great deal of money for.just 40 year usage.
Mayor Naughten read a letter from Don and.Jan Phillips, 7100 156th St. S.W., in support of the
Meadowdale.Park proposal,as a means of alleviating the limited.amount of fields that are now
available.
Dick Beardsford, 9217 192nd P1., feels the community must attract younger families and provide
opportunities for the youth of the City to participate in activities. Therefore, he would support
the Olympic School facility as a first priority for action since the Council will have to set some
type of priority in dealing with these proposals.
Mayor Naughten attempted to clarify the financing of the various proposals being considered. He
said the Meadowdale and Civic Center.sites could be financed from the 1/4% real estate tax that is
not now being imposed and from the sale of surplus property. The Woodway and Olympic School sites
would have to be bond issues, he said, going to the voters for decision.
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In response to a question from the audience, Mr. Simpson said moving adult fields to the Meadowdale
site would free the Civic Center fields .for use by the youth of the community.' There will be both
adult and youth fields at Meadowdale, but the specific number of each will be based upon input from
future public hearings, he said. In addition, Mr. Simpson said there must be a financial commitment
to start the planning which will determine what will be designed.
Tom Davis, 921.2 192nd Pl. S.W., was a member of the Committee studying parks in Edmonds. He said
the Committee had found that the needs of the youth of the.communi.ty must be addressed. While the
Meadowdale complex would be a great facility, the greatest benefit would be shifting the adult
fields out of the Civic Center Playfield. He thanked the Mayor and the Council for their support of
the Committee.
Mayor Naughten closed the public hearing.
Councilmember Ostrom remarked on the progress that has been made on this issue and thanked the
people who had helped make that progress possible. He said it is not a question of adult or youth
activities, both are needed, and he favors the proposed agreement because Meadowdale will provide
for both. Noting this was a good first step, he realized not all the needs that had been described
during the hearing would be resolved with this step. He suggested that the development of the
Woodway and Olympic sites be pursued as bond issues.
Councilmember Dwyer believes the proposal before the Council addresses the two problems that were
evidenced in testimony heard earlier by creating fields for use by the youth of the community and
creating activities for adults. The recommended actions on Meadowdale and the Civic Center Play -
field do not require funding from the general fund or a.bond issue. The Olympic School proposal
must be looked at and perhaps also the Woodway proposal, but the things that can be controlled right
now are those items that do not require a bond issue. COUNCILMEMBER DWYER MOVED, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMEMBER WILSON, (1) TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO NEGOTIATE A COOPERATIVE DEVELOPMENT AND USE •
AGREEMENT WITH THE EDMONDS SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE CITY OF LYNNWOOD, AND SNOHOMISH COUNTY FOR THE
MEADOWDALE PROJECT, (2) THE CITY ATTORNEY BE INSTRUCTED TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE TO IMPLEMENT THE
1/4% REAL ESTATE SALES TAX, (3) THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DIRECTOR PLACE THE REVENUE FROM THE NEW
TAX INTO A FUND FOR THE MEADOWDALE ATHLETIC FIELD CONSTRUCTION FOR FIVE YEARS WITH FUNDS COLLECTED
IN EXCESS OF $120,000 PER YEAR TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CIVIC CENTER FIELD PROJECT.
In response to questions from Councilmember Jaech, Administrative Services Director Art Housler said
revenue expected from the 1/4% real estate tax is estimated to be $135,000 a year. Mr. Simpson said
$15,000 from the new tax would go toward the Civic Center Playfield. Mayor Naughten explained that
surplus property has been identified by the City, some would be sold and the money would be used for
the Civic Center Field as part of the needed financing.
Councilmember Kasper would support the 1/4% real estate tax for capital improvements but not for use
on the Civic Center Field. He reasoned that the field now exists as a playfield, needing mainte-
nance and drainage, but there is no need to change its use when there is the option of developing
the Woodway site or the Olympic School site. He said the Civic Center field should not be touched
until the City knows what will be done with those two sites. The recreation area of Civic Center
Playfield would be reduced under the current proposal and there would be loss of a lighted field, he
said. Additionally, there is no way to know the exact cost of the Meadowdale project and he would
have the entire revenue realized from the real estate tax reserved.for that project. in the event it
should be needed. Mr. Kasper said it is essential that the City acquire use of the Olympic School
property and therefore he would not support the.motion if the Civic Center Playfield is included.
COUNCILMEMBER WILSON WITHDREW HIS.SECOND TO THE MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER JAECH SECONDED THE MOTION.
COUNCILMEMBER KASPER MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER WILSON, TO AMEND THE MOTION TO -REMOVE USE OF
FUNDS FOR THE CIVIC CENTER PLAYFIELD PROJECT, EXCESS FUNDS TO BE HELD IN RESERVE UNTIL ACTUAL COSTS
OF MEADOWDALE PROJECT ARE KNOWN AND ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN ON WOODWAY AND OLYMPIC SCHOOL PROJECTS.
Councilmember Ostrom suggested that the Committee working to solve the problems at the Civic Center •
Playfield may see the proposed P1an.A as a,partial solution of those problems and thus support
Meadowdale. Both projects must be considered together if there is to be a solution and he opposed
the amendment.
Councilmember Jaech agreed with Mr. Ostrom, since the Committee was formed to address the problems
existing -at -the Ci-vic Center Playfield and the needs of both youth and adults that were not being
served within the City. The Meadowdale proposal would free the fields in the downtown area for the
children of the community and therefore the two.proposals are tied together in resolving the problem.
Earlier in the evening, Councilmember Wilson had heard a need expressed for a central facility, long
term planning and goals, and development of an environment that welcomes young families. While
respecting the work done on Plan A, he considers it a band -aid approach to the problem. Olympic
School is more important to the community than two ballfields at Civic Center Park, he said. The
School could be used by varying groups and would provide almost unlimited activities and he agreed
with the amendment to the motion. A ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN WITH COUNCILMEMBERS HALL, KASPER AND
* WILSON VOTING YES; COUNCILMEMBERS JAECH, DWYER AND OSTROM VOTING NO, RESULTING IN A TIE VOTE. MAYOR
NAUGHTEN VOTED NO TO BREAK THE TIE. MOTION TO AMEND FAILED.
ROLL CALL VOTE WAS TAKEN ON MAIN MOTION, COUNCILMEMBERS JAECH, DWYER, HALL, AND OSTROM VOTING YES;
COUNCILMEMBERS KASPER AND WILSON VOTING NO. MOTION CARRIED.
Meeting was recessed for 10 minutes at 9:25, reconvening at 9:35.
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Councilmember Wilson said there is more to youth programs than ballfields, there is a need for
facilities and activities for children who are not involved in athletics. COUNCILMEMBER WILSON
MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KASPER, THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BE NOTIFIED OF EDMONDS' DESIRE TO
BUY.OLYMPIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL; TO AUTHORIZE THE STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE APPRAISAL PROCESS OF THIS
PROPERTY, SAID APPRAISAL TO BE PAID FROM THE COUNCIL.CONTINGENCY FUND; ONCE THE PURCHASE PRICE AND
COST OF THE GYMNASIUM IS KNOWN, A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ISSUE BE PLACED BEFORE THE VOTERS OF
EDMONDS FOR THEIR APPROVAL; A DATE FOR VOTING ON THE.BOND ISSUE BE.ESTABLISHED WITHIN 90 DAYS.
Councilmember Dwyer asked if the bond issue would.be voted upon within 90 days, Mr. Wilson said a
date for the bond issue would be established.within 90 days. MOTION CARRIED WITH COUNCILMEMBER
OSTROM VOTING NO.
Councilmember.Kasper left the meeting at this point.
HEARING ON APPEAL OF HEARING.EXAMINER'S DECISION IN MATTER OF TWO -LOT SUBDIVISION AT 818 7TH AVE.
N. (S-18-84) (APPELLANT: LEONARD M. PEOPLES)
Planning Director Mary Lou Block reviewed the Hearing Examiner's decision and the basis of the
appeal by Mr. Peoples. She said the staff recommended the Hearing Examiner's decision be upheld. In
response to a question from Councilmember Jaech, Ms. Block replied that a house existed on this lot
when the property was orginally subdivided. She surmised that the intent was to subdivide at a
later date since the lot was left large enough to be divided.
Mayor Naughten opened the public hearing.
Marcy Crouser, 909 7th Ave. N., favored the two -lot subdivision. She did not believe there would be
any problem with additional traffic; the traffic problem they have is related to speeding. She
. would appreciate having two more houses which would aid the growth and improvement of the street.
Beulah Thomas, 817 7th Ave. N., was not opposed to.the subdivision, but asked if the subdivision
could'be requested at a later date:if.it were not approved at this time. Ms. Block replied that
there would only be one lot if the subdivision were.not approved and application could be made at a
later date for a future subdivision. Ms. Thomas said there were traffic problems on Sunday.
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Hank Lewis, 21723 97th Ave W., representing Homeland Homes, expressed appreciation for staff support
dur.ing the appeal process and asked the Council to approve the Hearing Examiner's decision.
Jack Vandeman, 616 Sater Ln., said allowing this lot to be subdivided will result in two 70' lots.
He noted that houses that now exist have deeper setbacks and any new house will extend further
toward the street. He felt.this would result in a less attractive entrance to the rest of the
subdivision and compared it with Emerald Hills. He expressed surprise that the developer would wish
to divide this lot.
Jim Allen, 726 Casper St., spoke in favor of the subdivision since it meets the zoning requirements
of the City. Other projects of this company have been developed tastefully and he feels this will
be a welcome addition to the neighborhood.
Leonard Peoples,.802 7th Ave. N., said the issue is not whether the street can handle the -traffic
but the way traffic enters the street. Building two houses on this lot will create a tunnel effect,
he said, with a 20' radius on the south side and an 8' radius on the north side. In response to a
question from Mr. Peoples, Ms. Block said the traffic count was an estimate based on a count done
when the Catholic Church was built. Engineering Inspector Jim Roberts added that the count indi-
cated 300 cars per hourin the area which is 60% of level A, the most desirable level of traffic
concentration. Mr. Peoples said he was joined in:opposition to the subdivision by nine other resi-
dents on 7th Ave. He said houses facing 7th Ave. should have ingress and egress on 7th Ave. Mr.
Peoples said there would be.better ingress and egress to the subdivision from Aloha St. because the
18' street designated as Vista Place, which will handle traffic for 7 houses, is within 10' 10" of
the adjacent house. He asked what would happen if the property owners abutting Vista Place on the
north wished to access their property.from Vista Place. In addition, he said, most of the traffic
from the subdivision will be exiting Vista Place during school hours which will create a safety
problem. He said the code is being met, but wondered who would be answering the code when a child
is hurt or killed.
The meeting was automatically adjourned by Mayor Naughten since .it was,10:00 p.m. COUNCILMEMBER
HALL MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSTROM, TO CONTINUE THE MEETING. MOTION CARRIED. Since there
was no one else wishing to speak, Mayor Naughten closed the public hearing.
Councilmember Dwyer asked Ms. Block several questions regarding the Hearing Examiner's report. She
replied that the RS-8 zone requires a front setback of 25'. A corner lot would have to meet two 25'
setbacks and would also be required to have two side setbacks, one on the east and one on the south
in this case. She said the property meets those requirements. Ms. Block noted that the original
plat required access from Vista Place for any future subdivision of this lot. She said she was not
aware of any relationship between Aloha St. and the proposed two -lot subdivision.
COUNCILMEMBER WILSON MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HALL, THAT THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION ON
THE TWO -LOT SUBDIVISION AT 818 7TH AVE. N. BE UPHELD. MOTION CARRIED. -
HEARING ON PROPOSED USE OF 1985 FEDERAL SHARED REVENUE ($182,489)
Mr. Housler said the purpose of the hearing was to accept input for consideration in allocation of
1985 Federal Shared Revenues. The funds have been used for police salaries or general services in
past years, he added. Mayor Naughten opened the public hearing, since no one wished to speak on the
subject, the hearing was closed.
490.
October 2, 1984 - continued
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COUNCILMEMBER HALL MOVED, -SECONDED BY COUNCI-LMEMBER WILSON, TO APPROPRIATE THIS REVENUE FOR POLICE
SALARIES. MOTION CARRIED.
BUDGET DISCUSSION OF CAPITAL -IMPROVEMENTS -FUND (325) AND FIRE BOAT OPERATING FUND (624)
COUNCILMEMBER JAECH MOVED, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER DWYER, TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM TO
THE OCTOBER 9; 1984 WORK SESSION DUE TO THE LATENESS OF THE HOUR. MOTION CARRIED.
MAYOR
Mayor Naughten announced the members he had appointed to the committee that will study the 115kv
transmission line issue: Dan Carroll, Bill Grosvenor, Steve Norman and Steve Callendar. He asked
the Council to furnish direction for the committee. The Council asked that the committee begin
meeting next week, review the issue of the 115 kv service planned for Edmonds, and formulate an
overall statement for future transmission lines. They asked that Mr. Snyder attend the first meet-
ing and that the committee make use of other resources and advisors as needed.. In addition, the
subject of alternate routes should be examined and alternate types of poles should also be dis-
cussed. In discussing a time limit for the committee, it was suggested an interim report be ready
by November at which time a final report date could be set.
The Mayor announced the preliminary budget had been balanced -and would be forwarded to the -Council
on October 30.
COUNCIL
Councilmember Hall.was approached by people interested in opening,the gate at Woodway High.School.
Mr. Sankey, the principal, has a key and would like to-give.one to the fire and police departments.
She recounted some.of the considerations that were discussed -at -the time of annexation of the area
but noted the gate closure was not addressed in the ordinance. Apparently there has been a problem
in exiting the parking area following activities at the school, she said. Mayor Naughten described
the new striping at the present entrance to the school and proposals for widening the.entrance and
creating some holding lanes. Councilmember Hall asked the City Attorney to research the records and
determine if the gate closure was covered in the ordinance.
Councilmember Hall reported that the Public
discussed, among other items,.the Union Oil
committee meeting be scheduled for 4:00 p.m.
Mayor present.
Safety Committee met on Monday, October 1, and .
Water Loop. Councilmember Wilson suggested another
Monday, October 8, to discuss this subject with the
Councilmember Jaech asked Ms. Block.about a proposed egress.from Harbor Square to State Highway 104.
Ms. Block said•this would be a temporary access from SR104 into the back of the Harbor Square
property to store dirt excavated from the mid -marina project. The conditional use permit allows
fill of some of the property and storage for up to a year. The fence would not be left open but
would be closed between truck loads.
Councilmember Dwyer asked if the October:23 agenda item concern M-secondary sewer treatment should
be delayed to a later date, allowing the new Community Services Director time to familiarize himself
with the subject: Mayor Naughten said the new Director would be accompanying him to the Ronald
Sewer district meeting on October 11 and would be familiar with the issue.
Student Representative Adams agreed there is a lack of entertainment forpteens in Edmonds and
suggested that an "all -city" street dance.be held. Mayor Naughten informed Ms. Adams that she would
automatically be a member of the Youth Activity Board, which is currently being restructured, and
noted that the Board had been working ona similar activity last year.
Councilmember Ostrom suggested the Youth Activity Board should be more widely publicized, since many
people are not aware of its existence,
Since there was no further business.to come before the Council; the meeting was adjourned at 10:37
p.m.
MCQUEUNE G. PA RETT, City Clerk LARRY S. NAUGHTEN, Mayor
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